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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 15:15:29 GMT
Have a SIL. When she was pregnant she announce that she wanted the baby to be born at noon on a Tuesday and then she would name her "Tuesday Noon." (eye roll) To her face, I began to mock her and laugh--What if you get Friday 4:32? etc. etc. Child has a normal name. That child should be forever grateful to you for pointing out such nonsense. My SIL discussed naming a daughter (same one that doesn't say my very phonetic name correctly) Naomi, with a big emphasis on the Nay and I would reply with the emphasis on the Omi, not trying to make a point or anything. Daughter was named something completely different.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:19:20 GMT
Some of the names being mocked in this thread are very similar in style to my kids' names... I love name threads, but hate them, too.
I'm also not sure where any of you get off thinking you get to mock names to a mother's face in a movement to discourage her from using it. Tuesday Noon is not so very different than something we named one of my kids. And what's the difference between NAY-omi and na-OMI? The first sounds correct to me, and the second incorrect.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 16:27:55 GMT
Some of the names being mocked in this thread are very similar in style to my kids' names... I love name threads, but hate them, too. I'm also not sure where any of you get off thinking you get to mock names to a mother's face in a movement to discourage her from using it. Tuesday Noon is not so very different than something we named one of my kids. And what's the difference between NAY-omi and na-OMI? The first sounds correct to me, and the second incorrect. Both can be correct it just one places the emphasis on the first part of the name and the other the second - and I probably didn't do a great job of illustrating it. Just to be clear I was saying it how I have heard 99% of people I have heard say the name say it. Secondarily this is my SIL who can't say my phonetically spelt name correctly. She calls me Christian not Kristen. And I didn't mock the name, but honestly if a person laughs at a name when you say it to them then there will be multiple people laughing/shaking their heads behind their backs. I like unusual names done well but we are currently in a society were we have people honestly just making it up and the kids have to live with the consequences.
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Post by melanell on Oct 24, 2015 16:32:07 GMT
I think it would be easier to have a name like "Fury" and turn out to be a calm, happy sort of person than to have the opposite situation where someone named Sunny or Joy turns out to be a chronic worrier or a nasty screaming sort.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:33:36 GMT
I guess I have a different viewpoint on this... every freaking name was made up at some point. And right now I work with a myriad of people who have names that would be considered "non-classic" in a (North) American elementary school... so I don't think the world is nearly as white anglo-Saxon as these name threads imply it should be. In a workplace full of people named things like Arien, Tarzen, Saddie, Queenie, Backram, Aras, etc, Fury doesn't seem very out of place.
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Post by gryroagain on Oct 24, 2015 16:35:12 GMT
These threads always crack me up because people are so myopic.
Fury sounds remarkably like the Puritan names of old- Solitude, Destitution, Prudence, etc. Not exactly new fangled.
And living in a country where my very normal by American standards name is the word for an insect and elicits giggles...it's all dependent on where you are standing, what is normal and what isn't! No Korean parent would ever, ever name their kid my name, there very well could be an alternate universe Korean 2 peas with people laughing at the moron who named her kid "ant".
But we do all like to feel superior I guess, which is why the perfectly normal name Bum Sook (in Korea) gave me fits of laughter as an elementary school kid. Poor guy, at least I had the excuse of being 10...now I meet Bum Sooks all the time.
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Post by MsKnit on Oct 24, 2015 16:39:40 GMT
Have a SIL. When she was pregnant she announce that she wanted the baby to be born at noon on a Tuesday and then she would name her "Tuesday Noon." (eye roll) To her face, I began to mock her and laugh--What if you get Friday 4:32? etc. etc. Child has a normal name. What's wrong with Tuesday? There was an actress by that name. Tuesday Weld/Well, something like that. I rather like the name Storm, too. Our child has what would be considered a traditional name, but his names are not common. If we would have had another boy, the name would also have been traditional, with the middle name being uncommon. He would have been named for FIL. I can only remember hearing the name one other time.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 16:49:19 GMT
I guess I have a different viewpoint on this... every freaking name was made up at some point. And right now I work with a myriad of people who have names that would be considered "non-classic" in a (North) American elementary school... so I don't think the world is nearly as white anglo-Saxon as these name threads imply it should be. In a workplace full of people named things like Arien, Tarzen, Saddie, Queenie, Backram, Aras, etc, Fury doesn't seem very out of place. all examples of unusual names done well IMHO. Though I would prefer a Sadie, I would think Saddie the opposite of Happy (would love to know the background to how that one came about).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 16:53:09 GMT
I guess I have a different viewpoint on this... every freaking name was made up at some point. And right now I work with a myriad of people who have names that would be considered "non-classic" in a (North) American elementary school... so I don't think the world is nearly as white anglo-Saxon as these name threads imply it should be. In a workplace full of people named things like Arien, Tarzen, Saddie, Queenie, Backram, Aras, etc, Fury doesn't seem very out of place. all examples of unusual names done well IMHO. Though I would prefer a Sadie, I would think Saddie the opposite of Happy (would love to know the background to how that one came about). This particular Saddie is not of caucasian descent and his name actually has a silent G at the end, which I left off intentionally for the purposes indicating pronunciation.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 16:54:13 GMT
Have a SIL. When she was pregnant she announce that she wanted the baby to be born at noon on a Tuesday and then she would name her "Tuesday Noon." (eye roll) To her face, I began to mock her and laugh--What if you get Friday 4:32? etc. etc. Child has a normal name. What's wrong with Tuesday? There was an actress by that name. Tuesday Weld/Well, something like that. I rather like the name Storm, too. Our child has what would be considered a traditional name, but his names are not common. If we would have had another boy, the name would also have been traditional, with the middle name being uncommon. He would have been named for FIL. I can only remember hearing the name one other time. I didn't perceive Tuesday at the problem but the coupling it with Noon that made her think twice. Names always bring out feelings because we are rather attached to ones we like. I'm still kinda shaking my head at my family and a cousin who gave their daughter the exact same name as a 2nd cousin once removed (I think I got that right), especially as the original was named for her deceased grandmother. It just makes you think, "huh, all the names in the world and you picked the exact same two".
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 16:55:26 GMT
all examples of unusual names done well IMHO. Though I would prefer a Sadie, I would think Saddie the opposite of Happy (would love to know the background to how that one came about). This particular Saddie is not of caucasian descent and his name actually has a silent G at the end, which I left off intentionally for the purposes indicating pronunciation. OK that makes more sense. Caucasian as in Russian? or do you mean White Anglo Saxon European?
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Post by mallie on Oct 24, 2015 16:56:51 GMT
I knew a kid once whose first name was King, who transferred to our school his senior year. I asked him once if he liked his name and he launched into this rant about how much he hated it. Apparently, he was named after his father's childhood dog, who was named King.
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Post by pierkiss on Oct 24, 2015 16:57:54 GMT
I hate this person name so much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 17:02:40 GMT
This particular Saddie is not of caucasian descent and his name actually has a silent G at the end, which I left off intentionally for the purposes indicating pronunciation. OK that makes more sense. Caucasian as in Russian? or do you mean White Anglo Saxon European? Caucasian, as in, white people in general.
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Post by leftturnonly on Oct 24, 2015 17:04:33 GMT
Some of the names being mocked in this thread are very similar in style to my kids' names... I love name threads, but hate them, too. I'm also not sure where any of you get off thinking you get to mock names to a mother's face in a movement to discourage her from using it. Tuesday Noon is not so very different than something we named one of my kids. And what's the difference between NAY-omi and na-OMI? The first sounds correct to me, and the second incorrect. Both can be correct it just one places the emphasis on the first part of the name and the other the second - and I probably didn't do a great job of illustrating it. Just to be clear I was saying it how I have heard 99% of people I have heard say the name say it. Secondarily this is my SIL who can't say my phonetically spelt name correctly. She calls me Christian not Kristen. And I didn't mock the name, but honestly if a person laughs at a name when you say it to them then there will be multiple people laughing/shaking their heads behind their backs. I like unusual names done well but we are currently in a society were we have people honestly just making it up and the kids have to live with the consequences. I get saying this to your SIL since she refuses to say your name correctly. Naomi is a really old and not so weird a name. Just sayin'.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 17:06:42 GMT
OK that makes more sense. Caucasian as in Russian? or do you mean White Anglo Saxon European? Caucasian, as in, white people in general. Nope. I'm white, not Caucasian. I have no Russian Caucasus Mountain roots such as the Boston Bombers. I have black friends that aren't African American too. They're Black British via the West Indies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 17:07:37 GMT
Caucasian, as in, white people in general. Nope. I'm white, not Caucasian. I have no Russian Caucasus Mountain roots such as the Boston Bombers. I have black friends that aren't African American too. They're Black British via the West Indies. Well. I'm glad you asked that question so you could handslap me into correction.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 17:10:35 GMT
Both can be correct it just one places the emphasis on the first part of the name and the other the second - and I probably didn't do a great job of illustrating it. Just to be clear I was saying it how I have heard 99% of people I have heard say the name say it. Secondarily this is my SIL who can't say my phonetically spelt name correctly. She calls me Christian not Kristen. And I didn't mock the name, but honestly if a person laughs at a name when you say it to them then there will be multiple people laughing/shaking their heads behind their backs. I like unusual names done well but we are currently in a society were we have people honestly just making it up and the kids have to live with the consequences. I get saying this to your SIL since she refuses to say your name correctly. Naomi is a really old and not so weird a name. Just sayin'. Yeah, I didn't say it was weird. Good old fashioned name, nearly as old as time. I was discussing pronunciation. Honestly, I didn't do it on purpose but she really was saying it weird. Not at all like Naomi Watts, Naomi Campbell, etc. I just thought it was weird she got hung up on my not saying it her "right way" when she doesn't say my name correctly.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 17:11:49 GMT
Nope. I'm white, not Caucasian. I have no Russian Caucasus Mountain roots such as the Boston Bombers. I have black friends that aren't African American too. They're Black British via the West Indies. Well. I'm glad you asked that question so you could handslap me into correction. Nope. I asked for clarification as you had brought up the different ethnicities of the children in your school and their backgrounds. A very legitimate question considering the names represented. Sorry you took it that way.
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Post by claudia123 on Oct 24, 2015 17:51:56 GMT
Caucasian, as in, white people in general. Nope. I'm white, not Caucasian. I have no Russian Caucasus Mountain roots such as the Boston Bombers. I have black friends that aren't African American too. They're Black British via the West Indies. Actually according to the oxford dictionary caucasian officially means both and actually russo-caucasion is more often used when referring specifically to people from the Russian Caucasus mountains.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 17:53:34 GMT
Yup. Caucasian = white people in general is an acceptable use.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Oct 24, 2015 17:55:56 GMT
Not a fan.
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Post by myshelly on Oct 24, 2015 17:57:42 GMT
This particular Saddie is not of caucasian descent and his name actually has a silent G at the end, which I left off intentionally for the purposes indicating pronunciation. OK that makes more sense. Caucasian as in Russian? or do you mean White Anglo Saxon European? I've never heard that Caucasian indicates Russian. I thought Caucasian just meant white?
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Post by artbabe on Oct 24, 2015 18:10:27 GMT
I like Fury. I like most names like that. I think Ashley's kids have wonderful names. I think people who make fun of those names are showing a pretty narrow point of view of the world.
I'm a teacher so I see a lot of those names.
I'm not a fan of creative spelling, but to each, their own...
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Post by myshelly on Oct 24, 2015 18:17:00 GMT
I like Fury. I like most names like that. I think Ashley's kids have wonderful names. I think people who make fun of those names are showing a pretty narrow point of view of the world. I'm a teacher so I see a lot of those names. I'm not a fan of creative spelling, but to each, their own... I agree. I *LOVE* Ashley's kids' names!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 18:18:22 GMT
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 18:28:50 GMT
Nope. I'm white, not Caucasian. I have no Russian Caucasus Mountain roots such as the Boston Bombers. I have black friends that aren't African American too. They're Black British via the West Indies. Actually according to the oxford dictionary caucasian officially means both and actually russo-caucasion is more often used when referring specifically to people from the Russian Caucasus mountains. Yes and in the context of the actual discussion it was confusing as the discussion was referring to names outside of the "normal" remit of North America. Personally I find Caucasian offensive as it is chiefly used in North America (also indicated in the dictionary). The Oxford Dictionary refers to popular usage as much as popular usage and thus updated regularly with new terms and meanings.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 18:30:23 GMT
OK that makes more sense. Caucasian as in Russian? or do you mean White Anglo Saxon European? I've never heard that Caucasian indicates Russian. I thought Caucasian just meant white? Only in North America. Fill out forms anywhere else in the world and you can be "white" "White European" "White Other" etc.
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Post by claudia123 on Oct 24, 2015 18:38:53 GMT
Actually according to the oxford dictionary caucasian officially means both and actually russo-caucasion is more often used when referring specifically to people from the Russian Caucasus mountains. Yes and in the context of the actual discussion it was confusing as the discussion was referring to names outside of the "normal" remit of North America. Personally I find Caucasian offensive as it is chiefly used in North America (also indicated in the dictionary). The Oxford Dictionary refers to popular usage as much as popular usage and thus updated regularly with new terms and meanings. Why does that offend you? I am English and would call my self white British, but the fact that another term is used elsewhere doesn't bother me. I also didn't find the term used confusing even though I myself am unlikely to ever use the word caucasian.
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Post by RiverIsis on Oct 24, 2015 18:53:19 GMT
Yes and in the context of the actual discussion it was confusing as the discussion was referring to names outside of the "normal" remit of North America. Personally I find Caucasian offensive as it is chiefly used in North America (also indicated in the dictionary). The Oxford Dictionary refers to popular usage as much as popular usage and thus updated regularly with new terms and meanings. Why does that offend you? I am English and would call my self white British, but the fact that another term is used elsewhere doesn't bother me. I also didn't find the term used confusing even though I myself am unlikely to ever use the word caucasian. I think that is EXACTLY the point. I'm White, British ancestry, my children are actually half British (I keep telling the DH he is Scottish but that just taking the mick), not a single Caucasian as far back as the Doomsday book. It's offensive because the term is basically it isn't true, it's a misnomer appropriated by a German theorist that we are all from there. It's a theory. Additionally as the world has gotten smaller it is confusing. The Caucasus are an actual place. The Boston Bombers, their family are Caucasian and have names from their region. My family is British/American/White and have similar names consistent with this ancestry. This thread is a prime example where we are discussing names and I ask for clarification of if the names are from the Caucasus or just White or even American White. I wasn't confused I just wanted clarification of what the person considered Caucasian because it isn't a term used outside of North America to indicate White Anglo Saxon heritage.
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