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Post by redshoes on Mar 9, 2016 3:45:09 GMT
How do you know when it is time to get speech therapy? My son will be 4 in June. He has no problems communicating, however he is not correctly pronouncing certain letters like "x" and "s". For both of these, he uses the "th" sound so I can tell his tongue is not in the right place.
Is this normal or typical of his age or should I go ahead and look into speech therapy? I have no idea!!! Help!
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Post by gsquaredmom on Mar 9, 2016 3:47:54 GMT
Are you in the US? Call your school district and ask about early childhood screening.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 3:48:03 GMT
google your state+ early childhood intervention. You'll find the contact info on the agency that can make an appointment to have your child evaluated to see if he is on track for his age or needs help. I think the service is free in most states.
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Post by honeyb on Mar 9, 2016 3:49:33 GMT
You can contact your local school district and they will test your child to see if they need any services. If your child needs services, they will provide.
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Post by kate on Mar 9, 2016 3:50:01 GMT
You may be able to get a speech screening through his preschool; a screening by a pro is your best bet.
I am not a speech pathologist (nor do I play one on TV), but our SLP said that lisps are not cause for alarm unless they persist past the age of 6. But when my DS was 5, he started getting teased for his lisp, so off to the SLP we went. The lisp cleared remarkably quickly, so I suspect it may have cleared up without intervention; however, I was not willing to have him teased for another year by jerky kids at the park!
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Post by redshoes on Mar 9, 2016 3:50:50 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions.
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Post by lorieann13 on Mar 9, 2016 3:51:28 GMT
My daughter had trouble with th sounds. By age 8/9 is when improper sounds become an issue. At 4 I wouldn't seek speech if those are the only two sounds he misses and speaks fine otherwise.
You can also address it in Kindergarten with the disrict and see what they say. You could even ask for a school assessment now. After age 3 (typically) is when schools assess for speech delays
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Post by honeyb on Mar 9, 2016 3:56:23 GMT
Just for your information (and this may not be the case in your state), but in my state it is much harder to qualify for help once you have started kindergarten. The process is much easier if started in pre school- you can qualify with less error this way. In my opinion, if you feel like there is something wrong, you have every right to check it out. Better safe then sorry.
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Post by librarylady on Mar 9, 2016 3:59:28 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions. Screening should be provided by your school district--unless you are in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere and have no speech therapist available.
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Post by lorieann13 on Mar 9, 2016 4:00:48 GMT
Here, unless there are severe speech issues, pre k kids do not receive speech therapy.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Mar 9, 2016 4:05:55 GMT
I'm no expert, but I believe that some sounds are easier for kids to learn to say than others and they develop those harder sounds later. My DD is almost six and still has a little trouble with /th/ and /s/ sounds, and she seems pretty much at the same place as most of her peers. She has never needed speech therapy. We sent her to Pre-K through the ECFE program here (in the same school building where the grade school is located), and there were some kids in her class then who were being pulled out a couple times a week to work one on one with the speech therapist at the grade school. All kids here have to go through a pre-school screening between ages 3 and 4 where they do a bunch of assessments, test the kid's vision and hearing, etc. If there are any major red flags, the parents and school district are aware before the kid gets to kindergarten so everyone can get a head start if a kid does need a little help. Here's a link about speech sounds to check out. Speech sound development
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 4:12:52 GMT
I second the school district. In some places, speech will get you into headstart. ( or the equivalent ). This is a good thing.
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Post by redshoes on Mar 9, 2016 4:20:51 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions. Screening should be provided by your school district--unless you are in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere and have no speech therapist available. We are in Keller, so I'm sure there are professionals in the area. I don't remember any screening processes with my daughter but she is 10 now so I probably am just not remembering.
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Post by redshoes on Mar 9, 2016 4:22:03 GMT
Thanks for the link-I will check it out!
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Post by Jili on Mar 9, 2016 5:44:07 GMT
I'm a school-based SLP. Does he have any other errors besides /s/ and /z/? Absolutely feel free to call your school district and request a screening, but be aware that unless your child has multiple errors that impact intelligibility, it's unlikely that he would be eligible for services. I personally am not the least bit concerned about a lisp (which is the error that you are describing) in a child of this age. I'm not necessarily concerned about that until age 7 or 8. Our department used to do a mass screening of all kindergartners. We compiled some data afterward which showed that about 35% of kindergarten students had this same speech sound error. That's a pretty large percentage, and we obviously don't pick up all of those students for intervention. Speech sounds are still developing, and there's no need to do that, as many of those students will not need any future intervention. Just for your information (and this may not be the case in your state), but in my state it is much harder to qualify for help once you have started kindergarten. The process is much easier if started in pre school- you can qualify with less error this way. In my opinion, if you feel like there is something wrong, you have every right to check it out. Better safe then sorry. What State are you in? I have been working in the schools for many years and this is not my experience at all. There's no 'edge' to attempting to start seeking evaluation or assistance earlier-- from an eligibility standpoint. Back to the OP-- I hope this information is helpful. Again, do not hesitate to request a screening if you wish to do so.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Mar 9, 2016 5:50:36 GMT
In addition to whatever you pursue through the school district, I'd ask your doctor for any referrals that she might think would be appropriate. My sister needed speech therapy when she was younger, and she not only got it through the elementary school, but we also traveled about 45 minutes to a therapist at one of the colleges. I was probably only 8 or 9 at the time, so I don't remember more of the details, but she was definitely getting treatment from two sources. (It's possible the referral to the college came from the district speech person, but now that I'm a grown up and know about these things, I am suggesting asking the doctor because, you know, insurance.)
In her case, the problem stemmed from a bunch of ear infections she had as a kid-- she never actually heard the correct sounds when she was supposed to be learning them.
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Post by nlwilkins on Mar 9, 2016 7:07:43 GMT
My grandson was started on speech therapy at 3 1/2 --their doctor set up the referral. My daughter was told that if he started at 3 then it would be state funded, but therapy starting at five meant she would have to pay for it. I have heard of this since then from others. This is in the state of Texas.
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Post by melanell on Mar 9, 2016 7:29:12 GMT
In PA, at that age, we would go through early childhood intervention to have him evaluated. Our schools pick up when the child starts kindergarten, and at that point, the early intervention unit no longer works with the child.
Our son had both individual, small group, and large group services through the local early intervention unit at ages 3-5.5 when he started kindergarten. Now he sees a speech therapist once a week at school.
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Mar 9, 2016 7:40:21 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions. I also live in Texas. My youngest son (he's 16 now) had delayed speech. I contacted Early Childhood Intervention and they did extensive testing with him. He was under the age of 3 when he began speech therapy and a speech therapist came to our home once a week. After he turned 3 I needed to take him to our local elementary school for speech therapy. He received services for about 1 1/2 years and then didn't need them anymore. Trust your instincts. If you think that his speech isn't what it should be then you should look into it. When DS #2 was about 2 1/2 was when I became concerned. When he was hungry he'd stand in front of the pantry and cry until I gave him something to eat. When he was thirsty he'd get a plastic drinking glass out of a low cabinet and stand in front of the refrigerator and cry until I gave him something to drink. I discussed my concerns with his doctor and she told me that at his age he should have 50 words that I could understand. He was able to say 50 words, but I still knew that his language skills weren't what they should be. My guess is that since it's so late in the school year they'll evaluate him and then have him begin speech therapy (if he qualifies) in the fall as a walk in to your local elementary school. In the meantime, you can work with him at home. Read to him and make sure to pronounce and enunciate the words correctly. Talk to him, sing songs, teach him rhymes. All of this is programming his brain and teaching him to love language. My DS had problems with the word dinosaur. Usually it's not a problem, but he liked playing with toy dinosaurs and needed a label for them. He called them "dah dos." When a preschooler calls something the wrong name like that simply use the correct name for the item. He'll pick up on it and begin using the correct word. Try to use the correct word frequently so he'll have something to model his speech after. I found some articles that might be helpful: How to teach the s soundHow to teach the z sound
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 9, 2016 13:53:33 GMT
Are you in the US? Call your school district and ask about early childhood screening. Yes, this! My sweet grandson had a severe speech delay. DIL called her school and they sent someone out to their home to evaluate him. The school district actually paid for his private therapy as he was profoundly delayed. He is doing great.
ETA - funny story...my mother was an elementary school librarian when DS was young. She asked the speech therapist in her school about DS because his K sounds were like T sounds. The therapist asked how old DS was...18 months!!!!! She told mom to get out of her office
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Post by just PEAchy on Mar 9, 2016 14:28:08 GMT
If you're concerned, I would have him tested. From there, you can make the decision whether or not to get services. My son has been in speech therapy since he was 3. The first year was with a private practice and then at age 4, I was able to start get services through the school district.
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Post by shamrock on Mar 9, 2016 14:50:07 GMT
Like others said, definitely contact your school district & ask for him to be tested. But be aware that saying certain sounds incorrectly can be "acceptable" until certain ages. It bugs me! I received intense speech therapy as a kindergartner for L, TH, R. I worked hard with the SLP at school for a year to get them correct. The school also provided summer services. My 2 boys had the same troubles. They got services for L & TH starting in 1st & preschool. But neither "qualified" for the R correction till the end of 3rd grade. The SLP told me that technically she shouldn't be working on that sound & it couldn't be on their IEP because it was not developmentally incorrect until later. So that meant they both had to have longer times receiving services. She should have dismissed both boys at the start of 2nd grade because they had the other sounds correct. But she knew she'd just have to reevaluate them & start the process over for the R sound a year later. So she adjusted things
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Post by myshelly on Mar 9, 2016 14:56:11 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions. I am in Texas. My nephew received a free evaluation from the school district at age 2 and has been in speech classes at the local elementary school since then. He's almost 4 now.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Mar 9, 2016 15:19:42 GMT
My daughter is in the middle of her externship for Speech Pathology. I asked her about this and she said she's worked with a five year old who said th for the s and z but only because she worked on lots of other sounds too. My daughter said s and z isn't developmentally appropriate at your son's age but if it hasn't cleared by 6 years old he'll possibly need therapy. As a teacher I also know that if a speech problem doesn't affect learning they often won't even test. There has to be an educational need. My youngest daughter said /t/ for her g's and k's and c's. We had her tested by the school district in her last few months of preschool and they had her in therapy by the time school started. It took only a year to fix it so i imagine it would have gone away on its own eventually. Without being able to say her /k/ sound totally changed the way she said her name so it was bothersome to us.
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Post by redshoes on Mar 9, 2016 18:45:05 GMT
Thanks all! I appreciate the help! Our son is on track developmentally, and has no problem communicating with a wide vocabulary, so this was just something I noticed. I talked with our preschool director this morning and they have someone come in to test the kids, so we will see where that leads.
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Post by scrappersue on Mar 9, 2016 19:03:35 GMT
My mom was a teacher so she knew that the schools in our state must test preschoolers if a parent requests it. My son was tested at 3 (earliest age) and qualified. He went to a preschool that was run through our school district and got speech therapy. He continued to get speech therapy until 5th grade when he "graduated" out of the program. He is a well spoken 22 year old now!
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Post by mandasue on Mar 10, 2016 17:30:52 GMT
We started around age 3. Your pediatrician should be able to pick up and tell you if your child needs a speech evaluation. I seem to remember you will need a note or recommendation from your ped in order to get into the school district's program. Their first step will be a long (an hour so) evaluation. Space is usually very limited & it can be an ordeal to get in even for the evaul. As far as when you should start if there is a need you need to start ASAP! The sooner the better. My little boy is 7 and in 1st grade now and he's still getting speech help. When we started only me and his twin sister could understand 50% of what he said, there was a lot I didn't catch and if he were not looking you dead in the eye or if he were even a tad upset, you could forget it. His speech has greatly improved but we still have a while to go.
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Post by mollycoddle on Mar 10, 2016 18:54:23 GMT
We wouldn't put a four-year-old in speech for just those sounds. They tend to develop later. But if they don't clear up in the next few years, you can go to an outside agency for therapy. You can emphasize those sounds when he says them incorrectly, just to make him more aware of the correct way to say them. You just repeat the word after him. Most error sounds clear up by themselves.
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 10, 2016 19:02:59 GMT
I'm in Texas-thank you for the suggestions. Screening should be provided by your school district--unless you are in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere and have no speech therapist available. even tiny towns are required to have services if someone needs them. They would probably have a central service provider that goes to multiple districts/schools. Op, go to your local district webpage and go under special education and find preschool or child find or something similar. Or call the district office to see where you would get screened. Other option that is usually cheaper than private would be a university with an slp program.
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Post by ilikepink on Mar 10, 2016 19:16:46 GMT
My twins both were evaluated at Pre-K, age 4. Both were in-school speech for a few years; one "graduated" in 2nd grade, the other still had R problems and continued until 3rd grade. I was never too concerned, because twins frequently have speech difficulties. Don't panic yet, there is still lots of time, but have him looked at (listened to??). My problem later became getting the two of them to shut up...... but that's another thread.
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