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Post by TankTop on Mar 13, 2016 11:21:00 GMT
Saturday morning I went to our local park to run. It was about 9:00 in the morning. Definitely light out, but still the world was mostly asleep. The area I like to run in usually has lot of people out and about. Yesterday there were some senior citizens, but not the usual runners and speed walkers. There is a one mile loop around some soccer fields and then some smaller loops that go into the woods and wind around. None of these loops are deep woods, but they tend to get isolated in spots even on busy days. I ran the big loop and then veered off to go on the smaller loops in the woods. As soon as I rounded the corner I saw this man and his little lap dog at the other end of a bridge. In that split second he creeped me out. I turned and ran back out into the open before I even got into the woods. A split second decision. Lesson #1 - Listen to you gut.
I ended up running to the entrance of the park and then across the street and through some neighborhoods. As I entered the park on my return he was sitting in the entrance parking lot. I stayed on the main road through the park and then headed back to my car. At this point I did not see him so I ran the big loop again. As I came around the final turn there he was sitting in his car grinning at me in the most obnoxious way. I ran straight to my car. By the time I got there he had pulled his car behind mine essentially blocking me in. I called my husband and spoke loudly to him as I got into my car. Lesson #2 - call the police, not your spouse. In thinking back on this, I was afraid I was wrong and he was just an innocent man. However, I was scared enough to make my husband write down a full description of his car and face. This should have been my clue. I put my car into reverse and he moved. I was prepared to go forward and through the grass. I thought I lost him. I went the opposite direction, but as soon as I got to the exit of the park there he was at the 4-way stop. It was a stand off. I forced him to go first by waiting him out until a car came up behind him. At that point I gave dh his license plate #. He turned into a neighborhood and I started to drive home. At the next light I noticed he was behind me again. I twisted and turned through town and he followed. He did not stop until I pulled into the police station parking lot. It is now the next morning. As I reflect on this I still have to wonder why have I not reported this to the police? Why am I so scared of being wrong? I will be reporting it to my cop friend today. Small town perks. Lesson #3 - If you are out by yourself, please buy some mace or pepper spray. I bought some last night at Dick's. It has a hand strap for running. Plus, it has a UV dye. If I use it and the person gets away the dye will show under black light even after showering. Here's hoping I don't accidently spray myself! ETA... I called my friend. He took down all the information and made a report. He was going to also contact the parks department so they could be aware. I asked him what the next step was and he said... "I make sure he never thinks about doing that again."
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Post by Rainbow on Mar 13, 2016 11:26:06 GMT
How scary! Is there any way you could take a buddy with you?
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TankTop
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Post by TankTop on Mar 13, 2016 11:28:55 GMT
How scary! Is there any way you could take a buddy with you? I don't have any friends who run. I will be varying my routes more and running more in neighborhoods. I live in the country, so I go to town for running. I told dh last night that the best thing ever would be a humane society by a park. People could stop in and borrow a dog for a run. Little dogs could go with those who are walking. It would be a total win-win.
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Post by jenjie on Mar 13, 2016 11:31:25 GMT
Wow! Creepy scary. I'm so glad you are OK. Smart thinking on your part and yes a good PSA.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Mar 13, 2016 11:36:12 GMT
That is so scary!! I'm a big fan of trust your gut!!
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Post by Rainbow on Mar 13, 2016 11:38:22 GMT
How scary! Is there any way you could take a buddy with you? I don't have any friends who run. I will be varying my routes more and running more in neighborhoods. I live in the country, so I go to town for running. I told dh last night that the best thing ever would be a humane society by a park. People could stop in and borrow a dog for a run. Little dogs could go with those who are walking. It would be a total win-win. That is a GREAT idea!
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Post by peabay on Mar 13, 2016 11:40:53 GMT
Yikes! That really is scary. Someone once followed my sister in law right into her driveway - before the cell phone era. She ran out of her car screaming like a maniac and he got scared and drove away.
Very good advice - particularly to trust your gut.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Mar 13, 2016 11:41:13 GMT
That is really scary stuff, Tanktop. I'm glad you're safe. A whistle isn't a bad idea to carry either.
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Mar 13, 2016 11:52:03 GMT
That is so scary. I was worried for you just reading your words. I could feel your fear.
I hope it never happens to you again. Please report him so it doesn't happen to anyone else.
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Post by AllieC on Mar 13, 2016 12:10:35 GMT
My heart was racing when I read that. I'm so glad you are ok but that must have been very frightening for you.
I would still report it to the police. The fact that he continued to follow you is a big worry.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Mar 13, 2016 12:15:27 GMT
How awful for you. I would definitely report it to the police.
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Post by jayfab on Mar 13, 2016 12:21:12 GMT
Holy Toledo! That was scary. I'm glad you listened to your gut and that you're ok.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 12:22:54 GMT
That is SO scary, I'm really glad you are so observant and nothing bad happened!! I am reading a book for book club called "The Double Bind" and the opening scene has a girl riding her bike in a beautiful wooded area, when two men pass her in a van, then get out and try to abduct her. That scene really rattled me. And now your "real life" encounter with a wierdo...it's upsetting to know how easily something like that could happen. As a woman you can't ever completely enjoy a walk/run/bike in a solitary setting. Men will never know that kind of fear, because really, women are almost never the weirdo/psycho/abductor in these scenarios.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Mar 13, 2016 12:30:46 GMT
It always fascinates me that as women we tend to second-guess our assessment of a situation like that and even worry about offending the other person by treating them suspiciously. I'm not blaming you at all... I've been guilty of the same thing. Please do report this. It is definitely worthy of a report especially since you have identifying information.
I also drive to a place to run. It's a track around the athletic facilities of a college. The hours can be limiting as the whole facility is gated and the scenery gets boring as I go round and round, but it's worth it to me for the security of it. I like to zone out when I run. I don't want to have to worry about the intentions of the people around me or the safety of the environment.
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Post by brandy327 on Mar 13, 2016 12:41:29 GMT
OMG! How freaking scary! I'm SO glad you were able to get away but I would definitely be reporting it!!
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Post by shamrockpea on Mar 13, 2016 12:42:38 GMT
I simply don't think people should run/walk alone in isolated areas. Those areas attracts rapists and tweakers and nothing will help you if the guy has a stun gun which many do. Stay safe andfind a partner.
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Post by littlefish on Mar 13, 2016 12:51:15 GMT
So scary! I have pepper spray and a whistle on a clip that I carry with me whenever I run. Have you read the book The Gift of Fear? I highly recommend it.
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Post by baslp on Mar 13, 2016 12:55:30 GMT
Thanks for sharing. You gave some great tips! Glad you made it home safely!
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Post by scrappysurfer on Mar 13, 2016 13:22:08 GMT
That is straight up scary as shit.
It made me think, I don't know where my nearest police station is. I need to know this. There is a fire station at the entrance to my neighborhood so in your situation I could drive there. Good for you for keeping a clear head and knowing what to do, especially at the four way stop!
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Post by TankTop on Mar 13, 2016 13:23:00 GMT
It always fascinates me that as women we tend to second-guess our assessment of a situation like that and even worry about offending the other person by treating them suspiciously. I'm not blaming you at all... I've been guilty of the same thing. Please do report this. It is definitely worthy of a report especially since you have identifying information. No offense taken at all! This is what I have been struggling with. Why did I KNOW it was wrong,mbut not call 911? So frustrating. Dd and I went to dinner last night and had a big talk about this. This is NOT the message I want to be sending her.
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Post by littlemama on Mar 13, 2016 13:27:32 GMT
The first two incidents, i would not have called the police for. Once he blocked me in, followed, me, stalked me at the the four way stop, and followed me.again, hell yes!! Please call the police this morning. The next woman might not be as savvy as you were.
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Post by KikiPea on Mar 13, 2016 13:32:05 GMT
Wow! That's awful! So glad you were able to get away.
Definitely report it, so it doesn't happen to you, or someone else, again. Hugs!
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Post by pelirroja on Mar 13, 2016 13:33:24 GMT
It's not too late to report it to police: you've got his car make model and license plate and a description of this guy. Please let them know. You might not be the first person this has happened to. Let the cops decide if this guy is a danger or not.
There's a great book called "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin deBecker. He's an FBI profiler who interviewed victims of violent crimes who lived to tell. All of them had a bad gut instinct but didn't want to hurt a stranger's feelings by jumping off the empty (except for the two of them) elevator, etc.
I had something similar happen with a guy who rolled by asking for directions to a street that did not exist in our area. I didn't get anywhere near the car, he just totally creeped me out. My cell phone was dead so I pretended it worked and said "Gee I don't know but my cop husband has probably heard of it. I'll call him". The guy was gone in a flash (and at a very high rate of speed, too). I have since learned to always charge the phone before heading out. And I carry mace, just in case. There's a company called Damsels in Distress that sells lets of protective gear for joggers and walkers.
You did good but the job isn't done until you let the cops know. He might have already committed crimes against others and you can help the police solve it and/or prevent future events. You can do this! And congrats for listening to that intuition: it's there for a reason.
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Post by purplebee on Mar 13, 2016 13:35:38 GMT
Oh that is terrifying. So glad you are safe, Tank Top. I walk on my dirt road in the afternoons after work. My Dh usually knows where I am heading, and it usually takes me an hour up and back. But there are a few stretches where there are just fields. I always have my phone and am talking on it at times, but pepper spray (or having my large German Shepherd accompany me) sounds like a good idea. Report the creep. Maybe if he is questioned it will put a scare into him. Be careful ladies!!
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Post by elaine on Mar 13, 2016 13:37:58 GMT
How terrifying! I'm so glad that you thought to drive to the police station and that you are okay.
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TankTop
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Post by TankTop on Mar 13, 2016 13:40:13 GMT
I am definitely reporting it today. Our cop friend worked the late shift. I am going to let him sleep a bit and then call him over.
Another thing I thought of... If you use a running/walking app make sure it is set to private. I go on mine sometimes to find routes. Just realized how column that is for someone's route to be public. Especially when you have a female profile picture.
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Post by wellway on Mar 13, 2016 13:44:49 GMT
That is scary. Glad you trusted you instincts, that you are ok and that you are going to report it. Hope the Police knock on his door and give him food for thought.
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Post by Zee on Mar 13, 2016 14:04:48 GMT
Once he blocked me in, I'd have called, but hindsight is 20/20, isn't it. I would have had DH call immediately with the license plate # as well. But I'm glad you're ok and will be reporting it today.
Don't just tell a cop buddy, go in and make a report (unless that's what you meant about small town living, I get that). You might be making a difference for some other woman.
I do have pepper spray, and a small stun gun, because I've met a weirdo on the path too once. Though I'm pretty sure he was just a weirdo, not someone who meant any physical harm. It was still unnerving enough for me to buy the spray and change up my habits.
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TankTop
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Post by TankTop on Mar 13, 2016 14:21:59 GMT
Once he blocked me in, I'd have called, but hindsight is 20/20, isn't it. I would have had DH call immediately with the license plate # as well. But I'm glad you're ok and will be reporting it today. Don't just tell a cop buddy, go in and make a report (unless that's what you meant about small town living, I get that). You might be making a difference for some other woman. I do have pepper spray, and a small stun gun, because I've met a weirdo on the path too once. Though I'm pretty sure he was just a weirdo, not someone who meant any physical harm. It was still unnerving enough for me to buy the spray and change up my habits. Yep, very small town. Police will come to your house to get a report. Most likely they will know who it is without even running the plate. We live in a "turn right at the red barn with the big rock on the corner" kind of town. Lol!
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Post by peano on Mar 13, 2016 14:30:30 GMT
Scary! I have walked alone with my dog(s) in remote areas for over 30 years and gratefully, I have never had an experience where someone became threatening or even creeped me out. But your experience gives me pause and has me thinking about pepper spray for the first time.
And, CrankyPea, I read The Double Bind years ago and it still haunts me--I sometimes think about it when I'm out walking alone.
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