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Post by walkerdill on Mar 28, 2016 11:40:42 GMT
My mother was diagnosed with stage 4 lymphoma a year ago. It has spread to her lungs & liver. She immediately quit smoking. Since quitting dmoking she found out she has COPD. She has been very lucky & has only needed radiation & it hasn't spread since then.
She found out 2 months ago that my dad was having an affair with her best friend. By that I mean she caught them together. They were married 44 years. She immediately got a lawyer & started divorce proceedings.
My dad has given her everything. I suspect he feels guilty because she's dying of cancer & cannot work. My mother has been all kinds of crazy since. She is totally unreasonable & you can't tell her anything about anything. My parents both frequent the same bar so alot of times they are both there at the same time. Its all kinds of crazy. I'm sure it's super stressful on my mom...but there are other bars.
My mom started smoking again this weekend. I'm so disappointed with her. She's killing herself & I can't just stand by & watch.
I'm still upset with my dad for his infidelity & tearing the family apart. I went from seeing him almost daily to now maybe once every other week for dinner. I really don't want to do that to my mom but I can't watch her kill herself.
Sorry I guess I just needed to vent. I'm so tired.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 11:51:16 GMT
I'm so sorry. You have a lot of very hard things to deal with going on. Hugs!
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Post by tincin on Mar 28, 2016 11:54:38 GMT
That has got to be difficult to go through, for both your Mom and you. I hope she will quit smoking again, for her sake as well as yours.
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Post by YooHoot on Mar 28, 2016 11:55:06 GMT
Sounds like your mom isn't handling the stress well (understandably). Is she in therapy at all? I imagine, cancer aside, the stress of finding out your spouse of 44 years cheated on you when you needed him most would be pretty detrimental. I feel so bad for her.
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Post by walkerdill on Mar 28, 2016 12:03:09 GMT
Sounds like your mom isn't handling the stress well (understandably). Is she in therapy at all? I imagine, cancer aside, the stress of finding out your spouse of 44 years cheated on you when you needed him most would be pretty detrimental. I feel so bad for her. No she's not in therapy but definitely should be! My dad has been unfaithful on several occasions. I think this one was different because it was her friend. I just hate the whole situation. So much anger
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Post by llinin on Mar 28, 2016 12:43:07 GMT
I am sorry your Mom is so sick. Honestly, if you know she is dying, what difference does it matter if she smokes now? Is not smoking going to change the outcome? If I knew I were dying of cancer and my spouse of 44 years cheated on me, well, I would probably start smoking again too. I can see being disappointed in your Dad, what he did is awful. For your Mom, well, I would extend her as much grace as is humanly possible. However disappointing her smoking is to you isn't relevant anymore, kwim? Sorry things are shitty right now.
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Post by peasapie on Mar 28, 2016 12:47:20 GMT
This must be so hard on you. Bad enough dealing with your mom being seriously ill, but your dad's behavior is inexcusable. I hope you can find a way to love them but not get sucked in to all the drama.
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Post by J u l e e on Mar 28, 2016 12:54:03 GMT
That is a really painful situation all around. I am so sorry.
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Post by auntkelly on Mar 28, 2016 12:55:08 GMT
I feel badly for your mom. I can't imagine dealing w/ her health issues and then finding out that her spouse was cheating with her best friend. It must be so hard on you as well. Hugs.
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Post by TankTop on Mar 28, 2016 13:15:49 GMT
Sounds like your mom isn't handling the stress well (understandably). Is she in therapy at all? I imagine, cancer aside, the stress of finding out your spouse of 44 years cheated on you when you needed him most would be pretty detrimental. I feel so bad for her. No she's not in therapy but definitely should be! My dad has been unfaithful on several occasions. I think this one was different because it was her friend. I just hate the whole situation. So much anger I understand how you feel, but I also see her side of it too. I can't imagine the stress and pain she is going through. Losing your friend and a husband. Wow. Add in cancer and she is hurting.
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Post by uksue on Mar 28, 2016 13:36:19 GMT
Maybe you can guide her into talking to someone professionally ( doesn't have to be a full on counselling course.) my head was all over the place last year when I was having my cancer treatment and talking to a professional ( I only had three sessions) really helped. I can't imagine dealing with that, the fact it is terminal AND learning my husband was cheating with my best friend.
Would she go to talk to someone if you went with her? With the specialised counselling I was offered last year they invited me to bring someone along if I thought it would help.
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Post by oldcrow on Mar 28, 2016 13:52:32 GMT
I am sorry your Mom is so sick. Honestly, if you know she is dying, what difference does it matter if she smokes now? Is not smoking going to change the outcome? If I knew I were dying of cancer and my spouse of 44 years cheated on me, well, I would probably start smoking again too. I can see being disappointed in your Dad, what he did is awful. For your Mom, well, I would extend her as much grace as is humanly possible. However disappointing her smoking is to you isn't relevant anymore, kwim? Sorry things are shitty right now. I feel pretty much the same. Although I think my feelings toward the father might be a little stronger than thinking he is awful. In fact several other words come to my mind. And I'm not too sure I would have anything to do with him at this time. The OP is upset about the smoking but doesn't seem too upset about the drinking even though the liver is also cancerous now. As far as the bar goes, why does she have to find a new one? He seems to be the reason *all kinds of crazy* started. Let him find a new drinking hole. Her husband of 44 years is no comfort, her daughter who is upset about her smoking is no comfort so if the cigarettes give her comfort no wonder she is smoking.
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Post by ilikepink on Mar 28, 2016 13:53:40 GMT
Wow - that's a lot for all of you to be going through. I had the smoking issue with my mom. She had severe COPD and back issues that limited her mobility. As she rarely left the house, I did all the shopping and refused to buy cigarettes for her. It became an issue, and we finally had a geriatric counselor to speak to both of us. As I was told, she is an adult and can make her own decisions, however wrong I may feel they are. The stress and depression she felt outweighed the benefits of not smoking. In your mom's circumstances losing her husband and best friend during this health problem may be overwhelming for her.
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Post by Kerri W on Mar 28, 2016 14:01:09 GMT
I am sorry your Mom is so sick. Honestly, if you know she is dying, what difference does it matter if she smokes now? Is not smoking going to change the outcome? If I knew I were dying of cancer and my spouse of 44 years cheated on me, well, I would probably start smoking again too. I can see being disappointed in your Dad, what he did is awful. For your Mom, well, I would extend her as much grace as is humanly possible. However disappointing her smoking is to you isn't relevant anymore, kwim? Sorry things are shitty right now. I feel pretty much the same. Although I think my feelings toward the father might be a little stronger than thinking he is awful. In fact several other words come to my mind. And I'm not too sure I would have anything to do with him at this time. The OP is upset about the smoking but doesn't seem too upset about the drinking even though the liver is also cancerous now. As far as the bar goes, why does she have to find a new one? He seems to be the reason *all kinds of crazy* started. Let him find a new drinking hole. Her husband of 44 years is no comfort, her daughter who is upset about her smoking is no comfort so if the cigarettes give her comfort no wonder she is smoking. I think there's a lot of good in these two quotes. I also wonder if maybe you're not so much disappointed in your parents and their decisions as you are scared/grieving? Perhaps being angry right now is one way of dealing with your mother's diagnosis? You sure do have a lot on your plate...maybe you would find comfort in a support group or talking to a counselor?
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Post by mikklynn on Mar 28, 2016 14:02:58 GMT
I'm so sorry. I have no words of wisdom for you. But, I am here with the other Refupeas to listen.
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Post by ginacivey on Mar 28, 2016 14:40:09 GMT
your title is 'i am tired of being disappointed by my parents'
have you considered that this has nothing to do with you
your mom has a lot on her plate - maybe try being understanding instead of pissy that she's smoking
you seem much more upset over that than you do with your cheating father - i don't know how you can have dinner with a man that repeatedly cheated on your mom -
your stage 4 cancer having mother
this isn't about you standing around 'watching your mom kill herself'
it's about your mother in pain - try being there for her without judging
gina
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Post by jenjie on Mar 28, 2016 15:06:21 GMT
I feel pretty much the same. Although I think my feelings toward the father might be a little stronger than thinking he is awful. In fact several other words come to my mind. And I'm not too sure I would have anything to do with him at this time. The OP is upset about the smoking but doesn't seem too upset about the drinking even though the liver is also cancerous now. As far as the bar goes, why does she have to find a new one? He seems to be the reason *all kinds of crazy* started. Let him find a new drinking hole. Her husband of 44 years is no comfort, her daughter who is upset about her smoking is no comfort so if the cigarettes give her comfort no wonder she is smoking. I think there's a lot of good in these two quotes. I also wonder if maybe you're not so much disappointed in your parents and their decisions as you are scared/grieving? Perhaps being angry right now is one way of dealing with your mother's diagnosis? You sure do have a lot on your plate...maybe you would find comfort in a support group or talking to a counselor? Yes And yes And yes I'm so sorry. About all of it.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 28, 2016 15:06:55 GMT
First I'll validate you that it's extremely difficult to watch our loved ones make choices we don't agree with - but now I'm going to give you some tough words. Your mother's time is limited. Whether she smokes or not - her 5 year survival prognosis is poor. She is not killing herself - she's dying. Think long and hard about how your actions now will feel down the road. It's never easy to lose a loved one - but I'll tell you - it's a whole lot harder when you're dealing with regrets and guilt about the relationship.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Mar 28, 2016 15:29:45 GMT
I have had cancer. There is always that fear in the back of my mind that when (not if) it comes back, it might be terminal. I quit smoking 26 years ago. I loved smoking. If I received a terminal diagnosis, I'd take it up again. Your mother is finding comfort in ways she can. At this point, it's not going to make a difference. It's hard to watch but you can't change it. You have to decide if you're going to spend the time she has left being angry and disappointed or being a comfort to her. You can't do both.
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Post by sunnyd on Mar 28, 2016 15:47:10 GMT
Your dad and your moms best friend are selfish, immature assholes & you need to tell them so! You have every right to be disappointed in them. Hugs to you & your mom!!
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Post by elaine on Mar 28, 2016 15:53:58 GMT
I am willing to bet that your mom is more than a little disappointed in the hand that life has dealt her right now. I know that it is hard on you to watch your parents struggle, but at this moment, your mom's pain and issues outweigh your disappointment in her (and I will admit the lack of empathy on your part for her is mind-boggling).
If my mother was going through all that your mom is going through, being disappointed in her attempts to cope would probably be one of the last reactions I would have.
I am also puzzled by your siding with your dad, regardless of his repeated infidelity. How can you eat dinner with him weekly? Why do you think he is entitled to hang out in "their" bar, while your dying mother should seek out a new bar and make new friends? It seems like your dad has no problem making new "friends" and could much more easily go cruising for new pieces of tail someplace else. Your dad owed your mom everything, not because she is dying and can't work, but because he is a cheater who couldn't keep his wedding vows. It is too bad your mom didn't dump him and take him to the cleaners long ago, after infidelity #1, so that she could have had some happiness before being diagnosed with terminal cancer.
I am sorry if this sounds harsh - hopefully you have left out important pieces of information, because what you have shared makes little sense to me in terms of your reactions.
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Post by debe on Mar 28, 2016 18:04:02 GMT
I have to agree with Gina--this is not about you. Have some sympathy for your Mom who has had her life shattered.
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Post by tinydogmafia on Mar 28, 2016 18:18:19 GMT
I am very sorry that at the end of her life, your mom was betrayed by her husband and her best friend. I can't comprehend or begin to imagine it.
Take a deep breath. Your anger at your mom's smoking is not needed. It will not change the outcome of her life now. She probably also feels abandoned by you, because you continue to see your father, who you say has torn apart your family.
I think you need some grief counseling. Your mom does too. She's doing the best she can to function given all the awful circumstances she's found herself in. Sure, she could find a new bar. And your dad could have found a mistress who wasn't your mom's bff. But those ships have sailed and you need to let go of all that and move forward the best you can.
I'm sorry you're going through all this.
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Post by moodyblue on Mar 28, 2016 18:42:58 GMT
You seem to be expecting a lot from your mother - who has stage four cancer, COPD, and is getting a divorce since her husband cheated on her with her best friend. Yet she should find a new place to hang out and handle things the way you think? Under the circumstances, just about any way she chooses to handle this would be understandable - except by you.
You may need some counseling to deal with things, because maybe you are angry that your mom is dying, and it's coming out as anger towards her and her choices. Later on, I'd think you'd rather be able to look back and be glad that you were as supportive as possible for your mom, so please think about finding a professional to talk to about all this. Your mom doesn't deserve to have you judging and being disappointed in her when she's coping with so much else along with her illness.
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Post by Mystie on Mar 28, 2016 19:04:28 GMT
Oh my goodness. That is some dreadfully painful stuff to deal with. I'm sorry.
I'm honestly not one to throw therapy at everyone and everything, but have you thought about seeing a counselor or therapist, just to have a place to vent and work through your own emotions? I really do believe it helps to get those feelings out, because they can eat away at you inside. :-(
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 19:15:40 GMT
I'm just very sorry you feel under it at all this.
Your parents are adults. They make their choices and have to live with them. You may feel the results of their choices, but there's really not much you are going to do to change either one of them.
As for the smoking, eh. My DB has stage 4 lung cancer. He's on hospice. He smokes. It's the one thing he can still do that brings him some measure of joy. I don't like it, but I support his choices because that's my job as his caretaker/support person. To support him.
Give them a little room. Don't buy into the drama. Tell you dad he's an ass. Prior affairs aside, he fucked your mom's friend while she was being treated for fucking cancer. Yeah, he's the ass. Give your mom a break.
And again, harsh words aside, I feel your exhaustion, and HUGS!
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Post by walkerdill on Mar 28, 2016 19:44:02 GMT
your title is 'i am tired of being disappointed by my parents' have you considered that this has nothing to do with you your mom has a lot on her plate - maybe try being understanding instead of pissy that she's smoking you seem much more upset over that than you do with your cheating father - i don't know how you can have dinner with a man that repeatedly cheated on your mom - your stage 4 cancer having mother this isn't about you standing around 'watching your mom kill herself' it's about your mother in pain - try being there for her without judging gina I guess I'm pissy because she has been given 5-15 years. I want her to be around for the 15. So yes I'm mad. I'm aloud to be mad/disappointed just like she's aloud to smoke. Regardless if my dad cheated or not he is still my dad and I love him...I'm just very upset with him & his decisions.
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Post by rodeomom on Mar 28, 2016 19:56:58 GMT
your title is 'i am tired of being disappointed by my parents' have you considered that this has nothing to do with you your mom has a lot on her plate - maybe try being understanding instead of pissy that she's smoking you seem much more upset over that than you do with your cheating father - i don't know how you can have dinner with a man that repeatedly cheated on your mom - your stage 4 cancer having mother this isn't about you standing around 'watching your mom kill herself' it's about your mother in pain - try being there for her without judging gina I guess I'm pissy because she has been given 5-15 years. I want her to be around for the 15. So yes I'm mad. I'm aloud to be mad/disappointed just like she's aloud to smoke. Regardless if my dad cheated or not he is still my dad and I love him...I'm just very upset with him & his decisions. Not sure I could love a man who did that to my mom!
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Post by freecharlie on Mar 28, 2016 20:04:40 GMT
your title is 'i am tired of being disappointed by my parents' have you considered that this has nothing to do with you your mom has a lot on her plate - maybe try being understanding instead of pissy that she's smoking you seem much more upset over that than you do with your cheating father - i don't know how you can have dinner with a man that repeatedly cheated on your mom - your stage 4 cancer having mother this isn't about you standing around 'watching your mom kill herself' it's about your mother in pain - try being there for her without judging gina I guess I'm pissy because she has been given 5-15 years. I want her to be around for the 15. So yes I'm mad. I'm aloud to be mad/disappointed just like she's aloud to smoke. Regardless if my dad cheated or not he is still my dad and I love him...I'm just very upset with him & his decisions. My mom felt the same way about my grandma. My grandma lived alone and smoking gave her something to do. My mom refused to buy my grandma her cigarettes for a while after my grandma was in the hospital. It strained their relationship. My mom finally realized it was my grandma's life and she got to make her own decisions. Forcing her to quit smoking was not my mother's right. When my mom let go of the control, their relationship got back to normal. My grandma finally quit after her last hospital stay. I think that was more because she didn't have the energy to smoke. In this case, your mom is alone. She is scared. She has cancer. She is the one dying. You can be mad at her, but please don't let her know it. You aren't going to change her and there is a chance you will strain your relationship.
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Post by epeanymous on Mar 28, 2016 20:11:02 GMT
You know, some folks have suggested therapy for your mom, but I am not sure you wouldn't benefit as well. You are going through a very tough, stressful time, and on the one hand, all of your emotions about your parents are understandable, and on the other hand, your mother has a terminal diagnosis and really needs your support right now. I think it might help you to have a therapist who can help you figure out how much you can give and how to have boundaries that are reasonable for you.
I am sorry you are dealing with this. I hope you and your parents all find peace.
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