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Post by peabay on Jul 18, 2016 18:07:54 GMT
I know a LOT of PTSD combat vets. In fact I was with a whole group of them yesterday and the topic of cop killings came up. Every single one of them was upset and disgusted about it. I just don't believe that PTSD is the reason these officers are being ambushed and slaughtered. No one is saying that it is the sole reason. I would never say that. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two were combat veterans.
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Post by lindas on Jul 18, 2016 18:11:53 GMT
I know a LOT of PTSD combat vets. In fact I was with a whole group of them yesterday and the topic of cop killings came up. Every single one of them was upset and disgusted about it. I just don't believe that PTSD is the reason these officers are being ambushed and slaughtered. No one is saying that it is the sole reason. I would never say that. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two were combat veterans. It's also no coincidence that the last two were black out solely to kill police.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 18, 2016 18:13:46 GMT
I know a LOT of PTSD combat vets. In fact I was with a whole group of them yesterday and the topic of cop killings came up. Every single one of them was upset and disgusted about it. I just don't believe that PTSD is the reason these officers are being ambushed and slaughtered. No one is saying that it is the sole reason. I would never say that. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two were combat veterans. I don't think the sniper could have been anything BUT military trained. He was a good shot. That said, if it had been a white shooter, targeting police at what should have been a peaceful protest, would the thought not be that he was a racist asshole that just wanted to mess up the protest and get black people blamed?
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Post by peabay on Jul 18, 2016 18:15:05 GMT
No one is saying that it is the sole reason. I would never say that. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two were combat veterans. It's also no coincidence that the last two were black out solely to kill police. The Baton Rouge shooter was part of the "sovereign citizen" movement - I think his being black was irrelevant, given that he shot a black officer too. Whatever the motivations, whatever the races, whatever the military status, it's tragic. All of it.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 18, 2016 18:21:10 GMT
It's also no coincidence that the last two were black out solely to kill police. The Baton Rouge shooter was part of the "sovereign citizen" movement - I think his being black was irrelevant, given that he shot a black officer too. Whatever the motivations, whatever the races, whatever the military status, it's tragic. All of it. while I agree based on what we know right now that his being black seems to be irrelevant, I don't think the fact that he shot a black officer is proof of that. Often times the criminal element feels that someone who is a cop has betrayed their criminal community and is a traitor (not just aa, but think of the mob or the mafia or the whatever race family who lives in the desert and cooks meth or what have you)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 18:26:07 GMT
Hi, I have to take offense to this, not ALL white people owned slaves. My ancestors are Native Americans(the first ones robbed even before black people)and emigrated from Italy. Then that statement about prior miltary service, nice way to offened. Can't we try to have a civil conversation without attacking? This thread was not intended to turn into a race debate. Your offense was noted and filed away. Your argument is too fucking typical for me to even address though so you will have to try again with one of the peas daughters black boyfriends Whoa....nice manners. People like you are the reason why things will never move forward. As soon a diffrent point of view is posted, that dosen't line with yours, you can't engange. You hate mongers are the ones that try to squash progress and unity. To you I say, have fun in your miserable world...all alone.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jul 18, 2016 18:49:05 GMT
So did Tishy delete her account?
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 18, 2016 18:53:05 GMT
So did Tishy delete her account? it looks like it.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 18, 2016 20:24:03 GMT
I know a LOT of PTSD combat vets. In fact I was with a whole group of them yesterday and the topic of cop killings came up. Every single one of them was upset and disgusted about it. I just don't believe that PTSD is the reason these officers are being ambushed and slaughtered. No one is saying that it is the sole reason. I would never say that. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two were combat veterans. Hasn't it been reported that the one in Baton Rouge wasn't in combat. He was a data network specialist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:40:46 GMT
I think this same reasoning applies to law enforcement as well. Bad officers do not represent all officers, yet there are people that don't care about that and want retaliation against all of them. I also take umbrage with the labeling of these officers involved in these shootings as "bad" cops. There is no evidence that they are "bad". This implies they are bad people at the core, a disgrace to the uniform. They are HUMAN beings, who in a tense and dangerous situation, had to make a split second decision that not one of us arm chair QBs could even fathom making. They had to decide, in the blink of an eye, if there was a threat to their lives and then had to decide if they could take the life of another human being. At that moment, they effing skin color of the person on the other end of the gun wasn't wven a consideration. There was nothing "bad" about those cops. Just human instinct and training. I assure you, ANY man or woman who puts that uniform on could end up in the same situation on any given day. Also, side note - Michael Brown, upon whom this entire black lives matter bullshit was started, was a wanna-be cop killer and guess who is headlining the DNC convention? His mother. The thugs mother speaking at the DNC, which is going to be protected by hundreds of police officers. There is something seriously wrong with democrats. Hi @lynlam. I thought maybe you had left the board. I see you are your usual diplomatic self. By the way there is nothing seriouly wrong with Democrats. But I can't say that about the Republicans after watching the dump Trump group running around the floor of the convention center looking the secretary so they can give him/her a petition who apparently is hiding. It seems to me the Republicans at the convention should all be wearing red noses, big colorful wigs, and big shoes. That is appropriate attire for the Trump Family Convention. The fact is some of the cops involved in these shooting probably should find another line of work as they aren't suited for the job. As always I have an example. Years ago in my neck of the woods an elderly woman was having some sort of mental episode. The family became concerned and called the police. An officier arrived and shot her dead. The reason "he feared for his life". The reason he feared for his life was because she was holding a vegtable peeler and she was Asian. He felt because she was Asian that she was getting ready to attack him with some sort of martial art move. So he shot her and was not held accountable. Thing is she didn't know any martial arts moves. She was just an old lady with a vegtable peeler. Ever since then I have been following these types of shootings and that of unarmed black men. None of the officers involved were ever held accountable. Never questioned because the officer always said " I feared for my life". But the law of averages would suggest not all these shootings were "righteous" shootings. It wasn't until Michael Brown's death that these types of shootings by cops were questioned. Was the kid a thug? I don't know but it was the straw that finally broke the camel's back and the public started to take a closer look at these shootings and ask questions I think that should have been asked all those years ago when an officer killed an old lady holding a vegtable peeler because he "feared for his life". So instead of condemning Michael Brown it should be acknowledged his shooting finally brought to light what I think is a serious problem for not only black men but people having some sort of mental episode as well. Do I think all cops are bad or racist. Absoulately not. But there is problem that has been bubbling for decades and now that it has been exposed there is no quick fix and things have deteriorated to what happened in Dallas and Baton Rouge. And I honestly don't know how it can be fixed because nobody wants to listen to what the other side says.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:54:10 GMT
I agree 100%. Remember these people doing these events are ALONE. These events are not a movement but instead single acts. I can't speak for the motivations of this person but copycat behavior is a possibility. This is why suicides are not widely reported in the media. It is possible that all the media attention and notoriety of previous acts are planting seeds in the minds of individual people who are already unhinged. On the news in Florida, yesterday, there was credible threats to ambush all police officers. That takes more than one unhinged person. tishy: THIS probably explains why I saw cops yesterday and today in pairs!! I never see that here. And I'm seeing even more sheriff/cop cars all over the place. Makes me sit up and take notice (I'm always thinking that something BIG is going on if there are THAT many on the road at once). Scary times!
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 18, 2016 20:56:31 GMT
I also take umbrage with the labeling of these officers involved in these shootings as "bad" cops. There is no evidence that they are "bad". This implies they are bad people at the core, a disgrace to the uniform. They are HUMAN beings, who in a tense and dangerous situation, had to make a split second decision that not one of us arm chair QBs could even fathom making. They had to decide, in the blink of an eye, if there was a threat to their lives and then had to decide if they could take the life of another human being. At that moment, they effing skin color of the person on the other end of the gun wasn't wven a consideration. There was nothing "bad" about those cops. Just human instinct and training. I assure you, ANY man or woman who puts that uniform on could end up in the same situation on any given day. Also, side note - Michael Brown, upon whom this entire black lives matter bullshit was started, was a wanna-be cop killer and guess who is headlining the DNC convention? His mother. The thugs mother speaking at the DNC, which is going to be protected by hundreds of police officers. There is something seriously wrong with democrats. Hi @lynlam. I thought maybe you had left the board. I see you are your usual diplomatic self. By the way there is nothing seriouly wrong with Democrats. But I can't say that about the Republicans after watching the dump Trump group running around the floor of the convention center looking the secretary so they can give him/her a petition who apparently is hiding. It seems to me the Republicans at the convention should all be wearing red noses, big colorful wigs, and big shoes. That is appropriate attire for the Trump Family Convention. The fact is some of the cops involved in these shooting probably should find another line of work as they aren't suited for the job. As always I have an example. Years ago in my neck of the woods an elderly woman was having some sort of mental episode. The family became concerned and called the police. An officier arrived and shot her dead. The reason "he feared for his life". The reason he feared for his life was because she was holding a vegtable peeler and she was Asian. He felt because she was Asian that she was getting ready to attack him with some sort of martial art move. So he shot her and was not held accountable. Thing is she didn't know any martial arts moves. She was just an old lady with a vegtable peeler. Ever since then I have been following these types of shootings and that of unarmed black men. None of the officers involved were ever held accountable. Never questioned because the officer always said " I feared for my life". But the law of averages would suggest not all these shootings were "righteous" shootings. It wasn't until Michael Brown's death that these types of shootings by cops were questioned. Was the kid a thug? I don't know but it was the straw that finally broke the camel's back and the public started to take a closer look at these shootings and ask questions I think that should have been asked all those years ago when an officer killed an old lady holding a vegtable peeler because he "feared for his life". So instead of condemning Michael Brown it should be acknowledged his shooting finally brought to light what I think is a serious problem for not only black men but people having some sort of mental episode as well. Do I think all cops are bad or racist. Absoulately not. But there is problem that has been bubbling for decades and now that it has been exposed there is no quick fix and things have deteriorated to what happened in Dallas and Baton Rouge. And I honestly don't know how it can be fixed because nobody wants to listen to what the other side says. was the peeler in Colorado or did it make national news? I seem to remember it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 21:03:10 GMT
This guy was no part of any black movement. He was part of the sovereign citizen movement. Sovereign Citizen I started reading about this last night and it is absolutely crazy stuff. (definition of irony: group that eschews government and rules has membership cards) *opinions from the older generation in my family: My mother is absolutely convinced that the reason that everything feels like it is exploding right now is because of the wide spread and overwhelming heat. She says that it is the abnormal heat that is driving people who are already on the edge right over that edge and into acting impulses that they may have been able to keep under control previously. Maybe to a degree she has a point. *shrug* I wonder if I'm close to your mother's age, because that's EXACTLY how I felt when I first moved down to FL (I know... I know... I'm always raggin' on FL!). But it *does* seem like the FL heat melts your brain and just makes you explode (or implode). Seriously, I don't know who has the fortitude to WALK or ride a bike in 100 degree temps with high humidity. Even if they're 3rd generation Floridians, it's still got to wear on your brain/judgment/common sense a bit, huh???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 21:19:24 GMT
This is such a heated thread that I'm hesitant to post on it, but.............
Did anyone continue watching CNN late last night?? One of the LA deputies was on and he was so angry. He was speaking to Don Lemon. It was pretty late (maybe 10:30 pm?). I couldn't catch all of the conversation (I was blowdrying my hair for an early morning workday), but I wish I heard the entire thing! He was saying to Don Lemon that it's the media's fault that they skew things and blow them out of proportion. They are the ones who focus on racial angles of a situation. He was saying that for the past 2 years there were the same amount of people killed by cops, but now with cellphones and the news media always showing it and focusing on it, some whacked out people take it to the next level and have their own agenda to kill ALL of the cops.
I'll have to look for that link to the interview because it was compelling. If, in fact, that's true, then we all should be very leary of believing what we're hearing.
My heart is broken for all of the cops that were killed in the line of duty, trying to do their jobs. Seems like some were lured into situations and then killed. It's unthinkable.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 18, 2016 21:23:27 GMT
I started reading about this last night and it is absolutely crazy stuff. (definition of irony: group that eschews government and rules has membership cards) *opinions from the older generation in my family: My mother is absolutely convinced that the reason that everything feels like it is exploding right now is because of the wide spread and overwhelming heat. She says that it is the abnormal heat that is driving people who are already on the edge right over that edge and into acting impulses that they may have been able to keep under control previously. Maybe to a degree she has a point. *shrug* I wonder if I'm close to your mother's age, because that's EXACTLY how I felt when I first moved down to FL (I know... I know... I'm always raggin' on FL!). But it *does* seem like the FL heat melts your brain and just makes you explode (or implode). Seriously, I don't know who has the fortitude to WALK or ride a bike in 100 degree temps with high humidity. Even if they're 3rd generation Floridians, it's still got to wear on your brain/judgment/common sense a bit, huh??? My mom is 69, I'm 50 (next week ) but I do think the heat can make people a little nutsy. You do get used to though, and I can't stop my life-yards still have to mowed, walks still taken, beaches still visited... Although, even I have been complaining lately about how flippin hot it is. (I know you aren't happy here, and I wish that I could help you see better what a neat place Florida is. )
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 18, 2016 21:28:52 GMT
No, Gia, when you finish your opinion with "that needs to stop," you're telling people what opinions they can and can't post. I'm just following your lead... If you're maintaining that @tishy didn't receive the "unconsciously biased" label (and now the outright racist label) then I didn't decide anything for anyone. I wasn't trying to coin a new term. That was the best way I could think of to describe what I thought she was doing (and what I see others do often)--they are showing bias without realizing it. I also wasn't saying that she was racist--she said that she was feeling racist due to her thoughts, and then proceeded to make the comment about "blacks". I have said before, I was not intending to attack or call names, but wanted to reframe it so that she was looking at the situation differently, and therefore maybe her thoughts would be more in line with how she typically sees things. I have also said that I think we all have biases. Some are more blatant and others are not. Being more aware of them is the way to move forward in relationships with others. I recognize her name, but have no idea what Tishy has posted in the past or how she interacts with others. I assume she is a good person and again, was not intending to attack or call names.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 18, 2016 21:33:07 GMT
White people have a reputation too. I think that's why shit is about to go real bad for America as it relates to international relations. Everyone knows the nature of white people and they seem to be bombing us all in retaliation. Don't worry about black people. Imagine one large house. Imagine a field of slaves. A people stolen from their rich lands. Men who've been beaten. Women who've been raped and separated from their children. Remember that large house? It only has one master. Black people aren't generally vengeful people. Unless they've had prior military service. Your post would have had a lot more relevance in 1870.... Hell, let's give you the benefit of the doubt and give you an entire century..... 1970... than it does today approximately 51 years after Martin Luther King, Jr. marched in Selma. Are you even that old? Were you born after the US fully recognized the civil rights of people of color? Flower Power. Peace Out.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 19, 2016 0:39:41 GMT
I don't think @tishy 's post is the example of "unconscious bias". She said: She's clearly not lumping all blacks together, as you claim, when she's only talking about those "targeting the police". You know, the part of the quote that you left off in order to make your point, because including it would have made your point invalid. To be honest, it's posts like yours that make it so others don't want to wade into these discussions out of fear of being labeled as social outcasts. Because often (like in this case) the labels aren't logical, so they never know what they might say that might earn them the label, so they say nothing. By doing what you just did, you stop people from learning real things and you stop yourself and the rest of us from learning from others who won't post because of posts like yours. Unfair, untrue labels. THAT needs to stop too. I read the post the same way as Kristin did. The statement "Do blacks..." is the beginning of lumping together a group of people. Of course most black people aren't in favor of murder and those that are, aren't doing it to help anything out. I did too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 1:28:38 GMT
I'm just following your lead... If you're maintaining that @tishy didn't receive the "unconsciously biased" label (and now the outright racist label) then I didn't decide anything for anyone. I wasn't trying to coin a new term. That was the best way I could think of to describe what I thought she was doing (and what I see others do often)--they are showing bias without realizing it. I also wasn't saying that she was racist--she said that she was feeling racist due to her thoughts, and then proceeded to make the comment about "blacks". I have said before, I was not intending to attack or call names, but wanted to reframe it so that she was looking at the situation differently, and therefore maybe her thoughts would be more in line with how she typically sees things. I have also said that I think we all have biases. Some are more blatant and others are not. Being more aware of them is the way to move forward in relationships with others. I recognize her name, but have no idea what Tishy has posted in the past or how she interacts with others. I assume she is a good person and again, was not intending to attack or call names. If you say that was not your intention, then I believe you. Absolutely. I just hope you understand why I thought that. The fact that you quoted a sentence, but not the complete sentence, leaving out the very specific part that shows who she was referring to was not all black people, but only those "targeting police". It looked (to me) very intentional. But, again, if you say it wasn't, then it wasn't. I just get tired of the "no matter what you say it'll be racist" attitude. I participated in a discussion last year about another cop case. I was demonized for adding to the conversation what one witness said (who happens to be black if it matters), that had absolutely nothing to do with race whatsoever. So I went back to saying I'll need to wait until all the facts come out before I can make an informed opinion. For that I was smacked as racist for not immediately condemning the cop. So then I say nothing and that was "proof of racism" and everyone was condemned in that way just the other day. None of that has anything to do with you, but it's pertinent in showing how frustration builds and where responses to what looks to be silencing opposing views come from. It's that never ending, "no matter what you say or don't say it's racist" mentality among other mentalities that keeps people from even participating. People get chased off the board and you (general you) begin to create an echo chamber where the only sound you hear is the sound of heads nodding in unison. It's just not good for productive discussion to shame other viewpoints into silence and certainly not good for the intellect. I understand now, that none of that was your intent and hopefully we can move on from here.
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2016 1:33:53 GMT
Im sad that @tishy deleted her account.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 1:46:01 GMT
I wonder if I'm close to your mother's age, because that's EXACTLY how I felt when I first moved down to FL (I know... I know... I'm always raggin' on FL!). But it *does* seem like the FL heat melts your brain and just makes you explode (or implode). Seriously, I don't know who has the fortitude to WALK or ride a bike in 100 degree temps with high humidity. Even if they're 3rd generation Floridians, it's still got to wear on your brain/judgment/common sense a bit, huh??? My mom is 69, I'm 50 (next week ) but I do think the heat can make people a little nutsy. You do get used to though, and I can't stop my life-yards still have to mowed, walks still taken, beaches still visited... Although, even I have been complaining lately about how flippin hot it is. (I know you aren't happy here, and I wish that I could help you see better what a neat place Florida is. ) Happy big 5-0 to you, in advance!! Your 50's are a lot of fun.... I turned 55 last November, and it felt like a big deal. The 50's feel like a point where you begin to appreciate how important life is, how short it could be and how important good relationships are. I hope you'll be celebrating it like a Queen!! As far as the weather, I don't know when we'd adjust to it. We're here for 5 years now! Whenever we go back to NY, even if it's in the dead of winter, during a blizzard, my body adjusts. I just know that I'm meant to be up north with those 4 seasons...... As for the beauty down here, I actually have seen some. We've been to a lot of places on this side of the State. I'd opt to vacation here for a week, but that's about it. I miss to much up in NY, mainly my mom and family. Again, HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you!! Enjoy it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 15:05:07 GMT
Hi @lynlam . I thought maybe you had left the board. I see you are your usual diplomatic self. By the way there is nothing seriouly wrong with Democrats. But I can't say that about the Republicans after watching the dump Trump group running around the floor of the convention center looking the secretary so they can give him/her a petition who apparently is hiding. It seems to me the Republicans at the convention should all be wearing red noses, big colorful wigs, and big shoes. That is appropriate attire for the Trump Family Convention. The fact is some of the cops involved in these shooting probably should find another line of work as they aren't suited for the job. As always I have an example. Years ago in my neck of the woods an elderly woman was having some sort of mental episode. The family became concerned and called the police. An officier arrived and shot her dead. The reason "he feared for his life". The reason he feared for his life was because she was holding a vegtable peeler and she was Asian. He felt because she was Asian that she was getting ready to attack him with some sort of martial art move. So he shot her and was not held accountable. Thing is she didn't know any martial arts moves. She was just an old lady with a vegtable peeler. Ever since then I have been following these types of shootings and that of unarmed black men. None of the officers involved were ever held accountable. Never questioned because the officer always said " I feared for my life". But the law of averages would suggest not all these shootings were "righteous" shootings. It wasn't until Michael Brown's death that these types of shootings by cops were questioned. Was the kid a thug? I don't know but it was the straw that finally broke the camel's back and the public started to take a closer look at these shootings and ask questions I think that should have been asked all those years ago when an officer killed an old lady holding a vegtable peeler because he "feared for his life". So instead of condemning Michael Brown it should be acknowledged his shooting finally brought to light what I think is a serious problem for not only black men but people having some sort of mental episode as well. Do I think all cops are bad or racist. Absoulately not. But there is problem that has been bubbling for decades and now that it has been exposed there is no quick fix and things have deteriorated to what happened in Dallas and Baton Rouge. And I honestly don't know how it can be fixed because nobody wants to listen to what the other side says. was the peeler in Colorado or did it make national news? I seem to remember it It happened in Northern Ca years and years ago.
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Post by missmiss on Jul 19, 2016 19:02:41 GMT
I also take umbrage with the labeling of these officers involved in these shootings as "bad" cops. There is no evidence that they are "bad". This implies they are bad people at the core, a disgrace to the uniform. They are HUMAN beings, who in a tense and dangerous situation, had to make a split second decision that not one of us arm chair QBs could even fathom making. They had to decide, in the blink of an eye, if there was a threat to their lives and then had to decide if they could take the life of another human being. At that moment, they effing skin color of the person on the other end of the gun wasn't wven a consideration. There was nothing "bad" about those cops. Just human instinct and training. I assure you, ANY man or woman who puts that uniform on could end up in the same situation on any given day. Also, side note - Michael Brown, upon whom this entire black lives matter bullshit was started, was a wanna-be cop killer and guess who is headlining the DNC convention? His mother. The thugs mother speaking at the DNC, which is going to be protected by hundreds of police officers. There is something seriously wrong with democrats. Hi @lynlam . I thought maybe you had left the board. I see you are your usual diplomatic self. By the way there is nothing seriouly wrong with Democrats. But I can't say that about the Republicans after watching the dump Trump group running around the floor of the convention center looking the secretary so they can give him/her a petition who apparently is hiding. It seems to me the Republicans at the convention should all be wearing red noses, big colorful wigs, and big shoes. That is appropriate attire for the Trump Family Convention. The fact is some of the cops involved in these shooting probably should find another line of work as they aren't suited for the job. As always I have an example. Years ago in my neck of the woods an elderly woman was having some sort of mental episode. The family became concerned and called the police. An officier arrived and shot her dead. The reason "he feared for his life". The reason he feared for his life was because she was holding a vegtable peeler and she was Asian. He felt because she was Asian that she was getting ready to attack him with some sort of martial art move. So he shot her and was not held accountable. Thing is she didn't know any martial arts moves. She was just an old lady with a vegtable peeler. Ever since then I have been following these types of shootings and that of unarmed black men. None of the officers involved were ever held accountable. Never questioned because the officer always said " I feared for my life". But the law of averages would suggest not all these shootings were "righteous" shootings. It wasn't until Michael Brown's death that these types of shootings by cops were questioned. Was the kid a thug? I don't know but it was the straw that finally broke the camel's back and the public started to take a closer look at these shootings and ask questions I think that should have been asked all those years ago when an officer killed an old lady holding a vegtable peeler because he "feared for his life". So instead of condemning Michael Brown it should be acknowledged his shooting finally brought to light what I think is a serious problem for not only black men but people having some sort of mental episode as well. Do I think all cops are bad or racist. Absoulately not. But there is problem that has been bubbling for decades and now that it has been exposed there is no quick fix and things have deteriorated to what happened in Dallas and Baton Rouge. And I honestly don't know how it can be fixed because nobody wants to listen to what the other side says. It is still happening to this day. Many police officers do not know how to handle mentally ill citizens. Just a month ago a dad called the police because his 20 year old son was not doing well mentally. He broke into his dad's house and barricaded himself with a throwing knife. Dad called the police and they came. Instead of talking to him they slammed the door open while 2 of them held riot shields. The son stood up holding the throwing knife and they killed him. I am sure the dad did not call the police to have his son gunned down like he was. They had no reason to go in the room. They could have talked to him. Some police are not properly trained and it is showing. This isn't new. This has been happening for decades but it is finally starting to come out.
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