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Post by deshacrafts on Aug 4, 2016 19:48:03 GMT
What a nightmare. Good luck to your DH on his job search. I hope you get some kind of good resolution after meeting with a lawyer.
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 4, 2016 20:25:09 GMT
Well shit. I hope the labor board gets back to you asap and that he finds a new job.
This company sounds like a nightmare
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Post by woodysbetty on Aug 4, 2016 20:27:50 GMT
Wow...that is just ridiculous....good luck!
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Post by pierkiss on Aug 4, 2016 20:29:58 GMT
I hope he finds a new fabulous job soon. What a crock of shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 20:33:24 GMT
Jeez, I'm sorry. I thought this kind of crap only happened to DH and I I hope it's all resolved soon, and that he can find a new job quickly. I'm normally not a fan of lawyering up, but in this case, I'd be seriously considering it.
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Post by lumo on Aug 4, 2016 20:54:42 GMT
Well shit. I hope the labor board gets back to you asap and that he finds a new job. This company sounds like a nightmare And you know, the crazy thing is, they've been GREAT up to this event. I actually worked for them as well for 8 years before I had my daughter. So collectively, we have close to 20 years under our belts with them.
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Post by lumo on Aug 4, 2016 20:55:25 GMT
Jeez, I'm sorry. I thought this kind of crap only happened to DH and I I hope it's all resolved soon, and that he can find a new job quickly. I'm normally not a fan of lawyering up, but in this case, I'd be seriously considering it. Believe me, it's in the forefront of our minds.
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Post by aleighl55 on Aug 4, 2016 21:11:31 GMT
I am a payroll coordinator in TX but I do process for several different states so I looked into NC's laws. Before an employer can deduct from an employee's check, they must get prior approval and they cannot bring his wages below minimum wage for the first 40 hours worked. Your husband's payroll department may need a refresher course in the laws of your state. I had a mass error in our payroll system where every employee was paid the earnings equivalent of 1 extra hour and my timekeeper had reported hours incorrectly for our 2 employees in California. I wrote to each of the employees how they were overpaid and asked for them to get with me on a schedule of repayment of a few hundred dollars. Under California law, I cannot deduct without the employee's approval and one such problem employee refused to give approval to do so. He was soon terminated but he got to keep several hundred dollars that he never earned and there was nothing I could do about it. Unethical? Yes. Illegal? No. Here's your labor law on wage overpayment. www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/deductions.htm
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Post by 2peafaithful on Aug 4, 2016 21:24:21 GMT
I am so very sorry. What a nightmare.
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 4, 2016 22:42:42 GMT
What a terrible update. That is absolutely horrible. I hope the problem is resolved ASAP.
I think looking for a new job is wise. I wouldn't feel confident that they wouldn't screw up again. I get that mistakes happen but it's been one after another. You're very fortunate that you didn't bounce any automatic payments.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Aug 5, 2016 0:02:47 GMT
How infuriating. Good luck with the resolution.
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Post by lumo on Aug 5, 2016 0:12:53 GMT
I am a payroll coordinator in TX but I do process for several different states so I looked into NC's laws. Before an employer can deduct from an employee's check, they must get prior approval and they cannot bring his wages below minimum wage for the first 40 hours worked. Your husband's payroll department may need a refresher course in the laws of your state. I had a mass error in our payroll system where every employee was paid the earnings equivalent of 1 extra hour and my timekeeper had reported hours incorrectly for our 2 employees in California. I wrote to each of the employees how they were overpaid and asked for them to get with me on a schedule of repayment of a few hundred dollars. Under California law, I cannot deduct without the employee's approval and one such problem employee refused to give approval to do so. He was soon terminated but he got to keep several hundred dollars that he never earned and there was nothing I could do about it. Unethical? Yes. Illegal? No. Here's your labor law on wage overpayment. www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/deductions.htmThank you, thank you so much for this information! I've sent the link to my DH, and we'll both be reading it over.
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Post by kellybelly77 on Aug 5, 2016 0:33:46 GMT
Geez! Unfortunately we have screwed up insurance deductions before and when we realize it we call the employee, explain the situation and then ask to split the premiums over multiple paychecks. I'm sorry they are being such assholes. I'd be super pissed!
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Post by lumo on Aug 5, 2016 2:49:38 GMT
I am a payroll coordinator in TX but I do process for several different states so I looked into NC's laws. Before an employer can deduct from an employee's check, they must get prior approval and they cannot bring his wages below minimum wage for the first 40 hours worked. Your husband's payroll department may need a refresher course in the laws of your state. I had a mass error in our payroll system where every employee was paid the earnings equivalent of 1 extra hour and my timekeeper had reported hours incorrectly for our 2 employees in California. I wrote to each of the employees how they were overpaid and asked for them to get with me on a schedule of repayment of a few hundred dollars. Under California law, I cannot deduct without the employee's approval and one such problem employee refused to give approval to do so. He was soon terminated but he got to keep several hundred dollars that he never earned and there was nothing I could do about it. Unethical? Yes. Illegal? No. Here's your labor law on wage overpayment. www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/deductions.htmQuestion for you: we were reading over the page you linked, and it says this: Also, when an employer adjusts an employee's wages for unpaid loans or wage advances from the employer or for unpaid employee charges to a company account for personal items, there is no employer requirement to obtain an employee's written authorization as this is not a deduction from pay issue. Rather such amounts are considered to be prepayment of wages and not deductions from wages for the amount of the unpaid loan (principle amount only) or wage advance.Would the situation we're in be considered "wage advancement?" It's not as if DH asked for an for an advance on his paycheck (or for any of this at all)...but it reads any wages paid ahead of time would count. Of course, now he's hedging on calling the labor board back because he's concerned they'll fire him. I'm so mad about everything right now I could scream.
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Post by yivit on Aug 5, 2016 3:17:30 GMT
I am a payroll coordinator in TX but I do process for several different states so I looked into NC's laws. Before an employer can deduct from an employee's check, they must get prior approval and they cannot bring his wages below minimum wage for the first 40 hours worked. Your husband's payroll department may need a refresher course in the laws of your state. I had a mass error in our payroll system where every employee was paid the earnings equivalent of 1 extra hour and my timekeeper had reported hours incorrectly for our 2 employees in California. I wrote to each of the employees how they were overpaid and asked for them to get with me on a schedule of repayment of a few hundred dollars. Under California law, I cannot deduct without the employee's approval and one such problem employee refused to give approval to do so. He was soon terminated but he got to keep several hundred dollars that he never earned and there was nothing I could do about it. Unethical? Yes. Illegal? No. Here's your labor law on wage overpayment. www.nclabor.com/wh/fact%20sheets/deductions.htmQuestion for you: we were reading over the page you linked, and it says this: Also, when an employer adjusts an employee's wages for unpaid loans or wage advances from the employer or for unpaid employee charges to a company account for personal items, there is no employer requirement to obtain an employee's written authorization as this is not a deduction from pay issue. Rather such amounts are considered to be prepayment of wages and not deductions from wages for the amount of the unpaid loan (principle amount only) or wage advance.Would the situation we're in be considered "wage advancement?" It's not as if DH asked for an for an advance on his paycheck (or for any of this at all)...but it reads any wages paid ahead of time would count. Of course, now he's hedging on calling the labor board back because he's concerned they'll fire him. I'm so mad about everything right now I could scream. Not a payroll person, but my take would be NO. Your DH didn't request an advance or a loan, and there would have had to have been documentation for one anyway.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Aug 5, 2016 3:22:42 GMT
If they fire him for contacting the Labor Board, he's going to have a hella case of retaliation that is much riskier than a DOL (Dept of Labor) issue. He should not only notify the labor board, he should put it in writing that he has done so by sending an email to the payroll people and his HR VP so that there is a formal record that he has taken that step to seek resolution. Then, they are on notice and will be looking at a clear retaliation case if they attempt to end his employment.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 5, 2016 4:16:16 GMT
Forgive me for saying so, but WHY is your DH still continuing to communicate with his supervisor as the go between? Supervisor is clearly not competent to handle this and I question anything that is said or done by this person.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 5, 2016 4:24:22 GMT
Well shit. I hope the labor board gets back to you asap and that he finds a new job. This company sounds like a nightmare And you know, the crazy thing is, they've been GREAT up to this event. I actually worked for them as well for 8 years before I had my daughter. So collectively, we have close to 20 years under our belts with them. Since you have worked for them before, at this point I would be tempted to - if your DH won't call payroll himself, I would call them. This is ridiculous and the waiting to see what his supervisor says - without being there for the conversation, god knows what is going on - payroll may be thinking DH is to blame when it's the supervisor or even payroll at this point. But I would have your DH at this point call payroll, followup with email to confirm all the information that has gone on this far, and expect an answer. I can't imagine what would prevent them from not explaining what is going on - and I really hate to say this, but I suspect your DH supervisor is to blame for 99% of this - and is trying to backpedal at this point. I can't imagine a large company doing this just for the hell of it. It's just so bizarre. They deserve an explanation.
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Post by lumo on Aug 5, 2016 14:43:56 GMT
Btt for latest bullshit
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Post by freebird on Aug 5, 2016 14:45:43 GMT
This sounds like the dumbest company EVER. I'll put my money that they have someone in accounting that's new and has no clue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 15:14:03 GMT
OMG, my head would be exploding. I think at this point in the fuckery, an attorney is a must. Gads.
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Post by lumo on Aug 5, 2016 15:24:07 GMT
This sounds like the dumbest company EVER. I'll put my money that they have someone in accounting that's new and has no clue. The irony is that this is FINANCIAL COMPANY that he works for. #funnynotfunny
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Post by freebird on Aug 5, 2016 15:37:10 GMT
This sounds like the dumbest company EVER. I'll put my money that they have someone in accounting that's new and has no clue. The irony is that this is FINANCIAL COMPANY that he works for. #funnynotfunny That's screwed up.
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Post by scrappert on Aug 5, 2016 15:39:01 GMT
I just can't even believe this is going on. SMH
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Post by Really Red on Aug 5, 2016 15:49:13 GMT
Holy Unbelievable Crap!
I would get the president of the company involved TODAY. How on earth are you supposed to figure this all out? What morons!!!
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 5, 2016 15:55:13 GMT
Holy cow. That is absolutely ridiculous.
I'd hate to see how badly they could screw up end of the year tax forms.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 16:13:33 GMT
You know, I'd consider asking them to pay for an outside tax preparer to check out your end of year tax forms.
That is ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 16:31:31 GMT
I think he/you need to go to the highest level you can at the company to get their attention. State that your next call is going to be the state wage claim board (labor board or whatever NC calls it). This is absolutely ridiculous and I would solidly put the blame on his supervisor and/or payroll.
If you make a wage claim and they retaliate, they can be sued for that. Personally I would put them on notice if you/he end up making a wage claim.
I honestly can not believe that Payroll isn't working directly with him to figure this out (and just bringing in the supervisor to sign off on it).
I do have to ask how it is possible to pay 20 hours OT with no regular wages? If nothing else there should be a reconciliation!
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Post by sunnyd on Aug 5, 2016 16:35:24 GMT
So now did they over pay him again? What a mess? If so, I would not say another word & move on & hope to hell that his next paycheck is correct.
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Post by basketdiva on Aug 5, 2016 17:15:36 GMT
I would be calling or emailing anybody and everybody in the company until I got an answer. I hope you have filed a complaint with the labor board. I would seriously consider getting a lawyer who specializes in labor issues right now.
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