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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:21:34 GMT
UPDATE: Because the Pea's love the updates, here is a small update...
Employee A (the manager) has resigned, came back yesterday morning and gave us his resignation
Employee C (the supervisor) is being disciplined, due to other facts found in the investigation
Employee B - was given cash by Employee A to "terminate" the pregnancy. Employee B may or may not be moving forward with that - that is a personal decision, and we are no longer involved in that conversation.
HR is not done with full investigation, still concerned with potential future legal issues resulting in this hot mess.
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Ok, follow along with me....
Employee A (a married male) has a relationship with Employee B (single Mom female). No one at work knows.
Employee A works in position of leadership and should know better.
Employee A and Employee B are planning on moving in together - Employee A allegedly states he is leaving wife.
Employee A and Employee B go on a "church retreat" vacation for one week - they each bring their kids. (again, no one at work knows - simple coincidence both are on vacation at the same time, they work in different departments)
Employee A and Employee B return from vacation - Employee B says when asked, "worst vacation ever, never again".
HR Leadership is informed today that there is a big ol mess about to happen.
Apparently right before the "vacation", Employee B finds out that Employee A is having a relationship with Employee C (a single Mom who is a Supervisor in company). Makes sense now why Employee B thinks her vacation sucked, finding this out right before they left.
Now today, in addition to that hot mess - Employee B is 8 weeks pregnant!
Who would like to come be HR for a few months and take me away from this mess?!
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2016 22:23:23 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work?
Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:24:26 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work? Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well. Yes, for management. |
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Post by disneypal on Jul 27, 2016 22:25:11 GMT
Holy smokes - what a mess. Sounds like big trouble is brewing, especially now that she is pregnant. He sounds like a scumbag (married and seeing 2 other women at work!)  Save |
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Post by quinlove on Jul 27, 2016 22:27:12 GMT
Sorry you have to deal with this, but -  |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2016 22:28:33 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work? Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well. Yes, for management. So employee A (I called him Joe in my head) gets fired. employee B (I called her Sara (no h because H's are EW) is not going to be getting good child support from a guy with no job. Did employee C (Emily) know about B? What you need now is the wife to show up because she just found out about the affairs and have her confront them all on your property  |
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jul 27, 2016 22:28:49 GMT
This is wild! You write very clearly trying to express a difficult situation.
This is a nightmare.
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Post by Loydene on Jul 27, 2016 22:29:28 GMT
Seems to me you can fire Employee A and pretty much solve your problems.  |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:30:23 GMT
Sorry you have to deal with this, but - Darn right - if I didn't have to deal with this, I'd have the biggest bucket of popcorn at my desk! |
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Post by Mystie on Jul 27, 2016 22:31:08 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work? Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well. I do, too, but I sure feel bad for that fetus who will be saddled with cretinous parents for life.  Save |
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Post by myshelly on Jul 27, 2016 22:31:14 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work? Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well. I think that's a really mysogonystic view. The woman in the situation, who is not breaking any vows and had no responsibility to the man's wife, is the one who needs "sweet justice". |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:32:11 GMT
So - yes, Employee B (the first one to have the affair) found out and confronted both Employee B (the scum male) and Employee C right before the vacation.
I do not know if Employee C knows about the baby yet - but Employee A does and allegedly is encouraging Employee B to "get rid of it", the fine outstanding guy that he is. You know, get rid of the evidence thought process.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jul 27, 2016 22:33:04 GMT
OMG- it's over a decade into the 21st century!
Take charge of your fertility, women!
There are multiple means of effective birth control. If your man is still married, make sure you don't get pregnant.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:33:26 GMT
Seems to me you can fire Employee A and pretty much solve your problems. Yes, maybe - but both women would still be working here and one is pregnant. Not sure that will totally rid of us potential problems in the future. |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:33:51 GMT
OMG- it's over a decade into the 21st century! Take charge of your fertility, women! There are multiple means of effective birth control. If your man is still married, make sure you don't get pregnant. Right? |
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Post by redrulz on Jul 27, 2016 22:34:01 GMT
So when you say this... Employee A works in position of leadership and should know better. ....does a leadership role also mean they are in management? And is Employee C going to be fired? Yikes! The whole situation sounds like a huge mess and I hope the wife *doesn't* show up and raise hell! Domestic situations can turn UGLY! |
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Post by quinlove on Jul 27, 2016 22:34:38 GMT
Sorry you have to deal with this, but - Darn right - if I didn't have to deal with this, I'd have the biggest bucket of popcorn at my desk! I was hoping you would not think I was making light of your situation. I've never used this emoji before and was quite excited to do so. But, keep us posted. 😊 |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:35:19 GMT
So when you say this... Employee A works in position of leadership and should know better. ....does a leadership role also mean they are in management? And is Employee C going to be fired? Yikes! The whole situation sounds like a huge mess and I hope the wife *doesn't* show up and raise hell! Domestic situations can turn UGLY! We are still investigating the situation. Employee A is off work until Monday so nothing can be done until then (at minimum). |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:36:09 GMT
Darn right - if I didn't have to deal with this, I'd have the biggest bucket of popcorn at my desk! I was hoping you would not think I was making light of your situation. I've never used this emoji before and was quite excited to do so. But, keep us posted. 😊 Heck - even with my many years in HR, this one is more than "popcorn" worthy! |
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Post by peanuttle on Jul 27, 2016 22:36:38 GMT
Ha, that's a good one, sorry. I am in HR too and have been saying for years, we should write a book! Good stuff!
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Post by blue tulip on Jul 27, 2016 22:36:58 GMT
ETA I had your post open and left the computer before responding, I didn't see that he (and C?) were violating rules. disregard my post. 
ugh. tell me, how does this become an HR issue? it's a shitty thing for employee A to be doing, but is he violating any rules if A and C are not under his supervision? or did it come out to you because one of these people wants you to do something about it? or are complaining to you? i'm genuinely curious, because stuff like this happens in our company and you just deal with it and move on, HR isn't involved unless it violates a company rule. |
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 27, 2016 22:39:50 GMT
I am astounded that they took their kids on a vacation together.  It also always astounds me when someone has an affair with a married person and is shocked when said person then cheats on them.  |
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2016 22:39:58 GMT
OMG- it's over a decade into the 21st century! Take charge of your fertility, women! There are multiple means of effective birth control. If your man is still married, make sure you don't get pregnant. I've know of women who get pregnant to "force" the married man to finally leave his wife. Sometimes it works, often it backfires |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:41:31 GMT
ugh. tell me, how does this become an HR issue? it's a shitty thing for employee A to be doing, but is he violating any rules if A and C are not under his supervision? or did it come out to you because one of these people wants you to do something about it? or are complaining to you? i'm genuinely curious, because stuff like this happens in our company and you just deal with it and move on, HR isn't involved unless it violates a company rule. HR gets involved because it has caused a disruption in the workplace already. We are still investigating, but it was reported to HR because of the leadership role 2 of them are in. |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:43:01 GMT
OMG- it's over a decade into the 21st century! Take charge of your fertility, women! There are multiple means of effective birth control. If your man is still married, make sure you don't get pregnant. I've know of women who get pregnant to "force" the married man to finally leave his wife. Sometimes it works, often it backfires Yes, not sure if that is this situation or not. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 27, 2016 22:43:12 GMT
Dude, people suck!
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2016 22:43:30 GMT
Do you have a no fraternization policy at work? Personally, I think it is sweet justice that a woman sleeping with a married man finds out he is cheating on her as well. I think that's a really mysogonystic view. The woman in the situation, who is not breaking any vows and had no responsibility to the man's wife, is the one who needs "sweet justice". of fish, the woman knew he was married. She knew he was a cheater. The assmunch will probably lose his job, his wife, and both women over it. The question is...did C know about woman 2? Either way, everybody at work know who these women are now. |
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 27, 2016 22:44:26 GMT
Yep - I keep suggesting that people check their ego, their hormones and their bad life choices at the door before they come to work but no one seems to be listening.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 22:44:44 GMT
Seems to me you can fire Employee A and pretty much solve your problems. Yes, maybe - but both women would still be working here and one is pregnant. Not sure that will totally rid of us potential problems in the future. Well, you sure as hell can't fire her for being pregnant. If the man is the only one who broke policy by having relationships with the women, he's the one who should be gone. Period, end of story. I think the women will get over it in due time, now that they are aware of exactly how much of a cheating bastard he really is. ETA: I missed that Employee C is also a supervisor. Is she subject to the no fraternization rule? If so, she gets canned too. Have to be consistent. |
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Post by quiltz on Jul 27, 2016 22:45:11 GMT
Can you have a meeting with employee A?
Let him know that HR is aware that there may be a possibility of friction / disagreement between employees and that the personal stuff is to be dealt with after work, not during work hours. Let him know that since he has a leader, he should act like a leader.
Do the same for C. She is a supervisor and remind her of her work responsibility and again, don't bring personal stuff to work.
The more senior this position is, the more the person is responsible for their actions. Leaders lead by example & if the example is not in line with the Corporate guidelines, then there may be cause for disiplinary action.
Nip it in the bud, if you can.
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