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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 12:38:42 GMT
Trump is an asshole, for sure. I wish I could say that I was surprised at the Clinton supporters in a tizzy over Trump's latest antics, all while failing to see the asshole behavior of Clinton herself.
Trump is the devil incarnate and Hillary is a Saint.
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Post by jackie on Sept 25, 2016 12:40:43 GMT
The statement "half of Trump supporters" does not equal "half of the American people," by any math except hyperbolic fantasy made-up math. Yes! Just as is the claim made by many, that anyone who believes that wanting immigrants to follow the laws and wanting to tighten up the vetting process of refugees before we let the threat of ISIS into our country is racist. Seriously? This is your true response? You know you're saying something that is false but you choose to say it anyway because you feel that other people say false things or exaggerate? I would honestly be embarrassed if that was my rationale. As far as Trump goes, inviting Gennifer (or however you spell her name) is a low class cheap trick. It's something you would expect of a reality TV star though, not a presidential candidate. And that's what we have folks, a shock jock, a reality TV guy. I shake my head every time new evidence of it rears its ugly head. And it comes from a guy who is a cheater himself, a disrespecter of women, and someone who until fairly recently greatly admired Bill Clinton, both the Clintons actually, and frequently was effusive with his feelings for them.
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Post by shescrafty on Sept 25, 2016 12:52:44 GMT
I doubt that HRC gives a flying fig about who Trump invites. She has been raked over the coals for her relationship with her own husband for literally decades. Unlike Trump, she knows how to carry herself in a presidential manner.
If comments above are true and Trump starts bringing up Bill Clinton's affairs to counteract his own treatment of women it only goes to show how truly misogynistic he is.
Can you imagine if Hillary had been married multiple times and had kids with 3 different fathers? The names she would be called?
Nothing really surprises me about this campaign anymore. I don't know if I can sit through the debates watching Trump- who has only his own interests at heart (and those of Putin of course) yell and exaggerate false claims.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Sept 25, 2016 13:09:54 GMT
From an article in The USA Today app: That's not an invite. It's just him retaliating with Cuban's remarks. And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. Save
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 25, 2016 13:14:32 GMT
JFC. What is it about Hillary Clinton that makes conservatives (and some liberals) hold her to some ridiculous standard they don't expect other women to meet? Would you talk this way about a friend or family member who chose to stay with a cheating spouse and make it work? For whatever personal reasons matter to her? And what makes you think you have a right to claim she stayed with him because of ambition, not love? You are blinded by irrational hatred. I have no problem with her decision to stay with him. But 100% of the humiliation rained down on Hillary Clinton is Bill's fault. Over and over again. I won't disagree burning feather--that Bill is the original source of the humiliation HOWEVER for Trump to seat Gennuder front and center for the sole purpose of humiliation and to try to distract Hillary from debating, just goes to show what a despicable asshole Trump is. He's dangerous and he has degraded women more than once for the sole purpose to elevating himself. If this woman was anyone other than Hillary, all the peas would be screaming what s fucktard he is.
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Post by happymomma on Sept 25, 2016 13:24:25 GMT
Remember, I'm still learning, so... Is Gennifer Flowers on the list of the "Bimbo Eruptions"? I don't have a problem with HRC standing by her man, but trashing the women his scandals involved was 'deplorable'. My opinion only.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 13:38:18 GMT
Remember, I'm still learning, so... Is Gennifer Flowers on the list of the "Bimbo Eruptions"? I don't have a problem with HRC standing by her man, but trashing the women his scandals involved was 'deplorable'. My opinion only. Yes. She had a long-term affair (12 years?) with Bill Clinton. The length of the affair, no doubt, is why she would be considered to be the one of his many mistresses to possibly cause the most upset. {I provide this information merely to give the background, lest someone wants to quote me and try to pea-argue with me that I might be supporting Trump. I support neither Trump nor Clinton.}Save
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Post by lindas on Sept 25, 2016 14:03:11 GMT
She humiliated herself when she stayed married to that sleaze to further her own political ambitions. JFC. What is it about Hillary Clinton that makes conservatives (and some liberals) hold her to some ridiculous standard they don't expect other women to meet? Would you talk this way about a friend or family member who chose to stay with a cheating spouse and make it work? For whatever personal reasons matter to her? And what makes you think you have a right to claim she stayed with him because of ambition, not love? You are blinded by irrational hatred. What is about Hillary Clinton that makes liberals overlook standards that they expect other women to meet? How many times on this board has a woman cried about a cheating spouse and she's been told to leave him, that she's strong and can make it on her own. I never see anyone encouraging her to try to work it out. Bill didn't cheat once, he cheated multiple times. Let's face it, Bill needed her support to get re-elected after the scandal broke. She shored up the female vote for him by standing by his side. In turn she needed his charismatic personalitily to offset her lack of one. I dont like like the Clintons, I won't deny that but I don't hate them. In a way I feel sorry for both of them. They're need for power is so strong they're both willing to put up with anything to get it. As for my right, I have the right to state my opinion, you have the right to disagree with it and that's fine with me.
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Post by tincin on Sept 25, 2016 14:24:20 GMT
Now that Trump has opened this can of worms I predict that we will be hearing a lot over the next few weeks about his extramarital activities. This might be fun. As long as we only discuss those of the people who are actually candidate because there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump has had more affairs than HRC has had.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Sept 25, 2016 14:35:26 GMT
As long as we only discuss those of the people who are actually candidate because there is not a doubt in my mind that Trump has had more affairs than HRC has had. Heh. Now we're making some mathematical sense. Kind of like simplifying fractions.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 25, 2016 14:42:44 GMT
Does it matter? I can't imagine that her presence would bother Hillary in the least. It is telling about Trump, though.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 25, 2016 14:45:30 GMT
Well, my interpretation of the OP is that it was not nice of Trump to invite a guest who Hillary probably wouldn't like to see in the front row. But Trump doesn't like Cuban, and if Hillary's campaign invited Cuban to dig at Trump, I'm not going to sit here and be surprised or outraged that the Trump campaign responded in kind. You may have a point if Hillary had sex with Mark Cuban. But I don't believe that is the case. All Trump is doing is creating distractions. I gues he doesn't trust his debating skills or his position on the issues. As for Ms Flowers when is she going to stop letting men use her because that is exactly what Trump is doing. Only if Melania slept with Mark Cuban.
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Post by lovetodigi on Sept 25, 2016 14:48:18 GMT
Bet ya $5 that if Gennifer Flowers IS there that Trump will find a way to mention her in at least one of his remarks. No doubt. He is going to turn what already is traditionally a little bit of a circus into a full three-ring disaster show of bullshit. He'll be going for sound bites and personal attacks. He's in WAY over his head now and the only way he knows how to fight is with crap like this. Complete and utter scum. SaveSaveTrump is far more suited for the Jerry Springer Show than he is to be President of anything, especially POTUS!
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Post by Dalai Mama on Sept 25, 2016 14:57:01 GMT
JFC. What is it about Hillary Clinton that makes conservatives (and some liberals) hold her to some ridiculous standard they don't expect other women to meet? Would you talk this way about a friend or family member who chose to stay with a cheating spouse and make it work? For whatever personal reasons matter to her? And what makes you think you have a right to claim she stayed with him because of ambition, not love? You are blinded by irrational hatred. What is about Hillary Clinton that makes liberals overlook standards that they expect other women to meet? How many times on this board has a woman cried about a cheating spouse and she's been told to leave him, that she's strong and can make it on her own. I never see anyone encouraging her to try to work it out. Bill didn't cheat once, he cheated multiple times. Let's face it, Bill needed her support to get re-elected after the scandal broke. She shored up the female vote for him by standing by his side. In turn she needed his charismatic personalitily to offset her lack of one. I dont like like the Clintons, I won't deny that but I don't hate them. In a way I feel sorry for both of them. They're need for power is so strong they're both willing to put up with anything to get it. As for my right, I have the right to state my opinion, you have the right to disagree with it and that's fine with me. Leaving a cheating spouse is not an expected liberal standard. Yes, I would encourage any woman who has been cheated on to leave their husband. But, choosing to ignore that advice, for whatever reason, doesn't constitute a failure. You may not be aware, but there are a number of women on this board who have chosen to do just that. I'm not going to be the one looking down on them for that. You know what is a (misogynistic) double standard, though? Deriding a woman for choosing to staying with a serial cheater, holding her to a higher standard than a man who himself is a confirmed serial cheater.
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Post by jackie on Sept 25, 2016 15:05:27 GMT
I can assure you my standards are the same. I would never tell a woman to leaver her husband when he's unfaithful and am honestly annoyed when other women do. Everyone can be such a hard-nosed hardass when it comes to looking at someone's marriage from the outside. But it's an extremely personal decision. No one knows what goes on inside another person's marriage and I wouldn't presume to know that either. I give support and sympathy but never tell them they should or shouldn't leave. You shouldn't assume you know about their marriage either, because you truly don't.
I don't think I could stay with a serial cheater, regardless of whatever else is going on, but I don't think it's my business if someone else does.
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Post by carhoch on Sept 25, 2016 15:41:54 GMT
Trump is far more suited for the Jerry Springer Show than he is to be President of anything, especially POTUS!
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Post by trollie on Sept 25, 2016 15:47:14 GMT
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Post by jayfab on Sept 25, 2016 16:10:58 GMT
No kidding. This is NOT someone I would want as President for my daughters.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Sept 25, 2016 16:17:09 GMT
Kellyanne Conway has set things right. She lets him have his phone for one minute and all hell breaks loose!
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Post by M~ on Sept 25, 2016 16:27:51 GMT
How is ANYONE other than Bill Clinton responsible for humiliating Hillary Clinton via Gennifer Flowers? She humiliated herself when she stayed married to that sleaze to further her own political ambitions. I hope you're never cheated on. If you are, I hope you measure yourself with the same stick you're now using.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 25, 2016 16:40:22 GMT
Yes! Just as is the claim made by many, that anyone who believes that wanting immigrants to follow the laws and wanting to tighten up the vetting process of refugees before we let the threat of ISIS into our country is racist. Seriously? This is your true response? You know you're saying something that is false but you choose to say it anyway because you feel that other people say false things or exaggerate? I would honestly be embarrassed if that was my rationale. As far as Trump goes, inviting Gennifer (or however you spell her name) is a low class cheap trick. It's something you would expect of a reality TV star though, not a presidential candidate. And that's what we have folks, a shock jock, a reality TV guy. I shake my head every time new evidence of it rears its ugly head. And it comes from a guy who is a cheater himself, a disrespecter of women, and someone who until fairly recently greatly admired Bill Clinton, both the Clintons actually, and frequently was effusive with his feelings for them. Once again I ❤️ Jackie!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 16:44:14 GMT
And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over?
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Post by SwissArmyBeth on Sept 25, 2016 16:52:42 GMT
And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over? They took the bait...
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 25, 2016 16:59:26 GMT
And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over? Losing our minds? Nah. Just acknowledging that Trump has proven himself once again that he's completely unqualified, unprofessional, and unimaginable as our next president. HE brought this on, with his ridiculous tweeting and immaturity. SaveSave
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Sept 25, 2016 17:00:29 GMT
And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over? How did sweetpeasmom predict this on June 27, 2014. That is awesome power! Who is going to win? Flowers accepted an invitation via Twitter, so it's hard to imagine that she wasn't actually invited. I suspect Kellyanne disinvited her.
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 25, 2016 17:02:12 GMT
So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over? They took the bait... This "bait" you speak of.... So interesting. What would be the purpose of said "bait?" Would it be to prove, once again, to the media, to the public, that Donald Trump is an impulsive, unprofessional overgrown child? Because the Clinton camp responded with this: ""Hillary Clinton plans on using the debate to discuss the issues that make a difference in people's lives. It's not surprising that Donald Trump has chosen a different path," Jennifer Palmieri, the campaign's communications director, said in a statement." So, HRC plans to discuss issues, while Trump plans to... I don't know... pretend like he's on Maury Povich? Noted. SaveSave
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Post by SwissArmyBeth on Sept 25, 2016 17:11:24 GMT
<---- Not a Trump supporter, for the record.
The bait is that the man will say anything- whether true or not- and he gets press and an uptick in the polls. I don't understand it, but it's what happens every time he opens his mouth (or tweets). Maybe, just maybe the HRC supporters could rise above it and stick to the issues, like she is trying to do. Cause giving attention to his every asinine comment clearly isn't working.
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Sept 25, 2016 17:18:55 GMT
Cause giving attention to his every asinine comment clearly isn't working. How could we give attention to EVERY asinine comment when there are so many?!?
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Sept 25, 2016 17:38:00 GMT
And the campaign has released a statement that they don't have any special guests coming, including Gennifer, but they are happy to have her vote. So there wasn't an invitation. And she's not coming? So what are people losing their collective minds over? Because Cuban tweets he's going to sit on the front row and watch Hilary overwhelm Trump. He replies with perhaps he'll sit Gennifer there. She then responds with her support and she'd be at the debate. None of that read to me that Trump was extending an invite. Save
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Post by inkedup on Sept 25, 2016 17:45:46 GMT
How is ANYONE other than Bill Clinton responsible for humiliating Hillary Clinton via Gennifer Flowers? She humiliated herself when she stayed married to that sleaze to further her own political ambitions. My best friend's husband cheated on her. More than once. They separated. Their long marriage completely imploded and so did the rest of their life. They lost their home, their business...but somehow, they found themselves closer than they'd been in a long time. They worked on their marriage and moved back in together about a year after they separated. They're still together and are happy. I don't believe my friend humiliated herself. Forgiveness takes a great deal of strength.
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