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Post by elaine on Oct 3, 2016 20:29:22 GMT
Trump: Military suicides happen to servicemembers who 'can't handle it' link to CNN story quoted belowThe thought of this man as Commander in Chief turns my stomach. My retired Navy husband who has worked with vets with ptsd while he was still active duty forwarded this story to me. |
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Post by refugeepea on Oct 3, 2016 20:35:04 GMT
He is the biggest piece of shit! He is either the biggest narcissist in the world or is trying his best to NOT get elected. I'm going with narcissist.  My BIL suffers everyday from PTSD. After serving in Iraq and Afghanistan he can no longer use his college degree. Instead he has taken a lower paying job because of the management position and more responsibilities he would have to take. |
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Post by lovetodigi on Oct 3, 2016 20:35:34 GMT
He is such a disgusting piece of work. I hope that, once this election is over, he has lost and we never ever have to see his face or hear his voice again. He needs to crawl back in that hole that he crawled out of and take some of the disgusting jerks that are part of his campaign, with him. He does not care about veterans, he does not care about poor people, he does not care about women... All he cares about is Trump. Anything he does and anything that he says is just a means to get what Trump wants, He is lying to everyone and walking all over them to get to what he wants.
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Post by secondlife on Oct 3, 2016 20:45:49 GMT
"Some of them are good people, I'm sure..."
It just doesn't change with this guy.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 3, 2016 20:49:01 GMT
Well, who would know that better than Donald Trump? After all he has vastly more combat experience than anyone else on the planet!  |
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Post by mellyw on Oct 3, 2016 21:10:51 GMT
He's a dim-witted fuckhead. Pretty sure that's going to be my standard response for the next 5 weeks.
What he says about those captured in combat (John McCain), or those suffering from PTSD, screams his disdain for portions of our military veterans.
His double speak is so very troubling. And leaves me perplexed on how anyone can believe this chump is a Repulican. Or at this point, a sentient being.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 3, 2016 21:12:42 GMT
So what context should we take the comment? As the parent of a kid in uniform (albeit National Guard who is somewhat isolated from combat unless his unit is called up) I am concerned that he will not use the US Military wisely. After listening to a lot of what he has said, I feel as though he says what each audience wants to hear, but what he really believes comes out in comments like this. I don't feel as though he respects the military very much.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:14:14 GMT
So we can expect his surrogates and his advisers to follow up and explain what he means to other world leaders every time he opens his mouth if he's elected....that should be fun...not!
Is there anyone left out there that he hasn't insulted yet ? Maybe it's time to send him to a combat zone and prove how " strong" he would be when he returned.
I'm running out of adjectives that are appropriate to print to describe this vile man.
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Post by secondlife on Oct 3, 2016 21:15:03 GMT
So what context should we take the comment? As the parent of a kid in uniform (albeit National Guard who is somewhat isolated from combat unless his unit is called up) I am concerned that he will not use the US Military wisely. After listening to a lot of what he has said, I feel as though he says what each audience wants to hear, but what he really believes comes out in comments like this. I don't feel as though he respects the military very much. Don't forget - he doesn't think POWs are heroes - he likes the ones who weren't captured. |
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Post by myboysnme on Oct 3, 2016 21:18:06 GMT
I despise Donald Trump as a possible US President. I work in VA hospital. but in this case I don't think he meant it how it came out. It was probably written in a coherent way but he puts his twist on it and it gets twisted. It sounded to me that he was saying some veterans have been exposed to things that we can't imagine and they can't handle it and don't know how to gt help, can't get help, or help is ineffective.
I think that is what he meant.
However he's said so many other egregious things that we've all just been trained to expect the absolute worst from him.
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Post by Merge on Oct 3, 2016 21:19:53 GMT
I'm getting the strong feeling this week that Trump has decided he doesn't want to be president after all, and is doing everything possible to blow up his own campaign.
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Post by trollie on Oct 3, 2016 21:27:04 GMT
I'm getting the strong feeling this week that Trump has decided he doesn't want to be president after all, and is doing everything possible to blow up his own campaign. From your lips (or finger tips) to God's ears! |
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Post by papersilly on Oct 3, 2016 21:32:19 GMT
words of wisdom from a draft dodger
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Post by hop2 on Oct 3, 2016 21:40:52 GMT
He's a dim-witted fuckhead. Pretty sure that's going to be my standard response for the next 5 weeks. What he says about those captured in combat (John McCain), or those suffering from PTSD, screams his disdain for portions of our military veterans. His double speak is so very troubling. And leaves me perplexed on how anyone can believe this chump is a Repulican. Or at this point, a sentient being. Portions? |
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 3, 2016 21:44:30 GMT
Oh for fuck's sake. Is there any topic that he doesn't have a completely reprehensible opinion on?
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Post by hop2 on Oct 3, 2016 21:44:32 GMT
I despise Donald Trump as a possible US President. I work in VA hospital. but in this case I don't think he meant it how it came out. It was probably written in a coherent way but he puts his twist on it and it gets twisted. It sounded to me that he was saying some veterans have been exposed to things that we can't imagine and they can't handle it and don't know how to gt help, can't get help, or help is ineffective. I think that is what he meant. However he's said so many other egregious things that we've all just been trained to expect the absolute worst from him. Ya know, I'd love to give him the benefit of doubt. But considering his other statements about military veterans, active military and gold star families I can't. I gotta take it how he said it. I can't make believe he supports our military in any way. ( not that the other candidate does either ) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:50:23 GMT
I despise Donald Trump as a possible US President. I work in VA hospital. but in this case I don't think he meant it how it came out. It was probably written in a coherent way but he puts his twist on it and it gets twisted. It sounded to me that he was saying some veterans have been exposed to things that we can't imagine and they can't handle it and don't know how to gt help, can't get help, or help is ineffective. I think that is what he meant. However he's said so many other egregious things that we've all just been trained to expect the absolute worst from him. This blowhard asshat can't communicate clearly on ANY issue. If he can't go off script and retain any kind of coherence, he's not fit for service. There are about 500 other reasons he's not fit to be president, but the inability to communicate like a literate adult is high on the list. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:54:01 GMT
I'm getting the strong feeling this week that Trump has decided he doesn't want to be president after all, and is doing everything possible to blow up his own campaign. At this point, I really hope that's the case. Because the other side of that coin is beyond frightening. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 21:54:48 GMT
I despise Donald Trump as a possible US President. I work in VA hospital. but in this case I don't think he meant it how it came out. It was probably written in a coherent way but he puts his twist on it and it gets twisted. It sounded to me that he was saying some veterans have been exposed to things that we can't imagine and they can't handle it and don't know how to gt help, can't get help, or help is ineffective. I think that is what he meant. However he's said so many other egregious things that we've all just been trained to expect the absolute worst from him. This blowhard asshat can't communicate clearly on ANY issue. If he can't go off script and retain any kind of coherence, he's not fit for service. There are about 500 other reasons he's not fit to be president, but the inability to communicate like a literate adult is high on the list. So true |
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 3, 2016 21:59:23 GMT
I'm getting the strong feeling this week that Trump has decided he doesn't want to be president after all, and is doing everything possible to blow up his own campaign. I would dearly love to know you are right! I just worked my way through this thread liking posts since you all said everything I would have said. Except maybe for the one person who said we were twisting his words. Nah...I don't believe that. He is a vile human being and has no respect for anyone except himself. We know what he thinks about those who "allowed" themselves to get captured in war, so I'm not inclined to think he's changing. In this case he said to his audience "you're strong" because those people didn't have mental health issues. But some people can't deal with it so if the ones who can are "strong" then what does that make the ones who can't? Must be weak.  SaveSave |
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 3, 2016 22:01:40 GMT
I despise Donald Trump as a possible US President. I work in VA hospital. but in this case I don't think he meant it how it came out. It was probably written in a coherent way but he puts his twist on it and it gets twisted. It sounded to me that he was saying some veterans have been exposed to things that we can't imagine and they can't handle it and don't know how to gt help, can't get help, or help is ineffective. I think that is what he meant. However he's said so many other egregious things that we've all just been trained to expect the absolute worst from him. You know, when I first read the comment, I *did* try to give him the benefit of the doubt. I thought maybe he was inartfully trying to say that there are those who could not deal with the awfulness of PSD and tragically choose to end their lives. But then, with the totality of the off the cuff comments-not the more or less scripted speeches-but the comments he makes when he isn't reading from a teleprompter makes me believe differently. It is in his less guarded moments that he makes these types of seemingly disparaging comments that make me feel as though that is what he really thinks . I don't feel that he would be a Commander in Chief that would use my son, and all the sons and daughters, husbands and wives, fathers and mothers in a prudent way. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 22:08:29 GMT
I'm getting the strong feeling this week that Trump has decided he doesn't want to be president after all, and is doing everything possible to blow up his own campaign. I would dearly love to know you are right! I just worked my way through this thread liking posts since you all said everything I would have said. Except maybe for the one person who said we were twisting his words. Nah...I don't believe that. He is a vile human being and has no respect for anyone except himself. We know what he thinks about those who "allowed" themselves to get captured in war, so I'm not inclined to think he's changing. In this case he said to his audience "you're strong" because those people didn't have mental health issues. But some people can't deal with it so if the ones who can are "strong" then what does that make the ones who can't? Must be weak. SaveSaveNormal? |
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 3, 2016 22:34:00 GMT
I would dearly love to know you are right! I just worked my way through this thread liking posts since you all said everything I would have said. Except maybe for the one person who said we were twisting his words. Nah...I don't believe that. He is a vile human being and has no respect for anyone except himself. We know what he thinks about those who "allowed" themselves to get captured in war, so I'm not inclined to think he's changing. In this case he said to his audience "you're strong" because those people didn't have mental health issues. But some people can't deal with it so if the ones who can are "strong" then what does that make the ones who can't? Must be weak. SaveSaveNormal? But "normal" is not the opposite of "strong". And it's wrong to equate "strength" with NOT having mental health issues after combat. SaveSave |
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Post by flute4peace on Oct 3, 2016 22:39:20 GMT
I would dearly love to know you are right! I just worked my way through this thread liking posts since you all said everything I would have said. Except maybe for the one person who said we were twisting his words. Nah...I don't believe that. He is a vile human being and has no respect for anyone except himself. We know what he thinks about those who "allowed" themselves to get captured in war, so I'm not inclined to think he's changing. In this case he said to his audience "you're strong" because those people didn't have mental health issues. But some people can't deal with it so if the ones who can are "strong" then what does that make the ones who can't? Must be weak. SaveSaveNormal? I could not agree more!!!! I don't have any loved ones in the service, but I assume the things they see and experience are things no human should ever have to see or experience.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 22:47:42 GMT
I'd say unless you live with PTSD, you really might not know what you are talking about. Trump or anyone else.
Our men and women in uniform experience things we will probably never see or even imagine.
And I'm out here. This one hits way too close to home.
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Post by red88 on Oct 3, 2016 23:00:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 23:01:02 GMT
But "normal" is not the opposite of "strong". And it's wrong to equate "strength" with NOT having mental health issues after combat. SaveSaveI'm just saying that he wasn't necessarily saying that the ones that have PTS are weak, just normal. |
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Post by secondlife on Oct 3, 2016 23:03:23 GMT
Because it can't be posted only once. |
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Post by terri on Oct 3, 2016 23:04:04 GMT
Says the 5 time draft dodger. He is a total disgrace.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 3, 2016 23:16:25 GMT
But "normal" is not the opposite of "strong". And it's wrong to equate "strength" with NOT having mental health issues after combat. SaveSaveI'm just saying that he wasn't necessarily saying that the ones that have PTS are weak, just normal. But the biggest problem here is with the stigma of seeking mental health treatment and trying to get help to the people who need it. By saying some are "strong" there is an implied opposite of "weak" and that reinforces that only those who "can't handle it" are some how deficient...and those who need help will not seek out what is available. All of these words 'weak,''strong,' 'normal'...they are all words that lay a value on people and there is no amount of parsing his words that change how they could be interpreted by someone who is already struggling with feeling 'weak' in an 'industry' (for lack of a better discription) where being 'strong' is one of the top virtues and doesn't want any one to know that they are suffering for fear of them being perceived as not living up to the military ethos. |
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