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Post by smalltowngirlie on Oct 8, 2016 12:47:17 GMT
I have heard many times that Clinton has the experience to be President. You are right she has been in politics a long time. So my question is: What has Hillary Clinton done that has improved your life or has made America better? I am not asking what positions she has held, but what bills has she introduced, what has she actually done.
My google searching has not given me specifics for America. I am finding many things she is part of, but not specifics.
TIA for your answers.
Thank you for those that gave me some specifics. In this political season it is very hard to find the positives of a candidate because the negative shows up in searches higher up.
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Post by Merge on Oct 8, 2016 12:55:57 GMT
There are a lot of specifics on her website. Scroll down the page for the most recent stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 13:12:26 GMT
Sponsored bills to support eating disorders Obtainedd federal funding for 9/11 Are two that come to mind...
Oh and paid her taxes!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 13:31:39 GMT
I don't know how I'm going to vote. Every day I'm more disgusted by D.T. So don't say anything mean to me.
But who pays taxes they don't owe?
I lost money in the stock market in the 90's, too. I just took my final deduction for the loss last year. Not paying taxes should not be on his very long list of reasons we don't like him.
I don't know what she's done for America.
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Post by Merge on Oct 8, 2016 14:00:24 GMT
I don't know how I'm going to vote. Every day I'm more disgusted by D.T. So don't say anything mean to me. But who pays taxes they don't owe? I lost money in the stock market in the 90's, too. I just took my final deduction for the loss last year. Not paying taxes should not be on his very long list of reasons we don't like him. I don't know what she's done for America. I'm not going to say anything mean to you, and you're right: no one pays taxes they don't owe. That's never been the issue. There are two issues with Trump's tax problem as I see it. One, that he has regularly disparaged people who are too poor to pay taxes as leeches on society, and that his tax plan includes even more tax breaks for the wealthy. Two, that he apparently sees no problem with a system that allows a middle class worker to pay his "fair share" and a wealthy billionaire to pay nothing. He would have gotten a lot further if he had released his most recent returns, which probably also show that he's paid nothing, and simply said (as Warren Buffett has) that the system that allows him to do this is unfair and needs to be changed, and that he's got his best people working on a tax plan that is fair for all Americans. But instead, he whined that he had done nothing illegal, and made it clear that he thinks this kind of thing is good for America and should continue happening. That doesn't sit well with this middle-class school teacher who pays her fair share every year to keep our country running. The thing is that Trump has spent his life for the betterment of one person: Donald Trump. His whole goal has been to enrich himself and his family, often to the detriment of those around him. Whether you like Hillary Clinton or not, there's no denying that she has spent much of her life in the service of others. Has she also taken opportunities to make money? Of course. But if you look at the record I linked above, the fact is that this woman with her resume could be enjoying a very cushy and wealthy life as a named partner at a swanky law firm somewhere. Heck, she could probably just be enjoying retirement. Instead, she has spent her life working on women's and family issues, championing affordable health care, overcoming the embarrassments her husband heaped on her while in office to rise up and make a political career for herself, and serving as Secretary of State for her political rival instead of relaxing into a comfortable retirement and enjoying the paid speech circuit. Is she Mother Theresa? No. Please don't think I'm naive enough to think she's perfect. But when it became clear to me that Bernie was not happening, and Gary Johnson was not going to be a viable candidate, I started looking more closely into what had been said about her over the years and what was true and not true. I read over the Benghazi timeline very carefully. I read all of what was said about the infamous emails. And I looked at the years and years of public service, most of which were out of the spotlight or in a subordinate position to Bill, and I realized that I could not only support this woman for president but that I could do so gladly. I don't think anyone runs for president in our country without a few skeletons in his/her closet. I can live with her skeletons. I think she has worked and will continue to work for the benefit of this country and its regular people. That's all.
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Post by katybee on Oct 8, 2016 14:03:43 GMT
She was instrumental in getting the Children's Healthcare Insurance Program passed (which provides healthcare to many kids I teach. Without it, ypthey would not have insurance at all). Also-- the Adoption and Safe Families Act--google it.
She was a very competent (and busy) Secretary of State and helped lay the groundwork for many agreements and treaties--including the TOUGHEST sanctions against Iran in history and a cease fire between Israel and Hamas. She was (and is) a champion for woman all over the world. She helped rebuild the reputation of the US after it was damaged badly (we were NOT well liked) during the Bush years.
As a senator, she fought hard for New York (which so many people are quick to point out is not even her home). She fought for victims, first responders and the city as a whole.
She cosponsored a bill to increase military survivor benefits from $12,000 to $100,000.
She helped lay the groundwork for the Liliy Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
And so much more... She fights for women and children. She does, you cannot say that about Trump. He might say it, but his ACTIONS prove otherwise,
Is she perfect? No! But I am proud to vote for her and think she will continue to fight for things that are important to me.
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Post by shescrafty on Oct 8, 2016 14:13:17 GMT
I don't think a president or any candidate has personally helped me, but looking at her track record going back to the 70s she has done consistent work on behalf of children and women. I thoroughly believe that people that have struggles through life have a different viewpoint towards others who struggle. As a teacher I want someone who thinks school is important for everyone-not just the rich.
She didn't grow up with everything handed to her for her to squander away. She had to work hard-and in many cases likely harder than her male counterparts to get to the same place. I do believe she cares for people who are different than her.
I don't think she is perfect. She is a human who has made mistakes. I do believe she has learned from them. The "scandals" of HRC are recycled over and over and over. There is not something new popping up everyday that makes me think she doesn't have what it takes to be president.
I'm with her.
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Post by katybee on Oct 8, 2016 14:13:48 GMT
I don't know how I'm going to vote. Every day I'm more disgusted by D.T. So don't say anything mean to me. But who pays taxes they don't owe? I lost money in the stock market in the 90's, too. I just took my final deduction for the loss last year. Not paying taxes should not be on his very long list of reasons we don't like him. I don't know what she's done for America. I've done a lot of reading on the subject. It's not that he didn't owe them. He manipulated his tax returns to show a loss on paper when there was not really a loss in reality (especially over time). Although it may have been technically legal, it was shady to say the least. It SUCKS that I work so hard and barely bring home $50,000 a year. I cannot even afford to invest in the stock market and worry tremendously that I will not be able do retire--EVER. And yet I proudly pay my fair share of taxes because I know that it's important to keep our schools and fire departments and police and infrastructure running... He's a billionaire (maybe). And yet the burden is on people like me. And he BRAGS about it. Also--there is absolutely no evidence that he makes any significant contributions to charity at all. And he COULD! So easily! He says he does, but no one can find evidence. The Trump Foundation is funded by OTHER people. And he uses the $ to settle lawsuits and buy portraits of himself for his hotels. And now is being investigated by the attorney general of NY. And people dog the Clinton FOundation, which has done amazing things all over the world...
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Post by lindas on Oct 8, 2016 14:14:35 GMT
I looked up bills she sponsored that became law and this is what I found. To be fair I didn't look for bills she co-sponsored and had an active roll in getting passed. During an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer in September, Hillary Clinton was unable to name her "number one accomplishment" as Secretary of State. When she gave her answer, she turned to her tenure as the junior Senator from New York, saying: "As senator working across the aisle on issues like getting better health care for our veterans. You know, this is just the silly season. I am looking forward to eventually debating on that stage whoever they finally nominate once they get around to doing that."
What exactly were Hillary's accomplishments as a U.S. Senator?
As reported by Washington Examiner, of the 713 pieces of legislation she sponsored or co-sponsored during her 8-year senate career, only three pieces of legislation that she sponsored became law.
As documented by Congress.gov, these "monumental" laws were:
S.3145 - A bill to designate a portion of United States Route 20A, located in Orchard Park, New York, as the "Timothy J. Russert Highway". S.3613 - A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building". S.1241 - Kate Mullany National Historic Site Act Just to recap, these were bills that: renamed a highway after a journalist; re-designated a post office; and deemed a brick house in Troy, N.Y., as a national historic site to honor a 19th-century female union leader.
In other words, they were laws passed to turn otherwise ordinary things - a highway, a post office, and a brick building - into something "historic." That's quite a message, coming from the Hillary Clinton campaign.
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Post by txdancermom on Oct 8, 2016 14:22:04 GMT
While not specific things - she knows how to listen, consider other points of views, and see compromises. all of these are lacking in a lot of our current government leaders. She also knows what the job entails, and feels she is up to the job.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 14:29:27 GMT
You can see here all of the legislation Clinton sponsored and co-sponsored and the status of those proposals.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 8, 2016 14:33:14 GMT
she also has spoken out and worked on issues that are important to people with disabilities. this has not been on the radar of any presidential candidate. also..when you look at a senator..yeah.. they do do hometown bills like naming a post office..but they also work on and support bills introduced by others.. she supported more help for 9-11 responders and more aid for new york city. she has continually advocated for more rights for girls and women.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 14:42:49 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage.
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Post by elaine on Oct 8, 2016 14:55:08 GMT
She was instrumental in getting the Children's Healthcare Insurance Program passed (which provides healthcare to many kids I teach. Without it, ypthey would not have insurance at all). Also-- the Adoption and Safe Families Act--google it. She was a very competent (and busy) Secretary of State and helped lay the groundwork for many agreements and treaties--including the TOUGHEST sanctions against Iran in history and a cease fire between Israel and Hamas. She was (and is) a champion for woman all over the world. She helped rebuild the reputation of the US after it was damaged badly (we were NOT well liked) during the Bush years. As a senator, she fought hard for New York (which so many people are quick to point out is not even her home). She fought for victims, first responders and the city as a whole. She cosponsored a bill to increase military survivor benefits from $12,000 to $100,000. She helped lay the groundwork for the Liliy Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. And so much more... She fights for women and children. She does, you cannot say that about Trump. He might say it, but his ACTIONS prove otherwise, Is she perfect? No! But I am proud to vote for her and think she will continue to fight for things that are important to me. A thousand times this!^^^^^^^
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Post by cajeanne on Oct 8, 2016 15:00:28 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage. And this is precisely the only reason many people will hold their nose and vote Republican.
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Post by lindas on Oct 8, 2016 15:04:21 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage. You're right, not much has gotten accomplished for way too long. I don't consider having your name on 713 pieces of legislation an accomplishment, anyone can stick their name on a bill. I would like to know how many she was not just a co-sponsor of but actually active in trying to get passed.
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Post by elaine on Oct 8, 2016 15:06:06 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage. And this is precisely the only reason many people will hold their nose and vote Republican. Considering Trump doesn't appear to know or follow the Republican Party Platform, what makes anyone think that he will select Supreme Court Justices that hold those values? Personally, I think that he will select judges that favor legislation that protects the rich and businesses and could not care less about where they stand on party issues.
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Post by pyccku on Oct 8, 2016 15:13:06 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage. And this is precisely the only reason many people will hold their nose and vote Republican. Yeah, he may have an R after his name - but he's not a Republican. Trump isn't going to make America great for anyone but Trump. Save
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Post by hollymolly on Oct 8, 2016 15:14:41 GMT
She was instrumental in getting the Children's Healthcare Insurance Program passed (which provides healthcare to many kids I teach. Without it, ypthey would not have insurance at all). Also-- the Adoption and Safe Families Act--google it. She was a very competent (and busy) Secretary of State and helped lay the groundwork for many agreements and treaties--including the TOUGHEST sanctions against Iran in history and a cease fire between Israel and Hamas. She was (and is) a champion for woman all over the world. She helped rebuild the reputation of the US after it was damaged badly (we were NOT well liked) during the Bush years. As a senator, she fought hard for New York (which so many people are quick to point out is not even her home). She fought for victims, first responders and the city as a whole. She cosponsored a bill to increase military survivor benefits from $12,000 to $100,000. She helped lay the groundwork for the Liliy Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. And so much more... She fights for women and children. She does, you cannot say that about Trump. He might say it, but his ACTIONS prove otherwise, Is she perfect? No! But I am proud to vote for her and think she will continue to fight for things that are important to me. katybee this makes me proud, too. Thank you!
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 8, 2016 15:19:05 GMT
I'm more than a little surprised that people here don't know one beneficial thing that Hillary Clinton has done, whether as as senator, secretary of state, first lady, or during her younger years as a professional advocate and lawyer. Both Ms. Clinton's and Mr. Trump's "resumes" are readily accessible.
The internet is your oyster. Sure, there's a mound of junk food in the way. Just choose your menu wisely.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 8, 2016 15:22:56 GMT
I don't know how I'm going to vote. Every day I'm more disgusted by D.T. So don't say anything mean to me. But who pays taxes they don't owe? I lost money in the stock market in the 90's, too. I just took my final deduction for the loss last year. Not paying taxes should not be on his very long list of reasons we don't like him. I don't know what she's done for America. I've done a lot of reading on the subject. It's not that he didn't owe them. He manipulated his tax returns to show a loss on paper when there was not really a loss in reality (especially over time). Although it may have been technically legal, it was shady to say the least. It SUCKS that I work so hard and barely bring home $50,000 a year. I cannot even afford to invest in the stock market and worry tremendously that I will not be able do retire--EVER. And yet I proudly pay my fair share of taxes because I know that it's important to keep our schools and fire departments and police and infrastructure running... He's a billionaire (maybe). And yet the burden is on people like me. And he BRAGS about it. Also--there is absolutely no evidence that he makes any significant contributions to charity at all. And he COULD! So easily! He says he does, but no one can find evidence. The Trump Foundation is funded by OTHER people. And he uses the $ to settle lawsuits and buy portraits of himself for his hotels. And now is being investigated by the attorney general of NY. And people dog the Clinton FOundation, which has done amazing things all over the world... There is simply not enough information on those 3 pages of his state tax returns from 1995 to claim manipulation. Anyone who is claiming manipulation or shady practices on that information is purely speculating. Feel free to read anything you like into his lack of disclosing his full returns particularly his most recent returns.
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Post by katybee on Oct 8, 2016 15:23:14 GMT
And this is precisely the only reason many people will hold their nose and vote Republican. Considering Trump doesn't appear to know or follow the Republican Party Platform, what makes anyone think that he will select Supreme Court Justices that hold those values? Personally, I think that he will select judges that favor legislation that protects the rich and businesses and could not care less about where they stand on party issues. EXACTLY. Trump is NOT a conservative. He never was. He is playing the right and they are buying it. It's inconceivable to me that the right believes he will stand up for them. He has 2 agendas... To get back at President Obama for making fun of him at the White House Corrspondents Dinner and to do whatever he can to ensure he can continue to work the system for his OWN PERSONAL GAIN. He does not care about teachers or policemen or steel workers or custodians or YOU. He LITERALLY sticks his nose up at us. Like--seriously--watch him in big crowds of people--he holds his nose in the air as if something smells bad. He lives in his tower of gold and has as little to do with hard working American people as he can (unless he can shaft them for money). But stupid people (sorry--not sorry) will continue to believe that he will actually fight for them.
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Post by hop2 on Oct 8, 2016 15:45:37 GMT
I'm not really a Hillary Supporter. I just can't put Donald Trump Sr. in the white house. Can not do it. From HIS mouth not even any Hillary spin. He doesn't think we need NATO and we should withdraw from NATO He thinks isolating our country is a good idea by building walls and with drawing from long time allies He doesn't think sexual harassment in the work place is a problem to be solved other than the woman seeking a different job Frankly the first one is enough for me to not want him in the white house. What exactly isn't working with NATO that we should even consider leaving??? But I do not want him representing me, my country to other world leaders. I cringe to think what he might say to the Queen! Do I have reservations about Hillary? Sure. She was a better candidate to me than Obama, She was a good Senator for NY. Thought I didn't trust her then either. Then she became secretary of State, I don't think she was a very good one. Frankly I think sending classified email in an insecure server from her home was very bad. BUT I am POSITIVE the secret service is well aware of her past and that will not be allowed to happen again. AND She was the scapegoat for Benghazi not the one who called the shots. The state department had all embassies in the middle east on high alert and non essential personnel were not required to be in. She did not have the say in wether or not help was sent Obama had that call. She was the scapegoat, which she handled poorly but who handles being a scapegoat well? Then there are the Supreme court justices that will be appointed and I can not trust that to Donald Trump. And NO I am not afraid of Judge Judy as a justice More like I'm afraid of one of his quack misogynistic golf buddies he may try to appoint. I actually do trust Hillary more with a supreme court appointment than even Obama. And katybee They are both in it for their own personal gain. That isn't even an argument one way or the other.
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 8, 2016 15:48:09 GMT
She was instrumental in getting the Children's Healthcare Insurance Program passed (which provides healthcare to many kids I teach. Without it, ypthey would not have insurance at all). Also-- the Adoption and Safe Families Act--google it. She was a very competent (and busy) Secretary of State and helped lay the groundwork for many agreements and treaties--including the TOUGHEST sanctions against Iran in history and a cease fire between Israel and Hamas. She was (and is) a champion for woman all over the world. She helped rebuild the reputation of the US after it was damaged badly (we were NOT well liked) during the Bush years. As a senator, she fought hard for New York (which so many people are quick to point out is not even her home). She fought for victims, first responders and the city as a whole. She cosponsored a bill to increase military survivor benefits from $12,000 to $100,000. She helped lay the groundwork for the Liliy Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. And so much more... She fights for women and children. She does, you cannot say that about Trump. He might say it, but his ACTIONS prove otherwise, Is she perfect? No! But I am proud to vote for her and think she will continue to fight for things that are important to me. I was going to type out a response but as usual when I come late to threads someone else has done it already. So I'll just quote Katy and say "yeah, that." So much of what Hillary Clinton has done has been out of the radar, even things she did as Secretary of State. All that time overseas representing us, working for American interests, helping to keep eyes on the aggressive leaders....those are all things she has done for me, and the rest of the American people. My dh works for the State Department so I have heard a lot about her over the years.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Oct 8, 2016 15:54:09 GMT
I am curious..without googling. What have the other Secretary of States done? and can you name any of them? besides the current one? and what has he done?
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 8, 2016 15:56:34 GMT
***Pedantic Sidenote Alert***
Historically, U.S. senators of either stripe who run for president get criticized for inadequate records or "flip flopping." (And, significantly, they usually don't win.)
For short-term senators (Clinton, Obama), it's important to remember that the senate is tradition-bound; seniority and rank are a huge deal. Freshmen senators know their place; second-term senators are still beholden to many masters. (Regardless - and ironically - Ms. Clinton is still known for her bi-partisan efforts/partnerships.)
For a senior senator, accusers of flip-flopping (John Kerry, John McCain) often don't consider that people actually change their minds over the years (!) - or that a vote for-or-against a bill can be based on a portion of the bill's content, including goofball amendments.
As in many things, shades of grey abound. An example: As a many-term senior senator, John Kerry was internally known for his legislative generosity - I remember reading that he often spearheaded a bill or even had his staff write it, only to hand it over to another senator who would politically benefit from authorship. (Of course, this bit him during his own presidential bid when he was accused of legislative laziness.)
Grey. Gray. Regardless, blue and red shouldn't be the only colors in our crayon box.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 15:56:56 GMT
To be fair not many pieces of legislation by any member of Congress is becoming law. And it's been that way for years. What is impressive is that in 8 years she worked on 713 pieces of legislation which says to me anyway that she was trying to do her job as Senator. And before anyone says if she could only get 3 out of 713 pieces of legislation passed what makes you think she can do better as President. I don't but I expect she will try but in this current Congress I don't expect much to happen. Why I'm supporting her is because as president she can veto any crazy laws the Republicans try and pass and hopefully the veto will stand. There could be up to three Supreme Court Justices to replace in her first term. And more importantly she has foreign policy experience and she knows how to behave on the world stage. You're right, not much has gotten accomplished for way too long. I don't consider having your name on 713 pieces of legislation an accomplishment, anyone can stick their name on a bill. I would like to know how many she was not just a co-sponsor of but actually active in trying to get passed. It's never enough for some folks. I suspect that at that point in her career she knew she would be running for president and as she "built" her resume she understood that it would add to her resume if she could list laws passed that she sponsored or co-sponsored. That being the case I suspect she did what she could do to get the legislation into committee, out of committee, and on the floor for a vote. I do believe the only reason she ran for the Senate was as a stepping stone for her run for President. As such she understood she needed to do a good job while Senator unlike some Senators who felt that just holding the office was good enough. Nor do I believe she just "stuck her name on a bill". She has been dinged for being too detailed oriented. Just to "stick her name on a bill" would go against her detailed oriented nature.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Oct 8, 2016 16:01:54 GMT
I am curious..without googling. What have the other Secretary of States done? and can you name any of them? besides the current one? and what has he done? Condeleeza Rice? Colin Powell? Madeline Albright? Henry Kissinger? Do you know any of these names? ETA: I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm genuinely curious.
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Post by coffeetalk on Oct 8, 2016 16:16:47 GMT
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Post by monklady123 on Oct 8, 2016 16:26:59 GMT
I am curious..without googling. What have the other Secretary of States done? and can you name any of them? besides the current one? and what has he done? Well, just to name a few. Without googling... -- Henry Kissinger -- George Shultz -- Alexander Haig -- James Baker -- Madeleine Albright -- Warren Christopher -- Colin Powell -- Condoleezza Rice -- John Kerry (current) And of course Thomas Jefferson was one, as well as John Marshall. As for what they do...as I said above, so much of what they do isn't visible to day-to-day Americans. Their job is to represent us overseas. They try to maintain good relations with other countries, and form alliances to keep the bad guys in check. Think about South Korea and the support they need from all their allies since they are so close to North Korea. Since any country always loses something if you go to war (even if you win you've lost lives and a lot of money) so really our first line of defense is our diplomats working out of the State Department under the Secretary of State. Before the president gets to the point of signing a treaty all the work has been done by the diplomats and the Secretary of State. The Secretary of State represents our president and the United States, and as such he/she has to be tough and diplomatic and caring and interested in people. Perhaps Hillary Clinton's biggest accomplishment as Secretary of State was rebuilding our relationships and our reputation after Bush left them in the gutter. We had the world's sympathy after 9-11, but Bush destroyed that by invading Iraq. John Kerry has been instrumental in Syria, Iran, Israel and Palestine, and he speaks French. That last one sounds trivial maybe, but it isn't. The ability to speak French helped the heal the rift between France and the Unites States that occurred after our invasion of Iraq. Anyway, that's off the top of my head. I'm sure if we googled we'd come up with many other things that Kerry, and all past Secretaries of State, have accomplished that many people might never have heard of. Especially because I remember that our thread here about Johnson's "Aleppo moment" established the fact that many people don't ever bother to read a newspaper or listen to the news.
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