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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 3:35:12 GMT
I'm not referring to you, however, considering all of names Trump supporters have been called here, in the media, by Hillary, etc, I don't think you can claim the moral high ground as far as name calling. All of the words I used are what conservatives and Trump supporters have been called and they are far worse than "sheeple". Not only did smginazSuzy not call her side out on name calling on the "effing moron" thread, she participated in that name calling. So it's laughable to see her calling someone out on the opposing side now.
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TheOtherMeg
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 12, 2016 4:17:58 GMT
And using your logic, if Bill Clinton wanted your daughter to suck his dick under his desk and his wife called her a bimbo or a whore for doing so, you'd be fine with it. (because that's exactly what's happened with the Clintons). Stellar. And given that Trump only "said" those words whereas Bill actually did them AND Hillary called the women those names, I think your choice is worse. Frankly, a woman who sucks a married man's dick deserves to be called whatever name the wronged wife wants to call her. I have no problem with Hillary Clinton calling the women her husband cheated with whatever names she wants, especially during private conversations. I assume that she called her husband a few choice names, all of them deserved, as well. We're talking about women who screw around with married men. While the men aren't saints by any means, the women are not innocent little angels, either. 1. Bill Clinton isn't running for president. 2. If Hillary Clinton called women who carry on with married men whores and/or bimbos, it's no more than calling it like it is. If a woman doesn't want to be called such names, she shouldn't mess around with married men. 3. Donald Trump not only said vile things, he admitted doing them, and some of them are, by definition, sexual assault. Donald Trump. The one actually running for POTUS. Not Donald's wife. Donald. Admitted to performing acts of sexual assault. Save
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 4:22:07 GMT
You can justify it as you choose. You ignore the fact that there are women who claim that Bill Clinton raped them and that Hillary threatened them if they spoke. Are you also claiming "they" are whores or deserve it? Remind me the next time someone blames the victim of a rape. I'll be sure to remind you of your comments here.
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TheOtherMeg
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Oct 12, 2016 4:39:24 GMT
I said nothing regarding victims of rape. Nor did I say anything about women who have accused someone of rape.
I was speaking to your example of a woman giving a blow job to a married man, and referring to women who carry on with married men.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 4:44:27 GMT
And I'm saying that no less than four women have come forward claiming they were raped or sexually abused by Bill Clinton and threatened by Hillary. They were also referred to as bimbos by Hillary (not to mention various liberal women).
Are they whores? Or is Hillary the whore by sticking with him in order to further her political career?
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Post by mzza111 on Oct 12, 2016 4:47:48 GMT
I see the resident drunk is on a binder.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 12, 2016 4:53:05 GMT
And I'm saying that no less than four women have come forward claiming they were raped or sexually abused by Bill Clinton and threatened by Hillary. They were also referred to as bimbos by Hillary (not to mention various liberal women). Are they whores? Or is Hillary the whore by sticking with him in order to further her political career? And so far, nothing has been proven as to these alleged assaults and threats.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 4:56:22 GMT
Because we couldn't possibly accept their word as true, could we? We believed it when the allegations were made against Bill Cosby but Clinton? No, it just has to be a right wing conspiracy, right?
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 12, 2016 5:09:34 GMT
I'm not referring to you, however, considering all of names Trump supporters have been called here, in the media, by Hillary, etc, I don't think you can claim the moral high ground as far as name calling. All of the words I used are what conservatives and Trump supporters have been called and they are far worse than "sheeple". Surprise, surprise here you are on yet another of the many political threads that you said you were not going to participate in. You are just all over the place. So much for self discipline.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 5:12:11 GMT
Please see my thread about the fact that I'm posting again. No explanations for you or anyone else. Sorry to take away from your fun following me around to post about the fact that I'm posting.
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Post by femalebusiness on Oct 12, 2016 5:20:08 GMT
Please see my thread about the fact that I'm posting again. No explanations for you or anyone else. Sorry to take away from your fun following me around to post about the fact that I'm posting. Oh honey, you are delusional if you think I even read what you write most of the time much less follow you around. There are reasonable conservatives that I like hearing from. No one needs your crap. But it is obvious from seeing your avatar on all of the political threads again that what you say you will do is not what you do.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 5:22:55 GMT
Not so delusional. Just take a look at how many times you have posted to me this evening. And yes, you have followed me around from thread to thread.
If you dislike what I post, put me on ignore. And here's a tip: if you want to pretend that you don't read someone's posts, don't respond to them. It's a dead giveaway that you do.
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Oct 12, 2016 5:24:41 GMT
And here's another tip: a person can say they're not going to post and then voila...change their mind. No one owes you an explanation or is contractually bound in any way. Deal with it.
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Post by mzza111 on Oct 12, 2016 5:25:53 GMT
It's 1:30am, do us all a favor, call your sponsor.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Oct 12, 2016 11:34:22 GMT
1. Bill Clinton isn't running for president. 2. If Hillary Clinton called women who carry on with married men whores and/or bimbos, it's no more than calling it like it is. If a woman doesn't want to be called such names, she shouldn't mess around with married men. 3. Donald Trump not only said vile things, he admitted doing them, and some of them are, by definition, sexual assault. Donald Trump. The one actually running for POTUS. Not Donald's wife. Donald. Admitted to performing acts of sexual assault. I agree with this. Clinton DID those things, not his wife. What wife of ANYONE who cheated would stand around and say "Oh I Must go have tea with the lovely LADY that screwed my husband KNOWING He was married." NONE..that who. NONE WOULD. She had EVERY RIGHT to be angry at those women. I don't get this "she was so mean to those women" bullshit. Those "WOMEN" knew who he was and they had every right to say "no, I don't think so Mr. President. Fuck off" And I'm saying that no less than four women have come forward claiming they were raped or sexually abused by Bill Clinton and threatened by Hillary. They were also referred to as bimbos by Hillary (not to mention various liberal women). And it's been said (not totally proven yet) that these women have been PAID to come forward. It's been rumoured that these women have been paid by DT himself, to come forward. Trump is a huge hypocrite. He talks of Bill cheating on HRC yet he has cheated on EVERY SINGLE ONE of his 3 wives and is probably cheating on Melania at present time. He ADMITTED to cheating on her in that tape. He ADMITTED that he likes to sexually abuse women for ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. Let us not forget, a judge in NYC just approved the rape case for the 12 year old girl (then) that is accusing Trump of raping her. A 12 year old girl.....think about it. I'm sorry, but Trump is a sociopath.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 12, 2016 13:00:21 GMT
Please see my thread about the fact that I'm posting again. No explanations for you or anyone else. Sorry to take away from your fun following me around to post about the fact that I'm posting. Oh honey, you are delusional if you think I even read what you write most of the time much less follow you around. There are reasonable conservatives that I like hearing from. No one needs your crap. But it is obvious from seeing your avatar on all of the political threads again that what you say you will do is not what you do. She's very Trump-esque
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 12, 2016 13:09:57 GMT
Because we couldn't possibly accept their word as true, could we? We believed it when the allegations were made against Bill Cosby but Clinton? No, it just has to be a right wing conspiracy, right? Not when one of them appears out of the woodwork at Trumps side during an election we don't. Especially when they've been paid to do so. Mighty suspicious for sure. We look for facts. Bill denied the accusations from that one, there has been no investigation so if we apply your "accept their word as true" and innocent until proven guilty, then we go by facts. I'm not into conspiracy theories, thank you very much but I sure see Republicans throwing them around.
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Post by gulfcoastgirl on Oct 12, 2016 13:14:47 GMT
But you don't understand, while I may not like the things Trump says, I do like his positions on the issues and I do like the direction he wants to take this country. What I have taught my daughter is not to get distracted by things that are not important in an election like this and IMO, locker room talk is not important. What he plans to do on issues of the economy, immigration, foreign policy etc ARE important to me. So he gets my vote. And what is it that he plans to do? Because I don't think anyone knows - especially DT.
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Post by Sam on Oct 12, 2016 18:55:26 GMT
I hate DT BECAUSE that that is what he stands for, what he believes and how he feels he can treat people on a public platform. However, I kind of love him and what he is doing, because it is encouraging a lot of people to stand up for things they kept kind of quiet on before. He abuses the disabled and suddenly some people are more aware of their plight. He abuses women and suddenly, some are more respectful of the issues women face. He abuses other races and suddenly some people are re-awakened as to the struggles they face daily. What I REALLY hate is when a political system place so much emphasis on the two people vying for leadership that the policies become a forgotten thought, shoved to the side, and when it ONLY becomes an issue of which is louder or more charismatic or shouts the loudest. Every time you have an election, it is an opportunity to make change for a better environment for everyone - after all, if it is such a great country, all should have that chance to make a better life for themselves. It shouldn't be some alter-ego of America's Got Talent et al. Not at all picking on you Sam , just using part to illustrate that the opposite is also true: "He abuses disabled people...." ....which gives others permission to see them as lesser human beings, allows them to be treated with disrespect and to be made fun of. In public. "He abuses women..." ...which grants others permission to treat women with disrespect. It affirms "rape culture" ala "Brock Turner types" where rape dismissed with almost non-existent punishment so as not to ruin the "bright, promising boys life". It reverts women back from years and decades of fighting to be treated better--equal pay for equal work and breaking glass ceilings. It fosters the attitude that women are objects to be looked at and used as to how a man sees fit. "He abuses other races..." ...which keeps a wedge, creates a ravine sized divide in the US amongst its people. USA is a melting pot. Always has been. He does nothing to bring the differences of ethnic people together, instead always manages to make it worse. His rhetoric is and always has been that anyone who is not a white male is different and not to be trusted and lesser of humans. He is not casting light on these issues for awareness, he's casting them as a nuisance, they don't belong, they are not winners. The thing is, I was stating that from the position that people can (and should) take those remarks and make a positive statement about them. Donald Trump is high profile right now, so to be able to take the comments he makes and put a positive spin for the people he puts down highlights the issues - he has done a lot for many people trying to highlight issues (inadvertently) and if they create the right publicity in the right way, they can do it far more effectively and on a lower budget than they could have hoped before he opened his big fat mouth!!!!
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Post by grinningcat on Oct 13, 2016 13:17:41 GMT
I disagree with you. I don't think most of his supporters had spent a lot of time thinking their voices weren't being heard. I don't think they were paying attention to politics at all. What do they want? What platforms are they for that Trump is pushing for? I'll just stop there... Except to say that Mary Beth Glenn's twitter rant is absoLUtely epic and fantastic! They are afraid, afraid of people that don't look like them, that they don't understand. They are afraid that they will or already have lost their jobs. They are afraid of Isis and Syrians, and black people. Look at the statistics of a typical Trump voter. They are more likely to live in the town they were raised in, they are white, working class, rural or live in a small town/city and are men. I highly recommend reading this article. The subject felt that "finally, someone who thinks like me" in reference to DT. His scare tactics just play into the fear of the mob. www.washingtonpost.com/national/finally-someone-who-thinks-like-me/2016/10/01/c9b6f334-7f68-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.htmlDT losing does not solve our countries issues. That article is positively terrifying.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 13, 2016 14:40:45 GMT
You can justify it as you choose. You ignore the fact that there are women who claim that Bill Clinton raped them and that Hillary threatened them if they spoke. Are you also claiming "they" are whores or deserve it? Remind me the next time someone blames the victim of a rape. I'll be sure to remind you of your comments here. You are also ignoring the fact that there have been people who claim that Trump has assaulted them--including one who was a child at the time and said she was threatened as well.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 13, 2016 14:57:33 GMT
You can justify it as you choose. You ignore the fact that there are women who claim that Bill Clinton raped them and that Hillary threatened them if they spoke. Are you also claiming "they" are whores or deserve it? Remind me the next time someone blames the victim of a rape. I'll be sure to remind you of your comments here. You are also ignoring the fact that there have been people who claim that Trump has assaulted them--including one who was a child at the time and said she was threatened as well. And while the claims that Hillary threatened them are not what the extremists wants you to believe, here we have Donald Trump making threats all over the media. Most of the so called threats from Hillary have been heresay, and 6 degrees of separation, but Donald Trump is first hand real time threatening and bullying.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 13, 2016 14:58:46 GMT
You can justify it as you choose. You ignore the fact that there are women who claim that Bill Clinton raped them and that Hillary threatened them if they spoke. Are you also claiming "they" are whores or deserve it? Remind me the next time someone blames the victim of a rape. I'll be sure to remind you of your comments here. Those claims of Hillary threatening them not to speak have not been substantiated. It's all third, fourth party heresay.
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