~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 17:39:49 GMT
Here's an article that articulates what many of us feel. Read it in full if you're truly interested in knowing why many of us voted for him. I know you won't agree with this guy and I know how you'll pick apart what he says, but just remember, you've asked at various time for reasons and here they are. fixed
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 17:42:29 GMT
Lauren, the link didn't work for me.
I don't know if you saw the video that Miz shared (molotov cocktail), but it was very helpful to me in understanding why Trump got some of the votes he did, and in some of the regions he did. Don't let who made the video put you off-I almost didn't watch it because of that, but I'm glad I gave it a shot.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 10, 2016 17:43:13 GMT
It just sends me back here. As a Republican, I still have a hard time with the PERSON, not the positions he stood for. My teacher friends are really struggling with how to deal with the ramifications of all of the bullying.
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Post by mimi3566 on Nov 10, 2016 17:43:22 GMT
It's a blank page so should I take it that there are no reasons or perhaps that link isn't working?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 17:56:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 22:45:23 GMT
I don't think the tone of that article is helpful at all. The author is painting all non-Trump voters with a hugely wide brush. IMO, the Michael Moore video did a much better job of illustrating why/how this happened.
Until BOTH sides decide to stop the arguing and constant finger-pointing, nothing is going to get better-no matter which morally bankrupt and corrupt party controls the White House and Congress. I really hope that the party that currently has control will extend an olive branch and give the high road a sincere and genuine try. And that the Democrats* will also knock it off, accept that gesture gracefully, and work towards compromise. Someone's got to be the better "man."
*excepting President Obama. He's doing a great job with advocating working together. Time for the DNC and Congressional Democrats to follow his lead.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Nov 10, 2016 22:52:50 GMT
I think Mike Rowe summed it up so nicely, politely in only the way that Mike Rowe can. He needs to be in politics. "Off The Wall Hey Mike. You’ve been very quiet. Everything OK? I just wanted you to know that I voted for you. I was also hoping you might explain what the hell happened on Tuesday, and say something to make me feel better about my fellow man. Thanks, Carol Savoy Hi Carol Last Friday, my dog posted a video that featured a man licking a cat with the aid of a device that’s designed for the specific purpose of making it easier for people to lick their cats.I’ve been silent ever since, because frankly, I couldn’t think of a better way – metaphorical or otherwise - to express my feelings about this election cycle. The entire country it seems, has been preoccupied with finding a way to lick a cat without actually putting their tongue on it. Too oblique? Too weird? Ok, how about this analysis: Back in 2003, a very unusual TV pilot called Dirty Jobs, Forrest-Gumped its way onto The Discovery Channel and found an audience – a big one. For Discovery, this was a problem. You see, Dirty Jobs didn’t look like anything else on their channel. It wasn’t pretty or careful. It took place in sewers and septic tanks, and featured a subversive host in close contact with his 8-year old inner child who refused to do second takes. Everyone agreed that Dirty Jobs was totally “off-brand” and completely inappropriate for Discovery. Everyone but the viewers. The ratings were just too big to ignore, so the pilot got a green-light, and yours truly finally got a steady gig. But here's the thing - Dirty Jobs didn’t resonate because the host was incredibly charming. It wasn’t a hit because it was gross, or irreverent, or funny, or silly, or smart, or terribly clever. Dirty Jobs succeeded because it was authentic. It spoke directly and candidly to a big chunk of the country that non-fiction networks had been completely ignoring. In a very simple way, Dirty Jobs said “Hey - we can see you,” to millions of regular people who had started to feel invisible. Ultimately, that’s why Dirty Jobs ran for eight seasons. And today, that’s also why Donald Trump is the President of the United States. I know people are freaked out, Carol. I get it. I’m worried too. But not because of who we elected. We've survived 44 Presidents, and we'll survive this one too. I’m worried because millions of people now seem to believe that Trump supporters are racist, xenophobic, and uneducated misogynists. I'm worried because despising our candidates publicly is very different than despising the people who vote for them. Last week, three old friends – people I’ve known for years - each requested to be “unfriended” by anyone who planned on voting for Trump. Honestly, that was disheartening. Who tosses away a friendship over an election? Are my friends turning into those mind-numbingly arrogant celebrities who threaten to move to another country if their candidate doesn’t win? Are my friends now convinced that people they’ve known for years who happen to disagree with them politically are not merely mistaken – but evil, and no longer worthy of their friendship? For what it’s worth, Carol, I don’t think Donald Trump won by tapping into America’s “racist underbelly,” and I don’t think Hillary lost because she’s a woman. I think a majority of people who voted in this election did so in spite of their many misgivings about the character of both candidates. That’s why it’s very dangerous to argue that Clinton supporters condone lying under oath and obstructing justice. Just as it’s equally dangerous to suggest a Trump supporter condones gross generalizations about foreigners and women. These two candidates were the choices we gave ourselves, and each came with a heaping helping of vulgarity and impropriety. Yeah, it was dirty job for sure, but the winner was NOT decided by a racist and craven nation – it was decided by millions of disgusted Americans desperate for real change. The people did not want a politician. The people wanted to be seen. Donald Trump convinced those people that he could see them. Hillary Clinton did not. As for me, I’m flattered by your support, but grateful that your vote was not enough to push me over the top. However, when the dust settles, and The White House gets a new tenant, I’ll make the same offer to President Trump that I did to President Obama – to assist as best I can in any attempt to reinvigorate the skilled trades, and shine a light on millions of good jobs that no one seems excited about pursuing. bit.ly/2fG1SxILike those 3 million “shovel ready” jobs we heard so much about eight years ago, the kind of recovery that Donald Trump is promising will require a workforce that’s properly trained and sufficiently enthused about the opportunities at hand. At the moment, we do not have that work force in place. What we do have, are tens of millions of capable people who have simply stopped looking for work, and millions of available jobs that no one aspires to do. That's the skills gap, and it's gotta close. If mikeroweWORKS can help, we're standing by. If not, I suppose we'll just have to find another way to lick the cat. Mike" link to facebook post
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 22:59:11 GMT
TFS freebird. He is such a great writer.
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~Lauren~
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Jun 26, 2014 3:33:18 GMT
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Nov 10, 2016 23:13:03 GMT
Perhaps, but have you been paying attention to all of the "wide brush painting" being done here and on facebook about Trump supporters?
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 10, 2016 23:30:50 GMT
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 10, 2016 23:35:33 GMT
freebird - TFS! I adore Mike Rowe. <secretly wishing he were a pea>
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Nov 10, 2016 23:38:48 GMT
freebird - TFS! I adore Mike Rowe. <secretly wishing he were a pea> Maybe we can peatlejuice him.
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Post by leftturnonly on Nov 10, 2016 23:41:13 GMT
freebird - TFS! I adore Mike Rowe. <secretly wishing he were a pea> Maybe we can peatlejuice him. No lie. My heart just jumped at that thought. Mike Rowe, Mike Rowe, Mike Rowe, clicks heals, spins, tosses salt over shoulder.....
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 10, 2016 23:49:04 GMT
Perhaps, but have you been paying attention to all of the "wide brush painting" being done here and on facebook about Trump supporters? I've definitely seen that...there's even a current thread: NSBR: "Do you really feel this way"
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Shel
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Post by Shel on Nov 11, 2016 0:27:50 GMT
Ok I think Mike Rowe is absolutely correct. I love his perspective on a lot of things though.
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AnotherPea
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 11, 2016 0:33:19 GMT
Perhaps, but have you been paying attention to all of the "wide brush painting" being done here and on facebook about Trump supporters? Exactly. I know a lot of trump voters. They aren't racist, uneducated or morons. Which multiple people have said they are, on this very board.
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