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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 16:53:59 GMT
Do Clinton supporters really think all Trump supporters are racist, uncaring, ignorant and the plethora of other hateful comments that has been stated about Trump supporters? I voted for Trump, he was my choice , do I agree with everything he believes in GOD no, does he have the power to do everything he wants, probably not. He spoke to me for several reason... the main one is to stop the handouts. I'm sick of seeing social programs being abused. I'm sick of my family working hard and supporting those that don't. I think we need a major shake up, being so politically correct has made our nation weak. There is a difference between being polite and being weak and I think this is where Trump resonates with the country.
Do I think we should go back to the good old days, god no but do I think we need to re-evaluate our foreign policies/aid, our government aid here in America & our support for those that defend us ( military, LEO and etc...)... yes. We need to bring back jobs, re-build communities and help Americans stand on their own and get off government assistance.
Please, I know many of you are upset, but to sit here and make any statements that Trump supporters are bastards,ignorant, uneducated or racists lumps everyone into the same basket. All things I have seen written here, main reason I have stayed away from voicing why I support Trump. So is that really how you feel?
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used2scrap
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 9, 2016 17:01:10 GMT
He racially attacked our sitting President, he attacked women, and while I heard sound bites, I never heard him campaign on articulate plans to actually govern. The Trump campaign to me came across as anti Hillary, not pro America. Look at the Republicans who did not vote for him. Yes that is truly what a large segment of the nation saw.
Edited to add: my 15 year old son came downstairs this morning, after going to sleep hoping for a miracle last night, sighed, and said "so basically the a*hole that comes to school everyday waving the confederate flag grew up to be the President. Right or wrong, yes people see it.
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pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Nov 9, 2016 17:01:30 GMT
I am not a Hillary supporter. In fact, this was the first time I did not vote Republican for President. I see Donald Trump as having the negative traits you listed. Because of that, people who share those traits have been displaying them for the world to see. It's made it okay to be a bigot, assault women, and to demean and attack minorities, because Trump's supporters made excuses for his bad behavior.
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Nov 9, 2016 17:01:32 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way.
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Post by Zee on Nov 9, 2016 17:02:42 GMT
The People of Wal-Mart have OVERCOME!
I hope they realize just what they've done when those "rapist" Mexicans refuse to build or pay for that wall. I guess at least their menfolks will still have their guns, to protect the ladies from having their pussies grabbed.
Whatever, we'll all survive.
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Post by dulcemama on Nov 9, 2016 17:05:32 GMT
I don't believe that all Trump supporters are racist, sexist, etc. but I find it very concerning that so many of them were willing to look past that for political expediency.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 17:07:30 GMT
Given some of the sentiments I've seen from his supporters, yes, I do believe that a good chunk of his supporters are racist. Not necessarily towards blacks but towards anyone who is not a white Christian, especially Arabs and more so Muslims. Trump spoke to the segment that believe a good Muslim is a dead one. When he promised no more Muslims, they voted for him. I've seen this sentiment from "family."
Do I believe things need to change? Yes. Do I believe Trump is going to bring that change? No. Did I believe Clinton was going to? Not entirely. I stand by my belief that any change Trump brings will do more harm than good. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2016 17:09:32 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way. This. All of this. It's baffling that anyone finds his behaviour tolerable. He should be punished, not given the prize of the presidency. Do I think all supporters are like this? No. But there have been enough examples to show that many of them do. And if you don't agree with his hateful, bullying tactics, why would you support him? That makes no sense. At all. So many everyone is. I doubt it, but it sure seems like the supporters support all of him by giving him their vote, despite his despicable behaviour.
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Post by blondiec47 on Nov 9, 2016 17:10:18 GMT
Do Clinton supporters really think all Trump supporters are racist, uncaring, ignorant and the plethora of other hateful comments that has been stated about Trump supporters? I voted for Trump, he was my choice , do I agree with everything he believes in GOD no, does he have the power to do everything he wants, probably not. He spoke to me for several reason... the main one is to stop the handouts. I'm sick of seeing social programs being abused. I'm sick of my family working hard and supporting those that don't. I think we need a major shake up, being so politically correct has made our nation weak. There is a difference between being polite and being weak and I think this is where Trump resonates with the country. Do I think we should go back to the good old days, god no but do I think we need to re-evaluate our foreign policies/aid, our government aid here in America & our support for those that defend us ( military, LEO and etc...)... yes. We need to bring back jobs, re-build communities and help Americans stand on their own and get off government assistance. Please, I know many of you are upset, but to sit here and make any statements that Trump supporters are bastards,ignorant, uneducated or racists lumps everyone into the same basket. All things I have seen written here, main reason I have stayed away from voicing why I support Trump. So is that really how you feel? Well said, and I totally agree
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Post by LiLi on Nov 9, 2016 17:12:20 GMT
Do Clinton supporters really think all Trump supporters are racist, uncaring, ignorant... Some of them, yes. Most of them, no. However, I think they are gross, uninformed, uncaring, bitter, I could go on and on, for supporting and accepting a man who is all of those things.
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Post by ilikepink on Nov 9, 2016 17:12:27 GMT
I don't think they are all racist, sexist and whatever. Some are, and the loud bandwagon that he started got everyone up in arms. Do we need change? Of course. Are there programs, policies and procedures that our government does that need improvement? Of course. Do I think he can do it all? No--because he has no idea how the government really works-it's not his company, and change isn't going to come as easy as he thinks. But-the people have spoken. This is who the majority of the voters chose, so he's going to be my president now also. I'll just sit back and wait for America to be great again.
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Nov 9, 2016 17:12:36 GMT
of course they do
it's easier to lump people into one big group than to try and understand why a person might still vote for trump
and the trump train does the exact same thing
it's human nature to vilify those that don't align with our beliefs
gina
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Post by farmdpea on Nov 9, 2016 17:12:49 GMT
Do I think all supporters are like this? No. But there have been enough examples to show that many of them do. And if you don't agree with his hateful, bullying tactics, why would you support him? That makes no sense. At all. So many everyone is. I doubt it, but it sure seems like the supporters support all of him by giving him their vote, despite his despicable behaviour. Because you have to vote for somebody?!? As I said in another thread: I live in a very red area, and most people I know didn't want to vote for Trump but felt he was the better of the two viable options.
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scrapngranny
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Post by scrapngranny on Nov 9, 2016 17:12:54 GMT
The answer to your first question, yes. If you witness racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and bullying and do nothing you are just as guilty as the perpetrator.
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Post by scorpeao on Nov 9, 2016 17:16:43 GMT
Do I think we should go back to the good old days, god no but do I think we need to re-evaluate our foreign policies/aid, our government aid here in America & our support for those that defend us ( military, LEO and etc...)... yes. We need to bring back jobs, re-build communities and help Americans stand on their own and get off government assistance. Trump isn't going to do any of this. He has no foreign policy...NONE! Bringing back jobs? You realize that he has admitted to having goods bearing his name made in China? Sure, the jobs can be brought back here, but only the 1% will be able to afford the goods. He has no plan for any of this. I can only hope that behind the scenes Pence will be calling the shots, and giving President elect Trump the credit.
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Post by sugarmama on Nov 9, 2016 17:17:24 GMT
I know people from all walks of life who supported him (or at least the platform). I hope people realize with the name calling, they are referring to about half of our country--your friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. And someone mentioned they could not understand why Trump supporters were willing to look past his negatives and support him. Well, I am sure many feel the same about Hillary supporters. There is a large portion of the population that feels she is dishonest and the votes reflected that.
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2016 17:17:44 GMT
Do I think all supporters are like this? No. But there have been enough examples to show that many of them do. And if you don't agree with his hateful, bullying tactics, why would you support him? That makes no sense. At all. So many everyone is. I doubt it, but it sure seems like the supporters support all of him by giving him their vote, despite his despicable behaviour. Because you have to vote for somebody?!? As I said in another thread: I live in a very red area, and most people I know didn't want to vote for Trump but felt he was the better of the two viable options. If you voted for Trump, you support or tolerate his hatred and bullying towards anyone unlike him. So yes, just by voting. I can't see any other way to explain it. If you (general you) don't support his hate filled rhetoric and bullying ways, how could you (general you) support his behaviour. Would you support or tolerate the same type of behaviour in anyone else in your life?
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Post by swtpeasmom on Nov 9, 2016 17:19:53 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way.
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tincin
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Post by tincin on Nov 9, 2016 17:22:34 GMT
I don't think they are all racist, sexist and whatever. Some are, and the loud bandwagon that he started got everyone up in arms. Do we need change? Of course. Are there programs, policies and procedures that our government does that need improvement? Of course. Do I think he can do it all? No--because he has no idea how the government really works-it's not his company, and change isn't going to come as easy as he thinks. But-the people have spoken. This is who the majority of the voters chose, so he's going to be my president now also. I'll just sit back and wait for America to be great again. He will never be my President. I've never said that before. I've been disappointed before but I've never been afraid of the America we have become. Today I am horrified and frightened.
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Post by carly on Nov 9, 2016 17:24:24 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way. Just because you bully on this message board the "politically correct" way, doesn't make you any better. The people that voted Trump are tired of being shutdown with "you're racist, you're homophobic etc.". No I doubt he will do half of what he says but we sent a message, just because we don't think or believe what you do....well it makes us a deplorable and damn proud!
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Nov 9, 2016 17:26:06 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way. It isn't conceivable to some that there are those who held their nose and voted for Trump as possibly the BIGGEST "F U" to the Establishment the world has ever seen. What the DNC did to Bernie and his supporters is, apparently, unforgivable...my guess is a good majority of Berners voted for Trump instead of falling "in line behind Hillary" (not to mention the legion of Independents who were also Sanders supporters). ETA: It is completely beyond some people to understand that some of us just can.not.stomach Hillary Clinton. At all. I'm fortunate - my state went blue and I knew it would go blue so I was able to vote my conscience - "NO CONFIDENCE". I am horrified that Trump won - amazed, but yeah, horrified. I would have been more horrified if Clinton had won but at least I was mentally prepared for that outcome. My hands are clean though...and I was able to sleep last night knowing my vote didn't do ANY of this. This election - disgusting as it is - is a revolt against the concept of passing presidential power around political families as though we are a monarchy. Trump's win is kind of a sick testimonial to the idea that anyone, ANYONE can be president of the US.
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Post by sugarmama on Nov 9, 2016 17:26:16 GMT
Four years ago, I was deeply disappointed in the outcome and I got on facebook and one of my dear friends had posted that she was going to pray for our leaders and support them in every way possible because they have such a difficult job, etc. It really changed my outlook on the election. And here we are, four years later, and I have survived, our nation has survived. It's only gloom and doom if you choose to bask in it.
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Anita
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Post by Anita on Nov 9, 2016 17:27:52 GMT
I honestly didn't. And then I read my Facebook wall this morning...
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Post by ahiller on Nov 9, 2016 17:28:19 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way. Same here. No one stood up and said enough. No one said no to the t-shirts that implied that hanging journalists was ok. No one said no to people shouting to assassinate Hillary. No one said no to the horrible things he said about many different groups of people. No one said enough. Do I think you are all racist in your daily lives? No, not the people here. But one doesn't have to be racist to condone racism, you just have to stand by and say nothing. ETA: yes, I think there are a large group of Trump supporters who are racist, sexist, whatever. I was referring to the Peas here in my above post.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Nov 9, 2016 17:28:59 GMT
I don't believe that all Trump supporters are racist, sexist, etc. but I find it very concerning that so many of them were willing to look past that for political expediency. Agree with this, do I think you're racist or sexist, i'm guessing your not. Do I think Hillary was perfect, absolutely not. One of the big things for me is that HE is and he is treating people incredibly disrespectfully! He also has very little control over his mouth (and fingers), which I think could be dangerous. In my life, I just don't want to be associated with the type of person Donald is nor would I want him representing me.
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grinningcat
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 9, 2016 17:31:41 GMT
I feel that anyone and everyone who supported him has tacitly agreed with bullying, threatening, predatory behavior. That all of you believe that being a self admitted sexual predator is just fine. That you approve of sexism, racism, xenophobia, and homophobia. Any one of which eliminated any chance of him receiving my vote. So yes, I really feel that way. Same here. No one stood up and said enough. No one said no to the t-shirts that implied that hanging journalists was ok. No one said no to people shouting to assassinate Hillary. No one said no to the horrible things he said about many different groups of people. No one said enough. Do I think you are all racist in your daily lives? No, not the people here. But one doesn't have to be racist to condone racism, you just have to stand by and say nothing. Your post made me think of this poem from the post-WWII era: First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me (Martin Niemoller)
By the time someone spoke out about Trump's behaviour and the behaviour of some of his supporters, it was too late.
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Post by littlemama on Nov 9, 2016 17:32:14 GMT
From CNN: The five things Trump's supporters expect him to deliver on:
The wall (locking out Mexicans) "lock her up" (even though there is no evidence of prosecutable wrongdoing) Muslim ban (banning all members of a particular religion, when religion is not the problem) Obamacare (which has given health insurance to millions of people who otherwise wouldn't have it - benefitting the poor) NAFTA (which has been said to have had little to no effect either way) and TPP
So, it's kind of hard NOT to see many of his supporters as bigots. Additionally, when you don't stand up to bullying and hate, you are part of the problem. You can't say you do not support him and then vote for him. Voting for him is supporting him and supporting his words and attitudes.
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Post by gypsymama on Nov 9, 2016 17:34:23 GMT
Yes I do
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 9, 2016 17:36:21 GMT
Here is my response,
Tell me EXACTLY HOW HE IS GOING TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY GREAT AGAIN. No really, every.single.person who didn't vote for him really wants to know the answer to this.
While I understand what you are saying, trying to shake up the establishment is one thing but shaking it up with someone whose children are proponents of using the gas chamber is NOT okay. They learned their bad behavior from somewhere. Being crass and pretending to be ignorant is not ok. I don't think Trump is ignorant at all. I think he played the system really well and made everyone who voted for him think he was actually going to do something. Problem is HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING HE WAS GOING TO DO. Not outline of how to deal with immigrants, no outline of how to deal with ACA other than making everyone pay for an HSA (which is NEVER) going to fly with the Senate or the Congress.
He has told you what you wanted to hear. Now he has to convince a lot of well educated men and women and that is going to be a hell of a lot harder than he thinks.
CSPAN should actually be interesting because he is going to throw temper tantrums and threaten to sue every single one of them. Or wait, appoint a special prosecutor to investigate them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2016 17:37:01 GMT
Do Clinton supporters really think all Trump supporters are racist, uncaring, ignorant and the plethora of other hateful comments that has been stated about Trump supporters? I voted for Trump, he was my choice , do I agree with everything he believes in GOD no, does he have the power to do everything he wants, probably not. He spoke to me for several reason... the main one is to stop the handouts. I'm sick of seeing social programs being abused. I'm sick of my family working hard and supporting those that don't. I think we need a major shake up, being so politically correct has made our nation weak. There is a difference between being polite and being weak and I think this is where Trump resonates with the country. Do I think we should go back to the good old days, god no but do I think we need to re-evaluate our foreign policies/aid, our government aid here in America & our support for those that defend us ( military, LEO and etc...)... yes. We need to bring back jobs, re-build communities and help Americans stand on their own and get off government assistance. Please, I know many of you are upset, but to sit here and make any statements that Trump supporters are bastards,ignorant, uneducated or racists lumps everyone into the same basket. All things I have seen written here, main reason I have stayed away from voicing why I support Trump. So is that really how you feel? No, I do not think that *all* Trump supporters are hateful, racist, uncaring and ignorant and I have never said anything of the sort. I do think that the Trump campaign de-stigmatized being openly hateful and racist - going back to the not-so-good old days in that respect. That's *very* different than thinking that everyone who supported him was racist and hateful. It's undeniable that there was a small but significant - and very vocal - segment of Trump supporters who were affiliated with hate groups. For goodness sake, the a national organizer for the KKK had this to say, "The success of the Trump campaign just proves that our views resonate with millions," Pendergraft told us. "They may not be ready for the Ku Klux Klan yet, but as anti-white hatred escalates, they will." Trump courted those voters with a wink and a nudge and dog whistle politics. For me personally, that is something I could never ever ever overlook in a candidate. And I'll be honest, I have a hard time understanding how others could, no matter how deeply held their other beliefs are. But that still does not mean I think all Trump supporters are bad people. Not even close. I believe that most voting Americans are decent people who voted for the candidate they thought was best. We just have very different values, apparently. Wanting change is understandable. Choosing a change agent who is completely unqualified, morally bankrupt, & downright stupid is not.
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