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Post by pjaye on Nov 21, 2016 1:16:32 GMT
I dont know what her reason is but I know there has been chatter about his son having autism. So the normal parents of kids who have autism can never move house or send their kid to a different school? I'm sorry but (if true) it's just another flimsy excuse, if your child is that badly affected, that he couldn't handle moving to somewhere else - then don't try to become the president and the first lady. He was up 3/4 of the night on election night on that stage, he's clearly able to do that, which suggests he's probably not autistic or particularly fragile or surely his parents wouldn't have subjected him to that. They could have simply said "he's 10 years old and he was tired so we sent him to bed" and no-one would have thought that was strange.
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Post by hollymolly on Nov 21, 2016 1:21:48 GMT
I dont know what her reason is but I know there has been chatter about his son having autism. My nephew is on the spectrum, if that's true about Baron I can definitely see why she would not move him there although I hope that is not the case I'm just quoting you, loco coco because you are the most recent person to suggest that Melania is doing what's best for her son. I don't disagree. The problem is, they should have thought of this before he ran for president. If the responsibilities of the job are going to be detrimental to your family, then you either accept it or you don't take the job. I think all of this is just another clue that he never expected to win and didn't really intend to. I wouldn't be surprised if he quit, either before or after inauguration. Probably after. I don't think they'll have to impeach him though. I think he will just quit.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2016 1:26:15 GMT
This is true. Every time the POTUS comes to town, many average workers (like cab drivers) lose a lot of money due to the inevitable gridlock. They close entire streets down for up to an hour to allow the escort through. Boats and ferries are stopped on the waterways for the helicopter to come in -- and POTUS is accompanied by at least three advance helicopters for protection. I don't know what will happen if it is a weekly event. NYC just doesn't have the room on the already crowded transportation grid for this. I genuinely feel very sympathetic towards his son. Unfortunately, living in the White House is a big, well known part of the job that dad and mom maybe should have discussed previously. I honestly don't think he talked to her about anything...like ever. I think she lost her voice the day he paid for...Er um married her. I was listening to a podcast the other day and one of the people interviewed lived in Trump tower. He told of a conversation with Donald and Melanie after the election and said that they invited the two to a party in the building. Melanie wanted to go but SS said no. Donald looked at Melania and then asked "just a few minutes?" And they said no. It made it sound like they really didn't understand the lifestyle changes that would need to occur.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 1:33:25 GMT
I dont know what her reason is but I know there has been chatter about his son having autism. My nephew is on the spectrum, if that's true about Baron I can definitely see why she would not move him there although I hope that is not the case I'm just quoting you, loco coco because you are the most recent person to suggest that Melania is doing what's best for her son. I don't disagree. The problem is, they should have thought of this before he ran for president. If the responsibilities of the job are going to be detrimental to your family, then you either accept it or you don't take the job. I think all of this is just another clue that he never expected to win and didn't really intend to. I wouldn't be surprised if he quit, either before or after inauguration. Probably after. I don't think they'll have to impeach him though. I think he will just quit.At this point, him quitting certainly would be in the best interests of the country. And that's one of the reasons I have no faith in him to do the right thing and go ahead and walk away now. Since he dived right into beyond unethical behaviors, such as pushing his hotels at foreign diplomats, having business meetings with execs from India, while he's supposed to be focusing on his transition into the Presidency, and bringing his business running DD and SIL in on meetings with foreign leaders, I fully expect him to try to use his new position to suck our country dry and make every last dime he can while costing us millions and millions in catering to his personal whims WRT security and all the legal expenses involving in impeaching and ousting him. SaveSave
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Post by pjaye on Nov 21, 2016 1:34:30 GMT
Hypothetical question, just out of interest......and OK, maaaaybe little hope How does the USA system work? if Trump were to quit/die/be impeached, does the Vice President take over for whatever is left of the original term and then you have a new election at the normal time? Or does the VP only take over for a short time and then the next election is done earlier than normal and the newly elected president takes over ASAP?
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Post by Nink on Nov 21, 2016 1:40:11 GMT
Hypothetical question, just out of interest......and OK, maaaaybe little hope How does the USA system work? if Trump were to quit/die/be impeached, does the Vice President take over for whatever is left of the original term and then you have a new election at the normal time? Or does the VP only take over for a short time and then the next election is done earlier than normal and the newly elected president takes over ASAP? The VP finishes out the rest of the original term. ETA: that in many regards a Pence presidency is scarier than a Trump one. We're doubly pooch screwed
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Post by pjaye on Nov 21, 2016 1:41:48 GMT
The VP finishes out the rest of the original term. We didn't hear much about Pence in Aus...but from what I've read here I'm assuming that would be equally as bad if not worse?
ETA: I saw your reply...
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Post by crazy4scraps on Nov 21, 2016 1:43:42 GMT
Hypothetical question, just out of interest......and OK, maaaaybe little hope How does the USA system work? if Trump were to quit/die/be impeached, does the Vice President take over for whatever is left of the original term and then you have a new election at the normal time? Or does the VP only take over for a short time and then the next election is done earlier than normal and the newly elected president takes over ASAP? The VP finishes out the rest of the original term. ETA: that in many regards a Pence presidency is scarier than a Trump one. We're doubly pooch screwed And if something happens to both of them, then control goes to the speaker of the house next.
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Post by Nink on Nov 21, 2016 1:43:46 GMT
The VP finishes out the rest of the original term. We didn't hear much about Pence in Aus...but from what I've read here I'm assuming that would be equally as bad if not worse? That would be correct. He believes in conversion therapy for homosexuals for starters and it just goes downhill from there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 1:51:53 GMT
pjaye, if you ever have time google periods for Pence. While the issues behind it are horrifying and serious, the creativity of some of those ladies is pretty amusing.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Nov 21, 2016 2:43:20 GMT
With this mess going on, does anyone think the electoral college will step up and overturn his win on December 19? I'm hoping so but not holding my breath on it.
Re moving to Washington.. the feeling I've gotten from every other winner, good or bad, is that the White House is an honor and a responsibility that trumps (ha!) their personal lives. Then again, every other winner has gone in with their eyes wide open and a willingness to serve. *sigh*
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Post by pridemom on Nov 21, 2016 2:56:08 GMT
Has there ever been a President or First Lady that hasn't lived there? Mrs. Truman hated Washington and spent most of her time at home in Independence, Missouri.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 3:05:53 GMT
With this mess going on, does anyone think the electoral college will step up and overturn his win on December 19? I'm hoping so but not holding my breath on it.Re moving to Washington.. the feeling I've gotten from every other winner, good or bad, is that the White House is an honor and a responsibility that trumps (ha!) their personal lives. Then again, every other winner has gone in with their eyes wide open and a willingness to serve. *sigh* It might be the easiest solution at this point, but I don't think they'll do it. Despite some ambivalence I have on the whole "faithless elector" issue, I do think that a part of the reason the system was set up this way was to provide an extra safeguard against a danger such as Trump. I don't think it's ideal, but desperate fascists call for desperate measures. It's kind of ironic that at least one of the electors was saying they'd go "faithless" if Hillary was elected (back when it looked like she would win). This is definitely our last shot to stop the Brexit kind of remorse, but I just don't think it will happen. I agree that Trump is sorely lacking in willingness to serve. We've got a serious mess on our hands and no easy way to fix this fustercluck. Save
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Post by threegirls on Nov 21, 2016 3:49:44 GMT
I don't see what the big deal is. Geez. Lots of families let their kids finish out the school year and then move. They will be moving mid 2017. Some pretty harsh comments for just a few months.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 3:52:25 GMT
Hypothetical question, just out of interest......and OK, maaaaybe little hope How does the USA system work? if Trump were to quit/die/be impeached, does the Vice President take over for whatever is left of the original term and then you have a new election at the normal time? Or does the VP only take over for a short time and then the next election is done earlier than normal and the newly elected president takes over ASAP? The VP finishes out the rest of the original term. ETA: that in many regards a Pence presidency is scarier than a Trump one. We're doubly pooch screwed I used to think Pence would be scarier because I thought Donald would tack to the middle. Nope. He's so far right he's about to topple the ship of state. So, at this point, I don't think Pence could #($* it up any worse.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 3:55:08 GMT
I suppose no military families have kids w/autism who still have to move whenever mom or dad is ordered by the chain of command to move to another base/station/post. Oh, they do?!?!?! Fancy that.
Cry me a freaking river, Trumps. You knew going in what it means to be President - at least in terms of the, you know, the LIVES IN THE WHITE HOUSE part.
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Post by MorellisCupcake on Nov 21, 2016 3:55:37 GMT
I don't see what the big deal is. Geez. Lots of families let their kids finish out the school year and then move. They will be moving mid 2017. Some pretty harsh comments for just a few months. Once again.. The huge expense of security in NYC for the FLOTUS and her son and the disruption this will cause to thousands in NYC for months on yet. And the President isn't "lots of families". By that same token, lots of families will move their kids to accommodate military moves, job relocations, etc, if that's what it is necessary. And the president doesn't get to do whatever the hell he wants at the expense of American people. It is NECESSARY to be the president, and if he wasn't ready, then he shouldn't be there.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2016 4:00:52 GMT
I'm just quoting you, loco coco because you are the most recent person to suggest that Melania is doing what's best for her son. I don't disagree. The problem is, they should have thought of this before he ran for president. If the responsibilities of the job are going to be detrimental to your family, then you either accept it or you don't take the job. I think all of this is just another clue that he never expected to win and didn't really intend to. I wouldn't be surprised if he quit, either before or after inauguration. Probably after. I don't think they'll have to impeach him though. I think he will just quit.At this point, him quitting certainly would be in the best interests of the country. And that's one of the reasons I have no faith in him to do the right thing and go ahead and walk away now. Since he dived right into beyond unethical behaviors, such as pushing his hotels at foreign diplomats, having business meetings with execs from India, while he's supposed to be focusing on his transition into the Presidency, and bringing his business running DD and SIL in on meetings with foreign leaders, I fully expect him to try to use his new position to suck our country dry and make every last dime he can while costing us millions and millions in catering to his personal whims WRT security and all the legal expenses involving in impeaching and ousting him. SaveSaveI know that if he was my choice, I would not ne happy about this, but I wish that the electoral college would just decide to give it to Hillary since she won the popular vote and because of what trump has shown so far. Not likely and I know it would also cause problems, but a girl can dream. Lol. I don't want Pence to be president, either.
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Post by NYCPea on Nov 21, 2016 4:04:20 GMT
Ok. I can't stand Trump and am dismayed that he's our president. But the article only says the plan is for Mrs Trump and Barron to stay through the end of the school year. Yes it will cost us, the tax payers, but if it's only for 5-6 months I'm ok with it. How many of us would want to uproot our child mid-year, especially considering how turned upside down the child's life is already? . Now come May/June when school is out they need to pack up and move to D.C. If not, that's when this tax payer will be irritated. Do you know how many businesses in the area can go under in 5-6 months because of this shitshow? Some are already claiming a loss of revenue. Instead of creating jobs he'll be directly responsible for putting more people out of work.
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Post by used2scrap on Nov 21, 2016 5:40:21 GMT
I don't see what the big deal is. Geez. Lots of families let their kids finish out the school year and then move. They will be moving mid 2017. Some pretty harsh comments for just a few months. And a whole lot of tax dollars from the party of fiscal responsibility.
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Post by Enna on Nov 21, 2016 7:41:13 GMT
I think Trump should watch one season of West Wing. Maybe then he would understand what the job of the President is like.
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Post by Skypea on Nov 21, 2016 9:45:49 GMT
I fixed it hopefully. Really interesting article. I think the situation might have some negative impact on tourism in New York City. And I doubt he will be paying anything himself. He is getting Trump Tower ugraded with tax payers money. Tallennaas were the homes of previous presidents. including in Waco and the Obama's Chicago home.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2016 13:12:05 GMT
Ok. I can't stand Trump and am dismayed that he's our president. But the article only says the plan is for Mrs Trump and Barron to stay through the end of the school year. Yes it will cost us, the tax payers, but if it's only for 5-6 months I'm ok with it. How many of us would want to uproot our child mid-year, especially considering how turned upside down the child's life is already? . Now come May/June when school is out they need to pack up and move to D.C. If not, that's when this tax payer will be irritated. Do you know how many businesses in the area can go under in 5-6 months because of this shitshow? Some are already claiming a loss of revenue. Instead of creating jobs he'll be directly responsible for putting more people out of work. Not to mention how many people will be inconvenience greatly by this in their daily lives. It's incredibly selfish of them to do this.
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 21, 2016 13:24:50 GMT
I have to admit, all this talk of not living in the White House is a little off-putting. It's a symbol of the presidency too me and having it viewed as a part time residency or as optional for the family... I dunno. It feels like a relative turning down my hospitality and opting for a hotel instead, slightly insulting.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 21, 2016 13:35:53 GMT
They just said that Baron has a whole floor of Trump tower to himself. How much time do you think he spends with his parents?
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Post by threegirls on Nov 21, 2016 13:43:38 GMT
@irlc2 - thanks so much for the link. It was an interesting article. It didn't really address the school issue and how much it would cost. The article did say: "This past week, the Secret Service and the NYPD began to draw up a security blueprint to protect the soon-to-be-president while minimizing disruption." Hopefully that will help traffic and the surrounding businesses especially with the upcoming holidays. I'm a little surprised they hadn't thought of that before the election in the event Trump was elected.
The article did mention that other presidents have had their residences secured for the purpose of having a weekend getaway. The difference is the other residences were more secluded. The Trumps should consider this and retreat to something other than the Tower. Let the kid finish four months of school and then vacate the building for the next four years. While Barron is going to school Trump should not visit the Tower.
This morning The Today Show had a segment about Barron staying at his school. There was no mention to the cost or if it would involve extra security but they did say mom and son would receive secret service protection no matter what house they were at.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 13:49:36 GMT
This morning The Today Show had a segment about Barron staying at his school. There was no mention to the cost or if it would involve extra security but they did say mom and son would receive secret service protection no matter what house they were at. Yes, they will receive protection wherever they are. But the fact remains that providing that protection on an on-going basis to 2 residences instead of 1 and to one of those residences being in one of the most densely populated places in the country is going to be enormously more expensive than having the family in one residence in the White House. Of course they didn't mention the costs. But if Bill/Hill or Barack/Michelle had proposed something like this the right's heads would have popped off and Fox news, Breitbart, Rush, etc. would have reported it ad nauseum together w/detailed assessments of added costs to further incense their followers.
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Post by lucillebluth on Nov 21, 2016 13:54:34 GMT
They just said that Baron has a whole floor of Trump tower to himself. How much time do you think he spends with his parents? If Melania is to be believed (I'm not sure she is), she spends quite a bit of time with Baron. The Donald probably spends very little time with him, certainly very little over this past year, which is all the more reason that they should move to the White House, I think.
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Post by ahiller on Nov 21, 2016 13:55:22 GMT
As a mother, I completely understand wanting him to remain in his school. However, given where they live, it's incredibly selfish of them to do so. There are a whole lot of businesses and people who will be inconvenienced by this. Not to mention pulling away resources from the NYPD that are likely needed elsewhere.
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