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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 15:07:13 GMT
The article did mention that other presidents have had their residences secured for the purpose of having a weekend getaway. The difference is the other residences were more secluded. The Trumps should consider this and retreat to something other than the Tower. Let the kid finish four months of school and then vacate the building for the next four years. While Barron is going to school Trump should not visit the Tower. This sounds reasonable. Do you think they'll do it, or even consider it? |
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Post by Rachel on Nov 21, 2016 16:10:11 GMT
I think being first lady is an antiquated role. Imagine if Bill Clinton was the first gentleman. Picking out China, decorating the White House for Christmas. Welcome back to the 50's! It would not bother me at all if he or Melania chose not to live in the White House. Who wants to live in a bubble? He is giving up his salary so maybe it will break even. Meh, I don't care. I so agree. I'm not into politics, but the one thing I pay no attention to is the president's family. They have no say in anything and they weren't voted in. I wouldn't care if the family didn't live in the White House. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 16:18:24 GMT
I think being first lady is an antiquated role. Imagine if Bill Clinton was the first gentleman. Picking out China, decorating the White House for Christmas. Welcome back to the 50's! It would not bother me at all if he or Melania chose not to live in the White House. Who wants to live in a bubble? He is giving up his salary so maybe it will break even. Meh, I don't care. I so agree. I'm not into politics, but the one thing I pay no attention to is the president's family. They have no say in anything and they weren't voted in. I wouldn't care if the family didn't live in the White House. [b Few would give a crap where they choose to live except for the tens of millions in add'l costs! |
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 21, 2016 16:28:53 GMT
I believe holding the office of the President is a personal sacrifice that all first families make. I think that choosing to live elsewhere is somewhat of an insult to the office and the people. ^^^ THIS. The White House isn't just a 'house' it's a SYMBOL. The President and First Lady live there-- preside over state dinners, meet foreign dignitaries, hold meetings, be central to the seat of our federal government etc.-- it is a SYMBOL of our country and its unity, for our leader and their family to live there. That's why it was built in the first place, was it not??
And picking out china and re-decorating isn't a requirement of the first spouse (I don't believe)... but there's a LOT of things the spouse does to make living there easier for the President, in personal terms-- if we (the American people) have to pay for that, I, as a tax-paying citizen, don't have to like it, and I'm free to express that.
Trump has said he doesn't want to live there full-time, either, hasn't he?? Has he changed that stance?? The costs associated with all of this would be staggering, and I don't believe he can pay for it out of his pocket, at ALL. (mainly because I don't believe he's actually as rich as he says he is, but that's a different thread...)
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Post by pierogi on Nov 21, 2016 16:36:31 GMT
They just said that Baron has a whole floor of Trump tower to himself. How much time do you think he spends with his parents? That sounds so strange and lonely for someone his age. Especially isolating if he has special needs.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 17:11:57 GMT
I think being first lady is an antiquated role. Imagine if Bill Clinton was the first gentleman. Picking out China, decorating the White House for Christmas. Welcome back to the 50's! It would not bother me at all if he or Melania chose not to live in the White House. Who wants to live in a bubble? He is giving up his salary so maybe it will break even. Meh, I don't care. I so agree. I'm not into politics, but the one thing I pay no attention to is the president's family. They have no say in anything and they weren't voted in. I wouldn't care if the family didn't live in the White House. I don't care either. As long as they are paying for the extra costs associated with securing two separate residences for the first family. As a taxpayer, I am not ok with them expecting us little people to pick up the tens of millions in extra costs. Not ever ok-especially from someone who has claimed to be "anti-Establishment" and promised to "drain the swamp" and put a stop to government waste. Passing those kinds of cost onto the taxpayers is most definitely government waste. |
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Post by papersilly on Nov 21, 2016 17:45:34 GMT
I believe holding the office of the President is a personal sacrifice that all first families make. I think that choosing to live elsewhere is somewhat of an insult to the office and the people.
Trump has said he doesn't want to live there full-time, either, hasn't he?? Has he changed that stance?? The costs associated with all of this would be staggering, and I don't believe he can pay for it out of his pocket, at ALL. (mainly because I don't believe he's actually as rich as he says he is, but that's a different thread...)
of course he wouldn't pay for it! he said his campaign would self funded and it turns out, he was just loaning his campaign money that I'm sure will be paid back to him with interest. and he will probably find some way to write it off on his taxes too!
and while I admire a mother wanting to do what's best for her child (as Melania says she's doing for Barron), moving a child to the White House to attend neighboring private schools doesn't seem to have caused any emotional harm to the Obama girls, Amy Carter, and other First Children.
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Post by lovetodigi on Nov 22, 2016 0:22:15 GMT
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Post by pjaye on Nov 22, 2016 1:52:29 GMT
moving a child to the White House to attend neighboring private schools doesn't seem to have caused any emotional harm to the Obama girls, Amy Carter, and other First Children. Not only that... if Barron goes to one of the schools that other President's kids have been to then they already know how to deal with it and have the infrastructure and polices etc all set up. Moving him to one of those schools would be ultimately safer for him AND the kids he attends school with, If they leave him at his current school then they have to go through the cost and all of the rigmarole of setting it up safely and appropriately...more taxpayer money wasted. But even in this short time the Trumps have shown they don't care about any of that, they will just do whatever they want without regard to how it looks or how much it costs. They look like they are going to do very few of the things that past Presidents & their families have always accepted as being integral to the role. |
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Post by txdancermom on Nov 22, 2016 2:10:41 GMT
I was in NYC the end of last week, and it was all over the news about the headache security is causing near trump tower. there are small businesses that could be in danger of going out of business because they rely on walk in traffic and no one can walk in. the people that do know about them have to go thru security to go down the street. people who live in the tower have to be screened any time they come home, as to packages, etc before they are allowed in.
there are high end stores too that are complaining, not to mention the delivery trucks, cabbies, etc. NYC traffic is nightmarish at best, this is just making it worse.
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Post by flute4peace on Nov 22, 2016 2:16:16 GMT
They just said that Baron has a whole floor of Trump tower to himself. How much time do you think he spends with his parents? I can't even wrap my brain around this. How much square footage would that be, anyone know? |
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Nov 22, 2016 2:24:53 GMT
If it appeared that I was trying to say that the Trump family doesn't have the right to security or that a NYC should be prevented from running for president, that was not my intention. I also didn't mean to imply that the Fifth Avenue in NYC and the Kenwood neighborhood in Chicago are identical. This is what I was trying to say: Based in my experience, I was questioning the claim of another poster that security would be the same in the Trump home and neighborhood whether or not the family is onsite. I would be interested in any information you have that explains how/why a NYC residence/neighborhood would require the same level of security with/without family presence.No, no - I didn't take your post to mean that at all.  ETA: To answer your question... Because it is such a huge tourist mecca and the enormous amount of people out and about at any given time. Plus, add in the fact that Trump Tower is (for lack of a better word) a public building to some degree. Okay. Thanks. I misunderstood. Because you quoted me, I thought you were responding to my comments. I think we all understand that Midtown has a lot of tourists and that this specific building has high occupancy and traffic. I guess it remains to be seen if the theory floated here - that security will be the same with/sans First Family presence - will prove to be true. |
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Post by flute4peace on Nov 22, 2016 2:25:12 GMT
Lots of good information, thanks for sharing this.
Honestly, I think if I were a tenant of the tower, I'd be busting my butt to get out.
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Post by papersilly on Nov 22, 2016 3:31:21 GMT
moving a child to the White House to attend neighboring private schools doesn't seem to have caused any emotional harm to the Obama girls, Amy Carter, and other First Children. Not only that... if Barron goes to one of the schools that other President's kids have been to then they already know how to deal with it and have the infrastructure and polices etc all set up. Moving him to one of those schools would be ultimately safer for him AND the kids he attends school with, If they leave him at his current school then they have to go through the cost and all of the rigmarole of setting it up safely and appropriately...more taxpayer money wasted. But even in this short time the Trumps have shown they don't care about any of that, they will just do whatever they want without regard to how it looks or how much it costs. They look like they are going to do very few of the things that past Presidents & their families have always accepted as being integral to the role. You are absolutely right about the disruption it will cause at his current school. I get more than a few Teachers and parents are grumbling already. Also, I think there is a far deeper reason for why Melanie won't move. I saw an article that said she was "very independent " but I think that's a euphemism for her and Donald not being as happily married as they want us to believe. I think Barron is just a convenient excuse for her to keep living her own life. |
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Post by StephDRebel on Nov 22, 2016 7:48:50 GMT
Yeah. We'll be footing the bill for him to maintain two households. Not to mention the regular disruption of traffic and whatever else in New York. So I don't want to hear one more fucking word about how many days President Obama spent on vacation. NOT ANOTHER FUCKING WORD. Ever. Anyone who even brings it up can suck a bag of dicks. LMAO!!! I'll send a bag of dicks for you! I've got that covered...It happens to be my specialty  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2016 4:30:57 GMT
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The Secret Service and NY police are in negotiations with Trump Tower to rent office space so they can set up the necessary security precautions to protect Trump and his family while they are at Trump. The bill to the taxpayers for the rent is around $3M. Not sure if this is until the time the kid is out of school or a 4 year lease. It is the responsibility for the Secret Service to protect the president wherever he goes. When on vacation the SS will rent space from a third party if they need it to protect the president. Trump owns Trump Towers (or so he says). That being the case why doesn't he make available the office space the SS and NY police need at no cost? Why should the taxpayers pay Trump $3M to protect his ass? He boasts how rich he is so let him prove it and save the taxpayers $3M. Of course he will bill the SS and NY police for office space because its all about Trump and how much money he can make.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 25, 2016 5:11:29 GMT
FYI Amy Carter went to public school.. I remember that.
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Post by happymomma on Nov 25, 2016 15:13:28 GMT
I hope all of the businesses that will be hit hard are donating to the recount fund!
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Post by teddyw on Nov 25, 2016 15:21:06 GMT
I didn't read all the pages but I thought the Today Show said they're only staying in NYC till the end of the school year then he will go to a DC school-yet to be chosen.
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