|
|
Post by luvmygirls on Jan 12, 2017 22:10:55 GMT
Should an employer pay their employees or make them take PTO when the weather is bad, and it is being advised not to travel. Let's say this is a company that can not close down,but all the employees are not essential.
|
|
librarygirl
Shy Member
Posts: 41 
|
Post by librarygirl on Jan 12, 2017 22:27:45 GMT
PTO
|
|
|
|
Post by disneypal on Jan 12, 2017 22:29:47 GMT
Yes, if the company is open (regardless as to why) and an employee is scheduled to work, but feels they should not due to weather conditions, then they should take PTO.
If the company closed, then they should be paid regular hours but not required to take PTO (assuming they are salary not hourly)
|
|
|
|
Post by marysue63 on Jan 12, 2017 22:34:31 GMT
Are they being 'advised' to not travel, or told outright 'do not come to work'? If you are told to not come to work then I think the company should pay you. If you are advised to not drive then it would be on you and it would be PTO.
|
|
breetheflea
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,894
Location: PNW
|
Post by breetheflea on Jan 12, 2017 22:42:17 GMT
Do you live in Portland by chance? Dh work closed yesterday but not until 10 am, so he worked from home instead of using PTO, but if they were open, even if no one could physically get in to work (or in his case the work parking lot) he would have to use his time off.
|
|
AnotherPea
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,968
|
Post by AnotherPea on Jan 12, 2017 22:53:44 GMT
PTO
Or in the case of my bosses - have afternoon classes after normal dismissal time twice in the week after a snow day. This is to make up the missed day for the kids. none of which stay after for the make up time. THEN deduct a day of vacation time from the teachers on top of it.
Or another time, get sent work to do electronically, including virtual meetings to attend, on the snow day. Then get docked a day's pay or use vacation time.
|
|
leeny
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 4,632
Location: Northern California
Site Supporter
Jun 27, 2014 1:55:53 GMT
|
Post by leeny on Jan 13, 2017 2:18:20 GMT
I have mixed feelings about this. I live near an area that floods. People choose to live there, I do not. If the whole office is shut down, then I think we should all be paid. If it is open and some cannot make it in, I think they should use PTO.
|
|
|
|
Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 13, 2017 2:45:37 GMT
Our non-essential employees take PTO. Essential employees get $20 hotel rooms so they don't have to travel home if they don't want to.
We're a 24/7/365 business with a pretty strict attendance policy, but we typically make exceptions for severe weather.
|
|
|
|
Post by marysue63 on Jan 13, 2017 2:47:27 GMT
Do you live in Portland by chance? Dh work closed yesterday but not until 10 am, so he worked from home instead of using PTO, but if they were open, even if no one could physically get in to work (or in his case the work parking lot) he would have to use his time off. I don't live in Portland currently but did for several years. I'm down in Albany now. When I lived up there I worked at a hospital so similar in that we never closed. At best we were allowed two extra hours to get to work and if we didn't we had to take PTO for the entire day. The powers that be figured that if the buses were running then there was no excuse to not get to work. And I was not an essential employee! But as a supervisor I had to enforce the rules. |
|
|
|
Post by gmcwife1 on Jan 13, 2017 2:47:51 GMT
I have mixed feelings about this. I live near an area that floods. People choose to live there, I do not. If the whole office is shut down, then I think we should all be paid. If it is open and some cannot make it in, I think they should use PTO. I agree with this  |
|
|
|
Post by freecharlie on Jan 13, 2017 2:56:59 GMT
I think you take PTO unless there is a policy that says you get paid regular hours.
Dh works at a hospital. If he couldn't get there, he would have to take PTO.
I twach. They so not deduct from my pay for a snow day. After x number ofbdaya, we add on days at the end and I am expected to be there then
|
|
|
|
Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jan 13, 2017 3:03:06 GMT
My employer makes us take PTO. Our policy is also that even if the office is closed to the public, it is NOT closed to employees.
|
|
|
|
Post by 950nancy on Jan 13, 2017 4:30:46 GMT
I think you take PTO unless there is a policy that says you get paid regular hours. Dh works at a hospital. If he couldn't get there, he would have to take PTO. I twach. They so not deduct from my pay for a snow day. After x number ofbdaya, we add on days at the end and I am expected to be there then Several years ago there was some discussion of schools doing their lessons by video so the kids wouldn't have snow days. No way I would lug all of my materials home every night wondering if there would be snow. No way the kids would have their materials or even be allowed to stay home to take the virtual classes. We had three days built in. After that, schools generally stayed open 15 minutes more per day. |
|
kate
Drama Llama
Posts: 5,516
Location: The city that doesn't sleep
Site Supporter
Jun 26, 2014 3:30:05 GMT
|
Post by kate on Jan 13, 2017 4:47:35 GMT
PTO Or in the case of my bosses - have afternoon classes after normal dismissal time twice in the week after a snow day. This is to make up the missed day for the kids. none of which stay after for the make up time. THEN deduct a day of vacation time from the teachers on top of it. Or another time, get sent work to do electronically, including virtual meetings to attend, on the snow day. Then get docked a day's pay or use vacation time. Can't the union do anything about this? How appalling! I used to work for a wonderful priest. A couple of times over the 15+ years that i worked at that church, he called me to tell me to stay home because of the weather (I mean blizzard or hurricane, not just a 6" snowfall), and he paid me for those times - he truly didn't want me to put myself at risk just to get a paycheck. When I was in my 20's, I used to temp in between shows. I went to a temp job in a blizzard because I desperately needed the hours! I was the only one in the office - I called the boss at home to ask her what I should work on. LOL |
|
|
|
Post by jamielynn on Jan 13, 2017 5:02:17 GMT
I don't think everyone is fully reading the question.
If the business is open, you are scheduled, but you are nonessential and they suggest no travel ... you would either get there safe, or ask to take an unpaid day or use your pto.
If the business chooses to be open and you choose not to go for whatever reason; no, I don't think the employer should pay "some" non-essential workers to take the day off but require the essential ones and those who can come in to still be there.
I think of a hospital and admin roles ect (not nurses/physicians needed for direct care of patients)
I live in a snowy climate and when we expect weather we are prompted bring computers home. If you don't work at home you use your earned PTO while everyone else works. If your internet is down I believe same goes, use pto.
My husbands job rarely closes due to weather despite being non essential. No one is ever in trouble for using pto or taking an unpaid day for weather. That said they aren't paid days the business is open if due to circumstance they can't get there. (Most drive trucks and some enjoy even taking snowmobiles in for fun but it's a small community and a novelty to do so).
|
|
AnotherPea
Pearl Clutcher
Posts: 2,968
|
Post by AnotherPea on Jan 13, 2017 21:46:15 GMT
PTO Or in the case of my bosses - have afternoon classes after normal dismissal time twice in the week after a snow day. This is to make up the missed day for the kids. none of which stay after for the make up time. THEN deduct a day of vacation time from the teachers on top of it. Or another time, get sent work to do electronically, including virtual meetings to attend, on the snow day. Then get docked a day's pay or use vacation time. Can't the union do anything about this? How appalling! I used to work for a wonderful priest. A couple of times over the 15+ years that i worked at that church, he called me to tell me to stay home because of the weather (I mean blizzard or hurricane, not just a 6" snowfall), and he paid me for those times - he truly didn't want me to put myself at risk just to get a paycheck. When I was in my 20's, I used to temp in between shows. I went to a temp job in a blizzard because I desperately needed the hours! I was the only one in the office - I called the boss at home to ask her what I should work on. LOL no union. Nothing here protecting teachers so we really get the shaft. |
|
