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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 15:38:01 GMT
Enna , Italy? Pffftt. What is there to see and do in that country? ;op Are you asking a serious question? Italy is beautiful and there is so much to see there for a relative small country by area. I love Italy.
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Post by MissBianca on Jan 30, 2017 15:38:55 GMT
I wish all of you outside the US who have decided not to come to the US would email the White House and tell them that you had been planning a trip but have changed your plans because of what's going on. They need to know from all of you that there is going to be a loss in tourism dollars and why. Actually I would not only write the White House but write the governors, senators, and congressmen of the state/s you planned to visit. They need to know how this is going to directly impact them financially. Maybe some will stop being quiet about what he's doing if it hits them where it hurts. I hate to say this as an American but don't come here. Don't shop here, don't buy American overseas. Nothing. They made their bed, now they have to lie in it. There are consequences to their actions, shutting the US out is part of that.
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Post by joelise on Jan 30, 2017 15:56:43 GMT
Enna , Italy? Pffftt. What is there to see and do in that country? ;op Are you asking a serious question? Italy is beautiful and there is so much to see there for a relative small country by area. I love Italy. I think it's a joke! There is a wink at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 16:01:23 GMT
Are you asking a serious question? Italy is beautiful and there is so much to see there for a relative small country by area. I love Italy. I think it's a joke! There is a wink at the end. Oops sorry. I didn't see the wink it didn't come up for me.
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Post by ro on Jan 30, 2017 17:40:13 GMT
Ha ha! Yes it was a joke -- I love Italy!!! I just don't know how to do winkie emojis!
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Post by rahnee on Jan 31, 2017 5:33:36 GMT
We have a trip booked for June/July this year to Los Angeles, Florida and a Caribbean cruise. We are in Australia.
I have to admit I'm having second thoughts about going. Everything is booked as far as accommodation and cruise etc. The only thing I have booked yet is flights as I was waiting to confirm dates of a dance competition the kids are competing in here and was hoping to book a couple of extra days. Now I'm not so sure. I think we might see how it pans out over the next couple of weeks but I'm leaning towards cancelling and doing something on this side of the world. Disappointing as we've been planning this for a couple of years but I don't feel completely safe and I also don't want to support his methods.
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Post by gar on Jan 31, 2017 8:37:57 GMT
When you go to Italy or any other countries where English is not their language, nobody speaks English I find that an odd statement. I've always found a lot of Europeans will have at least a smattering of English and quite a high number are pretty fluent, possibly with the exception of the older generation. It's a good job too as the British are generally hopeless at speaking other languages to any useful degree and we seem to always expect everyone else to speak our language.
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Enna
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Post by Enna on Jan 31, 2017 16:27:11 GMT
When you go to Italy or any other countries where English is not their language, nobody speaks English I find that an odd statement. I've always found a lot of Europeans will have at least a smattering of English and quite a high number are pretty fluent, possibly with the exception of the older generation. It's a good job too as the British are generally hopeless at speaking other languages to any useful degree and we seem to always expect everyone else to speak our language. Well, maybe I did generalize too much. After all I speak English as well as Finnish. But based on my experiences in southern Europe it isn't always possible to communicate in English. But usually people in tourism industry speak pretty good English. And maybe I'm just upset that I can't communicate in Italian or Spanish. I would love to speak more languages!
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Post by Anita on Jan 31, 2017 16:29:29 GMT
I lived in Italy for almost two years, and there were plenty of English speakers. My Italian is only good enough to ask where the bathroom is, ask what time it is, ask directions, and order a tomato, prosciutto, and mozzarella sandwich, but I got by fine.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 31, 2017 16:38:16 GMT
When you go to Italy or any other countries where English is not their language, nobody speaks English I find that an odd statement. I've always found a lot of Europeans will have at least a smattering of English and quite a high number are pretty fluent, possibly with the exception of the older generation. It's a good job too as the British are generally hopeless at speaking other languages to any useful degree and we seem to always expect everyone else to speak our language. I've found that it varies tremendously depending on country and whether you stay in the major cities. I don't think we found a single person in Germany or Austria who didn't speak English - and we did a ton of driving around the countryside and in smaller villages. People in Switzerland, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark - all spoke English fluently (although most of my travels in those countries have been to the major cities). France is a mixed bag- if you stay in the tourist areas people speak English, but if you go out into the countryside - not so much. Spain and Italy were a bit different. There are obviously people in Madrid and Rome who speak English - but even there, if you get out of the ultra tourist areas - you'll find a smattering of Spanish or Italian will help tremendously. If you get out of the cities - you will definitely find people who are not fluent in English. I spoke a whole lot of Spanish in Tuscany and made it work pretty well.
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Post by gar on Jan 31, 2017 17:04:14 GMT
I would love to speak more languages! Me too.
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scorpeao
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Post by scorpeao on Jan 31, 2017 18:07:25 GMT
I said it yesterday.. my parents live in Germany. My mom texted me yesterday and said they won't be visiting the US anytime soon and they are American citizens.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 31, 2017 18:17:47 GMT
Even if I was offered an all expenses paid trip, I'm afraid I wouldn't visit the US at the moment and I absolutely love the country.
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Post by tallgirl on Jan 31, 2017 18:21:48 GMT
We already have a March Break trip booked and paid for - a cruise leaving from Miami. So we will be coming for a day on either side of that. Beyond that, I have no plans to travel in the US in the foreseeable future. We were thinking about Hawaii for March 2018 but now I'm much more inclined to go somewhere in Central America.
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Post by miominmio on Jan 31, 2017 19:04:08 GMT
When you go to Italy or any other countries where English is not their language, nobody speaks English I find that an odd statement. I've always found a lot of Europeans will have at least a smattering of English and quite a high number are pretty fluent, possibly with the exception of the older generation. It's a good job too as the British are generally hopeless at speaking other languages to any useful degree and we seem to always expect everyone else to speak our language. If you travel outside tourist areas in Italy and Spain, there are lots of people who don't speak English at all. My BIL's boyfriend doesn't speak one single word of English, and he's not the only one. My son's school is part of an exchange program, and the Italian students spoke hardly a single word of English. I admit I was relieved when we were assigned "our" student....he was Dutch, and we had no problems communicating.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jan 31, 2017 19:12:10 GMT
I find that an odd statement. I've always found a lot of Europeans will have at least a smattering of English and quite a high number are pretty fluent, possibly with the exception of the older generation. It's a good job too as the British are generally hopeless at speaking other languages to any useful degree and we seem to always expect everyone else to speak our language. Well, maybe I did generalize too much. After all I speak English as well as Finnish. But based on my experiences in southern Europe it isn't always possible to communicate in English. But usually people in tourism industry speak pretty good English. And maybe I'm just upset that I can't communicate in Italian or Spanish. I would love to speak more languages! I think it really depends on not only the country, but where you are in the country. Some years ago we were hiking the Tour Mont Blanc and ended up in mountain huts where we were simply known as "Anglais" because we were the only people who spoke any English. When we hiked the Dolomites in Italy - many people spoke English (or at least well enough we could converse or get by with the basics). And so many Germans vacation there that we were able to talk to many of the people we met.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jan 31, 2017 19:39:02 GMT
It might actually be a good thing if foreign tourists start boycotting the U.S. in numbers big enough to affect tourism dollars. Then maybe congress and state leaders would get their heads out of their rumps and stand up to Trump. I agree. Using your tourist money somewhere other than the US is a good way to protest what is happening here, even though most of us will miss hosting you here. I just hope you're not all being optimistic when you say you'll be back in four years. Because I really do wonder what the US will be like in four years. ^^^ I agree with both of the above posts, too. I just really don't think Congress and state leaders will make the connection, though...
and I wonder what the US will be like in 4 years, too... sadly. I have a feeling it will look quite different (and not in a good way) than it has for most of my adult life.
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Post by melanell on Jan 31, 2017 20:09:01 GMT
I totally understand the many different reasons why people would choose not to visit the US right now. Heck, I'm feeling bummed that my son is going to visit DC this Spring and wishing he could have gone in the fall instead. I hate even sending him to visit there now. It just feels crappy to me. How's that for a nice, logical reason?
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Post by panda on Jan 31, 2017 20:51:48 GMT
I live in Vancouver, and I can drive into the States in half an hour. I will often drive across to go shopping for a few hours, and will take an annual trip to Hawaii or California. I won't be going again until Trump is out of office, and I'm not alone in that decision. Many friends, coworkers, and family have expressed the same decision. It's really too bad, because I had a trip to San Francisco planned for this summer
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Post by Sam on Jan 31, 2017 21:16:13 GMT
For me, the answer is 'yes', because we have had a trip booked for a while now - paid for most prior to Brexit and the currency issues, just a week out when Trump delivered this nice new piece of crap. If I was still in planning stages for something a few months down the line, I might start to consider the possible security ramifications (whichever side of the pond they originated from), the potential for 'homegrown security issues' and the fact that, in many instances, I might get more value from exploring other countries. However, I am pretty much committed to my trip and I am sure that I will enjoy it and the people I meet - after all, when you are a tourist, it's pretty easy to avoid politics in a 5 minute conversation!
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