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"Simply put, women have become too much like men. They’re too competitive. Too masculine. Too alpha. That may get them ahead at work. But when it comes to love, it will land them in a ditch. Every relationship requires a masculine and a feminine energy to thrive. If women want to find peace with men, they must find their feminine—that is where their real power lies. Being feminine isn’t about being beautiful or svelte, or even about wearing high heels (although those things are nice). Being feminine is a state of mind. It’s an attitude." In essence, being feminine means being nice (Ed. note - BULLSH*@!! - Being "HUMAN" means being nice). It means being soft instead of hard. And by “nice,” I don’t mean you should become a mouse. (That’s the narrative the culture sells, but that doesn’t make it true.) Men love women who are fun and feisty and who know their own mind! But they don’t want a woman who tells them what to do.... Men are just so much simpler than women. Not simple as in dumb, as is often portrayed in the media. Simple in that they have far fewer needs than women do. What men want most of all is respect, companionship and sex. If you supply these basics, your husband will do anything for you—slay the dragons, kill the beast, work three jobs, etc. Men will happily do this if, and only if, they are loved well in return. It is when men are not loved well that problems arise. That is the nature of the male-female dance.... And here’s what I learned: It’s liberating to be a beta!" Says the genius who purports to speak for all "good men" and "smart women". Because obviously, if it works for HER it will work for every possible configuration of man and woman. A response:"It [her book] imagines marriage not as a partnership between two humans who cherish each other's happiness and sanity, but as some sort of hero/sidekick setup in which the star must be lovingly groomed and propped up for the good of the unit. It argues: You can't both shine, ladies, so suck it up and stand in his shadow. You might even like it. All-consuming, soul-filling love does not require an alpha and a beta. It doesn't demand that one person wield more power than the other. It can — and does — very often exist between equals...
These are straw-man examples. She spells out marriage-killing traits ("dictatorial," "anger," "making all the decisions") and attaches them to strong women. No one — male or female — wants to live with a dictator. Every relationship suffers when anger is present. In a healthy marriage, neither person makes all the decisions. "Amen
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Post by llinin on Feb 20, 2017 14:02:20 GMT
lololololol, wow! That is a bunch of bullshit but at least it was amusing!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 14:31:10 GMT
I just read the intro to the book on Amazon, what a ginormous pile of twaddle.
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Post by casii on Feb 20, 2017 14:48:42 GMT
Oh brother! Sad thing is, I know a lot of people who would agree with her views. Most of them are very conservative Christians, but I know many Christian marriages that don't rely on an alpha/beta model for joy & fulfillment as well.
Even today if my dad doesn't like something I post on social media, he'll tag my husband as though DH is going to come and show me who's boss. More than once, DH has commented that he's in total agreement, so my father has now labeled him effeminate. No, Dad, we're a team. We work together.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2017 14:54:50 GMT
What a good laugh this morning!
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 20, 2017 15:10:23 GMT
I was raised by both a strong mother and father - there was no alpha/beta dynamic in their relationship. I was also raised in a gender-neutral environment where expectations and limitations were never altered based on our physiology.
As such, I find this mindset, especially coming from a female, to be worthy of pity; pity that she has placed these limits on herself, pity that she will place these limits on her children. It's a mindset that not only weakens her daughters but her sons as well since strong men aren't threatened by a strong partner.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Feb 20, 2017 15:12:41 GMT
I guess someone forgot to tell my husband that he's the bee's knees and i'm just there to reflect the light back at him. I realize everyone is different, but i could not handle being married to a man whose masculinity was so fragile.
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Post by eleezybeth on Feb 20, 2017 15:12:43 GMT
While dating my DH and drunk off my butt, I proclaimed to my husband that it was "strong, independent, woman week." He declared his love at that moment and I knew I'd found the one. I never need to play stupid, or be weak to seem feminine, I can be who I am. Our marriage is pretty successful if I do say so myself. Not to say that it couldn't implode (knock on wood) at any time (or that he doesn't do things that make me insane) but that too is life. If it does occur, I won't have to look back on it thinking WTH, I wasn't even myself.
I despise this concept that men are just penises and that you can control them by just being sexual. We can ALL do better than that.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 20, 2017 15:14:21 GMT
I had to look to see the origin of this bull@#$
"The Alpha Female's Guide to Men & Marriage"
This Alpha female is not buying what she is selling. However, if it works for her and her spouse, then good for them.
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Post by originalvanillabean on Feb 20, 2017 15:18:13 GMT
Ridiculous.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2017 15:18:45 GMT
I don't think this idea is too radical. And I do think there is some merit there. I am not married to an alpha male. He is very laid back. He let's me go with my bad self probably95% of the time. But he is still a man. When he feels strongly about something he speaks up and I give him the respect to listen. He came from a relationship with a stay at home wife. Then he got divorced and met me. For the first five years of our relationship I made more money than he did. I know thus bothered him. He felt like he was a man and so it was his job to be the provider. Now that he makes more money it has improved his self esteem.
Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I have found it to be true of my own husband. I think there is a give and take in relationships. I do think we need to accept that men and the male ego are different than women. And I think rather than expecting our men to change their view we need to be gentle with them and nurture them. I think really that's the whole reason men get married. They want to feel loved by someone and in general aren't affectionate with other people the way we are with girlfriends.
I guess what I am trying to say is that relationships are often unequal. Our needs are different than men's needs. While I am not going to choose to make less money to please a husband, I do see in my own relationship that there is appreciation for when I do things that are specific to my gender role. Do I think this makes me an unequal partner? No I don't. Like I said he pretty much let's me go with my bad self 95% of the time. But I also feel like when he is nurtured he is a better husband. And maybe that's old fashioned thinking. But rather than try to change him I prefer to gently guide him using my femininities. And in turn he appreciates it when I act like a woman. And like I said he is very laid back and calm. And I am not. He deals with my emotions too.
Anyway,all that to say I think we need to appreciate our differences.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:23:34 GMT
There's an art to loving a man. Apparently that art involves lying down while he wipes his feet all over you.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 20, 2017 17:09:32 GMT
I don't think this idea is too radical. And I do think there is some merit there. I am not married to an alpha male. He is very laid back. He let's me go with my bad self probably95% of the time. But he is still a man. When he feels strongly about something he speaks up and I give him the respect to listen. He came from a relationship with a stay at home wife. Then he got divorced and met me. For the first five years of our relationship I made more money than he did. I know thus bothered him. He felt like he was a man and so it was his job to be the provider. Now that he makes more money it has improved his self esteem. Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I have found it to be true of my own husband. I think there is a give and take in relationships. I do think we need to accept that men and the male ego are different than women. And I think rather than expecting our men to change their view we need to be gentle with them and nurture them. I think really that's the whole reason men get married. They want to feel loved by someone and in general aren't affectionate with other people the way we are with girlfriends. I guess what I am trying to say is that relationships are often unequal. Our needs are different than men's needs. While I am not going to choose to make less money to please a husband, I do see in my own relationship that there is appreciation for when I do things that are specific to my gender role. Do I think this makes me an unequal partner? No I don't. Like I said he pretty much let's me go with my bad self 95% of the time. But I also feel like when he is nurtured he is a better husband. And maybe that's old fashioned thinking. But rather than try to change him I prefer to gently guide him using my femininities. And in turn he appreciates it when I act like a woman. And like I said he is very laid back and calm. And I am not. He deals with my emotions too. Anyway,all that to say I think we need to appreciate our differences. There's not much I agree with here. The differences between men and women (outside of basic physiological differences) are largely dictated by society. Men feel the need to protect and provide because they are raised with those expectations. Men aren't generally affectionate because they are raised to believe that emotions = female = weakness. My ego/needs are not dictated by my gender because the expectations and limits placed on me by my parents were not gender-based.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 17:12:08 GMT
Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I do find that horribly demeaning to men. As if a burger, blowjob and a few there, there pats on the back will make everything ok in their little worlds. It's just so patronising.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2017 17:15:29 GMT
Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I do find that horribly demeaning to men. As if a burger, blowjob and a few there, there pats on the back will make everything ok in their little worlds. It's just so patronising. I don't think it's demeaning. Or maybe I am just married to a relatively simple guy. I try to meet his needs and in turn he tries to meet mine. My experience might be different based on the kind of man I am married to. I think we have an excellent marriage.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2017 17:16:46 GMT
I don't think this idea is too radical. And I do think there is some merit there. I am not married to an alpha male. He is very laid back. He let's me go with my bad self probably95% of the time. But he is still a man. When he feels strongly about something he speaks up and I give him the respect to listen. He came from a relationship with a stay at home wife. Then he got divorced and met me. For the first five years of our relationship I made more money than he did. I know thus bothered him. He felt like he was a man and so it was his job to be the provider. Now that he makes more money it has improved his self esteem. Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I have found it to be true of my own husband. I think there is a give and take in relationships. I do think we need to accept that men and the male ego are different than women. And I think rather than expecting our men to change their view we need to be gentle with them and nurture them. I think really that's the whole reason men get married. They want to feel loved by someone and in general aren't affectionate with other people the way we are with girlfriends. I guess what I am trying to say is that relationships are often unequal. Our needs are different than men's needs. While I am not going to choose to make less money to please a husband, I do see in my own relationship that there is appreciation for when I do things that are specific to my gender role. Do I think this makes me an unequal partner? No I don't. Like I said he pretty much let's me go with my bad self 95% of the time. But I also feel like when he is nurtured he is a better husband. And maybe that's old fashioned thinking. But rather than try to change him I prefer to gently guide him using my femininities. And in turn he appreciates it when I act like a woman. And like I said he is very laid back and calm. And I am not. He deals with my emotions too. Anyway,all that to say I think we need to appreciate our differences. There's not much I agree with here. The differences between men and women (outside of basic physiological differences) are largely dictated by society. Men feel the need to protect and provide because they are raised with those expectations. Men aren't generally affectionate because they are raised to believe that emotions = female = weakness. My ego/needs are not dictated by my gender because the expectations and limits placed on me by my parents were not gender-based. I agree with you that experience shapes our world's. I do think we should strive for equality in all things. But I also believe in meeting people where they are. And not trying to change who they are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 17:23:33 GMT
Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I do find that horribly demeaning to men. As if a burger, blowjob and a few there, there pats on the back will make everything ok in their little worlds. It's just so patronising. Ick. Any man so pitiful is not worth my time. I'd prefer someone like my DH of 20+ years who has a mind and thoughts and desires and ideas and humor and spark and could never be reduced to food, sex and backrubs.
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Post by jenis40 on Feb 20, 2017 17:23:55 GMT
"Simply put, women have become too much like men. They’re too competitive. Too masculine. Too alpha. That may get them ahead at work. But when it comes to love, it will land them in a ditch. Every relationship requires a masculine and a feminine energy to thrive. If women want to find peace with men, they must find their feminine—that is where their real power lies. Being feminine isn’t about being beautiful or svelte, or even about wearing high heels (although those things are nice). Being feminine is a state of mind. It’s an attitude." In essence, being feminine means being nice (Ed. note - BULLSH*@!! - Being "HUMAN" means being nice). It means being soft instead of hard. And by “nice,” I don’t mean you should become a mouse. (That’s the narrative the culture sells, but that doesn’t make it true.) Men love women who are fun and feisty and who know their own mind! But they don’t want a woman who tells them what to do.... Men are just so much simpler than women. Not simple as in dumb, as is often portrayed in the media. Simple in that they have far fewer needs than women do. What men want most of all is respect, companionship and sex. If you supply these basics, your husband will do anything for you—slay the dragons, kill the beast, work three jobs, etc. Men will happily do this if, and only if, they are loved well in return. It is when men are not loved well that problems arise. That is the nature of the male-female dance.... And here’s what I learned: It’s liberating to be a beta!" Says the genius who purports to speak for all "good men" and "smart women". Because obviously, if it works for HER it will work for every possible configuration of man and woman. A response:"It [her book] imagines marriage not as a partnership between two humans who cherish each other's happiness and sanity, but as some sort of hero/sidekick setup in which the star must be lovingly groomed and propped up for the good of the unit. It argues: You can't both shine, ladies, so suck it up and stand in his shadow. You might even like it. All-consuming, soul-filling love does not require an alpha and a beta. It doesn't demand that one person wield more power than the other. It can — and does — very often exist between equals...
These are straw-man examples. She spells out marriage-killing traits ("dictatorial," "anger," "making all the decisions") and attaches them to strong women. No one — male or female — wants to live with a dictator. Every relationship suffers when anger is present. In a healthy marriage, neither person makes all the decisions. "Amen What a bunch of twaddle! I am firmly in the camp of "you do you" (i.e. If that works in your marriage) but the stereotypes and patronization in this are eye-roll inducing. I personally would not be attracted to a man who thinks like this nor would I model that relationship for my children if I had any.
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Post by Mystie on Feb 20, 2017 17:25:15 GMT
I've read a lot of conservative Christian ("biblical") twaddle like this, too. There have been a lot of people who have made a lot of money telling other people how their marriage "should" be.
On paper, I have a very traditional marriage. But we came to the marriage as equals and we have always treated each other, less as "man" and "woman" with the accompanying stereotypes, and just as "people." I don't like the gender stereotypes, I feel like they belittle both genders. Every marriage is infinitely different from every other. There are so many adjustments and allowances and understandings and alterations that happen over the life of a marriage, and they are different for every single couple. Reducing the spouses' roles to rules and generalizations just does not help, IMO.
Sure, my husband like sex and respect. I do, too. I'd say my need for respect is greater than his. And yes, I like to cuddle and get thoughtful gifts. But his need for cuddling is higher than mine.
I feel like passing out gendered "lists" of what men and women need (especially when filtered through a conservative Christian POV where women are to submit) is a terrible way to try to negotiate a marriage. I've spent 25 years learning what my husband needs and likes as a very unique human being, and he has done the same for me. If we stereotype each other, how can we truly learn who the other person is?
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Post by Mystie on Feb 20, 2017 17:31:23 GMT
I don't think this idea is too radical. And I do think there is some merit there. I am not married to an alpha male. He is very laid back. He let's me go with my bad self probably95% of the time. But he is still a man. When he feels strongly about something he speaks up and I give him the respect to listen. He came from a relationship with a stay at home wife. Then he got divorced and met me. For the first five years of our relationship I made more money than he did. I know thus bothered him. He felt like he was a man and so it was his job to be the provider. Now that he makes more money it has improved his self esteem. Dr laura says men need to feel like a provider and a protector. And in my experience this is true. She also says that men's needs are simple and you can meet their needs with food, sex, and backrubs. I have found it to be true of my own husband. I think there is a give and take in relationships. I do think we need to accept that men and the male ego are different than women. And I think rather than expecting our men to change their view we need to be gentle with them and nurture them. I think really that's the whole reason men get married. They want to feel loved by someone and in general aren't affectionate with other people the way we are with girlfriends. I guess what I am trying to say is that relationships are often unequal. Our needs are different than men's needs. While I am not going to choose to make less money to please a husband, I do see in my own relationship that there is appreciation for when I do things that are specific to my gender role. Do I think this makes me an unequal partner? No I don't. Like I said he pretty much let's me go with my bad self 95% of the time. But I also feel like when he is nurtured he is a better husband. And maybe that's old fashioned thinking. But rather than try to change him I prefer to gently guide him using my femininities. And in turn he appreciates it when I act like a woman. And like I said he is very laid back and calm. And I am not. He deals with my emotions too. Anyway,all that to say I think we need to appreciate our differences. It sounds like you've found what works for you and your marriage, which is all that matters. And you're not writing books telling other couples to be like you, so that's good! (You're not, are you? ) It's a tricky line, I think, to enjoy our gender and pick the gender roles we enjoy, and yet not get trapped into relationships where we are reduced to our gender and the negative aspects of that, particularly for women, the loss of power and respect.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Feb 20, 2017 17:31:52 GMT
There's not much I agree with here. The differences between men and women (outside of basic physiological differences) are largely dictated by society. Men feel the need to protect and provide because they are raised with those expectations. Men aren't generally affectionate because they are raised to believe that emotions = female = weakness. My ego/needs are not dictated by my gender because the expectations and limits placed on me by my parents were not gender-based. I agree with you that experience shapes our world's. I do think we should strive for equality in all things. But I also believe in meeting people where they are. And not trying to change who they are. That's something we definitely agree on. Like you, I feel quite lucky to have found someone who loves and accepts me for who I am. Of course, he's lucky too.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2017 18:54:12 GMT
Mystie, no one should feel powerless or lacking respect. And no I'm not writing books. In fact, like I said for many years I made more money than my husband. Now with me completing my masters degree I am poised to make more money than he does yet again. I lived on my own raising two kids by myself before I met him too. He knew I was a strong woman. He knows it. He respects that about me. I think its important that we role model this for our girls. But I'm not above making his favorite dinner so he whistles while he fixes my garbage disposal. And I'm not above wearing lingerie to make him smile. And that's what I'm talking about. Using our gender to meet each other's needs. Understanding that he is a sensitive person and he needs to feel like he's a man. And you know I'm not going to lie to you, I love that he also respects I am a woman. And I think differently and I feel differently and I do things differently than him. We appreciate our differences.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 18:57:56 GMT
Mystie , no one should feel powerless or lacking respect. And no I'm not writing books. In fact, like I said for many years I made more money than my husband. Now with me completing my masters degree I am poised to make more money than he does yet again. I lived on my own raising two kids by myself before I met him too. He knew I was a strong woman. He knows it. He respects that about me. I think its important that we role model this for our girls. But I'm not above making his favorite dinner so he whistles while he fixes my garbage disposal. And I'm not above wearing lingerie to make him smile. And that's what I'm talking about. Using our gender to meet each other's needs. Understanding that he is a sensitive person and he needs to feel like he's a man. And you know I'm not going to lie to you, I love that he also respects I am a woman. And I think differently and I feel differently and I do things differently than him. We appreciate our differences. That is awesome! And it works for you both. And you're not trying to ram the gender roles down other people's throats. That's the difference. My DH and I are similar. But I would NEVER call him the "leader" or the "alpha" and I would be sad if he thought of me that way. He does stuff. I do stuff. Some stuff he does, he loves, some he hates. Same w/me. There's a certain amount of sh#* stuff to do in life and any relationship is about sharing the good and bad in ways that make both parties as happy as possible and neither like they are being ignored, taken advantage of, expected to, etc.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 20, 2017 19:09:44 GMT
I am finally making more money than my husband. And he loves it. It doesn't matter where the money comes from… we just enjoy it. I came from a traditional home and he came from a home where his mom raised four kids (dad died when DH was three). We took a long time to get everything right. He believed women should take care of the inside of the home and men should take care of the outside. I believed that if he wanted to get married and have sex, we should split the chores. We've been splitting them for almost 30 years.
I think people have to do what they want to do. If you want a man who will take care of you and be the breadwinner, find one of those. It doesn't matter to me how people live their lives as long as they know what they want and are happy living that life. As far as the Christian view point, I was taught that the man was in charge, but that the man was to love the woman as Jesus loved the church. So that means that a man would put his wife's needs before his. Any man that does that could be the boss of me.
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Post by Mystie on Feb 20, 2017 19:23:05 GMT
Mystie , no one should feel powerless or lacking respect. And no I'm not writing books. In fact, like I said for many years I made more money than my husband. Now with me completing my masters degree I am poised to make more money than he does yet again. I lived on my own raising two kids by myself before I met him too. He knew I was a strong woman. He knows it. He respects that about me. I think its important that we role model this for our girls. But I'm not above making his favorite dinner so he whistles while he fixes my garbage disposal. And I'm not above wearing lingerie to make him smile. And that's what I'm talking about. Using our gender to meet each other's needs. Understanding that he is a sensitive person and he needs to feel like he's a man. And you know I'm not going to lie to you, I love that he also respects I am a woman. And I think differently and I feel differently and I do things differently than him. We appreciate our differences. Sure, I get you. I bake my husband chocolate chip cookies (not often enough, in his opinion) and he is my tech guy and all around fixer. And yes, I agree that we have to respect each other for being men and women, too. I just hate when that gets codified and made into "rules," and my exposure to conservative Christian belief on that topic makes me extra-cranky about it. I'm glad that we have the opportunity to creatively make our marriages what we need them to be.
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Post by janskylar on Feb 20, 2017 19:40:47 GMT
So to be happy, I have to be in a heterosexual relationship with a man who can't handle not being made to feel like he is in charge of me. No fucking thank you. I have a dad, and I don't need another one.
This is exactly what my father believes, and the way he acts on this with my mother is so disgusting that I vowed from a young age to never put myself in a position to be dependent on a man. And don't get me started on the way his Southern Baptist church defined a woman's role as a vessel for children and a mindless servant for her husband's every whim.
I'm quite happy in my 9 year relationship with a man who contributes equally to our household. And we both get all of the respect, companionship, and sex that we want. Maybe I'm just simple like a man or something. WTF.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Feb 20, 2017 19:43:28 GMT
Maybe that is the difference for me. Stuff like this doesn't get my hackles up because I am not a Christian. And I have never been exposed to an abuse like that. Because making anyone feel subservient in my opinion is abuse.
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Post by carhoch on Feb 20, 2017 19:46:06 GMT
Alpha Beta bullshit what about a partnership
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Post by janskylar on Feb 20, 2017 19:48:13 GMT
There's not much I agree with here. The differences between men and women (outside of basic physiological differences) are largely dictated by society. Men feel the need to protect and provide because they are raised with those expectations. Men aren't generally affectionate because they are raised to believe that emotions = female = weakness. My ego/needs are not dictated by my gender because the expectations and limits placed on me by my parents were not gender-based. Thank you for saying what I was struggling to put into words.
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Post by *leslie* on Feb 20, 2017 20:02:48 GMT
Ugh, the idea that women are exactly like men in every way and men are exactly like women in every way except for differential genitals is ridiculous.
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