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Post by annabella on Mar 1, 2017 21:38:49 GMT
"Genevieve, like thousands of other Christians nationwide, got her ashes on this Ash Wednesday with a side of sparkles. The Glitter Ash project, created by New York nonprofit Parity, encouraged clergy to mix glitter into the ashes this year, to represent the inclusion of LGBT people in Christian life." StoryI remember at my first job people would duck out at lunch to go to a nearby church to get their ashes. Now you can get it outside the subway station on your way to work at an “ashes to go” station! lol
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Mar 1, 2017 21:46:10 GMT
"Genevieve, like thousands of other Christians nationwide, got her ashes on this Ash Wednesday with a side of sparkles. The Glitter Ash project, created by New York nonprofit Parity, encouraged clergy to mix glitter into the ashes this year, to represent the inclusion of LGBT people in Christian life." StoryI remember at my first job people would duck out at lunch to go to a nearby church to get their ashes. Now you can get it outside the subway station on your way to work at an “ashes to go” station! lol At one of the busy intersections on my way into work, there is often a clergyman standing, waiting to run over to you during a red light. (Invited, of course, he's not harassing drivers or anything.)
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Post by hop2 on Mar 1, 2017 21:46:38 GMT
Are 'ashes to go' on a street corner 'real'? I mean does it count? Are there priests doing it. I remember a service went with it too?
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 1, 2017 22:51:19 GMT
I went to Catholic Mass at noon and got ashes. My priest told me he gave ashes to the Protestant chaplains to give out to people who want it. My friend and I told him we only get Catholic ashes and he laughed at us. So do they count? I guess it depends who you ask!
However, glitter ashes are right up my alley any day all day, and not for LGBT but that's as good a reason as any.
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Post by marysue63 on Mar 1, 2017 23:34:04 GMT
I tried to convince my pastor to add glitter to our ashes but he said the old ladies wouldn't like it!
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Post by littlemama on Mar 2, 2017 1:13:59 GMT
I went to Catholic Mass at noon and got ashes. My priest told me he gave ashes to the Protestant chaplains to give out to people who want it. My friend and I told him we only get Catholic ashes and he laughed at us. So do they count? I guess it depends who you ask! However, glitter ashes are right up my alley any day all day, and not for LGBT but that's as good a reason as any. Why would the Catholic priest need to give ashes to the Protestant chaplains? Protestants observe Ash Wednesday and Lent and have their own ashes, etc.
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Post by laureljean on Mar 2, 2017 1:16:44 GMT
I miss getting ashes. I really need to go back to church.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on Mar 2, 2017 2:01:50 GMT
You know, sometimes I wonder what kind of rock I live under. I never knew about this ash business at all. I'm not Catholic (my family is) but it seems like something I should have come across before. Oh well, I have learned something new today
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 2, 2017 2:05:55 GMT
You know, sometimes I wonder what kind of rock I live under. I never knew about this ash business at all. I'm not Catholic (my family is) but it seems like something I should have come across before. Oh well, I have learned something new today I'd heard of it but thought it was supposed to be some kind of serious thing. I get the message, but adding glitter seems weird. Like thousands of years of traditions, and you add glitter now?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 2, 2017 2:41:32 GMT
I was driving out and about today and saw a sign at a church for "drive thru ashes & prayer"!
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Post by gina on Mar 2, 2017 2:50:00 GMT
My kids and I are Catholic and we went to get ashes today at 4pm. My church does two ashes services (so a short homily) at 12 and 4pm and a few (I think it is 3) full masses throughout the day. Anyway, my son was purposely tripped in school today and his brand new Nike eye glass case broke. I was LIVID when he came home and promptly e-mailed the teacher & dean. I also curse like a sailor (No, NOT in my well-mannered e-mail! ha ha) but on my FB post because, kids can be f*cking assholes and I was over it. Long story short, we went to get ashes at 4pm and I felt better after. I posted this picture on FB with the caption: The Millers just returned from getting ashes because lawd knows I need Jesus today! 😂 #JesusTakeTheWheel
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 2, 2017 3:08:44 GMT
Why would the Catholic priest need to give ashes to the Protestant chaplains? Protestants observe Ash Wednesday and Lent and have their own ashes, etc. Not all Protestant churches observe Lent or do Ash Wednesday. Unless things have changed in the past 40 years (entirely possible), I know the Baptist church didn't. I'm pretty sure I'd remember since my mom was the church secretary and we were there every time the doors opened. I'm now a good Episcopalian and attend on Easter and Christmas Eve. I figure I spent enough time in a pew as a child to carry forward for quite a while! I was wrapped up with this remodel all day and wasn't able to get away. Should have found one of those churches with 'drive through ashes & prayers'.
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Post by monklady123 on Mar 2, 2017 3:10:42 GMT
Are 'ashes to go' on a street corner 'real'? I mean does it count? Are there priests doing it. I remember a service went with it too? Does it "count" for what? And many of the ones out on the streets are Protestant ministers, not Catholic priests. Why would the Catholic priest need to give ashes to the Protestant chaplains? Protestants observe Ash Wednesday and Lent and have their own ashes, etc. I was wondering the same thing. We -- my church -- always burn our palms from Palm Sunday, to make the ashes for Ash Wednesday.
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Post by bc2ca on Mar 2, 2017 8:39:37 GMT
Growing up I always thought ashes were for Catholics only. It was never part of my Anglican (Episcolpalian/Church of England) teachings.
I was in a very long meeting today and left exhausted with another participant who saw someone with ashes and said "ugh, now I have to go to church". It was a funny, but you had to be there I think. It did make me wonder if she had to go to a service or just stop by the church.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 11:31:56 GMT
Growing up I always thought ashes were for Catholics only. It was never part of my Anglican (Episcolpalian/Church of England) teachings. I was in a very long meeting today and left exhausted with another participant who saw someone with ashes and said "ugh, now I have to go to church". It was a funny, but you had to be there I think. It did make me wonder if she had to go to a service or just stop by the church. It is part of the Church of England within the service held on Ash Wednesday. You can choose to receive ashes or you can say a silent prayer in penance if you so wish, but the ashes is part of the service. Although both are members of the Anglican community there is some difference in the beliefs and traditions between the Episcopal Church and the Church of England. No one stands on street corners here offering ashes, well at least I've never come across anyone doing so. I have to admit, I find it a bit disrespectful to add glitter to such a solemn occasion/service. You don't need glitter to support the LGBTQ, the support comes from ones own day to day actions and attitude towards others whether it is the LGBTQ community or anyone else.
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 2, 2017 12:21:52 GMT
I went to Catholic Mass at noon and got ashes. My priest told me he gave ashes to the Protestant chaplains to give out to people who want it. My friend and I told him we only get Catholic ashes and he laughed at us. So do they count? I guess it depends who you ask! However, glitter ashes are right up my alley any day all day, and not for LGBT but that's as good a reason as any. Why would the Catholic priest need to give ashes to the Protestant chaplains? Protestants observe Ash Wednesday and Lent and have their own ashes, etc. They didn't have any and asked him if they could have some. I'm sure for the most part Protestant chaplains usually have their own supply.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Mar 2, 2017 12:41:07 GMT
Growing up in the Lutheran tradition, we had Ash Wednesday services, but no actual ashes.
My current Protestant church doesn't have a service on that day.
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Post by RosieKat on Mar 2, 2017 12:51:52 GMT
I don't like it for the simple reason that part of the symbolism of the ashes is that we all came from the same place and we will all return to the same place. That includes everyone, none of us being more important in the end than anyone else.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 2, 2017 12:56:30 GMT
I find it a bit disrespectful to add glitter to such a solemn occasion/service. You don't need glitter to support the LGBTQ, the support comes from ones own day to day actions and attitude towards others whether it is the LGBTQ community or anyone else. I agree that the glitter seems disrespectful. Doctrinally, Ash Wednesday ushers in forty days of preparation; the theme is repentance and sacrifice. In my (Catholic) experience, getting ashes was accompanied by the words "Remember, man, that you are dust, and to dust you shall return," a pretty stark reminder of the universality of the human condition. We all return to dirt. Adding glitter just seems weird. However, being lapsed, I have no vote (not that I ever did!) and being LGBT-friendly, I applaud the intention. I just think it would be more appropriate inserted into a different type of ritual. ETA: Heh. I'm a slowpoke writer and RosieKat said it pithier-and-better.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 2, 2017 13:09:57 GMT
I no longer practice so no dog in this fight.
I find the act of having priests or clergy on the street corners more appealing then adding glitter. Most churches need to embrace diversity.
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Post by ginacivey on Mar 2, 2017 13:26:20 GMT
You know, sometimes I wonder what kind of rock I live under. I never knew about this ash business at all. I'm not Catholic (my family is) but it seems like something I should have come across before. Oh well, I have learned something new today did you also know that the ashes come from the burning of the palms from last Palm Sunday? I'm sure for the most part Protestant chaplains usually have their own supply. where do the ashes in Protestant services come from? gina
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Post by kristi521 on Mar 2, 2017 13:28:52 GMT
Growing up in the Lutheran tradition, we had Ash Wednesday services, but no actual ashes. My current Protestant church doesn't have a service on that day. I am Lutheran too and grew up with no ashes as well. I ran into a Lutheran friend today and she had ashes on so I guess some do.
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Post by auntkelly on Mar 2, 2017 13:45:43 GMT
I was raised a Baptist and we did not observe Ash Wednesday, although we did have activities at the church every Wednesday.
I have attended the Catholic Church with my husband for almost 28 years, but I have never converted. I love the symbolism of Ash Wednesday and always go down to get the Ashes. i think it is a beautiful ceremony and a great reminder of how short our time here on earth Is.
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Post by littlemama on Mar 2, 2017 13:46:34 GMT
Why would the Catholic priest need to give ashes to the Protestant chaplains? Protestants observe Ash Wednesday and Lent and have their own ashes, etc. Not all Protestant churches observe Lent or do Ash Wednesday. Unless things have changed in the past 40 years (entirely possible), I know the Baptist church didn't. I'm pretty sure I'd remember since my mom was the church secretary and we were there every time the doors opened. I'm now a good Episcopalian and attend on Easter and Christmas Eve. I figure I spent enough time in a pew as a child to carry forward for quite a while! I was wrapped up with this remodel all day and wasn't able to get away. Should have found one of those churches with 'drive through ashes & prayers'. Be that as it may, the ones that do would burn their own Palm fronds, not get them from a Catholic priest. It just struck me as odd, that's all.
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Post by littlemama on Mar 2, 2017 13:47:17 GMT
Growing up in the Lutheran tradition, we had Ash Wednesday services, but no actual ashes. My current Protestant church doesn't have a service on that day. I am Lutheran too and grew up with no ashes as well. I ran into a Lutheran friend today and she had ashes on so I guess some do. I am Lutheran and we do ashes and a service. (Missouri Synod)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 14:19:01 GMT
where do the ashes in Protestant services come from? gina From the burning of the previous year palms. Not directed at you Gina but other posts in this thread. I find it odd when some say that some Protestant churches do not observe Lent. I've never heard of a Christian church not recognizing the 40 days that Jesus spent in the wilderness. Or do you mean that they don't mark it in any particular way?
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Post by kristi521 on Mar 2, 2017 14:26:17 GMT
I am Lutheran too and grew up with no ashes as well. I ran into a Lutheran friend today and she had ashes on so I guess some do. I am Lutheran and we do ashes and a service. (Missouri Synod) Missouri Synod here as well. I guess it just varies from church to church
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Post by Mystie on Mar 2, 2017 14:28:05 GMT
Growing up I always thought ashes were for Catholics only. It was never part of my Anglican (Episcolpalian/Church of England) teachings. I was in a very long meeting today and left exhausted with another participant who saw someone with ashes and said "ugh, now I have to go to church". It was a funny, but you had to be there I think. It did make me wonder if she had to go to a service or just stop by the church. It is part of the Church of England within the service held on Ash Wednesday. You can choose to receive ashes or you can say a silent prayer in penance if you so wish, but the ashes is part of the service. Although both are members of the Anglican community there is some difference in the beliefs and traditions between the Episcopal Church and the Church of England. No one stands on street corners here offering ashes, well at least I've never come across anyone doing so. I have to admit, I find it a bit disrespectful to add glitter to such a solemn occasion/service. You don't need glitter to support the LGBTQ, the support comes from ones own day to day actions and attitude towards others whether it is the LGBTQ community or anyone else. I don't even go to a church that does ashes, but I agree that it seems disrespectful and flippant to add glitter to them. There are plenty of other meaningful ways to include LGBTQ people in the church.
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Post by ginacivey on Mar 2, 2017 14:43:12 GMT
From the burning of the previous year palms. Not directed at you Gina but other posts in this thread. i didn't realize that Protestant churches had palm sundays services and used palm fronds questions is how we learn gina
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Post by myboysnme on Mar 2, 2017 14:58:40 GMT
You know, sometimes I wonder what kind of rock I live under. I never knew about this ash business at all. I'm not Catholic (my family is) but it seems like something I should have come across before. Oh well, I have learned something new today did you also know that the ashes come from the burning of the palms from last Palm Sunday? I'm sure for the most part Protestant chaplains usually have their own supply. where do the ashes in Protestant services come from? gina I'm thinking the palms from palm Sunday the year before. That's where the Catholic ones come from.
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