FurryP
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Post by FurryP on Apr 16, 2017 1:44:44 GMT
I am. I think to myself, who would ever think there is drama in scrapbooking? The people I tell in person look at me like I have two heads. I am just amazed how much there is. Personally I find it entertaining. And when I get tired of it, I just stop reading. For instance, that Studio Calico thread is one long drama-fest. Obviously people read it, even if they aren't posting. So how about you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 1:47:10 GMT
I like a little, too. Nothing too heavy.
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Post by mikklynn on Apr 16, 2017 2:12:51 GMT
I am amazed how much people care about scrapbook designers personal lives.
I admit to looking at the Studio Calico thread occasionally, because it is entertaining. I don't know why former or current subscribers don't just cut their losses and stop buying from SC.
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Post by 950nancy on Apr 16, 2017 2:19:00 GMT
If I stumble upon it, I'll watch/read it. I don't generally go looking it though. Why, do you have some? ETA: I should add that I live with three adult males who hate drama and a team at work (two other people) who are just as nice as can be. My life is really drama free. I also avoid reality tv like the plague.
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Post by pancakes on Apr 16, 2017 2:48:37 GMT
I'm not a fan. I'm fine with a place to commiserate with other scrapers who are in the same boat, but I am not fond of people who start drama or go out of their way to deliver gossip. I get that once in awhile, everyone cracks but there are definitely folks (saying generally) who continually love starting fires and fueling them.
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Post by grammadee on Apr 16, 2017 3:27:22 GMT
I like this Scrapbooking & Papercrafting forum because it is relatively free of drama. For the most part, I seek peace.
I have met very few sb celebrities, and those people seemed like very likable people.
When I buy products--especially on line--I don't think of it as a personal relationship: it is all about the product and the service. If either is not up to what I think I should be able to expect, I don't deal with that company again. I haven't asked for much extra from sb companies, but when I had something that didn't work (my Sizzix Vagabond and a Taylored Expressions die), I was treated with respect and my problem was resolved.
If I felt I had been badly treated I would be angry and tell someone--probably anyone who would listen--but then decide to move on; just never shop there or belong to that club again.
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Chinagirl828
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Post by Chinagirl828 on Apr 16, 2017 4:49:30 GMT
I totally lurk on that SC thread and I followed some of the dramas on the old 2peas (like HOFgate and the Donna Downey saga). My everyday life is relatively drama free and I don't really watch much tv so I think of this as just my version of a bad soap opera.
I will say though, sometimes following the drama shapes my opinions on which businesses to support or avoid or ensures that if I do choose to do business with someone like SC my eyes are open to the risks going in.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Apr 16, 2017 6:00:04 GMT
Yep. It is the new fluff for me. It used to be tmz and the like, but it is full of so many death posts and real news (politics, terror attacks, school shootings, etc) that it no longer provides the fluff I prefer to read. There is just too much bad and the drama over things that are (on a worldly scale) relatively inconsiquential but related to my hobby helps to fill that void. It is getting harder and harder to avoid real news...my heart just can't handle it these days.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 16, 2017 6:33:23 GMT
Not really. I don't really care about scrap celebrities or what they do. I don't understand why people support a business they bash or know has horrible customer service. But I also don't watch reality TV shows either I will follow the misti legal stuff because I want a Tonic stamp positioner.
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Post by JaneB on Apr 16, 2017 7:06:47 GMT
Sometimes I think the drama can be informative. It can prevent us getting stung by bad service, bad product etc. It's a bit like online reviews: I can weigh up the good and bad and decide if I want to buy or not.
As far as the older dramas, like competitions where people didn't exactly follow the rules. If others are no one should be allowed to circumvent them and be praised.
When it comes to people in general I make up my own mind whether I like them, follow them etc. Treat others as you'd like to be treated and all that.
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Post by carolynhasacat on Apr 16, 2017 10:30:51 GMT
Sometimes. I tire of it quickly, though. I'm not really interested in celebrity, but I do follow the drama of some of the businesses and find that interesting.
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Post by dasmith2 on Apr 16, 2017 11:13:18 GMT
If its scrap related...somewhat if it has to do with a product. Take the stamp positioner threads for instance, seeing that owners behavior(Sweet Petunia). on this board threatening others- I would not buy from her. Scrap Celebrities private lives.. nope not interested.
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msliz
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Post by msliz on Apr 16, 2017 12:24:19 GMT
... seeing that owners behavior(Sweet Petunia). on this board threatening others- ... Shoot, I missed that. Could you link it? I guess it goes without saying that I'm entertained by the drama. I don't encourage it, online or IRL, and I never like to see someone's feelings hurt. Some people just have very wrong ideas about how to run their businesses, and it's a bit of a shock to them when their customer base speaks up. But anyway, if it's happening I like to know about it. I don't watch tv much, and I'm not into reading fiction, so this is as wild as it gets for me, LOL. ETA, thanks dasmith2 , I saw your link on the other thread. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 14:41:05 GMT
I wouldn't say I'm "entertained" by it but I am definitely fascinated by it. The whole psychology around why people behave the way they do is very interesting to me. I have learned a lot by watching certain things unfold. In my own life I am drama free. Can't stand it really and avoid it like the plague.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 16, 2017 15:23:20 GMT
I love some good occasional drama. Admittedly, the most recent drama I recall was with Tracey and her defense of Becky Higgins. Too bad it ended in a hair flip because it's not good when people leave the board. But I like to see people step up and speak out sometimes.
I like drama that is short lived but good back and forth. I admit it.
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Post by GiantsFan on Apr 16, 2017 15:31:25 GMT
My life is fairly drama free, so I read threads for the entertainment value, but only up to when they start getting mean and nasty and then I'm done (think NSBR!).
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Post by cindyupnorth on Apr 16, 2017 15:40:24 GMT
I love drama. Ha. Maybe because my life is so boring. I just started coming back to the sb section here. So I have missed most of the sb drama. I'm over on the NSBR board more, where drama abounds. So what is the Studio calico drama? and the Petunia drama? links please!
The latest sb drama I can remember was the old 2Ps owners shutting down the boards, and then disappearing, and now apparently they are some genX lifestylers, or something. eyeroll
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Apr 16, 2017 17:00:16 GMT
I will say though, sometimes following the drama shapes my opinions on which businesses to support or avoid or ensures that if I do choose to do business with someone like SC my eyes are open to the risks going in. ^^^ that. I am somewhat embarrassed to say that I sometimes did like reading about the dramas, like Birdgate, some of the plagiarism scandals with people's designs being copied almost exactly, etc. because I guess I find it amusing that something so seemingly 'ordinary' as scrapbooking would even HAVE dramas, but to those people, it's their livelihood, so it shouldn't be surprising. I do think some of the designers / scrap celebs take themselves way too seriously, but then again, to them, it's their business / image / livelihood. I think the industry in general makes way too much out of those 'scrap celebs' because I can't think of any other industry that does the same thing to such a degree- obsessing over their personal lives, etc. (but then again, scrap designers put their stuff out there on the internet, so perhaps they should expect some of it.) I don't read the SC thread any more, but used to occasionally. Mostly to kind of shake my head in disbelief that people would STILL choose to support a company with such a poor track record of customer service.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Apr 16, 2017 19:28:33 GMT
I'm pretty drama free IRL. That being said I participate on the SC thread because 5 or 6 years ago I was chased off of the old 2p's board by Caz Hancock and her minions for complaining about how awful SC CS was to me. Now I admittedly love the drama that still pops up with SC even though I stopped spending my money with them years ago.
The My Sweet Petunia thing got to me because I was thisclose to ordering a Misti, came here to do research and saw how that awful woman talked to some people. Plus there were a few people who had defective Mistis that couldn't get a new product or a refund. Now I'm just following to see when the TH platform is released.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 19:37:59 GMT
I'm not sure entertaining is the right word for me, but it's certainly an education to read the threads here. Being relatively new to scrapbooking, I have no clue about the history of the companies or who's done what... and you certainly get to hear honest perspectives here; which can be really useful when you want to hear it like it is about products and things.
I haven't read all of the Studio Calico thread but I do dip in now and then as it seems to be where people are most frank about stuff.
I'm always fascinated by the breadth and strength of opinions too... but then when you care about something, you feel things strongly, right? And it's good to know that people really care, especially when there's so much talk about this industry being on the wane.
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Post by refugeepea on Apr 16, 2017 19:45:16 GMT
When it has more to do with the product than the person. Like a recent thread about Teresa Collin's appearance seemed to get catty with some responses.
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Post by LisaDV on Apr 16, 2017 20:13:16 GMT
I was totally ready to say "yes, entertain me". But while reading through this thread so many things were mentioned that I had no idea about. I did remember the Tracey/Becky thing. I blame it on not having enough time though and not a lack of interest in being entertained.
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Post by loco coco on Apr 16, 2017 20:14:19 GMT
I read it and yes it forms my opinions about some of the companies/designers
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Post by FurryP on Apr 16, 2017 22:01:39 GMT
^^^ I am somewhat embarrassed to say that I sometimes did like reading about the dramas, like Birdgate, some of the plagiarism scandals with people's designs being copied almost exactly, etc. because I guess I find it amusing that something so seemingly 'ordinary' as scrapbooking would even HAVE dramas, but to YES! I find it fascinating that kind of drama is in crafting. Although, I am not embarrassed. I am a reader by nature, so this is is kind of like reading a book, except it happens to be real. I don't go looking for it, it just happens where I happen to be most of the time. I am amazed how much people care about scrapbook designers personal lives. I am amazed how much energy people spend on complete strangers on the internet, period. Recently I stumbled upon a message board where these women were worse than rabid animals, spewing their mean-ness on a small youtube mom vlogger. Their only defense was that their board was not a vicious as another board. It is a board to talk about youtubers, so they don't have to say anything on the youtuber channel, so not to upset the fans. How generous of them! I agree. I am not into the drama about beating up on people, personally. It's about products and the people that happen to be related to them. Or how they act in public related to scrapbooking. I could not care less who is getting divorced, or who filed for bankruptcy, etc.
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msliz
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Post by msliz on Apr 16, 2017 22:05:07 GMT
... 5 or 6 years ago I was chased off of the old 2p's board by Caz Hancock and her minions for complaining about how awful SC CS was to me. I don't remember that name. Was this on the Pub board? Those women scared the crap out of me. NSBR was so tame in comparison.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Apr 16, 2017 22:11:30 GMT
If its scrap related...somewhat if it has to do with a product. Take the stamp positioner threads for instance, seeing that owners behavior(Sweet Petunia). on this board threatening others- I would not buy from her. Scrap Celebrities private lives.. nope not interested. You said it better than I did
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Post by papersilly on Apr 16, 2017 22:15:41 GMT
To me, SB drama is the same as any drama in life. It's no more scintillating.
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Post by myboysnme on Apr 16, 2017 22:20:48 GMT
That MISTI thread is one more reason that I want Stamping combined with GS. I missed all of that drama and I would love to follow that.
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scrappyesq
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Post by scrappyesq on Apr 16, 2017 23:30:42 GMT
... 5 or 6 years ago I was chased off of the old 2p's board by Caz Hancock and her minions for complaining about how awful SC CS was to me. I don't remember that name. Was this on the Pub board? Those women scared the crap out of me. NSBR was so tame in comparison.
It was on the scrap boards. I remember her name because she actually PM'd me pissed because I referred to her and a few others as SC fangirls. Anytime anyone said anything bad about SC she was the first handslapper. No matter how useless an item was. They could have sent her a turd in the mail and her response would have been "I could totally use this on a layout. You guys are the best!!!!! "
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Post by nicolep on Apr 17, 2017 13:26:03 GMT
Hi @susefish! Good to *see* you. Life is so stressful as it is. I don't have time nor do I care enough about scrappy drama let alone everyday drama. I walk away. Having said that, I will steer clear of a shop or supporting someone with poor business ethics or poor customer service but that goes with anywhere, not just my hobby. Playing with photos and papers is my peace, my enjoyment and a sort of therapy when life seems to get overwhelming. I don't need bickering etc to infiltrate it.
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