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Post by annabella on Apr 19, 2017 15:20:25 GMT
He lived a double life. In addition to his mansion, he rented a second apt where he kept all his guns. After he went to jail he got gang tattoos.
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Post by BoilerUp! on Apr 19, 2017 15:40:12 GMT
I'd never heard of him and had to google. What was the motive for the murder he committed? Pure arrogance and stupidity I feel terrible for his daughter. She deserved better than what she has been dealt having him as a father.
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 19, 2017 15:45:36 GMT
I said back when he was arrested, I have never been so disappointed in an athlete in my life. I followed him since his days at Florida. He was such an incredible talent and was given the world... and he threw it all away. Such a waste. I'm so sad over the whole thing. I'm having a hard time believing he did it he killed himself; he was just acquitted of the double homicides and was awaiting appeal for the earlier conviction - he had hope. I feel like someone was upset about the acquittal and took him out.
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Post by annabella on Apr 19, 2017 15:47:03 GMT
I'm having a hard time believing he did it; he was just acquitted of the double homicides and was awaiting appeal for the earlier conviction - he had hope. I feel like someone was upset about the acquittal and took him out. Wiki said he was involved in 4 shooting incidences, but only 2 went to trial. Where there's smoke there's fire.
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 19, 2017 15:50:28 GMT
I'm having a hard time believing he did it; he was just acquitted of the double homicides and was awaiting appeal for the earlier conviction - he had hope. I feel like someone was upset about the acquittal and took him out. Wiki said he was involved in 4 shooting incidences, but only 2 went to trial. Where there's smoke there's fire. No no... I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant I have a hard time believing he took his own life. I'll edit my post to make it more clear. ETA - I absolutely believe he was guilty of the murders. SaveSave
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Post by giatocj on Apr 19, 2017 16:16:57 GMT
The Boston Globe is reporting that Hernandez's suicide protects his estate against civil litigation. So that may be why he did it though to hear his lawyer talk he had no money left. Not like he saw a dime of the $40M contract he had signed just before he killed Lloyd. His mansion in Attleboro was sold to pay for the Odin Lloyd trial. How the heck did he pay Baez for this last trial? I think he got a million dollar (or so) signing bonus for the $ 40 million contract, but that money has to be LONG gone. Such a waste of so many lives.
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Post by KelleeM on Apr 19, 2017 16:20:33 GMT
The poster child for having it all and losing everything. don't know why I'm kind of sad about it. Exactly. His second trial just ended last week and I wonder if he waited so he could see his family while the trial was going on...or maybe it reminded him of what he destroyed.
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Post by huskergal on Apr 19, 2017 16:25:39 GMT
This was my reply to a post on Facebook. You'll be able to tell my full feelings on the matter from it... Facebook post: I live in MA and I'm glad that my taxes can now go to something more worthwhile...like maybe fixing potholes...because this POS chose to take the coward's way out of his well deserved prison sentence. But my heart goes out to his daughter and the family of Odin Lloyd (and his other victims). Just to be clear, I do NOT think that all suicides are cowardly...far from it. I lost a young nephew to it. But in cases like Hernandez, he couldn't man up and serve his time, so he phoned it in at the end of a sheet. That's a coward. I agree 100%!
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Post by jennyap on Apr 19, 2017 16:29:33 GMT
I think he got a million dollar (or so) signing bonus for the $ 40 million contract, but that money has to be LONG gone. $12.5m in fact
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Post by papersilly on Apr 19, 2017 16:42:00 GMT
The Boston Globe is reporting that Hernandez's suicide protects his estate against civil litigation. So that may be why he did it though to hear his lawyer talk he had no money left. Not like he saw a dime of the $40M contract he had signed just before he killed Lloyd. this is exactly what i told DH when we learned about his death. i think he was sparing his family from the lawsuits. if he was never going to get out and he could never contribute to their support, he probably thought at least he could spare them from further civil exposure. he probably thought if he was gone, his girlfriend and child have a good chance of moving on with their lives instead of being tied to him forever.
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Post by PaperAngel on Apr 19, 2017 16:42:08 GMT
I said back when he was arrested, I have never been so disappointed in an athlete in my life. I followed him since his days at Florida. He was such an incredible talent and was given the world... and he threw it all away. Such a waste. I'm so sad over the whole thing. I'm having a hard time believing he did it he killed himself; he was just acquitted of the double homicides and was awaiting appeal for the earlier conviction - he had hope. I feel like someone was upset about the acquittal and took him out. Although never a fan, I agree that suicide itself, its timing, & a lack of note or previous indicators seem out of character.
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Post by bc2ca on Apr 19, 2017 17:08:18 GMT
Wiki said he was involved in 4 shooting incidences, but only 2 went to trial. Where there's smoke there's fire. No no... I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant I have a hard time believing he took his own life. I'll edit my post to make it more clear. ETA - I absolutely believe he was guilty of the murders. SaveSaveFrom what I read he wedged something at the door making it difficult for guards to get into his cell. If this is true, I think it is more likely he did take his own life rather than someone else being involved. Such a sad life story. SaveSave
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Post by giatocj on Apr 19, 2017 17:18:47 GMT
I think he got a million dollar (or so) signing bonus for the $ 40 million contract, but that money has to be LONG gone. $12.5m in fact Crazy!!! Wasn't that money well spent??🙄🙄
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Post by lurkingsince2001 on Apr 19, 2017 17:24:46 GMT
I think that it happened on the evening before the Patriots were going to the White House to be congratulated for winning the Super Bowl is telling. All that he threw away must have finally hit home. I wondered about that myself. Otherwise it seems strange to do it right after being acquitted. Yes, he was still in jail, but his lawyers were already moving on getting the other conviction appealed. Perhaps he was tired of the circus or decided not to expose his daughter to any more. If he didn't leave a note, we'll likely never know. And there's always the possibility it wasn't suicide but I'd imagine there will be close scrutiny and several investigations into it.
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Post by annabella on Apr 19, 2017 17:26:29 GMT
i think he was sparing his family from the lawsuits. if he was never going to get out and he could never contribute to their support, he probably thought at least he could spare them from further civil exposure. he probably thought if he was gone, his girlfriend and child have a good chance of moving on with their lives instead of being tied to him forever. I don't think he was that thoughtful. I think it got too tough in prison. He was arrogant enough to think he would get out.
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Post by papersilly on Apr 19, 2017 17:35:13 GMT
I said back when he was arrested, I have never been so disappointed in an athlete in my life. I followed him since his days at Florida. He was such an incredible talent and was given the world... and he threw it all away. Such a waste. I'm so sad over the whole thing. I'm having a hard time believing he did it he killed himself; he was just acquitted of the double homicides and was awaiting appeal for the earlier conviction - he had hope. I feel like someone was upset about the acquittal and took him out. Although never a fan, I agree that suicide itself, its timing, & a lack of note or previous indicators seem out of character. i would agree with this except for the fact that it's reported that he wedged something in the door to prevent the guards from entering. if he was murdered (as his attorney claims), how do you wedge a door and still get out with the wedge in place? also, i read another report where it said his demeanor had changed at this recent trial. he was more talkative, expressive and interactive. some would say that's that's counter to someone getting ready to kill himself. however, others have said that when people are resigned to suicide, they become resolved, almost at peace with their decision. they act "happy" or "normal" just shortly before their death and that's why people are shocked that they killed themselves.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Apr 19, 2017 17:52:25 GMT
He lived a double life. In addition to his mansion, he rented a second apt where he kept all his guns. After he went to jail he got gang tattoos. I don't think that's true. He had the tatts when he was playing for Florida. There was gossip that he was still into gang activity when he played at Florida but Urban Meyer kept it covered up.
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Post by kimpossible on Apr 19, 2017 18:27:50 GMT
Don't care. Surprised his wife stayed with him. Fiancée not wife. And she's a piece of work herself.
I was surprised to just learn his fiance' is the sister to the fiance' of the guy he was convicted of murdering! Seems her staying with him is even more whacked.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Apr 19, 2017 19:26:10 GMT
The Boston Globe is reporting that Hernandez's suicide protects his estate against civil litigation. So that may be why he did it though to hear his lawyer talk he had no money left. Not like he saw a dime of the $40M contract he had signed just before he killed Lloyd. His mansion in Attleboro was sold to pay for the Odin Lloyd trial. How the heck did he pay Baez for this last trial? I think he got a million dollar (or so) signing bonus for the $ 40 million contract, but that money has to be LONG gone. Such a waste of so many lives. His lawyer said he's got nothing left. That "his supporters" would have to contribute to an appeal fund if they wanted this guy to handle the appeal.
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Post by tracylynn on Apr 19, 2017 19:26:28 GMT
Apparently because they were still in the appeal process of his first murder trial, he technically died an innocent man. Everything gets thrown out since the appeal process wasn't complete yet. That's what protects his estate/family from civil suits. The murder of Lloyd is now wiped from his record. It's pretty disgusting really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 20:04:18 GMT
Apparently because they were still in the appeal process of his first murder trial, he technically died an innocent man. Everything gets thrown out since the appeal process wasn't complete yet. That's what protects his estate/family from civil suits. The murder of Lloyd is now wiped from his record. It's pretty disgusting really. Did he figure this out on his own? Did someone who knows the legal system let him in on this information? There's probably no way of knowing at this point, but it seems to me that someone else gave him the idea. Save
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Post by Rhondito on Apr 19, 2017 20:46:34 GMT
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Post by PaperAngel on Apr 19, 2017 21:19:01 GMT
Although never a fan, I agree that suicide itself, its timing, & a lack of note or previous indicators seem out of character. i would agree with this except for the fact that it's reported that he wedged something in the door to prevent the guards from entering. if he was murdered (as his attorney claims), how do you wedge a door and still get out with the wedge in place? also, i read another report where it said his demeanor had changed at this recent trial. he was more talkative, expressive and interactive. some would say that's that's counter to someone getting ready to kill himself. however, others have said that when people are resigned to suicide, they become resolved, almost at peace with their decision. they act "happy" or "normal" just shortly before their death and that's why people are shocked that they killed themselves. Please note that I'm not implying any foul play. Suicide just seems out of character for a person portrayed as a selfish/narcissistic/driven professional athlete, father, suspected gang member, & cold-blooded murderer (of his best friend & future brother-in-law whom Hernandez felt disrespected him by speaking to a person he disliked at a nightclub). Obviously there's more to him & his story...
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Post by papersilly on Apr 19, 2017 21:55:09 GMT
Please note that I'm not implying any foul play. Suicide just seems out of character for a person portrayed as a selfish/narcissistic/driven professional athlete, father, suspected gang member, & cold-blooded murderer (of his best friend & future brother-in-law whom Hernandez felt disrespected him by speaking to a person he disliked at a nightclub). Obviously there's more to him & his story... i totally get what you are saying. it's hard if not impossible to ever fully comprehend the what and why behind suicide. lots of times it just happens with no warning or note. i think many of us will speculate but we will never truly know. i doubt those closest to him will ever really know either. you are probably right---there is more to his story and the true and untrue will probably all unfold in the next few days.
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Post by kimpossible on Apr 19, 2017 22:00:32 GMT
It just keeps getting more and more bizarre!
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Post by threecs on Apr 19, 2017 23:38:09 GMT
There is more than one person on my FB feed who thinks Hernandez was murdered and it was set up to look like a suicide. Truly a bizarre story!
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Post by busy on Apr 19, 2017 23:42:41 GMT
People who murder others aren't mentally healthy and neither are people who commit suicide. I'm not surprised someone who could kill someone else could also kill themselves.
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Post by jesq on Apr 19, 2017 23:53:10 GMT
How would he write a bible verse on his own forehead?
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Post by itsmemom on Apr 20, 2017 0:48:33 GMT
Deadspin.com is now reporting he had written John 3:16 in red marker.
Edited to fix typo
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Post by queenbeeof3 on Apr 20, 2017 0:56:10 GMT
I wonder if he was afflicted with chronic traumatic encephalopathy?
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