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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 4:50:38 GMT
Did your family have STAFF, br] My mom and dad had a maid until I was born and they moved out to the middle of nowhere.
My father's family had a cook, an upstairs maid, a downstairs maid and a stable boy until Black Friday. I was in that house and you would not believe how tiny the servants quarters were and the tiny staircase that they had to use.
Editing to replace servant with staff.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 20, 2017 4:55:38 GMT
servants? uh... no.
Unless you count us kids, mowing the lawn, weeding the garden, and helping to clean the house on Saturdays!
eta: my mom and dad both grew up on farms and went to elementary school in one-room country schoolhouses; neither of their families was well-off enough to have servants.
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Post by freecharlie on May 20, 2017 4:56:10 GMT
Nope. We didn't have that kind of money.
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Post by paget on May 20, 2017 4:56:11 GMT
No. We never had any hired help. I've never even had maid service or house cleaners. I guess *I* am the servant...
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Post by myshelly on May 20, 2017 5:03:33 GMT
Who still says servants?
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Post by laureljean on May 20, 2017 5:10:11 GMT
Does a lawn service count?
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Post by inkedup on May 20, 2017 5:17:30 GMT
Nope. We didn't have much money growing up.
My roommate freshman year of college is from a very wealthy Egyptian family. She had no idea how to do laundry. "What is the blue stuff?" (It was laundry detergent.) she said she and her siblings would make their nannies (full time nanny for each child) do their homework if they didn't feel like doing it.
Many people live in servitude, even in this modern era. It's terrible.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on May 20, 2017 5:23:22 GMT
you know, I never asked my dad too much about his growing up on the farm. He was born in 1930 and was the oldest of 8 siblings. I'm guessing he did work on the farm, but not any 'taking care of' his younger siblings or any work around the house, because that wasn't something a boy would have done back at that time. I'm going back to visit them next month; I'll have to ask.
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Post by polz on May 20, 2017 5:23:45 GMT
We never had servants. My Mum was a housekeeper. Some of her customers treated her terribly. One would only let her use a small 3 inch square cloth to clean the toilet. My Mum tried to take her own rags once and this customer was enraged. She had to use that ladies rags or else lose that job. People with limited options don't really have a choice.
I went to school with a gal from India. Her Dad was a scientist. They had an aya (I think that's what it is). Basically, the aya's family were the servants of my friends family for generations. We live in New Zealand and when the Dad came here, it was just a give that the aya would come. I'm not sure how it all went down legally, but this woman never left their home. She was always cooking and cleaning and looking after the kids.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 6:33:38 GMT
I know a couple of families here that have help / servants /maids.
One is Richie rich rich. They had 2 nannies, yard people, a pool person, a cook and a maid They had a driver for the kids. As the kids got older. , they got rid of the nannies, and the driver when they kids started driving. Mom spent her days at the club playing tennis.
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Post by anniefb on May 20, 2017 6:49:04 GMT
My Dad's family had servants when he was growing up. He was practically raised by his nanny - apparently my grandmother wasn't very interested in kids. My mother's family didn't have live in servants, but they did have a cleaning lady who came a few times a week. I'd say that was pretty normal for the time and location - Vienna, Austria before WW2.
I worked in India for a few years and had a maid who came every day to clean and do the laundry. Again that's normal. Cooking, cleaning, washing could take nearly the whole day and I was there to work.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 7:18:26 GMT
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on May 20, 2017 7:18:49 GMT
I was born and raised in the colonies. British colonies. In Zambia we had housemen and gardeners galore. Our head houseman ruled certain aspects of my childhood with a rod of iron- school bags in the breezeway? Not tolerated. Uniforms not in the laundry? Trouble. He had the dignity of Downton's Mr Carson. His name was Jackson.
The guy in charge of the packing for camping & fishing? His name was Firewell. The kindest person you can imagine. One of my abiding regrets is that I never had the opportunity to say a final goodbye to these two men and a few others.
For 40 years plus I have lived in South Africa. I / we have staff. Some things have changed from the bad old days, some have become mega uncomfortable and some will never change. Big girl panties are on if anyone wants to ask Q's /hijack
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Post by gar on May 20, 2017 7:43:44 GMT
Strangely, no....
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Post by anniebygaslight on May 20, 2017 7:44:58 GMT
Erm...no. My great grandparents were housekeeper, cook, chauffeur and gardener, among other things.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on May 20, 2017 8:11:10 GMT
Brits at home have it hard, hey? Over in the colonies we made our lives easy. My British MIL acclimatised to the "system" over here in 2 seconds flat
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Post by gar on May 20, 2017 8:15:11 GMT
Brits at home have it hard, hey? Over in the colonies we made our lives easy. My British MIL acclimatised to the "system" over here in 2 seconds flat Yes, I feel strangely hard done by
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Post by craftykitten on May 20, 2017 8:51:07 GMT
Brits at home have it hard, hey? Over in the colonies we made our lives easy. My British MIL acclimatised to the "system" over here in 2 seconds flat Visiting DH's family in Cape Town, having a maid was the strangest feeling. I felt awkward. DH felt awkward. His family were (I felt) quite rude about this lady who came in to cook and clean. And it scared me how quickly I got used to the idea!! 😃
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 20, 2017 9:25:09 GMT
No.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on May 20, 2017 9:53:50 GMT
Brits at home have it hard, hey? Over in the colonies we made our lives easy. My British MIL acclimatised to the "system" over here in 2 seconds flat Visiting DH's family in Cape Town, having a maid was the strangest feeling. I felt awkward. DH felt awkward. His family were (I felt) quite rude about this lady who came in to cook and clean. And it scared me how quickly I got used to the idea!! 😃 Bless you for your honesty. Half of me is expecting to be called out for 50 years of racist exploitation. I hope my pea record will stand up to the test. What is that old saying (not unique to my country by any means) about a King and his valet? The rudeness you spoke of is, unfortunately, one of the things that may never change. In this era of "White Guilt" (see the "White privilege" thread and multiply by 100, 1000...) the shoe sometimes rests on the other foot, though; domestic workers often play the employer and frequently get away with it. A particularly interesting phenomenon is to be consulted by a wealthy Black client with a domestic worker "issue" and to discover that this is just a difficult relationship to navigate, whatever the race of the parties.
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Post by craftykitten on May 20, 2017 10:11:38 GMT
Visiting DH's family in Cape Town, having a maid was the strangest feeling. I felt awkward. DH felt awkward. His family were (I felt) quite rude about this lady who came in to cook and clean. And it scared me how quickly I got used to the idea!! 😃 Bless you for your honesty. Half of me is expecting to be called out for 50 years of racist exploitation. I hope my pea record will stand up to the test. What is that old saying (not unique to my country by any means) about a King and his valet? The rudeness you spoke of is, unfortunately, one of the things that may never change. In this era of "White Guilt" (see the "White privilege" thread and multiply by 100, 1000...) the shoe sometimes rests on the other foot, though; domestic workers often play the employer and frequently get away with it. A particularly interesting phenomenon is to be consulted by a wealthy Black client with a domestic worker "issue" and to discover that this is just a difficult relationship to navigate, whatever the race of the parties. It was the biggest eye opener for me in SA. That it is not just a black/white issue. That there is racism between blacks there was something I had never realised. And some of it is that people are people and you will get those who take advantage. And for white South Africans there is, as you say, so much guilt. Basically...i know nothing. I can't judge.
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Post by gypsymama on May 20, 2017 10:16:25 GMT
well my grandparents were sharecroppers... so... no
but my mom did hire a housekeeper once a week for a few years when i was growing up, she came in and cleaned while we were at school. i would think that's fairly common among the peas.
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Post by tracyarts on May 20, 2017 10:19:50 GMT
Not when I was growing up, but after my mom started getting older and having health issues she had a neighbor lady who provided part time housekeeping services come in a couple times a week to help her keep up her rigorous cleaning standards.
I dated a guy in college for my freshman year who grew up with a live in nanny/driver, and a live in maid/cook. It was strange being around this 18 year old man who'd never driven a car, never washed his own laundry, never prepared his own food, never balanced his own checkbook, and never cleaned his own room. He had a lot of struggles with being self-sufficient and functioning semi-independently in a dorm setting. He was also very, very sheltered and would become uneasy about being out in "the big bad city" whenever we went off-campus for a date.
I've had other college friends who grew up in homes with maids and nannies and cooks and drivers, but they seemed to embrace their independence and relish in their new domestic responsibilities after they left home.
Except for Michael, he lived in his own apartment but had a part time housekeeper, a grocery delivery service, and a laundry service. He liked living independently but wasn't having any of that tedious domestic shit.
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Post by joteves on May 20, 2017 11:01:38 GMT
Both my parents had live-in maids when they were growing up, this was normal for middle class families in Portugal. But they got married very young without any support from their families so my siblings and I didn't have anything like that when we were small. later on in my teens, my mum had a cleaning lady come in a few times a week to help out. Now that I have my own family, I hire a lady to clean the house once a week as I just can't cope with my full-time job and two kids. Of course, I still have to do a lot of cleaning and laundry and cooking, etc, but having some help is wonderful and I am so grateful that we can afford it.
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Post by worldwanderer75 on May 20, 2017 11:01:56 GMT
I think this is very, very cultural. I'm an American who lives overseas and the vast majority of people where I live have a household staff - many have upwards of 10+ employees to run their lives. Of course in the USA, mostly the ultra wealthy have true staff but that is certainly not true everywhere in the world. My kids orthodontist CAN NOT get over the fact that I have 4 kids and no nanny/maid. She is local and it is totally foreign to her that I wouldn't have help. I do have a gardener who takes care of my yard and a guy who cooks for me a couple times a month. It is so inexpensive to hire help that most people have some sort of help.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 20, 2017 11:18:36 GMT
We did not. My mom just took pride in raising us and keeping a nice home I guess.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on May 20, 2017 11:21:32 GMT
Ha! No.
My in-laws in India all have very well staffed homes. It seems weird and uncomfortable to me.
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Post by kibblesandbits on May 20, 2017 11:25:11 GMT
My mom had a cleaning lady every now and then when we were growing up. She came every week until we kids were old enough to take over chores. I've had a bi-monthly cleaning lady for the past 5 years. We parted company recently and I might, or I might not hire anyone else.
Not sure I'd call house help "servants". Sounds kinda colonial.
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Post by lilbit1va on May 20, 2017 11:46:27 GMT
We did have a full time maid and part time gardner when I was growing up in the 1950's until the 1970's. Mom was a school teacher and Dad was a plant supervisor working rotating shifts. There were 5 children so Mom could use the help especially if one of us was sick and needed to stay home. Our maid was like a second mom to us. As we got older we had chores we were responsible for doing. By the time we were teenagers our maid was only part time and then she had to retire after a bad car accident.
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Post by mikklynn on May 20, 2017 11:47:00 GMT
We had a college girl help my mom for about a month the summer my twin brothers were born. They were #5 & #6, so God bless her, she needed it!
Other than that, my dad thought WE kids were the help, LOL.
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