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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 7, 2017 14:23:19 GMT
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 7, 2017 14:28:47 GMT
Wow. I can't even believe he would go on television and think that is okay to say.
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huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Jun 7, 2017 14:30:34 GMT
He is an idiot!
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trollie
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Post by trollie on Jun 7, 2017 14:34:04 GMT
Well that's rich.
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Post by Dani-Mani on Jun 7, 2017 14:35:08 GMT
I hate he word Dems. I'm a registered democrat. I don't know what the hell a "Dem" is.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:01 GMT
"Morals have gone out the window"
God, how could he say that with a straight face?
This coming from a guy who pilfered money from kids with cancer and gave it to his dad!!
This coming from the idiot who hunts endangered animals for SPORT.
This coming from the child of a three time married, cheating, pussy grabbing, disability mocking, blowhard!
The stupid is strong in this one.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 7, 2017 14:58:11 GMT
It makes me sad and a little fearful that our top leaders really feel that the 50% of us on any given day that are of a different political party are viewed as enemies. What happened to liberty and justice for ALL? What happened to being the President of the UNITED STATES? Not just the ones who voted for you.
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 7, 2017 15:21:03 GMT
It makes me sad and a little fearful that our top leaders really feel that the 50% of us on any given day that are of a different political party are viewed as enemies. What happened to liberty and justice for ALL? What happened to being the President of the UNITED STATES? Not just the ones who voted for you.
I wouldn't qualify Eric as a top leader, but I get exactly what you mean. The fact too, that he said "They are 'obstructing OUR FAMILY'" screams conflict of interest and proof they are only in it for money. Trump ran to further his own agenda and bank account. Last I heard, being POTUS was a singular job, not a family business!
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Post by verdepea on Jun 7, 2017 15:23:36 GMT
Typical Trump Rhetoric. The three denials: Hillary, Obama, and the Dems. He won't even pronounce the party name, its part of the strategy to try dehumanize. They just rotate the three.
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scrapngranny
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 7, 2017 15:33:25 GMT
Eric is the definition of ignorant.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 7, 2017 15:35:20 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 7, 2017 15:36:16 GMT
It makes me sad and a little fearful that our top leaders really feel that the 50% of us on any given day that are of a different political party are viewed as enemies. What happened to liberty and justice for ALL? What happened to being the President of the UNITED STATES? Not just the ones who voted for you.
The rhetoric of this presidency has definitely been an enemies v allies. For those of us classed as subhuman enemies by the people in charge of the nation's arsenal, it's not a fun feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 15:36:48 GMT
Poor guy to have such low intelligence that he doesn't know the meaning of moral. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 7, 2017 15:39:10 GMT
Eric is the definition of ignorant. He is NOT ignorant. He knows better, as do they all. He has been educated to speak, act and think this way!!! They all have total disregard for the general public, us, the USA and the world!
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 7, 2017 15:56:06 GMT
It makes me sad and a little fearful that our top leaders really feel that the 50% of us on any given day that are of a different political party are viewed as enemies. What happened to liberty and justice for ALL? What happened to being the President of the UNITED STATES? Not just the ones who voted for you.
I agree! Among the many perplexing issues with this President is does not feel the need to be conciliatory toward the other party, or those who voted for other candidates. (Should toward been another word in that sentence? With, maybe?) I also think the opposing party should try harder to find middle ground too. But that's apparently and ideal goal, I know I have trouble getting through the day without gasping or yelling to myself about a Trump tweet, comment or decision. I used to think the Trump offspring somewhat educated or intelligent. The more we're exposed to them the more insulated and sheltered we discover they are. And ignorant, including Ivanka.
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Post by pyccku on Jun 7, 2017 15:56:09 GMT
"Not even people" is the first step in dehumanizing an enemy. The next step is intimidation. The final step is violence.
This is how genocides and holocausts start. Once you are able to see 'the others' as not even human, not even worth of human dignity - it becomes much easier to commit violence against them.
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Post by inkedup on Jun 7, 2017 16:02:03 GMT
We heard so much about Hillary's use of "deplorables" during the election. So much has been made of the disdain the "liberal elites" have for the working class white population.
And yet there is total silence from the right when our President refers to Americans who did not vote for him as enemies. There is blind support when his children (who are not exactly working class schmucks) say that half the country is sub-human.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 7, 2017 16:18:27 GMT
Eric is the definition of ignorant. He is NOT ignorant. He knows better, as do they all. He has been educated to speak, act and think this way!!! They all have total disregard for the general public, us, the USA and the world! I keep going back and forth. On the surface, I think it has to be ignorance to make statements like this, and then I think about how deliberate words can be used to undermine and demonize the other side. I lean to it's not even about knowing better, it's about saying and doing whatever they want to get the desired results. SaveSave
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jun 7, 2017 16:42:26 GMT
He is NOT ignorant. He knows better, as do they all. He has been educated to speak, act and think this way!!! They all have total disregard for the general public, us, the USA and the world! I keep going back and forth. On the surface, I think it has to be ignorance to make statements like this, and then I think about how deliberate words can be used to undermine and demonize the other side. I lean to it's not even about knowing better, it's about saying and doing whatever they want to get the desired results. SaveSaveThanks. I said it in the heat of the moment, well more like stewing about it. You said it better!!
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Post by grammadee on Jun 7, 2017 16:50:52 GMT
He is NOT ignorant. He knows better, as do they all. He has been educated to speak, act and think this way!!! They all have total disregard for the general public, us, the USA and the world! I keep going back and forth. On the surface, I think it has to be ignorance to make statements like this, and then I think about how deliberate words can be used to undermine and demonize the other side. I lean to it's not even about knowing better, it's about saying and doing whatever they want to get the desired results. SaveSaveI guess it falls into ONE of our definitions of IGNORANT: just not the one about innocently being uninformed!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 17:20:29 GMT
Arrogant and condescending is a more accurate description than ignorant. He's not ignorant of anything except perhaps of his own language.But he certainly has the opinion that he is far superior to those "dems" and definitely has an exaggerated sense of one's own importance.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 7, 2017 17:44:15 GMT
Ah...I see little Eric is being "helpful" again.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 7, 2017 18:07:29 GMT
"Not even people" is the first step in dehumanizing an enemy. The next step is intimidation. The final step is violence. This is how genocides and holocausts start. Once you are able to see 'the others' as not even human, not even worth of human dignity - it becomes much easier to commit violence against them. a thousand times
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Post by amom23 on Jun 7, 2017 18:20:39 GMT
Arrogant and condescending is a more accurate description than ignorant. He's not ignorant of anything except perhaps of his own language.But he certainly has the opinion that he is far superior to those "dems" and definitely has an exaggerated sense of one's own importance. I agree with you 100% - except I would have added a few more choice adjectives.
Perhaps the Trump family could lead by example when it comes to unifying our country. Eric and Don, Jr come off as total assholes. Time to leave their ivory towers and see the real USA.
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Post by pierogi on Jun 7, 2017 18:39:00 GMT
We heard so much about Hillary's use of "deplorables" during the election. So much has been made of the disdain the "liberal elites" have for the working class white population. And yet there is total silence from the right when our President refers to Americans who did not vote for him as enemies. There is blind support when his children (who are not exactly working class schmucks) say that half the country is sub-human. It's not like he did something *truly* awful, like turn off a TV with Fox News.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 7, 2017 19:40:55 GMT
I hate he word Dems. I'm a registered democrat. I don't know what the hell a "Dem" is. It's solely meant as an insult! I learned that here.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 7, 2017 19:43:23 GMT
It makes me sad and a little fearful that our top leaders really feel that the 50% of us on any given day that are of a different political party are viewed as enemies. What happened to liberty and justice for ALL? What happened to being the President of the UNITED STATES? Not just the ones who voted for you.
Don the Con Trump been the one who reiterates that democrats/liberals and the media are "the enemy". He's never acted presidential ever.
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Post by annaintx on Jun 7, 2017 20:34:34 GMT
I have seen in several comments sections on FB and other news sites that "libtards aren't even people". I've seen it SEVERAL times. And someone commented in a FB post of this article that what the son said is in no way comparable to what Clinton said when she called his supporters "deplorables".
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 7, 2017 21:09:48 GMT
I have seen in several comments sections on FB and other news sites that "libtards aren't even people". I've seen it SEVERAL times. And someone commented in a FB post of this article that what the son said is in no way comparable to what Clinton said when she called his supporters "deplorables". Of course they don't do anything wrong--their insults are NEVER as bad as liberals...such tender, sensitive snowflakes.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 8, 2017 0:02:40 GMT
Great opinion piece:
" Eric Trump shows that cluelessness runs in the family By Michael D'Antonio
Updated 5:02 PM ET, Wed June 7, 2017 Eric Trump: Dems aren't even people
Eric Trump: Dems aren't even people 01:19 Story highlights D'Antonio: Eric Trump saying Democrats in D.C. "are not even people" shows a lack of moral compass similar to his father Trump children have yet to face reality because they've never lived outside comforts provided by their billionaire dad Michael D'Antonio is the author of the book "Never Enough: Donald Trump and the Pursuit of Success" (St. Martin's Press). The opinions expressed in this commentary are his.
(CNN)The nation is in a crisis that may soon exceed Watergate, at least in the estimation of James Clapper, former director of national intelligence. Having interfered with America's election, Russia is disrupting governments around the world. China is racing to fill the gap created as world leaders conclude they cannot expect leadership from the United States. Top intelligence and law enforcement officials are testifying about a White House that crosses ethical lines. And Eric Trump wants us to know that he takes it all very personally.
Michael D'Antonio Michael D'Antonio The president's 33-year-old son was asked Tuesday by Fox News host Sean Hannity, "Don't you wish you went to Washington so you could be dealing with this every second of every day?" Eric Trump replied, "I've never seen hatred like this. And to me, they're not even people. It's so, so sad. I mean, morality's just gone. Morals have flown out the window. We deserve so much better than this as a country." But the real pain, he wants us to know, is being felt by his family because, "They try and obstruct a great man, they try and obstruct his family, they come after us viciously, and it's truly, truly horrible."
Coming within hours of a report in Forbes that the Trump organization profited from events held to benefit Eric Trump's cancer charity, young Trump's complaints match his father's record of audacity under fire. (A spokesperson for Eric Trump took issue with the Forbes story and called it "truly disgusting," saying, "Contrary to recent reports, at no time did the Trump Organization profit in any way from the foundation or any of its activities" and pointing out the charity has raised more than $16.3 million for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.) The President has long practiced the art of throwing stones from glass skyscrapers and it's obvious the son has learned the lesson well. He also possesses a host of tendencies -- to exaggerate, to personalize and to complain -- that appear to have been direct inheritances. Trump fumes after son halts charity fundraising Trump fumes after son halts charity fundraising With roughly 150 words, the youngest son of President Trump and his first wife, Ivana, provided compelling evidence he is as self-impressed and clueless as his father. Eric Trump has never lived outside the cosseted comfort provided by his billionaire father, and never worked outside the family enterprise. This background is not enough for anyone to consider that his personal experience matters much at all. Eric asking us to give weight to what he has seen reminds one of a 5-year-old who complains he's never been given the keys to the car and therefore life is terribly unfair. Even if we generously credit Eric for his life experience, we run immediately into his declaration that his father's critics aren't really people and that morality has been evicted from the public arena. Nothing in these words, or his expression, suggested that Eric recognized anything ironic about dehumanizing substantial numbers of people in one breath and complaining about the moral climate in another. And then there's the question of just who might be responsible for the moral decay that bothers young Trump so much. Were he to consult the record of the recent presidential campaign, his father's business practices, or his own childhood, Eric Trump could find ample evidence that someone he knows quite well helped lower the standards for the moral example set by public figures. When Eric was still in grammar school his father helped fuel a sex scandal that ended his marriage to Ivana Trump by leaking tidbits to reporters, who made the tawdry details of an affair public. Trump 1989 interview on the 'Central Park Five'
Trump 1989 interview on the 'Central Park Five' 03:12 It was his own father who fanned the flames of racial tensions during the Central Park Five case, indulged in name-calling to publicly denigrate women, and spoke suggestively about his daughter (Eric's sister) on the Howard Stern radio show. Donald Trump's moral compass directed him to exploit unsuspecting consumers with his Trump University and it led him to utter the gross words about molesting women captured by "Access Hollywood." In politics Donald Trump's morality moved him to encourage violence at his rallies, mock a disabled reporter, and call for his opponent to be imprisoned. And let's not forget the cute names he used to describe his opponents. Trump University: The jury is still out Trump University: The jury is still out Candidate Trump was such an exemplar of moral rectitude that parents were forced to teach their children that he was not a man to be imitated. One would hope that Eric had been taught better, but on Fox he chose to call the head of the Democratic National Committee "a whack job." In his name-calling, his emotion, his sense of entitlement, and his lack of self-awareness, Eric Trump showed he is every bit his father's son. Were Donald Trump a noble figure, the prospect of a younger generation devoted to his presidency would be encouraging. However, Trump is proving to be so unfit -- temperamentally, intellectually, and yes, morally -- that the traits that bind the family together are more frightening than reassuring. In the time I spent, while preparing to write a Donald Trump biography, with Eric, his sister Ivanka and his brother Donald Jr. I discovered they all suffered from a lack of experience outside the custom-made universe that revolved around their father. Like him they had always lived inside the precincts of wealth and power, where it was hard to imagine a problem their father couldn't fix or a mistake he couldn't repair. Donald Jr. had worked for about a year in a bar and then joined the family firm. Ivanka had served a similar term in a real estate company headquartered in the same market as the Trump Organization. Eric had gone straight from college into the family enterprise, but sought to distinguish himself as the charitable one, by talking often about his work on behalf of kids with cancer. Ivanka and Jared's millions won't help them govern Ivanka and Jared's millions won't help them govern As the youngest of the Donald/Ivana kids, Eric expressed the greatest devotion to his father and seemed most committed to the practice of denial that allowed him to tell me, with a straight face, that his father was on a par with Winston Churchill and President Theodore Roosevelt. (This was back when Trump had yet to even say he was entering the 2016 race.) The older siblings were a bit less effusive, and Donald Jr. even confessed that his father rubs many people the wrong way. (Donald Jr. also stressed the idea that his family could best be understood as a product of breeding, as if the key traits were a matter of blood.) Not surprisingly, as they sat in their glowing offices, where they commanded their portions of the family empire, nary a word of dissent was ever uttered. The loyalty expressed by Eric, Ivanka and Donald Jr. has placed them among the President's most trusted advisers, and it should qualify them to give him a perspective that might help him stop the self-destructive cycle that has paralyzed his administration. But as the world has prayed for the young Trumps, especially Ivanka, to intervene, they have proven to be inadequate to the task. Eric's diatribe is yet another proof that the qualities that may bring ruin to the Trump presidency reside in some of his children as well."
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