PaperAngel
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 28, 2017 17:38:38 GMT
Your posts suggest otherwise. Please provide a source to support your original claim that Christian politicians are proposing rape as law in the US. They're not silly enough to propose it as "rape as law" - merely "biblical America". Sadly, the bible contains many passages that are as ridiculous as the raping of another woman as punishment for a man's crime. e.g.,http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/07/19596/ "Because many of the founders had been persecuted for their religious beliefs, colonial America became a haven for devoutly religious dissidents. It’s not surprising that they sought to protect “freedom of religion” through the First Amendment to the Constitution. Make no mistake: the First Amendment secures Americans’ right to the freedom of religion. The notion that it only secures freedom from religion is a novel and dangerous reinterpretation." See also Pence, Huckabee, Bachmann, etc. The Bible & partisan commentary/quotations are not US law & do not support your assertion. Rather, the First Amendment of the US Constitution guarantees its citizen separation of church & state. Your unsubstantiated & prejudiced claim distracts from the tragedy fact of these practices in Pakistans & too many other places around the world.
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 17:40:34 GMT
Don't be sorry. You are allowed to your feelings just as I am allowed to mine. It's not like I am going to start stalking you on the pea board and start liking all of your posts so that I can track your activity and share with people not on the board.
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 17:41:55 GMT
Your first post was disgusting. Ok.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 28, 2017 17:43:29 GMT
So, you also believe it's a fact that US Christian politicians are proposing rape of female family members as punishment for crimes (as is the practice in Pakistan)? Please provide a source. Excusing rape and sexual assault (see: Duggar, and their biggest supporter, Huckabee) as a "family matter," treating women as subordinates with one narrowly defined role (submitting to sex/having babies) and a justice system that routinely exonerates rapists or lets them off with a slap on the wrist is morally the same thing. "She was asking for it," in any court of law is the same thing. Making it illegal for women to maintain autonomy over their own bodies is the same damn thing. Any belief system that treats women as subordinate and says that men have "headship" over women (see: Huckabee, Pence, Cruz, etc.) is promoting the same sick belief system that decides a woman's rape is appropriate punishment for a man's crime. They're not proposing it yet, but that's exactly where these perverted belief systems are headed. We'd just like to prevent things from going that far. Thank you for making my point. No Christian politician has proposed legalizing rape. It's just a biased prediction, & certainly not a fact, by non-Christians (apparently with a crystal ball).
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Post by prapea on Jul 28, 2017 17:43:48 GMT
When I go to hell(believe me I am with my judgy pants and foul mouth), I am going to find each one of these assholes and hurt them.
What kind of effing world are we living in? What happened and what is happening around the world to women is horrible. But if I have to shut the fuck up because women around the world have it worse than me, hahahahahahahahahaha. Nope not happening.
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Post by hop2 on Jul 28, 2017 17:47:53 GMT
Don't be sorry. You are allowed to your feelings just as I am allowed to mine. It's not like I am going to start stalking you on the pea board and start liking all of your posts so that I can track your activity and share with people not on the board. touche All is well. Frankly I wish there were more effective things we could do to help women in other places. But I'm going to follow my dads advice and keep our society moving forward make sure we do not loose what we have.
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Post by peano on Jul 28, 2017 17:48:50 GMT
And this is why when women in the US complain about being held down or pushed down by men....it pisses me off. Go live in Pakistan or other parts of the world where you have no control over your own body and rape is considered a viable punishment and you are not allowed outside without a male family member with you....that is true oppression. BULLSHIT!!! It's all a symptom of the same underlying problem, which is misogyny. It may not be equal in severity, but it ALL deserves to be challenged. Misogyny is a big part of the reason we have a clusterfuck for a president instead of a eminently qualified woman. Your approach is not in any way helpful--in fact, you sound like you're identifying and aligning with the ones who would take the first opportunity to oppress you in ways subtle, and not so subtle. I hope that's not the case.
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 17:57:20 GMT
There is a distinct difference in fighting against abortion banning, the defunding of Planned Parenthood and victim shaming of rape victims... and women that I see having a meltdown because they believe that they are being destroyed every day by the male patriarch system.
You can get dressed every morning and leave your house without having a male family member by your side. You are allowed to get an education. You can drive a car. You can use public transportation. You can earn money and use it as you see fit. You can choose your own marriage partner. The average woman in America does not have to worry about her clitoris being sliced off so she does not enjoy sex. In fact....we are more empowered to embrace our sexuality than ever before.
Yes...we should absolutely be speaking out against the ever growing rules to abolish abortion. All of these bullshit rules about having a clinic with halls wide enough for gurneys....all of them are created to make getting abortions more difficult. I am pro choice and will never support a politician who is not.
Yes...we should be working to keep Planned Parenthood funded.
But there are women in this world who suffer under an oppression that they will never ever be able to get out from underneath. They have no hope. They will be beaten daily with no resources to save them. They have no women's shelters to come to their rescue. They will be stoned for being raped. Their sexuality will be stolen from them so that they will never be able to enjoy sex.
This is what I am saying.
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 18:01:26 GMT
Frankly I wish there were more effective things we could do to help women in other places. I am right there with you. It saddens me deeply to know that while we have a recourse in our country to be able to fight back....there are millions of women around the world who will never have hope. They will wake up every morning believing that they are destined to be lesser then their male counterparts. They have to live in fear every day.
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Post by Merge on Jul 28, 2017 18:03:43 GMT
Excusing rape and sexual assault (see: Duggar, and their biggest supporter, Huckabee) as a "family matter," treating women as subordinates with one narrowly defined role (submitting to sex/having babies) and a justice system that routinely exonerates rapists or lets them off with a slap on the wrist is morally the same thing. "She was asking for it," in any court of law is the same thing. Making it illegal for women to maintain autonomy over their own bodies is the same damn thing. Any belief system that treats women as subordinate and says that men have "headship" over women (see: Huckabee, Pence, Cruz, etc.) is promoting the same sick belief system that decides a woman's rape is appropriate punishment for a man's crime. They're not proposing it yet, but that's exactly where these perverted belief systems are headed. We'd just like to prevent things from going that far. Thank you for making my point. No Christian politician has proposed legalizing rape. It's just a biased prediction, & certainly not a fact, by non-Christians (apparently with a crystal ball). No, it seems you've missed the point entirely. Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported a failure to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican party.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 18:27:09 GMT
They're not silly enough to propose it as "rape as law" - merely "biblical America". Sadly, the bible contains many passages that are as ridiculous as the raping of another woman as punishment for a man's crime. e.g.,http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2017/07/19596/ "Because many of the founders had been persecuted for their religious beliefs, colonial America became a haven for devoutly religious dissidents. It’s not surprising that they sought to protect “freedom of religion” through the First Amendment to the Constitution. Make no mistake: the First Amendment secures Americans’ right to the freedom of religion. The notion that it only secures freedom from religion is a novel and dangerous reinterpretation." See also Pence, Huckabee, Bachmann, etc. The Bible & partisan commentary/quotations are not US law & do not support your assertion. Rather, the First Amendment of the US Constitution guarantees its citizen separation of church & state. Your unsubstantiated & prejudiced claim distracts from the tragedy fact of these practices in Pakistans & too many other places around the world. My sssertion is that there are those who wish to institute biblical laws and that some parts of the Bible suck as hard as any other idiotic cultural norms in other parts of the world.
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Post by tincin on Jul 28, 2017 18:37:11 GMT
And this is why when women in the US complain about being held down or pushed down by men....it pisses me off. Go live in Pakistan or other parts of the world where you have no control over your own body and rape is considered a viable punishment and you are not allowed outside without a male family member with you....that is true oppression. Their oppression doesn't make ours any less valid.
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Post by J u l e e on Jul 28, 2017 18:40:23 GMT
There is a distinct difference in fighting against abortion banning, the defunding of Planned Parenthood and victim shaming of rape victims... and women that I see having a meltdown because they believe that they are being destroyed every day by the male patriarch system. You can get dressed every morning and leave your house without having a male family member by your side. You are allowed to get an education. You can drive a car. You can use public transportation. You can earn money and use it as you see fit. You can choose your own marriage partner. The average woman in America does not have to worry about her clitoris being sliced off so she does not enjoy sex. In fact....we are more empowered to embrace our sexuality than ever before. Yes...we should absolutely be speaking out against the ever growing rules to abolish abortion. All of these bullshit rules about having a clinic with halls wide enough for gurneys....all of them are created to make getting abortions more difficult. I am pro choice and will never support a politician who is not. Yes...we should be working to keep Planned Parenthood funded. But there are women in this world who suffer under an oppression that they will never ever be able to get out from underneath. They have no hope. They will be beaten daily with no resources to save them. They have no women's shelters to come to their rescue. They will be stoned for being raped. Their sexuality will be stolen from them so that they will never be able to enjoy sex. This is what I am saying. But that's not ALL you are saying. You said it pisses you off when women call out misogyny in our corner of the world.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 28, 2017 19:00:02 GMT
Thank you for making my point. No Christian politician has proposed legalizing rape. It's just a biased prediction, & certainly not a fact, by non-Christians (apparently with a crystal ball). No, it seems you've missed the point entirely. Not at all. Your perception of Christians & the justice system (which, by the way, is comprised of people practicing many different or no religions) is not a legitimate source or proof that any US politician intends to legalize rape; in fact, you stated "they're not proposing it yet..."
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Post by Merge on Jul 28, 2017 19:13:43 GMT
No, it seems you've missed the point entirely. Not at all. Your perception of Christians & the justice system (which, by the way, is comprised of people practicing many different or no religions) is not a legitimate source or proof that any US politician intends to legalize rape; in fact, you stated "they're not proposing it yet..." Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I'll copy it here again. I think it's sad that you're so hung up on a word for word match that you can't see the heart of the matter. Or perhaps you just don't wish to, because it's easier and more comfortable to say "we're not like those Pakistani tribal councils; no one is actually suggesting we legalize rape." Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican partyBut the Republican party can't absolve itself that easily. The record stands. If you're not protecting women in these situations, you're participating in the culture that says it's OK to rape women. So rape might as well be perfectly legal, if men can't be held to account and women are forced to bear punishment for their rapists' crimes. Everything else is just semantics.
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 19:43:28 GMT
You said it pisses you off when women call out misogyny in our corner of the world. Yes...which I then expounded upon to make a more clear statement. Perhaps I should have just edited the existing post.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 28, 2017 19:47:34 GMT
Not at all. Your perception of Christians & the justice system (which, by the way, is comprised of people practicing many different or no religions) is not a legitimate source or proof that any US politician intends to legalize rape; in fact, you stated "they're not proposing it yet..." Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I'll copy it here again. I think it's sad that you're so hung up on a word for word match that you can't see the heart of the matter. Or perhaps you just don't wish to, because it's easier and more comfortable to say "we're not like those Pakistani tribal councils; no one is actually suggesting we legalize rape." Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican partyBut the Republican party can't absolve itself that easily. The record stands. If you're not protecting women in these situations, you're participating in the culture that says it's OK to rape women. So rape might as well be perfectly legal, if men can't be held to account and women are forced to bear punishment for their rapists' crimes. Everything else is just semantics. Your condescension is unnecessary. As you are aware, I didn't disregard your entire response since you added the (bolded) above after I quoted/responded to your original response which simply stated, "No, it seems you've missed the point entirely." Please provide a legitimate source(s) that supports your implications that all Christians are Republican as well as only prosecutors/judges/jurors that identify as Republican fail & those that are Democrat succeed in prosecuting rape cases. According to your reasoning, all female Republicans are Christians who advocate, support, & intend to legalize a rape culture. Dismissing the blatantly false claim that Christians in the US intend to legalize rape as semantics is irresponsible. Unlike you & most others on this board, I don't engage in partisan politics & am appauled at the divisive rhetoric promoted by both sides!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 19:59:05 GMT
Not at all. Your perception of Christians & the justice system (which, by the way, is comprised of people practicing many different or no religions) is not a legitimate source or proof that any US politician intends to legalize rape; in fact, you stated "they're not proposing it yet..." Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I'll copy it here again. I think it's sad that you're so hung up on a word for word match that you can't see the heart of the matter. Or perhaps you just don't wish to, because it's easier and more comfortable to say "we're not like those Pakistani tribal councils; no one is actually suggesting we legalize rape." Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican partyBut the Republican party can't absolve itself that easily. The record stands. If you're not protecting women in these situations, you're participating in the culture that says it's OK to rape women. So rape might as well be perfectly legal, if men can't be held to account and women are forced to bear punishment for their rapists' crimes. Everything else is just semantics. I'd like to point out that the horrendous action in Pakistan is also extra-judicial but approved by "elders". So, they, like we, can say "it is not in our laws" - for all the good that did the poor 17 yo
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Post by zookeeper on Jul 28, 2017 20:02:58 GMT
The elders in these types of communities have all of the power. There is no fair judicial system to which anybody is held accountable. It is sad, really.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 28, 2017 20:31:55 GMT
And this is why when women in the US complain about being held down or pushed down by men....it pisses me off. Go live in Pakistan or other parts of the world where you have no control over your own body and rape is considered a viable punishment and you are not allowed outside without a male family member with you....that is true oppression. Or just stay here and wait to see if evangelicals finally institute their wet dream of biblical America w/its male "headship" over women and other super-duper ideas of rape and restitution: "If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." - Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB Blessed be the fruit...
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Post by Merge on Jul 28, 2017 20:57:47 GMT
Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I'll copy it here again. I think it's sad that you're so hung up on a word for word match that you can't see the heart of the matter. Or perhaps you just don't wish to, because it's easier and more comfortable to say "we're not like those Pakistani tribal councils; no one is actually suggesting we legalize rape." Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican partyBut the Republican party can't absolve itself that easily. The record stands. If you're not protecting women in these situations, you're participating in the culture that says it's OK to rape women. So rape might as well be perfectly legal, if men can't be held to account and women are forced to bear punishment for their rapists' crimes. Everything else is just semantics. I didn't say or imply that ALL Christians are Republican. But the ones who support dominionist and patriarchal politics tend to be overwhelmingly so. Or else they call themselves "Libertarian" but don't mean that on social issues. Didn't say that, either. And now your'e really just making stuff up. I'm not willing to argue against your red herrings. But I will say this - if you are a female supporting anti-choice politicians, if you are a female willingly engaged in a patriarchal belief system who votes for others who want to legislate these systems across the nation - yes, you're advocating and supporting a rape culture. Is that entirety of the female Republican party? I'm sure not. But Trump et al didn't win solely on male votes. You know, I wasn't very partisan until the Republican party became what it currently is. When Republicans in this country started electing people like Ted Cruz, Mike Pence and Donald Trump, it became clear to me that this wasn't just a matter of partisan politics. The Republican party has been taken over by an entity I consider to be evil, period. I'm not willing to be silent on this subject even if it makes people angry. If you're getting angry hearing the truth - if you're going to excuse and justify and pick hairs to try to paint the current far right as just another valid viewpoint - as far as I'm concerned, you're on the wrong side.
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Post by peano on Jul 28, 2017 21:12:00 GMT
Or just stay here and wait to see if evangelicals finally institute their wet dream of biblical America w/its male "headship" over women and other super-duper ideas of rape and restitution: "If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." - Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB Blessed be the fruit... Shudder...
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Post by cade387 on Jul 28, 2017 21:29:39 GMT
Did you read the rest of what I wrote? I'll copy it here again. I think it's sad that you're so hung up on a word for word match that you can't see the heart of the matter. Or perhaps you just don't wish to, because it's easier and more comfortable to say "we're not like those Pakistani tribal councils; no one is actually suggesting we legalize rape." Failing to adequately prosecute rape is tantamount to legalizing it - and we have a growing number of Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute. Republican politicians who say that it's "God's will" that a rape victim should have to carry her rapist's baby are punishing a woman for a man's crime, further denying her autonomy and treating her as nothing more than an incubator because she was raped. The exact semantics of the argument (whether or not politicians are actively promoting legalizing rape) are not as important as the fact that these pro-rape/anti-woman beliefs are alive and well in the Republican partyBut the Republican party can't absolve itself that easily. The record stands. If you're not protecting women in these situations, you're participating in the culture that says it's OK to rape women. So rape might as well be perfectly legal, if men can't be held to account and women are forced to bear punishment for their rapists' crimes. Everything else is just semantics. Your condescension is unnecessary. As you are aware, I didn't disregard your entire response since you added the (bolded) above after I quoted/responded to your original response which simply stated, "No, it seems you've missed the point entirely." Please provide a legitimate source(s) that supports your implications that all Christians are Republican as well as only prosecutors/judges/jurors that identify as Republican fail & those that are Democrat succeed in prosecuting rape cases. According to your reasoning, all female Republicans are Christians who advocate, support, & intend to legalize a rape culture. Dismissing the blatantly false claim that Christians in the US intend to legalize rape as semantics is irresponsible. Unlike you & most others on this board, I don't engage in partisan politics & am appauled at the divisive rhetoric promoted by both sides!
You are having issues with reading comprehension. I would take a step back. Merge is exactly on point. I'm disgusted that these people call them selves Christians because they aren't.
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Post by cade387 on Jul 28, 2017 21:30:24 GMT
I may have missed it, but as elders - is this a secular ruling or a religious one? If religious, what religion?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 21:32:23 GMT
The elders in these types of communities have all of the power. There is no fair judicial system to which anybody is held accountable. It is sad, really. That isn't entirely true. 29 people, all of the same family have been arrested for this crime. LINK
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 28, 2017 22:08:12 GMT
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Post by Sukkii on Jul 28, 2017 22:53:27 GMT
Dotty, although these men have been arrested, do you really think any one of them will actually be found guilty and serve a sentence?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 22:54:34 GMT
The elders in these types of communities have all of the power. There is no fair judicial system to which anybody is held accountable. It is sad, really. That isn't entirely true. 29 people, all of the same family have been arrested for this crime. LINKFor which I am grateful. It gives me hope. But people must stay diligent to ensure they are prosecuted and sentenced. I am vowing to do more than call attention to this type of disgusting behavior. I am donating today. RIght now. www.equalitynow.org/campaigns/rape-laws-reportwww.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=6023If anyone has other suggestions for donations, please feel free to add.
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Post by laureljean on Jul 28, 2017 22:57:37 GMT
As long as women (and girls) are viewed as property of males, these kind of abuses will continue. It makes me sick.
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Post by PaperAngel on Jul 28, 2017 22:59:46 GMT
I didn't say or imply that ALL Christians are Republican. But the ones who support dominionist and patriarchal politics tend to be overwhelmingly so. Or else they call themselves "Libertarian" but don't mean that on social issues. Didn't say that, either. And now your'e really just making stuff up. I'm not willing to argue against your red herrings. But I will say this - if you are a female supporting anti-choice politicians, if you are a female willingly engaged in a patriarchal belief system who votes for others who want to legislate these systems across the nation - yes, you're advocating and supporting a rape culture. Is that entirety of the female Republican party? I'm sure not. But Trump et al didn't win solely on male votes. You know, I wasn't very partisan until the Republican party became what it currently is. When Republicans in this country started electing people like Ted Cruz, Mike Pence and Donald Trump, it became clear to me that this wasn't just a matter of partisan politics. The Republican party has been taken over by an entity I consider to be evil, period. I'm not willing to be silent on this subject even if it makes people angry. If you're getting angry hearing the truth - if you're going to excuse and justify and pick hairs to try to paint the current far right as just another valid viewpoint - as far as I'm concerned, you're on the wrong side. Please note that my comments were clearly in response to another poster's assertion that Christians are legalizing rape in the US. By quoting & editing your response to my posts with criticism only of "Republican politicians who have supported failures to adequately prosecute...rape is tantamount to legalizing it..." makes it partisan & implies only Christians are Republicans, only Republicans fail to prosecute rape, & female Republicans support the rape culture. All of these implications are false. Speaking of "making stuff up," it's interesting you failed to acknowledge that you had edited/added to your post, the source of your condescension.
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