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Post by hop2 on Sept 2, 2017 18:04:11 GMT
OK So DS needs this iclicker thing for chem class. I look it up and its some radio wave remote to be able to answer the professors questions immediately in class during the lecture. (I guess multiple choice?) I'm like geez I'm glad I'm not going to college now I'm not sure my brain works instantly any more. Good thing DS's brain seems to still work quickly. So has anyone dealt with this iclicker thing? Advise? Tips?
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Post by worrywart on Sept 2, 2017 18:16:19 GMT
It is a response system so students can put in answers and a program gathers them electronically. Fairly straightforward I think and fun for students (not sure about college but younger students like them)
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Post by hop2 on Sept 2, 2017 18:19:33 GMT
It is a response system so students can put in answers and a program gathers them electronically. Fairly straightforward I think and fun for students (not sure about college but younger students like them) So they aren't graded questions? like you know who answered what?
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Sept 2, 2017 18:27:10 GMT
I don't know where you buy them, but when I go to continuing education seminars, many speakers use the clickers. It aggregates the answers for the multiple choice and shows what percentage of the audience picked each answer. Usually there's a little bit of lecture portion, then we do the questions to test knowledge... wrong answers allow the speaker to fill in knowledge gaps or facilitate discussion among the audience.
I hated them at first but they've grown on me. More interesting than sitting through just a lecture.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 20:05:15 GMT
It is a response system so students can put in answers and a program gathers them electronically. Fairly straightforward I think and fun for students (not sure about college but younger students like them) So they aren't graded questions? like you know who answered what? They can be graded questions where the instructor can see who provided what answer to each question. Or it can be an anonymous poll. Depends on how the instructor sets up the receiving end of the software. This might help: louisville.edu/it/departments/classroom-support/iclicker/i-clicker-frequently-asked-questions-for-students "Blackboard" is a widely used computer platform in higher education for web based components of courses.
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Post by Patter on Sept 2, 2017 20:16:45 GMT
My girls used them all through their college years (chemistry/forensic science/criminal justice daughter 1 and biology/computer science/chemistry daughter 2). They sit down on my ping pong table now. Anyway, they were dual enrolled at two schools. One school just used it to click-in attendance and do practice problems. Another school used it for actual grading, and they hated that. So it really depends on how the professor uses it.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2017 20:21:23 GMT
I used them all of the time in class with my fifth graders. We used them to see where the class was at with instruction and then for testing when needed. Way faster than other modes of instructional evaluation.
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Post by SabrinaP on Sept 2, 2017 20:24:29 GMT
How much are they? I wonder why the professors don't use an online system that students can access through their computer or other mobile device? Seems to make more sense than buying something new.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 2, 2017 20:26:42 GMT
How much are they? I wonder why the professors don't use an online system that students can access through their computer or other mobile device? Seems to make more sense than buying something new. They are about $40 and kids can use them for four years. Way cheaper than $400 for one book. Some professors don't want the kids with their phones out because they aren't paying attention. I could see that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 20:27:20 GMT
How much are they? I wonder why the professors don't use an online system that students can access through their computer or other mobile device? Seems to make more sense than buying something new. Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 2, 2017 22:52:30 GMT
Thank you all, that explains it a bit.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed DS does his best in this class, this professor takes no crap that's for sure.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 3, 2017 0:28:48 GMT
Thank you all, that explains it a bit. I'm keeping my fingers crossed DS does his best in this class, this professor takes no crap that's for sure. Best kind of professor for learning. All of my son's instructors have been PHDs except one. It was a technical writing class. But my son said that she was the head of the department and really demanding. I feel like I am getting my money out of his education.
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Post by scrapmaven on Sept 3, 2017 1:32:00 GMT
My son has to buy a clicker for freshman chem class. Since he's a chem major he'll use it all 4 years. In his case, he has to order it from his university bookstore.
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Post by knitnmomma on Sept 3, 2017 1:56:18 GMT
My son had one and sometimes his Professors used it to take attendance. I Think that is great, students will think twice About skipping class.
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Post by elaine on Sept 3, 2017 2:09:58 GMT
I think just clicking in sporadically answering questions during a class period/lecture will keep students more engaged and wider awake. I think if it isn't graded (except for attendance) this could be a great tool!
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Post by worrywart on Sept 3, 2017 2:46:41 GMT
Yes you can use them for grades and even use them for students to put in their test answers. Each remote is programmed to a particular student somehow so the teacher can easily see how they did on a particular question or assessment. My ds told me that he has used them more often when the classes are really large. Probably much easier to keep up with grading that way.
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Post by Patter on Sept 3, 2017 11:00:07 GMT
How much are they? I wonder why the professors don't use an online system that students can access through their computer or other mobile device? Seems to make more sense than buying something new. Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing. Yes, that! A lot of professors won't allow computers, phones, etc., because they aren't using their device to take notes but to ignore class. My daughters always have to get special permission to bring their laptops/phones to class because of their health issues. Otherwise, those devices are not allowed.
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 3, 2017 14:11:18 GMT
Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing. Yes, that! A lot of professors won't allow computers, phones, etc., because they aren't using their device to take notes but to ignore class. My daughters always have to get special permission to bring their laptops/phones to class because of their health issues. Otherwise, those devices are not allowed. Because heaven knows these students won't be using any devices in the actual world of work. I think this happens more in large lecture halls where professors expect 200 people to memorize from their notes on a powerpoint. It amuses me that colleges still use such terrible teaching strategies. But it is certainly more cost effective to jam 200 students into a 100 level lecture than to have smaller class sizes and more personalized learning. At least with the iClickers the professor has some idea (on a more regular basis) of what the students know and understand. So, progress, I guess?
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Post by likescarrots on Sept 3, 2017 16:12:33 GMT
My son had one and sometimes his Professors used it to take attendance. I Think that is great, students will think twice About skipping class. Not necessarily. Student A doesn't feel like coming to class so they give the clicker to their friend/roomate/whoever and the friend just 'clicks' them in...
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Post by SockMonkey on Sept 3, 2017 17:05:30 GMT
My son had one and sometimes his Professors used it to take attendance. I Think that is great, students will think twice About skipping class. Not necessarily. Student A doesn't feel like coming to class so they give the clicker to their friend/roomate/whoever and the friend just 'clicks' them in... Or takes the quiz for them... For real, large lectures are the worst!
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 3, 2017 17:13:15 GMT
Yes, that! A lot of professors won't allow computers, phones, etc., because they aren't using their device to take notes but to ignore class. My daughters always have to get special permission to bring their laptops/phones to class because of their health issues. Otherwise, those devices are not allowed. Because heaven knows these students won't be using any devices in the actual world of work. I think this happens more in large lecture halls where professors expect 200 people to memorize from their notes on a powerpoint. It amuses me that colleges still use such terrible teaching strategies. But it is certainly more cost effective to jam 200 students into a 100 level lecture than to have smaller class sizes and more personalized learning. At least with the iClickers the professor has some idea (on a more regular basis) of what the students know and understand. So, progress, I guess? Our work computers are monitored. I never go anywhere on mine that isn't work related. I didn't as a teacher either.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 3, 2017 17:14:41 GMT
My son had one and sometimes his Professors used it to take attendance. I Think that is great, students will think twice About skipping class. Not necessarily. Student A doesn't feel like coming to class so they give the clicker to their friend/roomate/whoever and the friend just 'clicks' them in... My husband uses clickers and takes old fashioned attendance every time. His largest class is 60 though.
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Post by Patter on Sept 3, 2017 20:53:53 GMT
Not necessarily. Student A doesn't feel like coming to class so they give the clicker to their friend/roomate/whoever and the friend just 'clicks' them in... My husband uses clickers and takes old fashioned attendance every time. His largest class is 60 though. Yes, the largest class my girls have/had was 30 in a class. Several classes one of my girls have this semester only have 5 students. It's a small school though.
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Post by Patter on Sept 3, 2017 20:54:17 GMT
Not necessarily. Student A doesn't feel like coming to class so they give the clicker to their friend/roomate/whoever and the friend just 'clicks' them in... My husband uses clickers and takes old fashioned attendance every time. His largest class is 60 though. Yes, the largest class my girls have/had was 30 in a class. Several classes one of my girls have this semester only have 5 students. It's a small school though.
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Post by auntkelly on Sept 3, 2017 21:10:01 GMT
I used clickers when I taught business law at a community college. My department supplied the clickers. I used them to keep my students engaged.
It's hard to get students to raise their hands and give their opinions. The students seem to enjoy giving their opinion anonymously.
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Post by tkdmom on Sept 3, 2017 23:51:28 GMT
We used clickers at the last school I taught at. Yes, there are apps that can do the same thing. However, a number of students did not own a computer, tablet or smartphone. Many were barely getting by with their student loans. Thus we had a large computer lab open 24/7.
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Post by bendany on Sept 4, 2017 14:59:18 GMT
How much are they? I wonder why the professors don't use an online system that students can access through their computer or other mobile device? Seems to make more sense than buying something new. Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing. Can u install some web-browsing software on it? Cause it seems that students can cheat with them as same as with phones and etc. They applying to different agencies, like this coursework writing service, for example.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 4, 2017 15:16:20 GMT
Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing. Can u install some web-browsing software on it? Cause it seems that students can cheat with them as same as with phones and etc. it is radio wave operated so it doesn't connect to the internet. So no, you can't install software on it- perhaps on the part the teacher uses but not on the clicker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:24:55 GMT
Some professors don't like allowing computers/mobile devices because it can be used for other distractions like web surfing or game playing whereas the clicker is just a clicker... no other options of things to do with it. But there are aps that can do the same thing. Can u install some web-browsing software on it? Cause it seems that students can cheat with them as same as with phones and etc. No, you can't install any type of software. It runs on radio waves, not wi-fi. Think game show response button. Not sure how you would cheat with it. You have the option of pressing A-E, send, reset (if you select one answer and change your mind before you hit send) eta: This is what we are discussiong: www.amazon.com/i-clicker-student-remote-i-clicker/dp/1464120153/ref=pd_cp_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=CJC9QDPZVMMS9KT30F5R
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Post by utmr on Sept 4, 2017 20:12:13 GMT
The one DD has is slightly larger than a credit card and a little less than the thickness of an iPhone. I forget how many buttons - I was thinking 4. An improvement over the red solo cup method back in the day.
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