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Post by aljack on Sept 23, 2017 16:05:14 GMT
I am so darn angry right now! We adopted our Poochon/Bischonpoo about three months ago. Our neighbors adopted two German Shepards two months ago.
Ever since they adopted their puppies, we keep finding large piles of waste in our yard. In the front, both sides, and even our sidewalk. At first we didn’t think it was them since they have a fenced in yard. Until we saw the puppies escape under the fence and helped get them back home safely, twice. The neighbor then put wire up to keep them from scooting under and gave the one puppy that escaped the most, away. Very sad as she was the girl and loved our female dog. We thought the problem would be solved. No, now we are finding several piles a day in the side that we border with them.
Twice I have come out with my puppy on a leash and seen the wife with their puppy unleashed roaming in the front and side yard. Mostly our property. Our yard is not fenced so we always have our dog on a leash. Anyhow, she sees me each time and quickly calls him to come to her property. He doesn’t, so she scoops him up and scurries inside no words. The last time I saw a pile of waste. I didn’t want to assume so I let it go.
The son, who is 8, is outside in the front yard with him unleashed repeatedly. One time the puppy followed us on a walk and we had to help get him back because the boy couldn’t handle him. Another time, the boy’s father ran down the street chasing after him as the puppy was following us.
Yesterday, there was three piles of waste in our yard and they were obviously the same dog as the stools are always loose and a pea green color. I haven’t seen the action take place, but I have had the horrible job of cleaning up the waste and it’s the same gross loose stool discovered the first time I saw her out with her puppy.
The husband puts the puppy in the back yard but the wife brings out front and she never responds to hello’s or waves.
We are tired of it. I posted on FB to neighborhood site to please clean up after pets. Especially since we had a huge pile on our sidewalk. I can’t say anything to our neighbors since we don’t have proof. I also don’t want to start a war. A friend I was speaking to said I should throw the waste into their yard. It seems silly to pick it up and throw over in their yard when I could just throw away and be done with it. Also, they have cameras in front of house and new this week, the back yard.
In addition...
The wife has a temper according to the SR and PM of our house build. She ripped the property stakes out and marched to the model to tell the SR they were wrong. She yelled at the workers our PM said and stood on the property line numerous times making sure no one touched her rose bushes or trees which were planted over the line. When they had the fence built they pulled everything out.
I just dont don’t know what to do. We are having another camera installed on that corner of the house tomorrow because we want to see all of our driveway. If it captures the incidents, I probably will say something but I just can’t envision this going well. I don’t get it. I would never let my dog do this.
Update... My husband was out with our dog and found a pile. He scooped it up in baggie and walked over to their yard to be seen on camera and held it up. For several seconds. He then walked away and threw in our trash. I love this man! A day later wife pulls into her driveway and ran over to chat with him. She proceeded to compliment our new landscaping and then said she knows her dog escapes and that she is trying to control him better. She gave the other female dog to her Uncle because she can’t handle two and her husband isn’t watching the dog well. I guess they changed the dog’s name as well. She was very friendly in conversation and told my husband she sees me outside with the baby. The baby is our dog.
We have not seen any presents in our yard since. Our camera is sitting in the box still.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 23, 2017 16:20:53 GMT
Some people suck. Can you install a motion activated sprinkler over there?
Talk to the husband since the wife may be unstable. Finally, if you find out it is them and they don't do anything, I would absolutely start putting it in their yard.
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Post by anonrefugee on Sept 23, 2017 16:36:31 GMT
Do you have a good Animal Services department in your town? I know it's a hassle for you, but Id consider installing cameras. Once you have the culprit on video you can take that info to the Animal Sevices. Ours allows anonymous reports, and supposedly withhold your name when you report.
Repeated times off leash would result in a visit here. I'd do whatever it took to abate this before the puppy becomes full size.
If I stooped to the level of tossing poop in someone's yard it would probably be a false assumption, while neighbor would have me on video doing it! But joking aside, do you want to live that life? Handle it matter of factly.
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Post by aljack on Sept 23, 2017 16:39:47 GMT
Some people suck. Can you install a motion activated sprinkler over there? Talk to the husband since the wife may be unstable. Finally, if you find out it is them and they don't do anything, I would absolutely start putting it in their yard. Yes, I will definitely talk to the husband over the wife. He talks with me when I am outside. He is very particular about his yard and I see him scooping up the waste so I have to believe he must know they are light on loads. 😂 I don’t want to install a sprinkler if walkers, runners, or children use the sidewalk area. I thought about trying to get it centralized on the yard but my dog also likes to use that area at times. I am angry that I have to do something to combat the situation that could be a hassle for us. It’s just poor pet owners. Thanks for reply. BTW.. I think husband is in agreement with you on putting on their side.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 23, 2017 16:46:22 GMT
On man, that's nasty!
Sorry your neighbor sucks.
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Post by aljack on Sept 23, 2017 16:51:44 GMT
Do you have a good Animal Services department in your town? I know it's a hassle for you, but Id consider installing cameras. Once you have the culprit on video you can take that info to the Animal Sevices. Ours allows anonymous reports, and supposedly withhold your name when you report. Repeated times off leash would result in a visit here. I'd do whatever it took to abate this before the puppy becomes full size. If I stooped to the level of tossing poop in someone's yard it would probably be a false assumption, while neighbor would have me on video doing it! But joking aside, do you want to live that life? Handle it matter of factly. I will check on the animal services coming out since he is off leash. I know it is against the law for them to be off leash. However, not sure if dog is on their property that it is illegal. I hate to say this but I don’t think he is legally tagged for our county either. We never see him with a collar. We are installing camera and hope to catch the culprit and confront because that is the best way to deal with the 💩. I don’t think putting back is worth it. It’s passive aggressive and more effort. It doesn’t confront the issue which is where I stand. My husband thinks the wife is the responsible party because he watched her this morning come to our yard from across the street. He said she didn’t see him at first but their puppy noticed ours and barked. Then she looked up and called her puppy. Again, he was off leash. I suspect that we will see soon enough and if talking to husband doesn’t work we will have to find another answer.
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Post by freecharlie on Sept 23, 2017 16:57:56 GMT
Do you have a good Animal Services department in your town? I know it's a hassle for you, but Id consider installing cameras. Once you have the culprit on video you can take that info to the Animal Sevices. Ours allows anonymous reports, and supposedly withhold your name when you report. Repeated times off leash would result in a visit here. I'd do whatever it took to abate this before the puppy becomes full size. If I stooped to the level of tossing poop in someone's yard it would probably be a false assumption, while neighbor would have me on video doing it! But joking aside, do you want to live that life? Handle it matter of factly. I will check on the animal services coming out since he is off leash. I know it is against the law for them to be off leash. However, not sure if dog is on their property that it is illegal. I hate to say this but I don’t think he is legally tagged for our county either. We never see him with a collar. We are installing camera and hope to catch the culprit and confront because that is the best way to deal with the 💩. I don’t think putting back is worth it. It’s passive aggressive and more effort. It doesn’t confront the issue which is where I stand. My husband thinks the wife is the responsible party because he watched her this morning come to our yard from across the street. He said she didn’t see him at first but their puppy noticed ours and barked. Then she looked up and called her puppy. Again, he was off leash. I suspect that we will see soon enough and if talking to husband doesn’t work we will have to find another answer. i am all for confronting, but if that doesn't work, I would be passive aggressive all the way. If you do all the responsible steps and it doesn't stop and you have proof it is their dog and then do nothing else, it will continue. He'll I'd clean it up and know k on their door and give them the bag of 💩 and ask that they please not let their dog use you yard. Then I'd start putting it in their yard every stinking time Ugh hate it when people don't clean up after their pets
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Post by librarylady on Sept 23, 2017 17:20:54 GMT
I would call animal control and report dog off leash. It counts (at least in our city) even if the dog is in their yard.
I also vote for motion activated sprinkler. Turn it on during the time she is known to take the dog out and off during the human jogging times.
Security camera will settle it.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 23, 2017 17:28:03 GMT
Some people suck. Can you install a motion activated sprinkler over there? Talk to the husband since the wife may be unstable. Finally, if you find out it is them and they don't do anything, I would absolutely start putting it in their yard.That would have been my first suggestion. Yes, unleashed dogs can go where they shouldn't, so you clean up after them each and every time. If you don't, don't be surprised when it ends up on your lawn anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 17:34:13 GMT
That's awful! Until your camera is installed, putting up a sign that says your property is under video surveillance might deter the culprit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 18:06:33 GMT
I have a similar problem. We have a German Shepard that never ever leaves our yard, yet my neighbor's let their little dogs shit all over my yard in the front.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 23, 2017 18:48:30 GMT
That's awful! Until your camera is installed, putting up a sign that says your property is under video surveillance might deter the culprit. I've seen signs that say something like, "Smile! You're on camera!" with a picture of a video camera. If you Google it, there are tons of inexpensive options. I also would install a motion sensing sprinkler system too.
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 23, 2017 19:10:54 GMT
I'm curious about the property line. Is your yard technically where she wished her property line was?
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Post by txdancermom on Sept 23, 2017 19:15:28 GMT
How frustrating! We have neighbors with a ever changing collection of little dogs, who think every our yard, although across the street, is part of their territory and I am sure they are the ones responsible for the "presents" we find in our yard.
However, asking the owners to come and pick up the leavings is useless, they are old and have a hard time getting around and there is no way they would be able to come and get it
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Post by destined2bmom on Sept 23, 2017 19:24:54 GMT
I am sorry that you are dealing with this neighbor. I would also be mad. We have a little dog and we never allow him to use other neighbors' yards as his bathroom and we keep him on a leash. But we have two sets of neighbors with big dogs, who are never on leashes and I see their waste in areas that are on the end of the street, but not in anyone's yards. Two of the dogs are very territorial and have come after us when we walk up and down the street. It is frightening and frustrating that the owners aren't more responsible for their dogs.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 23, 2017 19:29:53 GMT
How frustrating! We have neighbors with a ever changing collection of little dogs, who think every our yard, although across the street, is part of their territory and I am sure they are the ones responsible for the "presents" we find in our yard. However, asking the owners to come and pick up the leavings is useless, they are old and have a hard time getting around and there is no way they would be able to come and get it We have a man in a wheelchair that walks his dog every day. Sometimes the dog chooses to go in our yard. I am sure that our yard smells delicious with the two dogs' scents that live here. He always picks up his dog's crap regardless and he is an a wheelchair. I think if you allow your dogs to wander, you should be responsible.
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Post by mcscrapper on Sept 23, 2017 19:41:14 GMT
I had a neighbor that did this. Thought it was perfectly ok to allow her dog to roam and poop in my front yard.
No one else had a big dog nearby and saw the dog off leash multiple times so it stood to reason that it was her. I was nice at first with a "Hey, in the interest of remaining friendly neighbors, I'd really appreciate if you would at least pick your dog's waste out of my yard." She acted all offended like it couldn't possibly be her dog. Then I caught 'em. I worked nights at the time so didn't really want to stay up all day to catch him but one day I did. Took a pic with my phone and 'erthing.
I showed her the pics and said, "I thought you were certain it wasn't your dog." The poop was in the same general area too so there really was no denying it was her. After showing her the pic I said, "Listen, since you can't deny it was your dog now, at least pick it up when he goes." She acted all put out that it was beneath her to have to pick up after him. That dam dog still pooped so I started scooping it in a shovel and tossing it in her yard. Some may or may not have accidentally gotten on her front porch one time. I think she got the message after that.
I would try to talk to her husband if you can. I'd try to kill 'em with kindness to start with. If that doesn't work, I'd escalate the issue. If you do have a property manager or HOA, I would take it up with them if talking to them doesn't work.
We sure have talked a lot about poop on here lately. We are some sick peas!!
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Post by aljack on Sept 23, 2017 19:48:32 GMT
I had a neighbor that did this. Thought it was perfectly ok to allow her dog to roam and poop in my front yard. No one else had a big dog nearby and saw the dog off leash multiple times so it stood to reason that it was her. I was nice at first with a "Hey, in the interest of remaining friendly neighbors, I'd really appreciate if you would at least pick your dog's waste out of my yard." She acted all offended like it couldn't possibly be her dog. Then I caught 'em. I worked nights at the time so didn't really want to stay up all day to catch him but one day I did. Took a pic with my phone and 'erthing. I showed her the pics and said, "I thought you were certain it wasn't your dog." The poop was in the same general area too so there really was no denying it was her. After showing her the pic I said, "Listen, since you can't deny it was your dog now, at least pick it up when he goes." She acted all put out that it was beneath her to have to pick up after him. That dam dog still pooped so I started scooping it in a shovel and tossing it in her yard. Some may or may not have accidentally gotten on her front porch one time. I think she got the message after that. I would try to talk to her husband if you can. I'd try to kill 'em with kindness to start with. If that doesn't work, I'd escalate the issue. If you do have a property manager or HOA, I would take it up with them if talking to them doesn't work. We sure have talked a lot about poop on here lately. We are some sick peas!! Poop talks are becoming too much for me! I just don’t get it. However, I appreciate you sharing your story and hope we don’t have to fling 💩 to get a result.
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Post by aljack on Sept 23, 2017 20:02:26 GMT
I'm curious about the property line. Is your yard technically where she wished her property line was? Yes, I am sure she wishes she had more yard after realizing what was her property lines. Our builder staked our yard before digging, which she pulled out on her. The PM said she was a spitfire and we needed to make nice with her because she was causing trouble for his workers. We then asked the builder to have it officially surveyed and pinned before settling. We also asked for them to speak with her about the property lines because we didn’t want to deal with it and felt they should clarify before we moved in. After we moved in, she paid a private surveyor to come out and stake it. Sure enough, the stakes were correct. After two months she built a 5 foot industrial aluminum fence and dug up her rose bushes and such to rehome. Therefore, she knows the boundaries in my book because she had to provide a plat to have her fence installed and show where it was going. She put it right on the line. We were fine with fence because we knew we were planning the same.
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Post by librarylady on Sept 23, 2017 20:41:06 GMT
Our city has a fine of $100 for failing to PU after your dog.
Several years ago we had a minister (!) who lived across the street. At the time, his back yard was adjacent to an open field of about 5 acres. However, he would walk his dog across the street to our yard to do its business. He never picked up. I caught his roommate one day and firmly told the man to PU after the animal or I would notify the city. I also said, "If you don't want the dog's poop in your yard, what makes you think I want it in my yard?" --No response. A few months passed and one morning when I was leaving for work, the minister came with the dog. I pulled away, seething, and then turned around and returned. I stopped beside the man and dog and asked, "Are you planning on picking up after the dog?" He tried to divert my conversation to other things (I heard you made a trip to Russia.) I used the broken record technique of just repeating my question. At some point he even said, "You already spoke to my roommate." I wanted to go down the path of "then WTH is wrong with you if you know I don't want poop in the yard?" But, I knew he was trying to divert me. I continued my broken record question. I did remind him it was a $100 fine. Finally after several times of me repeating the question, he did say he intended to PU after the dog. Lucky for me--he moved within 10 days.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 23, 2017 20:57:31 GMT
One of our old neighbors used to scoop up poop with a big shovel and "return it" to whatever neighbors dog did the deed!
She'd walk around the block and knock on a door and tell them "your dog left something in my yard", lol!!
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 23, 2017 22:42:56 GMT
I'm curious about the property line. Is your yard technically where she wished her property line was? Yes, I am sure she wishes she had more yard after realizing what was her property lines. Our builder staked our yard before digging, which she pulled out on her. The PM said she was a spitfire and we needed to make nice with her because she was causing trouble for his workers. We then asked the builder to have it officially surveyed and pinned before settling. We also asked for them to speak with her about the property lines because we didn’t want to deal with it and felt they should clarify before we moved in. After we moved in, she paid a private surveyor to come out and stake it. Sure enough, the stakes were correct. After two months she built a 5 foot industrial aluminum fence and dug up her rose bushes and such to rehome. Therefore, she knows the boundaries in my book because she had to provide a plat to have her fence installed and show where it was going. She put it right on the line. We were fine with fence because we knew we were planning the same. So I think I know her type. Selfish, entitled, yells to get their way, sees YOU as the problem, hence the reason she never reciprocates greetings. In her mind, it's all your fault. She does not like you simply because you exist and (rightfully) have a portion of "her" yard. The moment you pulled up she hated you. She's acts childish (tantrum to builder), passive-agressive (planting roses), and pretends to just not hear you. In my opinion, there is no nice way to deal with her. Just like the fence, she is going to act like it's hers because she doesn't give a sh%# and will not pick it up until law is involved. I think she is too crafty to tolerate you putting poop back in her yard. You could end up in hot water. Harassment, littering, etc. I'm sure there would be a police report in your future because she's nuts. This isn't just a lazy neighbor you can reason with. Your best bet is to wait for your camera, get proof, and notify the city of the poop (almost always illegal) and leashless (illegal) unlicensed dogs (illegal). This woman is so selfishly entitled that only law will stop her. I would not ever even talk to her about the poop. It will go exactly nowhere, and she may even get more joy out of making sure they go there.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Sept 23, 2017 22:52:47 GMT
That's awful! Until your camera is installed, putting up a sign that says your property is under video surveillance might deter the culprit. I've seen signs that say something like, "Smile! You're on camera!" with a picture of a video camera. If you Google it, there are tons of inexpensive options. I also would install a motion sensing sprinkler system too. It's a shame that the sprinkler system couldn't do a good dosing of skunk-scented water.
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Post by melanell on Sept 24, 2017 3:26:15 GMT
You could do what I once saw a household do when their neighbors' house was for sale, and put "no trespassing" signs every 5 feet down the entire property line. I guess they really wanted people to know where their property began!
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Post by baslp on Sept 24, 2017 11:58:16 GMT
I know that for barking dogs people can call Animal control in some of out townships. They have ordinances about how long or how much a dog can bark outside. In one place the dog gets up to 9 vocal utterances. This can be easier and cheaper to document than catching a dog pooping in your yard
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Post by styxgirl on Sept 24, 2017 13:31:53 GMT
I had a neighbor that did this. Thought it was perfectly ok to allow her dog to roam and poop in my front yard. No one else had a big dog nearby and saw the dog off leash multiple times so it stood to reason that it was her. I was nice at first with a "Hey, in the interest of remaining friendly neighbors, I'd really appreciate if you would at least pick your dog's waste out of my yard." She acted all offended like it couldn't possibly be her dog. Then I caught 'em. I worked nights at the time so didn't really want to stay up all day to catch him but one day I did. Took a pic with my phone and 'erthing. I showed her the pics and said, "I thought you were certain it wasn't your dog." The poop was in the same general area too so there really was no denying it was her. After showing her the pic I said, "Listen, since you can't deny it was your dog now, at least pick it up when he goes." She acted all put out that it was beneath her to have to pick up after him. That dam dog still pooped so I started scooping it in a shovel and tossing it in her yard. Some may or may not have accidentally gotten on her front porch one time. I think she got the message after that. I would try to talk to her husband if you can. I'd try to kill 'em with kindness to start with. If that doesn't work, I'd escalate the issue. If you do have a property manager or HOA, I would take it up with them if talking to them doesn't work. We sure have talked a lot about poop on here lately. We are some sick peas!! LOLOLOL! This cracked me up!
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Post by Horse scrap on Sept 24, 2017 22:38:45 GMT
Just a thought, but you might mention to the husband to have the puppy checked for digestive issues. One of our shepherds had similar sounding stools. She has EPI and has to be on meds the rest of her life. It has to do with the pancreas and could lead to death eventually if not treated.
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Post by aljack on Sept 28, 2017 21:14:51 GMT
Bump for update
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Sept 28, 2017 21:59:14 GMT
Great update, so far. I hope they got the hint, although I'd be absolutely shocked if they did!!
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 28, 2017 23:48:37 GMT
I would have the neighbor's phone number on speed dial and each and every time I found a pile I would call them and ask them to come and clean up their mess. Each and every time.
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