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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 18, 2018 22:46:14 GMT
David Turpin, 56, and Louise Turpin, 49, were charged with 12 counts of torture, he said. David Turpin, he said, also was charged with a lewd act on a child by force or fear of duress. "This is severe, emotional, physical abuse. ... This is depraved conduct," Riverside County District Attorney Mike Hestrin said. Of the victims, Hestrin said: "They're relieved. ... Their health is being looked at. They're in good hands. As far as where they're going to end up, I don't know." Other charges include seven counts of abuse of a dependent adult, six counts of child abuse or neglect and 12 counts of false imprisonment. Hestrin did not say whether both suspects face the last three sets of charges. "Punishment would last weeks or even months at a time," Hestrin said. Evidence, he added, suggests the victims often were not released from their chains to go to the bathroom. It "started out as neglect" and became severe, pervasive child abuse, Hestrin said.
The torture included beatings and chokings, the DA said. The children were allowed to write in journals, and hundreds have been taken into evidence.
David and Louise Turpin's alleged abuse of their children started when they lived in the Fort Worth, Texas, area and intensified when they moved to California in 2010, the prosecutor said. The charges cover alleged acts in Riverside County from 2010 to the present. Pointing to the children's malnourishment, Hestrin said that a 12-year-old has the weight of an average 7-year-old, and a 29-year-old daughter weighs 82 pounds.
The parents would buy food and apparently let the children see it, but not eat it. This included pies left on the counter, Hestrin said. Besides suffering severe caloric malnutrition associated with muscle wasting, several have cognitive impairment and "neuropathy, which is nerve damage, as a result of this extreme and prolonged physical abuse," Hestrin said. More at link www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/us/turpin-family-investigation/index.htmlBail is now 12 Million each! |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 18, 2018 22:53:44 GMT
i watched the press conference. very sad. i think more charges will come as they progress in their investigation. when the DA was talking about how the 17 year old and another child escaped, my heart was beating fast as he described how the 2nd child got scared and ran back to the house. i'm so glad the 17 year old running for help but i couldn't help but wonder what happened when the 2nd kid made it back to the house. did the parents know there was an escape? did they start panicking? the DA said the parents only had time to unshackle two kids before the police came in. it's all so crazy.
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Post by kelly8875 on Jan 18, 2018 22:57:33 GMT
I have no words. Disgusting. Those poor kids.  |
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Post by J u l e e on Jan 18, 2018 22:58:26 GMT
They allowed the kids to write in journals? Hundreds of them? How odd. Why would they allow that? And keep all of them knowing what they contained? Unless they made them write things that weren't true. I just thought of that as I was typing.
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Post by gar on Jan 18, 2018 23:11:01 GMT
Bastards 🤬
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 18, 2018 23:15:09 GMT
Such evil is hard to imagine. I'm agnostic, but I hope for a special place in hell for people who hurt children.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 18, 2018 23:19:51 GMT
The authorities are reading the journals, so some learned how to write/read.
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Post by destined2bmom on Jan 18, 2018 23:20:17 GMT
This is pure evil. 😡 I am glad the parents have been caught. Those poor children.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 18, 2018 23:23:26 GMT
The BBC report says they are pleading not guilty. Please don't say there is likely to be any chance they could actually get away with this.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jan 18, 2018 23:24:30 GMT
if there is any justice, they will be subjected to the worst of what prison life has to offer.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 18, 2018 23:25:40 GMT
They allowed the kids to write in journals? Hundreds of them? How odd. Why would they allow that? And keep all of them knowing what they contained? Unless they made them write things that weren't true. I just thought of that as I was typing. i thought the same thing too when i heard the DA talking about the journals. i can't imagine the kids were free to write openly and honestly in those journals. and then there was the older child that they allowed to take college classes. the mom would stand outside the classroom and then drive the kids back home. how can that kid even concentrate in class with the mom standing guard? whey even allow that kid to go to college if they are escorted and restricted like that? |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 18, 2018 23:26:04 GMT
The BBC report says they are pleading not guilty. Please don't say there is likely to be any chance they could actually get away with this. Everybody pleads not guilty initially, if for nothing else but a better plea bargain. |
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Post by myshelly on Jan 18, 2018 23:26:10 GMT
The BBC report says they are pleading not guilty. Please don't say there is likely to be any chance they could actually get away with this. No, but it would be exceedingly unusual for anyone to ever plead guilty at this point in proceedings. |
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Post by Lexica on Jan 18, 2018 23:28:25 GMT
You know, the mother's sister said she ran away with the father when she was 16 years old and that her husband was very controlling. And supposedly there was abuse in their childhood home as well. I wonder if the mother was a willing participant in the abuse of the kids. I am not defending her at all, I'm just wondering because I cannot see myself, as a mother, ever hurting my children. And most of the mothers I know would not be able to abuse their kids. I wonder if her fear of the husband or just years of brainwashing contributed to it. She did participate, so she needs to go down every bit as much as the father does, I'm just wondering how a mother can watch her children starve like this. It goes against every basic instinct.
Also, watching them attempt to sway to the music and snap their fingers, as the kids were trying to do, looked so incredibly awkward.
Final thought, I can't wait until they shave off that father's stupid hair! It makes me gag.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 18, 2018 23:28:55 GMT
The BBC report says they are pleading not guilty. Please don't say there is likely to be any chance they could actually get away with this. Everybody pleads not guilty initially, if for nothing else but a better plea bargain. Ah. Of course. That probably happens over here too. I wasn't really thinking in my horror. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 18, 2018 23:37:40 GMT
and then there was the older child that they allowed to take college classes. the mom would stand outside the classroom and then drive the kids back home. how can that kid even concentrate in class with the mom standing guard? whey even allow that kid to go to college if they are escorted and restricted like that? Really, explains how the journals got written. TFS! |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 18, 2018 23:43:34 GMT
The BBC report says they are pleading not guilty. Please don't say there is likely to be any chance they could actually get away with this. No, but it would be exceedingly unusual for anyone to ever plead guilty at this point in proceedings. faced with the public backlash and amount of charges, they should just plead guilty right now to lesser charges and take mandatory sentences (still with long sentences). let's avoid the public circus of their trials and the stress on the kids that will have to testify against them. the DA said they will do their best to protect the kids but that does not exclude them from having to testify. those kids have been through enough without having to face their parents again. |
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Post by gloryjoy on Jan 18, 2018 23:46:00 GMT
You know I honestly don't have any words. I'm sitting here reading this and my heart just feels sad and broken. It's beyond anything I can comprehend.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jan 18, 2018 23:53:44 GMT
Its just disgusting. I cannot even imagine doing this to an animal let alone my child.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Jan 18, 2018 23:56:56 GMT
Re the journals, maybe the sicko parents got a thrill reading the kids' entries, and/or it was another way to control the kids (knowing what they were thinking/feeling would give the parents a lot of power).  |
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Post by MichyM on Jan 18, 2018 23:59:13 GMT
David Turpin, 56, and Louise Turpin, 49, were charged with 12 counts of torture, he said. David Turpin, he said, also was charged with a lewd act on a child by force or fear of duress. "This is severe, emotional, physical abuse. ... This is depraved conduct," Riverside County District Attorney Mike Hestrin said. Of the victims, Hestrin said: "They're relieved. ... Their health is being looked at. They're in good hands. As far as where they're going to end up, I don't know." Other charges include seven counts of abuse of a dependent adult, six counts of child abuse or neglect and 12 counts of false imprisonment. Hestrin did not say whether both suspects face the last three sets of charges. "Punishment would last weeks or even months at a time," Hestrin said. Evidence, he added, suggests the victims often were not released from their chains to go to the bathroom. It "started out as neglect" and became severe, pervasive child abuse, Hestrin said.
The torture included beatings and chokings, the DA said. The children were allowed to write in journals, and hundreds have been taken into evidence.
David and Louise Turpin's alleged abuse of their children started when they lived in the Fort Worth, Texas, area and intensified when they moved to California in 2010, the prosecutor said. The charges cover alleged acts in Riverside County from 2010 to the present. Pointing to the children's malnourishment, Hestrin said that a 12-year-old has the weight of an average 7-year-old, and a 29-year-old daughter weighs 82 pounds.
The parents would buy food and apparently let the children see it, but not eat it. This included pies left on the counter, Hestrin said. Besides suffering severe caloric malnutrition associated with muscle wasting, several have cognitive impairment and "neuropathy, which is nerve damage, as a result of this extreme and prolonged physical abuse," Hestrin said. More at link www.cnn.com/2018/01/18/us/turpin-family-investigation/index.htmlBail is now 12 Million each! Jùst reading this, nothing more, makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. Truly. I don't think I ever want to know any more details, other than that the kids are making strides in their recovery. I can't even imagine law enforcement and therapists having to read those journals for information, those poor, poor children. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jan 19, 2018 0:07:40 GMT
I read somewhere that she was acting crazy when they arrested her spitting and giving crazy looks - maybe she is trying to get off on insanity but I sure hope not.
When they started reading the charges and the time frame my heart just sank for those kids. The fact they haven't had any real schooling either is just so sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 0:26:59 GMT
and then there was the older child that they allowed to take college classes. the mom would stand outside the classroom and then drive the kids back home. how can that kid even concentrate in class with the mom standing guard? whey even allow that kid to go to college if they are escorted and restricted like that? That's another thing I can't get my head round....no one at that college questioned the fact that the mum was there? It isn't as if it's normal behaviour for a parent to sit outside a college classroom. No one noticed how malnourished the child was either? |
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Post by peabay on Jan 19, 2018 0:29:41 GMT
I literally cannot listen to or read anything about this story. I made the mistake of reading the first story about it and it hurt my heart so much, I can't read any more. Those poor children - how will they ever heal and be whole? At least they have each other, but it's such a tragedy.
I'm not really in favor of the death penalty, but I would happily volunteer to pull the switch on the electric chair for both parents. And then sleep like a baby that night. They are monsters.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 0:34:15 GMT
Re the journals, maybe the sicko parents got a thrill reading the kids' entries, and/or it was another way to control the kids (knowing what they were thinking/feeling would give the parents a lot of power). Unless it was a perverted kind of penance that the kids had to write these journals, sort of a confession for their " sins". God, I hope they rot in hell, the only place for them and that even seems to good for them. |
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Post by birukitty on Jan 19, 2018 0:38:06 GMT
I've been sitting here quietly for two days taking in this story and it makes me so sick and disgusted what these "parents" did to their children. I want them to suffer just as much as they made their children suffer because what they did is inexcusable. It's beyond reason. What kind of mother just sits there and lets her children starve? Not to mention all of the other abuse they had to suffer through? It goes against every instinct that nature puts inside a mother to protect the survival of that child. Heck, it's even in animal mothers. Cat moms and dog moms treat their pups and kittens better than this.
I'm not naive and I know that some children in this world face a life of abuse every day sadly. I guess this one hit hard because it was such a big family with a lot of children that suffered. Thank goodness for the bravery and tenaciousness of the 17 year old. She saved herself and all of her siblings. She is the hero of this story.
My greatest hope is that these two "parents" get a long enough jail sentence that they will never see the light of day again before they are very old and gray not getting out until they are about 99 or so because there can be no chance that they are released to start something like this again. Even that's not enough. What would be best would be to shut them up in a dark, dirty, dank cell and chain them to a bed and starve them with pies left tantalizingly close for years and years like they did to their own children.
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Post by J u l e e on Jan 19, 2018 0:43:21 GMT
I literally cannot listen to or read anything about this story. I made the mistake of reading the first story about it and it hurt my heart so much, I can't read any more. Those poor children - how will they ever heal and be whole? At least they have each other, but it's such a tragedy. I'm not really in favor of the death penalty, but I would happily volunteer to pull the switch on the electric chair for both parents. And then sleep like a baby that night. They are monsters. I feel the same. I don't even want to see any of the photos. I wish I could unread the details I've read here. It's haunting. I just really want to hug that brave girl planning her escape for two years and tell her how amazing she is. |
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Post by librarylady on Jan 19, 2018 0:55:01 GMT
They deserve to get what they gave/did to the children....but then some decent human would have to administer the punishment.
We don't need to mess up another human by making that person administer the torture.
I hope they get life with no parole.
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Post by peabay on Jan 19, 2018 0:56:16 GMT
They deserve to get what they gave/did to the children....but then some decent human would have to administer the punishment. We don't need to mess up another human by making that person administer the torture. I hope they get life with no parole. I volunteer as tribute. |
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Post by gillyp on Jan 19, 2018 1:11:02 GMT
Thank goodness for the bravery and tenaciousness of the 17 year old. She saved herself and all of her siblings. She is the hero of this story. When you read how little the children were allowed to know of the outside world, it's even more remarkable that the 17 year old was able to do this. In my mind all the children are heroes for surviving. I hope they are able to lean on each other and gain comfort from each other and that their road to normalcy is not too difficult. |
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