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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 4:30:59 GMT
His former staffer is having his child. "Mr Joyce's statement sets out that he and his former media adviser Ms Campion are having a child together in mid-April. He asks for privacy, saying: "This has been a searing personal experience for Natalie, our daughters and for Vikki." "In an interview with ABC's 7.30 program on Wednesday night, Joyce refused to address the report, or his wife's statement, saying that he didn't understand why private matters need to be dragged into the public arena." But he was quite happy to drag LGBT couples' private lives into the public arena when he was scoring points w/the bigots fighting marriage equality in Australia. "For years, Joyce campaigned against same-sex marriage by arguing it would fundamentally degrade an institution founded on traditional notions of love and partnership. In 2011, Joyce told attendees at an anti-marriage equality rally (organised by the Australian Christian Lobby and the Australian Family Association) that same-sex marriage would negatively affect his four daughters." Seems like he's doing a bang-up job negatively impacting his four daughters all by himself. |
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 13, 2018 4:34:39 GMT
There is no limit to the shame I wish on him.
The sanctity of marriage just rolled over in it's grave.
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Post by Heathen on Feb 13, 2018 5:09:18 GMT
It's nice to know that other countries' right wing politicians are as hypocritical as the United States'.  |
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 13, 2018 5:11:46 GMT
Something else about Mr Barnaby Joyce that will interest you: He was against free Gardasil vaccinations for girls because it could be considered to be "a licence to be promiscuous". Ah, the absolute hypocrisy of the conservative right. It's not just in the US. Edited to add link: Barnaby Joyce's other betrayal |
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Post by stittsygirl on Feb 13, 2018 5:13:17 GMT
It's nice to know that other countries' right wing politicians are as hypocritical as the United States'. Ain’t it the truth. My own mom tried the whole “sanctity of marriage” argument with me years ago when we were still fighting for marriage equality here. I asked her which of her three marriages was most sanctified. That shut her up real quick  . |
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 13, 2018 5:21:45 GMT
I like this quote that I saw:
In other words, don't be a dick, or it could come back and bite you in the arse.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 5:35:34 GMT
Every time I read about some simpleton like Joyce, who thinks all life's answers are to be found in a simple little package, I think of two couples who are friends of our family. One is a lesbian couple w/2 kids married 8 years. The other is a gay couple w/2 kids married over 10 years. Just living their lives, minding their business, raising their kids, trying to be good and teach them to be good - and my blood boils at his idiocy in thinking they are in some way a threat to his marriage. F#($*ing someone who is not your wife, Joyce. THAT is the threat to your marriage.
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Post by ScrapsontheRocks on Feb 13, 2018 5:55:00 GMT
Another do as I say, not do as I do idiot unmasked. Good.
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Post by stittsygirl on Feb 13, 2018 6:00:21 GMT
Every time I read about some simpleton like Joyce, who thinks all life's answers are to be found in a simple little package, I think of two couples who are friends of our family. One is a lesbian couple w/2 kids married 8 years. The other is a gay couple w/2 kids married over 10 years. Just living their lives, minding their business, raising their kids, trying to be good and teach them to be good - and my blood boils at his idiocy in thinking they are in some way a threat to his marriage. F#($*ing someone who is not your wife, Joyce. THAT is the threat to your marriage. TBH, I’m really hoping my son and his super-serious boyfriend don’t get married... at this time... because they are only 18 and 20 respectively  . But I’d be really happy if they did marry when they are older. My son’s boyfriend gifted me with some vintage Pyrex he’d picked up at an antique store in the Midwest when he came to visit in December, because he likes antique stores and vintage Pyrex. He sent my son the most gorgeous bouquet of flowers today for Valentine’s Day. He’s a keeper  . |
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 13, 2018 6:15:30 GMT
I like this quote that I saw: In other words, don't USE YOUR dick, or it could come back and bite you in the arse. Fixed that for ya.... |
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Post by lucyg on Feb 13, 2018 6:39:13 GMT
There is no limit to the shame I wish on him. The sanctity of marriage just rolled over in it's grave.I think I Liked every post in this thread. But this (bolded text above) wins the prize for best line of the day. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 13, 2018 7:04:31 GMT
Another entitled male who thinks with his penis.
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Post by wellway on Feb 13, 2018 7:53:44 GMT
Barnaby Joyce, I've heard that name before, wasn't he caught up in the dual citizenship row and disqualified from office last year but later re-elected?
People in glasshouses etc
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Post by hannahruth on Feb 13, 2018 10:01:00 GMT
Barnaby Joyce, I've heard that name before, wasn't he caught up in the dual citizenship row and disqualified from office last year but later re-elected? People in glasshouses etc Oh yeah that is the same one - prize dickhead if there ever was one. He obviously wasn't practicing safe sex - wonder how that left the first Mrs Jones feeling! As someone else said what a hypocrite. |
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Post by verdepea on Feb 13, 2018 15:28:38 GMT
Barnaby Joyce, I've heard that name before, wasn't he caught up in the dual citizenship row and disqualified from office last year but later re-elected? People in glasshouses etc Oh yeah that is the same one - prize dickhead if there ever was one. He obviously wasn't practicing safe sex - wonder how that left the first Mrs Jones feeling! As someone else said what a hypocrite. I read his wife was hurt, that she put her own career on hold for 23 years to support his political career. So much for a safe and supportive marriage. She's humiliated and I hope she has pit on her bitch boots and makes sure she is fairly compensated for her support. Not a dime less than she is owes fair and square. I hope the mistress wises up too and doesn't fall for his gas lighting narrasistic bullshit. I think the hypocritical bullshit from the Christian Family Value Tribe is being exposed across nations. This is why the women's march has gone global. It's not just the USA. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 13, 2018 16:56:03 GMT
I'll never understand, or accept, the idea that unless you, yourself, are perfect you don't get to have a moral belief.
Then again, it sure is an easy way to dismiss that moral viewpoint, isn't it?
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Post by peabay on Feb 13, 2018 16:59:52 GMT
What a douche.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 13, 2018 17:01:05 GMT
It's nice to know that other countries' right wing politicians are as hypocritical as the United States'. Ain’t it the truth. My own mom tried the whole “sanctity of marriage” argument with me years ago when we were still fighting for marriage equality here. I asked her which of her three marriages was most sanctified. That shut her up real quick . Good one!! TFS!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 13, 2018 17:07:35 GMT
TBH, I’m really hoping my son and his super-serious boyfriend don’t get married... at this time... because they are only 18 and 20 respectively . But I’d be really happy if they did marry when they are older. My son’s boyfriend gifted me with some vintage Pyrex he’d picked up at an antique store in the Midwest when he came to visit in December, because he likes antique stores and vintage Pyrex. He sent my son the most gorgeous bouquet of flowers today for Valentine’s Day. He’s a keeper . Have you told your DS that, so he knows.. But I guess he already knows you support him... |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 13, 2018 17:46:35 GMT
I'll never understand, or accept, the idea that unless you, yourself, are perfect you don't get to have a moral belief. Then again, it sure is an easy way to dismiss that moral viewpoint, isn't it? For me, I have absolutely zero problem with imperfect people having moral beliefs. I myself am an imperfect person with moral beliefs. People aren't perfect. I do have a problem when they openly judge and disparage others who don't share their beliefs and then don't follow them themselves. And I especially have an issue with someone trying to legislate their religious beliefs on the masses, vote in a way that forces others to live as they personally believe, and then don't live that way themselves. eta: Politicians are in a position of power and directly impact people's lives with their jobs. I feel they should be held to a higher standard. |
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Post by verdepea on Feb 13, 2018 18:08:13 GMT
I'll never understand, or accept, the idea that unless you, yourself, are perfect you don't get to have a moral belief. Then again, it sure is an easy way to dismiss that moral viewpoint, isn't it? If he was unhappy with his marriage, he should have sought a divorce, and pursued a relationship after the divorce was final. Divorces happen ALL THE TIME. Mr. Joyce (and the like) can have all the ( individual) beliefs they want, in this case his belief is marriage should only be between a (ONE) man and a (ONE) Woman. Mr. Joyce is in position of power to influence public policy (societal) that denigrates and discriminates against others who do not *their* shared beliefs and then does not follow HIS own belief system is hypocritical. His MORAL beliefs, position of power, and actions have brought hurt and devastation to the LGBT community by stating they were a threat to marriage. He brought trauma on his wife who stood by him to support his career and they had children. He IS NOT a safe spouse. He had the choice NOT to engage in a relationship outside of his marriage, but he did not. He does now say whoops, I am just a man that makes mistakes, that makes me a sinner, and I should simply be forgiven without consequences. He wants his personal life to be private but he didn't respect the private lives of the LBGT community. Again, he could have upheld his moral beliefs, his integrity, his respect for his wife and daughters by initiating a divorce if he was finding himself no longer invested in the marriage. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:03:31 GMT
It's nice to know that other countries' right wing politicians are as hypocritical as the United States'. Fixed that for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:26:29 GMT
It's one thing to have a moral belief, it's another entirely to foist that moral belief on others while doing the total opposite of said belief behind your wife's back.
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 13, 2018 20:37:50 GMT
I'll never understand, or accept, the idea that unless you, yourself, are perfect you don't get to have a moral belief. Then again, it sure is an easy way to dismiss that moral viewpoint, isn't it? For me, I have absolutely zero problem with imperfect people having moral beliefs. I myself am an imperfect person with moral beliefs. People aren't perfect. I do have a problem when they openly judge and disparage others who don't share their beliefs and then don't follow them themselves. And I especially have an issue with someone trying to legislate their religious beliefs on the masses, vote in a way that forces others to live as they personally believe, and then don't live that way themselves. eta: Politicians are in a position of power and directly impact people's lives with their jobs. I feel they should be held to a higher standard. While in theory I agree with the higher-standard, I think history and a review of our current legislative body show that no-one measures up. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 13, 2018 20:38:49 GMT
It's one thing to have a moral belief, it's another entirely to foist that moral belief on others while doing the total opposite of said belief behind your wife's back. The guy's a dirt-bag. No question about it. But, that doesn't mean his moral belief is wrong or that he was wrong for espousing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:52:05 GMT
or that he was wrong for espousing it. Of course he was wrong for espousing it, the reasons are obvious. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 13, 2018 20:55:52 GMT
We should ALL practice what we preach. I am willing to bet money none of us do.
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Post by tara on Feb 13, 2018 21:04:32 GMT
We should ALL practice what we preach. I am willing to bet money none of us do. You can call me a lot of things but being a hypocrite isn’t one of them. |
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Post by dewryce on Feb 13, 2018 21:18:32 GMT
We should ALL practice what we preach. I am willing to bet money none of us do. But most of us aren't in a position to vote on and impact laws that affect others. We are not complaining that he said something like "I think a moral person should be nice to people" and then proved himself to be a not nice person. We, at least I, would be complaining if he actively campaigned and voted for laws making people being nice, and then wasn't nice himself. More so if he was a judgemental ass about his beliefs during the campaign. And that's not even getting into the discrimination and equal rights aspect of his beliefs, just the hypocrisy. |
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Post by #notLauren on Feb 13, 2018 21:25:40 GMT
We should ALL practice what we preach. I am willing to bet money none of us do. But most of us aren't in a position to vote on and impact laws that affect others. We are not complaining that he said something like "I think a moral person should be nice to people" and then proved himself to be a not nice person. We, at least I, would be complaining if he actively campaigned and voted for laws making people being nice, and then wasn't nice himself. More so if he was a judgemental ass about his beliefs during the campaign. And that's not even getting into the discrimination and equal rights aspect of his beliefs, just the hypocrisy. He was elected by people who agree with his moral stance. They elected him to have an impact on laws that effect others. If the people who elected him are unhappy with this situation, they will show their displeasure when the next election comes along. But again, I don't know of a politician out there who abides by their campaign promises...not one. I wish it wasn't so but people here only seem to get worked up when the breach of faith involves Christian moral beliefs. |
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