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Post by compeateropeator on May 2, 2018 0:29:48 GMT
Here is a weird poll for you just to shake things up. The FDA is pushing to require pure Maple Syrup containers to include "sugar added" although technically nothing is added, it is a pure natural product. Do you think that this is confusing and people will think that sugar/corn syrup is actually added? Or because it is a natural sweetener it should be required?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 0:34:16 GMT
Not for pure maple syrup.
I wonder if corn syrup is added to cheap maple syrup.
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Post by peasapie on May 2, 2018 0:35:10 GMT
If I read that label, I would think they added cane sugar to maple syrup to make it sweeter. So my answer would be no. Unless there is more to this that I don't understand.
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Post by iluvpink on May 2, 2018 0:36:05 GMT
That seems confusing to me. And stupid. Do people not realize that maple syrup is full of natural sugars/carbs and that's why they think it needs to be added?
Since sugar is not being added, it's just part of the natural product, I don't think it should be on the label and will just cause confusion.
Of course I also hate how so many items are touted as sugar free when they still contain plenty of carbohydrates.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on May 2, 2018 0:37:31 GMT
If I read that label, I would think they added cane sugar to maple syrup to make it sweeter. So my answer would be no. Unless there is more to this that I don't understand. Exactly.
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Post by Really Red on May 2, 2018 0:37:45 GMT
Are these people scientists? "Sugar added" is when you have some sort of product that doesn't naturally have sugar or has natural sugars and then sugar is added to it. Sometimes canned fruit might have it and certainly most processed food have it added in, but maple syrup does not have it added in.
Aargh!
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on May 2, 2018 0:40:48 GMT
That's a weird rule proposal. Are they also going to require the label on honey-- also natural, also sweet, also not because of actually added sugars.
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Post by katlady on May 2, 2018 0:43:19 GMT
Maybe they should label it as "Natural Sugar" instead of using the word "added". And Yes, they plan to do this with honey and cranberries.
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Post by compeateropeator on May 2, 2018 0:50:34 GMT
I also think is it misleading and I am not sure why they are thinking about changing it. I haven't really researched it yet but would like to find out more...as to the why. This is just a short blurb about in in our local news.
MONTPELIER, Vt. (WCAX) Vermont's Congressional delegation says new maple syrup labels the Food and Drug Administration is considering are misleading and will harm the image of the natural product Vermonters have made for generations.
Rep. Peter Welch and Sen. Patrick Leahy, both Democrats, traveled to Morse Farm in Montpelier Tuesday to denounce the FDA's potential label. It would place the the words "sugar added" on containers of pure Maple Syrup. Welch and Leahy say the term is misleading because no sugar is added to the product. Welch says consumers might think the pure maple syrup contains other ingredients.
"There are no added sugars. Maple is a pure product and added sugars to the consumer connotes corn syrup or some other added elements that are not natural," Welch said
Tom Morse of Morse Farm says the federal government should reconsider. "That's just the wrong approach for the federal government to be taking. We don't need that. We need positive marketing. It's a pure, natural product that comes right from the trees, right from the soil," he said.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 2, 2018 0:51:06 GMT
Maybe they should label it as "Natural Sugar" instead of using the word "added". And Yes, they plan to do this with honey and cranberries. Cranberries would make sense when they add sugar - which is what the guidelines appear to say. I think many people don't realize just how tart cranberries are and that sugar IS added. It makes no sense when sugar isn't added. www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/ucm595578.htm
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Post by melanell on May 2, 2018 0:51:49 GMT
That makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I would be baffled if I picked up pure maple product and saw "sugar added". The maple sugar is the sugar. There is no other sugar added.
Adding a label like that is bound to confuse people.
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Post by melanell on May 2, 2018 0:53:11 GMT
I don't understand lumping cranberries together with maple & honey, either. Cranberries often are sold with sweeteners added and that packaging already shows the added sugar in the nutritional information.
Honey & maple ARE the sweeteners.
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Post by melanell on May 2, 2018 0:56:19 GMT
I get that ALL products are supposed to show "added sugars" on the label, but I don't understand why the law requires an amount to be filled in for this if there is no additional sugar added to the product. There are many non-sweetened products on the market.
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Post by artsydaisy on May 2, 2018 1:02:36 GMT
I assumed it was for fake maple syrup when I first saw this. No, sugar isn't added to real maple syrup. This will definitely be confusing to people.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 2, 2018 1:08:48 GMT
So this is their rationale:
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 2, 2018 1:09:22 GMT
No, not unless there is actual sugar *added* to the product beyond what occurs naturally when the sap is boiled down. That would be very misleading. ETA: not to mention just plain stupid. Of course pure maple syrup has naturally occurring sugar in it. Duh!
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Post by compeateropeator on May 2, 2018 1:19:01 GMT
Thanks for looking it up and posting that DarcyCollins. While I better understand their reasoning, I disagree with the phrase "sugar added". I agree with katlady, "natural sweetener" or something like that would be less confusing and more in-line with the message they are trying to convey.
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Post by gmcwife1 on May 2, 2018 1:54:12 GMT
Thanks for looking it up and posting that DarcyCollins. While I better understand their reasoning, I disagree with the phrase "sugar added". I agree with katlady, "natural sweetener" or something like that would be less confusing and more in-line with the message they are trying to convey. I agree
Empty calories is different then added sugar
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Post by RosieKat on May 2, 2018 2:45:48 GMT
Maybe they should label it as "Natural Sugar" instead of using the word "added". And Yes, they plan to do this with honey and cranberries. Most dried cranberries do have sugar added. (I don't know if those are the cranberries you mean.) Saying that on honey or pure maple syrup is just stupid. ETA - sorry, should have read all the comments first!
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on May 2, 2018 2:50:50 GMT
Does granulated cane sugar need this label? It should if honey and maple syrup do.
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Post by twinsmomfla99 on May 2, 2018 6:48:00 GMT
Of course I also hate how so many items are touted as sugar free when they still contain plenty of carbohydrates. But “sugar free “ doesn’t mean “carbohydrate free.” Sugar isn’t the only carbohydrate.
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Post by ddly on May 2, 2018 10:18:49 GMT
Vermonter here. This is ridiculous. You boil sap to get syrup. Nothing added.
Lisa G.
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Post by pierkiss on May 2, 2018 10:40:37 GMT
No it shouldn’t be labeled like this. Are they also going to label oranges this way as well?
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Post by birukitty on May 2, 2018 11:50:25 GMT
Maybe they should label it as "Natural Sugar" instead of using the word "added". And Yes, they plan to do this with honey and cranberries. Absolutely idiotic and where does it stop? What's next? Will they add it a sticker to the side of an apple that says "added sugar". The side of a banana? "added sugar". The proposals they are suggesting now are misleading and false. Pure Maple syrup doesn't have added sugar. It comes out of the tree as nature makes it. If they are also adding in honey and cranberries (whole) that's even worse. This makes me angry. It's tough enough trying to figure out what is the right things to eat for a healthy diet. This added confusion (which is completely false) doesn't help. Most people still trust the FDA. I don't.
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Post by malibou on May 2, 2018 13:21:28 GMT
I seldom buy maple syrup. However, if I were shopping for some, and saw the added sugar label,I would put it back and move on looking for a pure Vermont maple syrup. Without this thread, I may have never bought maple syrup again, as I would be skipping the ones with added sugar.
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Post by Darcy Collins on May 2, 2018 13:39:28 GMT
Maybe they should label it as "Natural Sugar" instead of using the word "added". And Yes, they plan to do this with honey and cranberries. Absolutely idiotic and where does it stop? What's next? Will they add it a sticker to the side of an apple that says "added sugar". The side of a banana? "added sugar". The proposals they are suggesting now are misleading and false. Pure Maple syrup doesn't have added sugar. It comes out of the tree as nature makes it. If they are also adding in honey and cranberries (whole) that's even worse. This makes me angry. It's tough enough trying to figure out what is the right things to eat for a healthy diet. This added confusion (which is completely false) doesn't help. Most people still trust the FDA. I don't. This isn't true. Your maple sugar is concentrated before bottled. It comes out of the tree at 2% sugar. Cranberries is a totally separate issue as there IS added sugar or other fruits to compensate for the very tart fruit of a cranberry. I linked the actual discussion from the FDA above - no there wouldn't be labels on whole fruits as there's been nothing done to concentrate the sweetness - it WOULD be added to products that included products with concentrated fruit juice as similar to maple syrup, you're taking a product high in natural sugars and concentrating it. I stated above that the label would add more confusion and it should be worded to correctly reflect that sugar isn't added. But don't disagree with the idea that we need to increase the clarity of products high in sugar.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 2, 2018 13:53:17 GMT
Clarity is good. Logic is better. I think maple syrup and honey should be left alone! Everyone, mostly, knows they are very sweet so are sugar of sorts. There are so many other things that they should address for our real safety!
Trying to remember if the apple juice says 'added sugar'.. I know I buy unsweetened. So I guess they do add sugar to apple juice?!
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Post by cbet on May 2, 2018 14:02:00 GMT
This isn't true. Your maple sugar is concentrated before bottled. It comes out of the tree at 2% sugar. Cranberries is a totally separate issue as there IS added sugar or other fruits to compensate for the very tart fruit of a cranberry. I linked the actual discussion from the FDA above - no there wouldn't be labels on whole fruits as there's been nothing done to concentrate the sweetness - it WOULD be added to products that included products with concentrated fruit juice as similar to maple syrup, you're taking a product high in natural sugars and concentrating it. I stated above that the label would add more confusion and it should be worded to correctly reflect that sugar isn't added. But don't disagree with the idea that we need to increase the clarity of products high in sugar. But they're also applying the ruling to honey, which is not refined or concentrated. My father raised bees; the honey is in the combs, they put the comb in a spinner and spin out the honey and it's ready to eat. If they add maple syrup or honey to another item as a sweetener, then that's an added sugar. Pure maple syrup and honey do not have added sugar. If the issue is that the FDA is trying to make consumers aware of empty calories, they need to find a different way to do it. I agree with a previous poster - if I'm shopping for maple syrup and I see "added sugar", I'm not buying that and I'm moving on to try and find the real, Pure Maple Syrup. If I see honey labeled "added sugar", I'm assuming it's the "honey spread" crap like they serve at KFC, and I'm moving on to find the pure honey.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 2, 2018 14:08:57 GMT
if I'm shopping for maple syrup and I see "added sugar", I'm not buying that and I'm moving on to try and find the real, Pure Maple Syrup. If I see honey labeled "added sugar", I'm assuming it's the "honey spread" crap like they serve at KFC, and I'm moving on to find the pure honey. The other problem is that some people read the fine print labels, some don't. If I saw 'added sugar' I would look into the label/listings farther... NOT convenient! Many have to read too many labels for dietary issues, this might make them not buy maple syrup or honey..
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Post by PrettyInPeank on May 2, 2018 14:09:19 GMT
Ugh, accidentally clicked yes. Won't let me change. No, added sugar on pure maple sugar is dumb, unless the value reads 0%. Which would be helpful in keeping labels consistent. For example, I wouldn't want a fat-free item to just leave the value off entirely. That's confusing, too.
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