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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 19:23:39 GMT
You're right there with me bitch, including lying about being abused. Sad. Well, Lauren. I'd say you are about as drunk as Brett Kavanaugh at a frat party. And you're as bitter and self-pitying as Al Sharpton. You don't need to be drunk in order to act like a sloberring, crying, whiny bitch. You wake up every morning thinking the world done you wrong because you're black. It's the excuse you use for all your issues.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 19:25:38 GMT
FUCK YOU, dknitter (to be sure you heard it) Pond scum has more class than you.
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Post by inkedup on Sept 26, 2018 19:26:51 GMT
Well, Lauren. I'd say you are about as drunk as Brett Kavanaugh at a frat party. And you're as bitter and self-pitying as Al Sharpton. You don't need to be drunk in order to act like a sloberring, crying, whiny bitch Still operating on the assumption that I'm black? Or just unable to spit the name of a prominent Latino activist at me? Weren't you going to ignore me like 75 insults ago? You can try to argue with me all you want, but history has proven that I will shut you the fuck down until you implode and slink back in with some bullshit coloring thread. It kills you that this spic is better than you at life on every fucking level.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 19:28:20 GMT
Yeah, I was, but it's too much fun to poke back at you.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 19:28:42 GMT
FUCK YOU, dknitter (to be sure you heard it) Pond scum has more class than you. Oh come on, is that really the best you can do?
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 26, 2018 19:29:53 GMT
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Post by artgirl1 on Sept 26, 2018 19:32:06 GMT
I don't believe you were assaulted. and that is why women don't tell....
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 19:32:22 GMT
Most does not equal all. And I do not believe INKY. The first time she's brought it up was in order to be bitchy with me. Nope, don't believe here. FWIW, I do believe the others, like NINK, even if they hate the fact that I don't believe all women who cry rape. But then, they weren't using it as a "gotcha" the way Inky did.
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Post by luckyexwife on Sept 26, 2018 19:33:09 GMT
This is an extremely sensitive and hurtful topic. Can we please just take a step back, take a deep breath, and stop derailing this thread? Resorting to name calling isn't helping anything, and it diminishes the serious nature of the issue. Rational discussion is helpful, but what this has spiraled into is not.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 19:33:46 GMT
Yes, I'll step back.
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Post by inkedup on Sept 26, 2018 19:34:28 GMT
"Oh no, I'm not Lauren--I have three daughters who I'm extremely close to." But then your rip apart at people, using personal things that they say to attack them. Fuck yeah, you're Lauren. And you're horrible. And she gleegully laughs at a woman who says she was assaulted. And by the way, I was assaulted as a child, too. But I guess I'm a lying liar who lies. Which begs the question: this bitch supports Trump, but all of a sudden truth and proof matter?
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Post by Really Red on Sept 26, 2018 19:34:59 GMT
And as far as your situation, did anyone tell the police? Was an investigation held? A trial? What physical evidence was there? What evidence at all was there? I'm not saying you were lying but why should somebody lose their job just on another's claim that something happened? I told. I spent 8 days in the hospital. My parents, my college, law enforcement, prosecutor, all discouraged me from pressing charges. I went to trial and I was shredded. It remains the most traumatic experience of my life. That was in the 70's, and I know, because I worked in that system, that it had not improved in the 80's. That is why many didn't/don't tell. But keep your blinders on. You think you know, but you don't. This eats me up. artgirl1 I am heartsick for you. I just saw this meme: A woman is trying to protect us from putting an attempted rapist on the Supreme Court, and she's going to be destroyed for it, and she knows it, and she's doing it anyway. That's patriotism
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Post by inkedup on Sept 26, 2018 19:36:55 GMT
Most does not equal all. And I do not believe INKY. The first time she's brought it up was in order to be bitchy with me. Nope, don't believe here. FWIW, I do believe the others, like NINK, even if they hate the fact that I don't believe all women who cry rape. But then, they weren't using it as a "gotcha" the way Inky did. Um, actually, you worthless, drunk piece of shit, I have mentioned my history many times. Well before assholes like you decided "crying rape" was the trendy thing for liberals to do. And here I am, explaining/defending some of the worst moments in my life to you. Fuck you. You are worth less than the semen the nurse swabbed out of me the night I was assaulted.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 26, 2018 19:37:10 GMT
Most does not equal all. And I do not believe INKY. The first time she's brought it up was in order to be bitchy with me. Nope, don't believe here. FWIW, I do believe the others, like NINK, even if they hate the fact that I don't believe all women who cry rape. But then, they weren't using it as a "gotcha" the way Inky did. Four out of five. That is a high percent which makes her statement very likely. I tend to believe women who tell me they have experienced it because it happens so very often. Even if I don't care for them.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 26, 2018 19:41:44 GMT
Honestly it would depend on the nature of the individual kid. We like to think that we all do a great job of raising our children to be honest, kind, helpful, thoughtful etc. but let’s face it. Those @sshole kids have to come from somewhere. If someone would have accused certain family members of mine who I know to be creepy misogynistic pigs I would absolutely believe it, whereas if they accused certain other family members, no way. So, in effect, you don't always believe the allegation just because a woman makes it? So why do so many insist Kavenaugh is guilty even when the people who know him best are saying "no way"? Maybe they just haven’t been asking the right people. Sorry, but when accusers are stacking up like cord wood against someone, I’m way more inclined to believe the women. Especially when they don’t seem to know each other, they have absolutely nothing to gain, but yet their stories are all so similar.
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Post by inkedup on Sept 26, 2018 19:46:24 GMT
Most does not equal all. And I do not believe INKY. The first time she's brought it up was in order to be bitchy with me. Nope, don't believe here. FWIW, I do believe the others, like NINK, even if they hate the fact that I don't believe all women who cry rape. But then, they weren't using it as a "gotcha" the way Inky did. Four out of five. That is a high percent which makes her statement very likely. I tend to believe women who tell me they have experienced it because it happens so very often. Even if I don't care for them. Thank you. This is not some fun, new bandwagon I or others are jumping on. Those who callously dismiss women's stories clearly have no understanding of how life altering it is to be assaulted. And how infuriating/sickening it is to have someone tell you you are lying about the awful things you lived through.
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Post by whiskerfish on Sept 26, 2018 19:59:44 GMT
I never told my mom about my assault, either. Like you, I didn't want to worry her. There are many reasons girls and women don't report immediately. It makes me sick that victims are forced to explain this to people who are quick to judge their actions. In a way, I'm glad for people who will never understand the shame and horror that exist in the aftermath of an assault. It's a terrible thing that I would not wish on anyone. It's galling to read "but what about the poor men" over and over and over. What about the women whose bodies and minds will never be the same again? What about us? I don't believe you were assaulted. I think you're just using the #metoo mentality. It's something you can add to your never-ending list of why your bitter and angry. You know, you're black, you've been oppressed, white priviledge, now it's abuse. This is probably true for you. You really think this way because *you* have no problem lying. Other people are not like you and deserve to be taken seriously. I believe her.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 20:00:56 GMT
We're each free to believe her or not as we choose. And you know nothing about me or whether or not I have a problem lying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:01:05 GMT
That's not an answer. Of course you'd want to get to the truth. But up until the "truth" was established, would you believe your son when he said he didn't do it or the woman who said he did? It's rhetorical because if you or anyone else here claims they'd believe the accuser, I'd say bullsh*t. And the reason no one here is responding to my question is because they know damn well they'd believe their son and not the accuser. Honestly it would depend on the nature of the individual kid. We like to think that we all do a great job of raising our children to be honest, kind, helpful, thoughtful etc. but let’s face it. Those @sshole kids have to come from somewhere. If someone would have accused certain family members of mine who I know to be creepy misogynistic pigs I would absolutely believe it, whereas if they accused certain other family members, no way. Agreed, and this is why a large group of women who know him well, friends with, worked for him, with him and dated him, have come forward together and vouched for his impeccable character and treatment of women. That is one of many things (despite the one sided narrative here declaring him automatically guilty as if it's fact) to consider in favor of believing him. Not saying anyone should believe him or not believe him, just something favorable to consider.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 20:05:26 GMT
Only the people who come out against him matter, Ricky. Didn't you get the memo?
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Post by inkedup on Sept 26, 2018 20:07:34 GMT
We're each free to believe her or not as we choose. And you know nothing about me or whether or not I have a problem lying. You support and defend Trump. And then there's the matter of you not being Lauren. I'd say your relationship with the truth is complicated, at best. But it's good you're so worried about truth and cold, hard proof. Maybe you'll apply those same standards to the president of the United states of America.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 26, 2018 20:12:11 GMT
Agreed, and this is why a large group of women who know him well, friends with, worked for him, with him and dated him, have come forward together and vouched for his impeccable character and treatment of women. That is one of many things (despite the one sided narrative here declaring him automatically guilty as if it's fact) to consider in favor of believing him. Not saying anyone should believe him or not believe him, just something favorable to consider. Many of them are now walking away. If fact a former group of supporters from Yale including a professor are demanding an FBI investigation or they will do an investigation!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:15:16 GMT
I'm sorry for what you went through. As for "you think you know, but you don't", believe me, I understand. I go through people thinking they know who I am here every day. because having some people be shitty on a message board you choose to go to is totally like having your character assassinated after reporting a sexual assault Why ignore where it originated to battle someone for saying it who didn't conceive of it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:20:09 GMT
Agreed, and this is why a large group of women who know him well, friends with, worked for him, with him and dated him, have come forward together and vouched for his impeccable character and treatment of women. That is one of many things (despite the one sided narrative here declaring him automatically guilty as if it's fact) to consider in favor of believing him. Not saying anyone should believe him or not believe him, just something favorable to consider. Many of them are now walking away. If fact a former group of supporters from Yale including a professor are demanding an FBI investigation or they will do an investigation! I hope like hell there is an investigation, we should know one way or the other. This whole leveling an accusation then refusing to participate in the hearing is bullshit, as is him discouraging an investigation.
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 20:24:23 GMT
And if it turns out any of these women are lying, I wonder how many of the women here calling for Kavanaugh's head will be screaming just as loud for that woman to be prosecuted?
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 26, 2018 20:24:58 GMT
Many of them are now walking away. If fact a former group of supporters from Yale including a professor are demanding an FBI investigation or they will do an investigation! I hope like hell there is an investigation, we should know one way or the other. This whole leveling an accusation then refusing to participate in the hearing is bullshit, as is him discouraging an investigation. Who is refusing to participate in the hearing?
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 20:28:50 GMT
Ford is. She keeps putting more and more demands out there before she'll testify or talk.
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Post by imsirius on Sept 26, 2018 20:34:10 GMT
Honestly it would depend on the nature of the individual kid. We like to think that we all do a great job of raising our children to be honest, kind, helpful, thoughtful etc. but let’s face it. Those @sshole kids have to come from somewhere. If someone would have accused certain family members of mine who I know to be creepy misogynistic pigs I would absolutely believe it, whereas if they accused certain other family members, no way. Agreed, and this is why a large group of women who know him well, friends with, worked for him, with him and dated him, have come forward together and vouched for his impeccable character and treatment of women. That is one of many things (despite the one sided narrative here declaring him automatically guilty as if it's fact) to consider in favor of believing him. Not saying anyone should believe him or not believe him, just something favorable to consider. That is true, but how many times have we heard about serial rapists or killers where people say " OMG, I never in a million years would have thought it was him/her" paul Bernardo raped and killed more than a dozen prostitutes in Toronto, then went on to abduct 2 teen girls AND raped and killed his wife's 14 year old SISTER. He was "well respected in his field, people loved him and NOBODY knew until he was caught." His wife participated freely and same thing. " They were the sweetest couple." I would never think she would be like that..etc etc...
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Post by #notLauren on Sept 26, 2018 20:39:49 GMT
In other words, no matter what, Kavenaugh is guilty. Right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 20:48:28 GMT
Agreed, and this is why a large group of women who know him well, friends with, worked for him, with him and dated him, have come forward together and vouched for his impeccable character and treatment of women. That is one of many things (despite the one sided narrative here declaring him automatically guilty as if it's fact) to consider in favor of believing him. Not saying anyone should believe him or not believe him, just something favorable to consider. That is true, but how many times have we heard about serial rapists or killers where people say " OMG, I never in a million years would have thought it was him/her" paul Bernardo raped and killed more than a dozen prostitutes in Toronto, then went on to abduct 2 teen girls AND raped and killed his wife's 14 year old SISTER. He was "well respected in his field, people loved him and NOBODY knew until he was caught." His wife participated freely and same thing. " They were the sweetest couple." I would never think she would be like that..etc etc... That's not evidence of any facts in this case.
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