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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 6:43:38 GMT
"The internet has given rise in the last few years to a phenomenon I’ve come to call “curated imperfection,” and Hollis is one of its reigning doyens. To her Instagram following of more than 825,000, Hollis regularly posts inspirational quotes from her own writing (“You were not made to be small”), selfies in which she is not looking at the camera but is holding her book up to the camera, and photos with her husband reminding you to subscribe to her podcast or check out their marriage conference (which she calls a “getaway weekend” and cost $1,795 per couple for two days in September, hotel not included, no refunds).... Even as the core of Hollis's business shifts away from being, as she puts it, “a lifestyle influencer,” this lifestyle is still largely what Hollis is selling. She wants to be relatable, and she is, to many thousands of women, in her blog posts and her speeches and her best-selling book. “I’m not an expert. I’m not a guru,” Hollis told the AP in September. “Anything I’ve ever done, the work I’ve done, has always been like your girlfriend telling you what worked for her.” Hollis is all of us — overloaded, exhausted, smiling through the long days of work, child care, meal prep, and relationship highs and lows. Only she doesn’t have to try at all. Or is she trying the hardest?... Can you tell a woman who has lost her hoped-for child as a result of state officials turning a blind eye to a water-poisoning crisis in a predominantly black area, or a mother seeking asylum whose child was taken away from her at the border, that “you are ultimately responsible for who you become and how happy you are”? You can, but you would be wrong. And cruel. Hollis doesn’t address the possibility that for some people, obstacles to happiness are outside their control. And it is proof of her hard-earned privilege that she doesn’t have to." www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lauraturner/rachel-hollis-girl-wash-your-face-self-help-bookShe made it on her own! (w/big bucks from her executive Disney husband and her white-bread "curated imperfection" persona). I can't wait for the day (I'll be gone probably) when people are too smart to fall for this faux, cutesy, imperfectly-perfect guru stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 7:09:59 GMT
Oh man this whole Social Media Influencer thing needs to go!!!
Authentic. Raw. Real. Girl if you need to state any of those or hashtag them in your blog/IG post, you are anything but authentic, raw, and real.
I am getting tired of these "perfect" woman promoting xyz to imperfect (and totally normal!!!) human beings. Its all fake. Bought. Made up.
One blogger/youtuber who just gets on my nerve is Fun Free of Cheap aka Jordan Page.
And then you have the bloggers/youtubers who make a fuss over those who are ahead of the game and are they really raw, authentic, real. Like hole fuck. Don't get all made because they did it first.
A lot of my friends have read that book. I took a look at it, laughed, and put it back.
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Post by caangel on Nov 11, 2018 7:38:02 GMT
Reminds me of BH and her "cultivate a good life" quotes that reek of privilege.
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Post by katelynr439 on Nov 11, 2018 12:59:02 GMT
I totally agree. I find her insufferable. I'm also sick of so many pushing this message that women just need to "hustle" or this pervasive feeling that anyone can and should make as an instagram/blog/internet personality.
Insta-wisdom and the platitude motivation with no depth behind it is so annoying.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Nov 11, 2018 13:08:02 GMT
So this begs the question...
How many of (generic) you have “Live. Love. Laugh.” still up in your house somewhere?
Or any of those other platitudes?
Insta influencers are successful because SOMEONE buys that crap.
Be careful when you point your finger, there aren’t a few pointing back at you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 13:12:08 GMT
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 11, 2018 13:29:05 GMT
So this begs the question... How many of (generic) you have “Live. Love. Laugh.” still up in your house somewhere? Or any of those other platitudes? Insta influencers are successful because SOMEONE buys that crap. Be careful when you point your finger, there aren’t a few pointing back at you. I don’t. I have one quote up on my wall on a canvas in my house. It says “All you need is love”. The only reason I have it is because I painted it at one of those wine and canvas parties hosted by one of our local artists at a local winery. 😉. I don’t get the appeal of a lot of the things surging on social media. Like that white mug with the black letters that everyone adores (the name escapes me). |
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Post by carly1030 on Nov 11, 2018 13:42:07 GMT
Damn you are bitter.
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Post by Miss Ang on Nov 11, 2018 13:56:21 GMT
Not every THING is for every ONE. It's a little strange how much she bothers you.  you are ultimately responsible for who you become and how happy you are I'm sorry, but I think that's quite true. Each of us have had our hard knocks in life, some far worse than others, but how you handle your struggles truly does impact your overall happiness. There are plenty of people in the world that have gone through hell and back and walk around with hatred and spite. But there are also people in the world that have gone through hell and back but still make the choice to look for the good in every situation and choose to focus on that little piece of good instead of the worst of it all. We all get to choose what we put in our head and what we spit out of our mouths. I think it's really best if you do you and I do me and we just allow that from each other without expectation or irritability.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 13:58:38 GMT
Not every THING is for every ONE. It's a little strange how much she bothers you. you are ultimately responsible for who you become and how happy you are I'm sorry, but I think that's quite true. Each of us have had our hard knocks in life, some far worse than others, but how you handle your struggles truly does impact your overall happiness. There are plenty of people in the world that have gone through hell and back and walk around with hatred and spite. But there are also people in the world that have gone through hell and back but still make the choice to look for the good in every situation and choose to focus on that little piece of good instead of the worst of it all. We all get to choose what we put in our head and what we spit out of our mouths. I think it's really best if you do you and I do me and we just allow that from each other without expectation or irritability. What was the context for that quote? It's not my style to say something like that w/o qualification because I don't believe that. The reason she bothers me is that she, like prosperity gospel preachers, make money on the gullibility and insecurities of others. Sure madison avenue does too - and I hate that as well. |
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Post by Miss Ang on Nov 11, 2018 14:00:50 GMT
Not every THING is for every ONE. It's a little strange how much she bothers you. I'm sorry, but I think that's quite true. Each of us have had our hard knocks in life, some far worse than others, but how you handle your struggles truly does impact your overall happiness. There are plenty of people in the world that have gone through hell and back and walk around with hatred and spite. But there are also people in the world that have gone through hell and back but still make the choice to look for the good in every situation and choose to focus on that little piece of good instead of the worst of it all. We all get to choose what we put in our head and what we spit out of our mouths. I think it's really best if you do you and I do me and we just allow that from each other without expectation or irritability. What was the context for that quote? It's not my style to say something like that w/o qualification because I don't believe that. The reason she bothers me is that she, like prosperity gospel preachers, make money on the gullibility and insecurities of others. Sure madison avenue does too - and I hate that as well. It's in the original post. The part that is bolded. Not that YOU said it, but it's from a piece you quoted in your OP. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 14:04:00 GMT
What was the context for that quote? It's not my style to say something like that w/o qualification because I don't believe that. The reason she bothers me is that she, like prosperity gospel preachers, make money on the gullibility and insecurities of others. Sure madison avenue does too - and I hate that as well. It's in the original post. The part that is bolded. Not that YOU said it, but it's from a piece you quoted in your OP. The way you quoted it makes it look like I was the one saying it and you were responding that I was being hypocritical in saying what she says. I DO NOT believe that everyone "makes their own happiness" and it pisses me off that Rachel and others of her ilk shill faux cutesy self-help to people who need real help - while making bank from those same people. |
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Post by Miss Ang on Nov 11, 2018 14:08:17 GMT
It's in the original post. The part that is bolded. Not that YOU said it, but it's from a piece you quoted in your OP. The way you quoted it makes it look like I was the one saying it and you were responding that I was being hypocritical in saying what she says. I DO NOT believe that everyone "makes their own happiness" and it pisses me off that Rachel and others of her ilk shill faux cutesy self-help to people who need real help - while making bank from those same people. I think it's pretty clear that you DO NOT believe that quote to be true.  I happen to think it is. |
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Post by naby64 on Nov 11, 2018 14:18:39 GMT
Look, there are people that rub someone the wrong way all over the place. There are people I roll my eyes at, change the channel, keep on scrolling by but that doesn't mean someone out there is gullible due to their liking them.
I will be honest, I didn't have a clue who she was but I did pick up her book. I read it. There are several spots highlighted. You don't know me and have no idea what is going on in my private life. There were just a couple of a-ha, light bulb moments in her book that hit me between the eyes. The above quote "you are responsible for your own happiness" was a biggie. I have stomped around and blamed another for me being so grumpy/making my life miserable/etc., that day that I read that it was needed. It could have come from anyone else and could have meant the same thing but that day came from her book. Oh, and I have never even gone to her IG account.
All this to say, some people and they are most likely not gullible just happen to be reading her stuff and needing it at the moment. I also have a plaque that hangs over my back door that says "do one thing everyday that makes you happy". I have had that for years. It is something I have to remind myself to do. So really, all this was around before her.
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Post by mustlovecats on Nov 11, 2018 14:24:13 GMT
So this begs the question... How many of (generic) you have “Live. Love. Laugh.” still up in your house somewhere? Or any of those other platitudes? Insta influencers are successful because SOMEONE buys that crap. Be careful when you point your finger, there aren’t a few pointing back at you. I don’t. And I don’t really follow social media influencers who do. It’s just not my thing, actually in general sayings aren’t my thing. I don’t really understand influencers for the most part, some come across quite genuine and seem to share things they actually love and others just shill the same Nordstrom anniversary sale items as every other shill on IG. |
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Nov 11, 2018 14:25:08 GMT
So this begs the question... How many of (generic) you have “Live. Love. Laugh.” still up in your house somewhere? Or any of those other platitudes? Insta influencers are successful because SOMEONE buys that crap. Be careful when you point your finger, there aren’t a few pointing back at you. I like motivational quotes. I have a few things up in my office and my house. They make me feel good. However I know that hard work is only one part of an equation. That bad luck hits us and hits us hard. I also know if we look for something we usually find it. The happiest people I know work hard at being happy. They find it in the small things and they focus on it. It doesn't mean bad things don't happen to them and that the world isn't shitty sometimes. They just find and celebrate the joys. Just because you have Live Love Laugh up in your house doesn't mean you buy into the crap that shysters like Rachel Hollis are selling. (no I don't have one up in my house.. but I might put one up now!  . ) |
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Post by mustlovecats on Nov 11, 2018 14:27:35 GMT
Not every THING is for every ONE. It's a little strange how much she bothers you. you are ultimately responsible for who you become and how happy you are I'm sorry, but I think that's quite true. Each of us have had our hard knocks in life, some far worse than others, but how you handle your struggles truly does impact your overall happiness. There are plenty of people in the world that have gone through hell and back and walk around with hatred and spite. But there are also people in the world that have gone through hell and back but still make the choice to look for the good in every situation and choose to focus on that little piece of good instead of the worst of it all. We all get to choose what we put in our head and what we spit out of our mouths. I think it's really best if you do you and I do me and we just allow that from each other without expectation or irritability. I think this viewpoint has its value, but at the same time can come across dismissive of people who have chemical imbalances in their brains that cause them to have serious depression or other mental illness issues. Mental illness is not a willpower issue as if choosing to look at the good in life actually can resolve that chemical situation. I agree that a positive outlook is important, I don’t agree that you can will yourself to be happy if your brain chemistry is literally fighting you at every step. For a time in my life my hell ruined me and I had to heal and none of that had to do with what I chose to put in my head or spit out of my mouth. |
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Post by naby64 on Nov 11, 2018 14:33:54 GMT
I agree with you, mustlovecats In the book though it wasn't about someone with true depression that can't MAKE themselves happy. It was more about the people who just aren't happy due to the kids screaming, the dogs barking, the house not being clean, oh, I don't know the husbands who refuse to quit drinking. He is not making you unhappy. Well, he is, but you have the ability to be better, do better, be happy. |
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Post by Miss Ang on Nov 11, 2018 14:46:26 GMT
Not every THING is for every ONE. It's a little strange how much she bothers you. I'm sorry, but I think that's quite true. Each of us have had our hard knocks in life, some far worse than others, but how you handle your struggles truly does impact your overall happiness. There are plenty of people in the world that have gone through hell and back and walk around with hatred and spite. But there are also people in the world that have gone through hell and back but still make the choice to look for the good in every situation and choose to focus on that little piece of good instead of the worst of it all. We all get to choose what we put in our head and what we spit out of our mouths. I think it's really best if you do you and I do me and we just allow that from each other without expectation or irritability. I think this viewpoint has its value, but at the same time can come across dismissive of people who have chemical imbalances in their brains that cause them to have serious depression or other mental illness issues. Mental illness is not a willpower issue as if choosing to look at the good in life actually can resolve that chemical situation. I agree that a positive outlook is important, I don’t agree that you can will yourself to be happy if your brain chemistry is literally fighting you at every step. For a time in my life my hell ruined me and I had to heal and none of that had to do with what I chose to put in my head or spit out of my mouth. I totally agree with you regarding mental illness. And with depression, there are different levels of that. Some people are down and depressed and do need to pick themselves up, pull up their boot straps, so to speak, and get on with a different attitude. And then you have people that genuinely have a chemical imbalance and can't just pop joyful thoughts into their heads. I get that. And as naby64 said, the position Rachel Hollis is coming from is not directed towards someone with a mental illness. It's for the everyday folks that always feel like a victim of circumstance and mope around feeling sorry for themselves but aren't doing anything to make their own life better. For example, we can sit around and complain and say, "My husband forgot my birthday." or we can say to him a week before, "Next week is my birthday and I wanna do something fun! Let's xxx." The point is, we can not wait around for someone else to bring us happiness. We have to put in the work to get what we want out of life. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 11, 2018 14:49:31 GMT
I've never been a fan of "influencers." I don't follow any blogs, don't watch any YouTubers, was never obsessed with scrapping celebrities. There is nary an inspirational quote in my house anywhere. I'm not even on Instagram.
(I have recently gotten into GYPO, but I'm there for the outfits and the online community - I'm not interested in hero-worshipping Allison or buying her line of jewelry. It's obvious to me that her life in the wealthy Dallas suburbs is very different from mine, and that's OK.)
BUT I don't really think it's all much different from TV/magazine/movie star obsession that's been going on for a hundred years. One of my favorite parts of the movie "Singing in the Rain" is where they're showing the silent movie with Lina Lamont, and one of the girls in the audience says, "She's so elegant. I think I'll die." Not knowing that Lina is actually a self-centered jerk with a terrible voice. When I used to show that movie to my 5th graders, I always pointed it out and asked them how many YouTube celebrities they were obsessed with (yes, 5th graders are all watching YouTube celebrities) and whether they actually knew what those people were like in real life. It was a good conversation starter.
I think 99% of people who enjoy following influencers these days realize that these people are not for real, and just enjoy the inspiration or the drama or whatever. I hope most people who are struggling realize that the influencers are selling a brand, not all of life's truths. I HOPE they realize that.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Nov 11, 2018 14:58:53 GMT
The only "inspirational quote" in my house is in my dining room and is a lithograph of a cartoon dog in bike shorts and helmet riding a bike looking over it's shoulder and the quote is, "Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round". That's as deep as I get in inspirational art.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2018 15:02:43 GMT
Someone who preaches to other women that they should value and love themselves then turns out to have married an abusive arsehole isn't someone I'm likely to take advice from.
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Post by kelly8875 on Nov 11, 2018 15:09:06 GMT
I've never been a fan of "influencers." I don't follow any blogs, don't watch any YouTubers, was never obsessed with scrapping celebrities. There is nary an inspirational quote in my house anywhere. I'm not even on Instagram. This is something I hear from others... and I don’t believe it. Merge, I’m not specifically talking about you here, just a lot of people men, women, kids, everywhere. Throughout time there have always been “influencers”. Musicians, movie stars, tv stars, reality stars, local newscasters, church members, teachers, neighbors. You like their outfit, so you went and bought the same/similar. You like the smell of the candle they burn In Their house because it’s soothing, so you went and bought the same. You like the calm paint color on that tv show, so you painted your bedroom the same color. You talked to your clergy for advice, you asked your teacher for advice. You went to your neighbors house for morning coffee and came away feeling better. Heck, maybe you have advice or words of wisdom. These are all examples of being influenced. Some little part of all of these examples probably made you feel better or newly enlightened. And at the time we likely all thought whoever gave us that advice/enlightenment is a genius who has it all together...but they’re likely a mess like the rest of us lol. It’s just that social media has opened up a new outlet for this. Doesn’t mean this hasn’t always been around. |
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Post by Merge on Nov 11, 2018 15:12:13 GMT
I've never been a fan of "influencers." I don't follow any blogs, don't watch any YouTubers, was never obsessed with scrapping celebrities. There is nary an inspirational quote in my house anywhere. I'm not even on Instagram. This is something I hear from others... and I don’t believe it. Merge , I’m not specifically talking about you here, just a lot of people men, women, kids, everywhere. Throughout time there have always been “influencers”. Musicians, movie stars, tv stars, reality stars, local newscasters, church members, teachers, neighbors. You like their outfit, so you went and bought the same/similar. You like the smell of the candle they burn In Their house because it’s soothing, so you went and bought the same. You like the calm paint color on that tv show, so you painted your bedroom the same color. You talked to your clergy for advice, you asked your teacher for advice. You went to your neighbors house for morning coffee and came away feeling better. Heck, maybe you have advice or words of wisdom. These are all examples of being influenced. Some little part of all of these examples probably made you feel better or newly enlightened. And at the time we likely all thought whoever gave us that advice/enlightenment is a genius who has it all together...but they’re likely a mess like the rest of us lol. It’s just that social media has opened up a new outlet for this. Doesn’t mean this hasn’t always been around. If you read the rest of my post, I made the same point.  It's really no different that what has come before. |
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Post by Miss Ang on Nov 11, 2018 15:23:21 GMT
I've never been a fan of "influencers." I don't follow any blogs, don't watch any YouTubers, was never obsessed with scrapping celebrities. There is nary an inspirational quote in my house anywhere. I'm not even on Instagram. (I have recently gotten into GYPO, but I'm there for the outfits and the online community - I'm not interested in hero-worshipping Allison or buying her line of jewelry. It's obvious to me that her life in the wealthy Dallas suburbs is very different from mine, and that's OK.) BUT I don't really think it's all much different from TV/magazine/movie star obsession that's been going on for a hundred years. One of my favorite parts of the movie "Singing in the Rain" is where they're showing the silent movie with Lina Lamont, and one of the girls in the audience says, "She's so elegant. I think I'll die." Not knowing that Lina is actually a self-centered jerk with a terrible voice. When I used to show that movie to my 5th graders, I always pointed it out and asked them how many YouTube celebrities they were obsessed with (yes, 5th graders are all watching YouTube celebrities) and whether they actually knew what those people were like in real life. It was a good conversation starter. I think 99% of people who enjoy following influencers these days realize that these people are not for real, and just enjoy the inspiration or the drama or whatever. I hope most people who are struggling realize that the influencers are selling a brand, not all of life's truths. I HOPE they realize that. I agree with you. I am not a cult-like follower of Rachel Hollis but I do find motivation and inspiration in things she says and how she says them. That doesn't mean I worship the ground she walks on, I just happen to connect to the words and the delivery. I am NOT one to idolize people. As a matter of fact, I do not like going to music concerts because of the way that people fawn over celebrities as if they are worthy of worship; it makes me very uncomfortable. So for the super-fans that follow Rachel Hollis (or anyone) around the world or around their community... that's weird. Those people have issues beyond looking to be inspired. But for the general population, I think we just like to be inspired to do better than we did the day before. Cheesy words do that for a lot of people. |
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Post by AN on Nov 11, 2018 16:43:31 GMT
(I have recently gotten into GYPO, but I'm there for the outfits and the online community - I'm not interested in hero-worshipping Allison or buying her line of jewelry. It's obvious to me that her life in the wealthy Dallas suburbs is very different from mine, and that's OK.) I did GYPO a few years back, before it got as big as it has and turned into its own platform. It's funny because, unless she has moved, she lived in the town right next to where I lived and I'm familiar with her neighborhood. I also went to a group dinner with her and other members once, there were maybe 10 of us there? Anyway, I wouldn't call the suburbs we lived in wealthy, although certainly solidly middle class. The way many of the photos are positioned really make it look like something it is. Like I'd see a vaguely blurry background that kind of made it look like a high end area and be like... That's the library parking lot, lol. I thought her service was incredibly valuable, but the "posing" that kind of comes with the territory of being a lifestyle figure online is really a turn off to me. Not just with her, in general. I like things to feel genuine, and a lot of the lifestyle bloggers/social media people just don't. The thing that I liked most about her story was how she got in a rut and wore yoga pants for months after being laid off, like... Sis, feel ya. Anyway, just found it kind of funny you mentioned the wealthy Dallas suburbs, because where she (and I) lived as of a few years ago was considered more of the hick area of the north suburbs. Still nice, don't get me wrong, but yeah... It wasn't Highland Park. I think it speaks to the level of "curating" that happens as people craft businesses selling their brand online. |
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 11, 2018 17:08:16 GMT
I have some YouTube subscriptions for scrappers that create pages I love. That is it. A friend gave me a sign that says CREATE in my scrap room and the rest of my inspiration comes from things I have created (like photos of family and places we have traveled).
When you hear how many photos it takes for an influencer to get the perfect shot, you just know that what they post is not real (or just real for a second). I've never felt the need to compare myself to others unless it was in something I myself wanted to get better at doing (like teaching). I can walk into someone else's house and completely appreciate their style but not worry that mine doesn't measure up. I think that keeps me happy. Knowing my lane and not worrying about what others do.
I don't have a problem with people who say to pick yourself up, because in many cases that is exactly what you need to do. Does it work for everyone, no. Some people were just dealt an awful hand in life and them doing what they need to do to survive is really none of my business. My internal motto is "You do you."
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 11, 2018 17:19:41 GMT
So this begs the question... How many of (generic) you have “Live. Love. Laugh.” still up in your house somewhere? Or any of those other platitudes? Insta influencers are successful because SOMEONE buys that crap. Be careful when you point your finger, there aren’t a few pointing back at you. Not me. I think they're cheesy.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 11, 2018 17:27:00 GMT
I don’t have any quotes up (though I have nothing against them if you like them)
I also don’t follow social media influencers or any bloggers (well except one)...
BUT I do have Allison from gypo on my Facebook feed somehow so I’ve seen some of her videos and ‘coffee chats’ and I admit they really bug me. I listen to them for a few minutes and she basically isn’t saying anything - and she will tell a little tidbit about her dog then start laughing but it wasn’t even funny lol.
Or she did one that was called like ‘no make up’ or something but her face is so Botoxed she can’t even move her forehead! Basically I like reading the posts by Mighty Girls or Humans of New York so much more - they actually say something
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Post by alsomsknit on Nov 11, 2018 17:43:20 GMT
The closest I’ve ever come to following someone was Ali Edwards. Her method of storytelling spoke to me. And, I still keep up with OLW. Some years have been more successful than others. It simply works with my desire for growth.
Mostly though, I don’t get why any one person’s opinion holds so much weight with so many. It’s an opinion. We all have them. So, I don’t find them worth much. I also find this type of adoration quite different than inquiring about the fragrance in someone’s home or the color of a room on some television show.
ETA: I do have the word “Hope” sitting on the window sill above the kitchen sink. As ridiculous as it sounds, it is a reminder to keep hope alive. Between life circumstances and the soul sucking power of Fibromyalgia, I fight hopelessness at times.
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I happen to think it is.
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It's really no different that what has come before.
