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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 3, 2018 23:59:41 GMT
How do you pronounce the word "important?"
I seem to hear so many people on TV say im-por-ANT.
Is that regional and I'm just unaware? Or is it sloppy pronunciation as I suspect?
It's almost as if people are emphasizing the word by the way they (mis)pronounce it.
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Post by gar on Dec 4, 2018 0:02:32 GMT
Sounds sloppy to me.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Dec 4, 2018 0:07:56 GMT
I just said it a few times and it came out as... "Im port ent" as opposed to "im port ant". I seem to say "ent" instead of "ant".
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 4, 2018 0:16:57 GMT
I just said it a few times and it came out as... "Im port ent" as opposed to "im port ant". I seem to say "ent" instead of "ant". But you have the "t" in there which is what's missing in the pronunciations that I'm hearing. I'll accept your version. Lol.
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Post by groovy on Dec 4, 2018 0:21:53 GMT
It’s sloppy and sadly seems to be becoming acceptable. I hear it often.
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Post by anniefb on Dec 4, 2018 0:23:23 GMT
Sounds sloppy to me.
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Post by MizIndependent on Dec 4, 2018 0:25:17 GMT
impour-unt If I hear a hard "t" in there I assume the person is British.
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Post by kernriver on Dec 4, 2018 0:27:39 GMT
I’ve heard really dumb people on the tv say ‘im-por-int’.
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Post by valincal on Dec 4, 2018 0:31:01 GMT
How do you pronounce the word "important?" I seem to hear so many people on TV say im-por-ANT. Is that regional and I'm just unaware? Or is it sloppy pronunciation as I suspect? It's almost as if people are emphasizing the word by the way they (mis)pronounce it. I’ve noticed a lot of young people speaking this way these days...it’s one of my pet peeves. They stop short on the previous syllable then skip the t sound. Mitten, button, important, etc. etc.
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Post by valincal on Dec 4, 2018 0:35:55 GMT
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Post by freecharlie on Dec 4, 2018 0:39:16 GMT
Im-port- Then I interchange ant or ent
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Post by J u l e e on Dec 4, 2018 0:43:40 GMT
I hear people saying it like a d sound - rushing the t. Im-por-dent, bud-on, mid-en.
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Post by Merge on Dec 4, 2018 0:46:57 GMT
Dropping the t is a regional thing in the south. You can criticize, but we're making fun of your "hoose" or "pahk" too, depending on where you live.
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Post by quinlove on Dec 4, 2018 0:49:57 GMT
Im-port- Then I interchange ant or ent Like this.
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Post by jumperhop on Dec 4, 2018 0:52:08 GMT
It’s important to me to not forget that “t”. Jen
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Post by danor98 on Dec 4, 2018 0:54:14 GMT
There is a local news station that runs a commercial talking about important news, important weather, important traffic. Every single time they say “important”, they say impor-dant. It might just be eliminating the “T”, but it surely sounds like a “d” to me. I pronounce all my consonants (that should be), in the proper manner! 😂
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 4, 2018 0:56:23 GMT
I’ve heard really dumb people on the tv say ‘im-por-int’. Now that I sound yours out, that's probably closer to what I'm hearing than the way I sounded it out.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Dec 4, 2018 1:17:51 GMT
From valincal's link -- "What you're talking about here is most likely something we call glottalisation. Where speakers recognise some quality of a voiceless stop (which is what a 't' is) being essentially the stop quality, and instead perform this with the glottis instead. This is what you're doing in the middle of uh-oh. Other varieties of English are much further along. British 'estuary' English spoken in the South-East, around the London region, has long since adopted glottal stops for unstressed stops in the middle of words. I lived there 20 years and it's a habit my other colleagues delight in pointing out that I still maintain." Which seems to indicate it's very British to *not* pronounce the T. Does that ring true to our British peas? gar?
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Post by kernriver on Dec 4, 2018 1:27:43 GMT
It’s kind of like ‘di-int instead of didn’t.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 1:50:12 GMT
Em-port-tent.
I grew up in the Binghamton- elmira ny area. Most people there have no accent and pronounce words correctly. I think it is a response not to sound like a New York City dweller.
But
As I get older I am starting to developer a Brooklyn accent. Weird.
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Post by PolarGreen12 on Dec 4, 2018 2:17:49 GMT
Im-por-tant.
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Post by katlady on Dec 4, 2018 2:26:34 GMT
I put the t with the -ant. Im-por-tant
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Post by Linda on Dec 4, 2018 2:36:36 GMT
im-por-tent but that 'e' isn't really an 'e' it's less distinct
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 4, 2018 2:42:54 GMT
Im-port-ent or im-por-tent, depending on how carefully I try to enunciate. No way do I ever put the emphasis on the ant. That's just wrong. ETA - But you have the "t" in there which is what's missing in the pronunciations that I'm hearing. I'll accept your version. Lol. Oops. Missed that you left out the t. No, I don't do that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 2:45:10 GMT
Im-por-tant.
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Post by leftturnonly on Dec 4, 2018 2:49:43 GMT
I hear people saying it like a d sound - rushing the t. Im-por-dent, bud-on, mid-en. My t's probably sound like d's a lot of the time, too. Most notably is water, pronounced wood-er. As in it's more wood than wood.
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Post by AussieMeg on Dec 4, 2018 3:03:01 GMT
impour-unt If I hear a hard "t" in there I assume the person is British. That's very interesting - for me it is the opposite. If I heard "im-por-unt" without the T I would assume the person was British! Most people I know IRL from London and surrounding areas (think Cockney) all drop their Ts.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Dec 4, 2018 3:18:12 GMT
Guilty as charged. I don’t pronounce the middle /t/ in IMPORTANT, MITTEN, WATER. I substitute a kindasorta consonant which is not a voiced /d/ but not quite a /t/. We need Jili to remind me what that is called. Ironically, lazyAmericansloppydiction speaker that I am, I have nothing but contempt for people I hear on TV who say “im-POR- dint” or im-por- din.” If, like me, they say “im-POR-int” with that weird kinda sound/stop in the middle, they pass muster. LOL. (But don't be thinking this Chicagoan says “Da Bears.” I have full command of my /th/s, thank you.)
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Post by bc2ca on Dec 4, 2018 3:28:54 GMT
Dropped consonants drive me crazy. winner instead of winter twenny for twenty cenner for center innernet
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Post by Jili on Dec 4, 2018 3:35:03 GMT
Guilty as charged. I don’t pronounce the middle /t/ in IMPORTANT, MITTEN, WATER. I either skip it or substitute a kindasorta consonant which is not a voiced /d/ but not quite a /t/. We need Jili to remind me what that is called. Ironically, lazyAmericansloppydiction speaker that I am, I have nothing but contempt for people I hear on TV who say “im-POR- dint.” If, like me, they say “im-POR-int,” with that weird kinda sound/stop in the middle, they pass muster. LOL. (But don't be thinking this Chicagoan says “Da Bears.” I have full command of my /th/s, thank you.) You rang? LOL. I believe you're talking about a glottal stop. I'm going to copy & paste an internet response to this because I think it's a good one-- very comprehensive, fairly understandable to the layperson, and much better than I can type up at this time of night when I'm not feeling all that great and I'm trying to do work for my job. I didn't write this, so I take no credit for it: There are several allophones of /t/ in American English. Allophones are different versions of the same sound that occur in different contexts. Aspirated /t/: This occurs at the beginning of a word or a stressed syllable within the word. The air pressure is built up and then released in a big burst. Some examples include “tie” and “Italian.” Unaspirated /t/: This occurs in a blend with /s/. In words like “star” and “stop,” the /t/ is unaspirated. This can make it sound like /d/ to some listeners. Glottal stop: In the middle of words like “button” and “mitten,” the /t/ is pronounced as a glottal stop in some regions of the US. On TV, I’ve heard people from the UK use a glottal stop in words like “tattoo” and “Saturday,” but in the US I only hear it before a syllabic /n/. Alveolar flap: In the middle of words like “matter” and “writer,” we use a flap which some people will hear as a /d/. For me, the words “ladder” and “latter” sound the same. A flap can also occur when the word “to” is unstressed in a phrase, as in “go to work.” Alveolar nasal flap: This is why “winter” and “winner” sound the same in some dialects.
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