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Post by casii on Feb 7, 2019 21:37:39 GMT
I'm not sure how the poll relates to the Cold podcast, but the poll is laughable!
And the latest episode of Cold? I hate how we know exactly where we're headed with the next episode. We know what happened, but this is a new dread response to a past event.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 7, 2019 21:56:52 GMT
Oh, boy. Thought I posted that In the trump thread.
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Post by finsup on Feb 7, 2019 23:14:31 GMT
My thoughts after the latest episode:
Why the hell did Chuck Cox leave a pot of hot water on the floor by a sofa instead of leaving it on the stovetop? And his reaction to Charlie messing with the Sheetrock mud bugged me too, with the laughing/sort of disgust about how Charlie cried because he thought he could get hurt and not because he'd done damage. Because he's a little kid, Chuck!
I was also turned off by the Ellis (the detective) quote about how he thought protective services had failed and "I don't have to live with it." But he's got to live with th fact that he couldn't make an arrest of Josh so...
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Post by MaryPea on Feb 8, 2019 1:11:31 GMT
My thoughts after the latest episode: Why the hell did Chuck Cox leave a pot of hot water on the floor by a sofa instead of leaving it on the stovetop? And his reaction to Charlie messing with the Sheetrock mud bugged me too, with the laughing/sort of disgust about how Charlie cried because he thought he could get hurt and not because he'd done damage. Because he's a little kid, Chuck! YES YES YES
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Post by MaryMary on Feb 8, 2019 1:17:52 GMT
I agree that Chuck Cox didn’t come across that great this episode. I was glad to hear that Josh’s non-crazy sister was planning/wanting to get the boys long term.
And yes, even though I knew how this ended all along, the preview for next week broke my heart.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 8, 2019 1:25:15 GMT
I think that in some of the comments, Chuck seemed to be saying that Charlie was showing some signs of being like Josh in his personality. I heard similar comments from others throughout the podcast as well.
The comment that Ellis made struck me as well. I was thinking that he shouldn't feel so good about the situation, given that he should have arrested Josh earlier.
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 8, 2019 2:43:37 GMT
THE HOT WATER. I mean, if we had the hot water heater disconnected for a short time frame, we would just go without hot water. Is hot water vital in some way that I don’t recognize? Because a pot of hot water, sitting on the living room floor, isn’t gonna stay hot all that long anyway. Who in the HELL thinks, “We absolutely are gonna need this. And we will need it while we are sitting on the couch, so what a great place to keep it!”
Also, I’m not exactly sure that Jennifer is the “non-crazy” one. I’m not totally sure anyone could be normal raised like that. Like, maybe *less* crazy is a better description.
Also, I think the detective has come across as an ass the whole time. He wanted to get in, get his 20 years, and retire with his pension, and he didn’t anticipate getting a high-profile case like this. (Not that he’s gonna skip the tell-all book, though!)
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Post by scrapcat on Feb 8, 2019 17:09:48 GMT
Glad I'm not alone in not being a fan of the grandfather's actions and statements. I understand they were prob under stress as well, but I feel like...these are your presumably murdered daughter's kids and they are most likely living with that murderer. If it were I I would be doing everything in my power to keep the safe and make sure accidents were not even possible. And I understand maybe they were older and concerned about their ability to parent, but just seems like not the right time to mess around with custody stuff while still waiting for things to be settled.
The whole thing was just so sad and frustrating to me, and I feel like those kids were failed in so many ways.
And learned something new, never heard of that type of lie detector test before. I didn't realize that is what seemed like the tipping point for Josh bcz I guess he knew he would fail the test.
But yea, this whole story just gets worse.
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Post by thundergal on Feb 8, 2019 17:52:16 GMT
I hadn't heard of that lie detector test either. Interesting for sure. I also agree with all of you wondering why in the HELL Chuck Cox left a pot of boiling hot water on the floor next to the sofa. And Ellis' comment at the end was pretty gross. I didn't pick up on the fact that maybe Chuck was describing Charlie in certain ways to draw a line between his personality and Josh's. I was just thinking it was odd that he didn't equate Charlie's behavior with the fact that his was just a child. I need to remember not to just hit play willy-nilly when the next episode comes out. I need to be mindful of my timing for listening.
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Post by FurryP on Feb 8, 2019 23:55:55 GMT
Oh man, I don't want the podcast to end just yet. I am hoping Dave Cawley still has more episodes up his sleeve. On the Reddit thread they made it sound like he had a whole lot more to tell, and still getting tips currently.
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Post by busy on Feb 13, 2019 16:18:17 GMT
Oh man, today’s episode is awful. That poor woman who was supervising the visit.
This is heartbreaking.
And the police response 🤬
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Post by genny on Feb 13, 2019 17:34:43 GMT
I listened to the Crime Junkies show on this last week and they played more of the initial 911 call. I was SO PISSED! I couldn't believe how dense the 911 operator was being…I wanted to reach through the speakers and time and just shake him!
I felt SO bad for the social worker… I mean, I just can't imagine. And those poor boys, it just breaks my heart. I can't believe that psycho did that. The hatchet? I have chills just thinking about it.
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Post by cabinlivin on Feb 13, 2019 20:09:19 GMT
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Post by casii on Feb 13, 2019 20:17:20 GMT
Yeah, I should not have listened to that in the car. I almost had to pull over. Then I sat in the parking lot for a while to pull myself together.
The 911 call made me crazy and the response time made me want to pound my steering wheel.
Josh was a monster.
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Post by red88 on Feb 13, 2019 20:18:19 GMT
Going to back up to the last episode with the boiling water. So I asked a question about this on a FB post (I follow FB Cold Podcast). I got back almost all of the same response as here except for a couple. One said the contractor needed it for laying tile. I've never laid tile so I can't say if boiling water is required. Another stated it was water drained from the old water heater, and again I asked why then was it placed on the floor, by the couch.
Today's episode was so heartbreaking. I wonder why the dispatcher was so irritating. Drove me crazy listening to both of them. I hope the social worker is doing okay these days. I can't imagine what she goes through on a daily basis.
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Post by Jockscrap on Feb 13, 2019 21:23:58 GMT
The call handler was disciplined linkI was so frustrated by his questioning. Making her go over the spelling of his name and asking for his date of birth as if that could be on any way relevant to what she had just told him was happening. He was so dismissive right from the start - he made his mind up within three seconds that he was dealing with a whining middle aged woman and treated her with such contempt. Urgh. So much about this case just adds to the central horror story and compounds it.
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Post by FurryP on Feb 14, 2019 5:18:00 GMT
Wow, even the episode title is hard to read: Ep 14: Killing Susan’s Sons Going to go listen now.
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Post by MsKnit on Feb 14, 2019 5:29:48 GMT
Can you imagine the nerve of the mother and sister wanting Josh buried beside the family he murdered?
Thinking that entire family was delusional and clueless.
The title of the episode was perfect. Heartbreaking, but perfect.
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Post by Katie on Feb 14, 2019 15:43:47 GMT
I just finished listening, and I feel numb. Sooooooo sad! He knew his secret was out and that he would be going to prison after that polygraph test. What a scumbag...and his whole family too (aside from Jennifer)! Yuck!
Is Steve still in prison, or did he get out?
Of course we know Susan is dead, but I wish they could find her, or at least find out how he killed her.
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Post by thundergal on Feb 14, 2019 15:54:12 GMT
Steve died of a heart attack...a few years ago I believe.
I listened last night. I was hoping for an interviewer with the supervision agent. This was all just awful from every damn angle. I was yelling at the 911 dispatcher as I listened.
How that family felt it would be right to bury Josh anywhere near those boys is beyond me. They are vile. Truly broken people.
I hope so much that someday, Susan's remains are found.
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 14, 2019 15:55:58 GMT
Since I knew about the case (I’m from there) I knew how it was going to end but man, the 911 call was just SO frustrating. And the response time. And just the whole thing. Why were they allowed at his house?? Well, I get it, on paper he was doing all the things to get them back and it was dad arrested, he was never charged with Susan’s murder...still so frustrating. The daycare lady broke my heart.
I hope they find Susan someday. Surely Steve or. I heal must know something?!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 14, 2019 16:05:13 GMT
Since I knew about the case (I’m from there) I knew how it was going to end but man, the 911 call was just SO frustrating. And the response time. And just the whole thing. Why were they allowed at his house?? Well, I get it, on paper he was doing all the things to get them back and it was dad arrested, he was never charged with Susan’s murder...still so frustrating. The daycare lady broke my heart. I hope they find Susan someday. Surely Steve or. I heal must know something?! Micheal and Steve are both dead.
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 14, 2019 16:06:22 GMT
Wow, really?
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 14, 2019 16:06:33 GMT
Since I knew about the case (I’m from there) I knew how it was going to end but man, the 911 call was just SO frustrating. And the response time. And just the whole thing. Why were they allowed at his house?? Well, I get it, on paper he was doing all the things to get them back and it was dad arrested, he was never charged with Susan’s murder...still so frustrating. The daycare lady broke my heart. I hope they find Susan someday. Surely Steve or. I heal must know something?! Steve and Michael are both dead. Steve died of a heart attack while in prison on the voyeurism charges. Michael committed suicide. ETA: Kristin types faster!
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Post by Gennifer on Feb 14, 2019 16:09:49 GMT
I can't bring myself to listen to this week's episode. I just can't get there emotionally yet. In fact, I told my brother (after listening last week) that he should wait... I thought maybe it would be easier to do them both back-to-back.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 14, 2019 16:10:54 GMT
Michael committed suicide.
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Post by scrapcat on Feb 14, 2019 16:20:56 GMT
My question is when a judge orders an evaluation or test like this, shouldn't the other circumstances be discussed like visitation? Like maybe visitation would be suspended until test was completed or something? It just seems like ordering something like that would bring about obvious stress and anxiety to a person. I duno. The whole criminal justice system not victim justice system strikes again I suppose.
I am interested to see if later episodes address Michael's suicide at all. Tho I read it happened, I don't know any circumstances or anything. I am more convinced after that story about the car he sold that he was directly involved somehow. I don't think Steve was actually involved. I think in his mind he really was in love with Susan and the sons probably played on that to manipulate him to do what they wanted. Like make her out to be this seductress who left for another man, etc.
It's telling how you hear these news stories and the information you glean, but then when listening to this whole story it's a totally different perspective with having more info.
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Post by Jili on Feb 14, 2019 17:43:35 GMT
I haven't listened to this episode yet. I'll get to it over the weekend.
I think that with Steve and Michael both dead, there's really no one else who knows anything that would help find Susan. There are two sibling possibilities-- John and Alina, but I just can't see Josh confiding in either of them. I used to think that perhaps Steve knew something. As gross as it is, I had also wondered if Josh had perhaps given Steve access to her after her death (I'm saying that delicately). The more I think about it, though, the less I think that. Steve was so obsessed with Susan that I can't even imagine that he would have been capable of keeping his mouth shut if he knew something. He'd be talking, writing songs, etc. and would have given something away.
Michael, on the other hand, knew everything.
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Post by Jili on Feb 14, 2019 17:48:03 GMT
THE HOT WATER. I mean, if we had the hot water heater disconnected for a short time frame, we would just go without hot water. Is hot water vital in some way that I don’t recognize? Because a pot of hot water, sitting on the living room floor, isn’t gonna stay hot all that long anyway. Who in the HELL thinks, “We absolutely are gonna need this. And we will need it while we are sitting on the couch, so what a great place to keep it!” Also, I’m not exactly sure that Jennifer is the “non-crazy” one. I’m not totally sure anyone could be normal raised like that. Like, maybe *less* crazy is a better description. Also, I think the detective has come across as an ass the whole time. He wanted to get in, get his 20 years, and retire with his pension, and he didn’t anticipate getting a high-profile case like this. (Not that he’s gonna skip the tell-all book, though!) I wasn't sure quite what to make of the whole hot water fiasco. I also with you about Jennifer. I thought it was interesting that the Cox's, who knew that they weren't the right people to care for the boys long term, felt that it would be in the boys' best interest to live Jennifer and her husband. I wonder what was up with Susan's sisters that either of them didn't seem to be a consideration? Personally, I wouldn't want those boys to have any contact whatsoever with any of the Powells, even the so-called normal one. Totally agree about Ellis, as well.
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Post by alsomsknit on Feb 14, 2019 20:38:54 GMT
I haven't listened to this episode yet. I'll get to it over the weekend. I think that with Steve and Michael both dead, there's really no one else who knows anything that would help find Susan. There are two sibling possibilities-- John and Alina, but I just can't see Josh confiding in either of them. I used to think that perhaps Steve knew something. As gross as it is, I had also wondered if Josh had perhaps given Steve access to her after her death (I'm saying that delicately). The more I think about it, though, the less I think that. Steve was so obsessed with Susan that I can't even imagine that he would have been capable of keeping his mouth shut if he knew something. He'd be talking, writing songs, etc. and would have given something away. Michael, on the other hand, knew everything. I didn’t put that together. They never found Susan because they were looking in the wrong place. Josh met Michael somewhere and handed off the body. Not being a suspect, he could be gone as long as it took. So, their area to look for her was probably way off. (I forget what was said about Michael’s where abouts at the time of Susan’s disappearance.)
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