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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 0:56:50 GMT
I Made a post in another thread, but there was so much dieting advice in there it makes the head swim. A thread just for those curious about whole food plant based no oil eating ( WFPBNO )makes sense I think. Please post questions, or experiences. I might be away from my phone some of the time, but maybe others will answer questions too. BUT: here’s a little info: NO, it’s not boring or dull. There are endless combinations of seasonings, and preparation for the foods I can eat AS MUCH AS I WANT of. I literally do not restrict myself from eating if I am hungry. And there are tons of recipes, videos, blogs, Facebook Groups, ect out there. You don’t have to worry about combining plant proteins at every meal. If you eat starch foods in their whole forms, you will automatically get enough protein. It’s built in, almost as if we were designed to eat these foods 😉. You will not automatically lose weight or improve your health just going vegan. There is a lot of junk food that is vegan. Why no oil? It’s a processed food stripped of good things and super high in calorie density. And you don’t need it. Whole foods also already have the fats we need to be healthy. We don’t need more. Do I never eat foods with oil? No, sometimes I’ll have fries if I’m at an event with limited foods for me. Or filch a couple chips from my DIL. Or have a little of the “vegan dessert” a well meaning host prepared for me. No you don’t have to eat beans at every meal. And if you have trouble digesting them and other foods at first, try Beano, and building your gut biome with probiotics. My niece tried to eat too much, and had very painful gas. The answer: potatoes. They are easy on the gut, satisfying, super versatile, and have everything you need. Look up MacDougall maximum weight loss program. It works! If you’re fully plant based, the only supplement you need is B12. Quite a few people who aren’t vegan also need this supplement. Resources: Forks Over Knives Mac Dougall , they have several Facebook groups, and a very helpful site. www.brandnewvegan.com He also has a Facebook group. And here’s a little inspiration. The after was taken months ago, I’m thinner now, but you get the idea. Not sure, try it, really try it, for 6 weeks. See what you think. But remember, make sure and eat until you’re satisfied.
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Post by Merge on Jan 1, 2019 1:00:51 GMT
Damn, girl, you look fantastic! I'm inspired. My question is: how do you make sure you're doing it correctly to lose weight? Did you count calories or portions, or just stick to the WFPB with generally no oil? I was very skeptical about the no oil thing until I started looking up oil free salad dressing recipes. That seems very do-able. It's difficult for me to process that potatoes are a good food to eat after so many years of limiting carbs when I want to lose weight (always unsuccessfully). But I find potatoes so much more satisfying than meat! LOL Oh, another question - wine? Did you give it up completely? Asking for a friend ...
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 1:11:11 GMT
If you are eating whole foods, the percentages will naturally be about 80% carbs, 10% fats, 10% protein
Anywhere close to that and you will lose weight. It’s that easy. The food is so low in calorie density, you get full before you eat too many calories.
For example, on Mac Dougall maximum weight loss program, your plate will be one half starch. Potatoes, rice, quinoa, your choice. The other half will be non starchy veggies. Steamed, roasted, as salad, however you want. Add two fruits a day and about a cup of legumes if you wish ( you don’t have to) and that’s it. Tons of food and you lose weight.
I’ve done it my way, and my weight loss has been slower. I still drink wine. I put soy milk in my decaf. I eat as much fruit as I want. I eat some avacado, nuts, pretty sparingly, but if I want an avacado sandwich, I have it. I also eat tons of pasta. I can’t imagine life without it. I make a great fake “Pho” with veggie broth , miso, mushrooms and zucchini, and rice noodles.
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Post by momx1 on Jan 1, 2019 1:19:57 GMT
I’ve been reading some about this since my breast cancer diagnosis. I’m having trouble finding recipe for some of the things I’m interested in trying. For example, do you eat amaranth and if so, can you please share your recipe? Thanks!!
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Post by gillyp on Jan 1, 2019 1:35:11 GMT
I gave up animal products and dairy about 4 months ago. It took what seems like forever for me to actually do it and since I have, I find it so much easier than I had anticipated. I have been a member of a number of Fb vegan groups for about a year, including those mentioned by you lesserknownpea and I think the talk of chia seeds, hemp seeds, tempeh and things like that got me thinking it was far more complicated than it really is. Basically the simplest way is to stop eating some types of food and start increasing others. Then bring other things into your diet. I’ve not given up oils yet and I’m not sure if I will although I have found it’s easy to eat unhealthily and I do need to step away from that. As well as my own food I cook for an omnivore and have not once wanted to eat what he’s eating. I find I do crave plant based foods! I lost 14lb in the first few weeks and my joint movements improved. I’m hoping to look as good as you this year lesserknownpea!
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Post by PenandInk on Jan 1, 2019 2:11:04 GMT
You are now officially my idol.
I started the WFPB diet @ 2 years ago. After a month or two, I felt so good I was able to go off the anti inflammatories I was taking for my osteoarthritis. Continued for a year and a half, and I felt terrific, but I didn’t lose a pound. Not one. I need to lose about 40.
So a couple of months ago, I reintroduced animal protein into my diet. Just felt maybe I could lose weight with a higher protein diet. After 2 months, I had lost a little but, but my joint pain had also returned, in a bad way. My joints were so inflamed and swollen, it was painful to move.
So I’m back to WFPB, but I’d really like to lose weight. My downfall is chocolate, I’m trying not to keep it in the house at all, I’m not one of those people who can have just one piece. Trying to choose fruit instead. If I stay away from the chocolate, I do lose weight. I’m also consistently exercising.
I may have to hang up your before and after photo. You are now my inspiration! Thank you so much for sharing!
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Post by quiltz on Jan 1, 2019 2:32:16 GMT
I will be the one to say no to this diet. I am Canadian and in Canada, there are very strict rules regarding the use of antibiotics and other drugs in the process of our meat & dairy. Farming practices are different than in the USA. I grew up on a farm and have my degree in Agriculture and have worked in Canadian Agriculture for most of my career. I am so grateful to live in the Niagara area were there is so much year-round seasonal fruit & veggies due to greenhouses. I eat fruit & veggies in season and there are many greenhouses that produce fresh lettuces, peppers and others all year round. I enjoy my beef, chicken & pork. I like the taste of real butter & milk. Simply too many processes to make "milk" from almonds - do you know how much water is used in this process and the other stuff that is added? Cheese that really isn't cheese? Think of the energy used to create these fake products. By following the Canada Food Guide, eating fresh fruits & veggies IN SEASON (Niagara has so much fresh food) and by using portion control, you can follow a healthy diet. I also can and freeze fruit/veggies to use in the winter.
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Post by Merge on Jan 1, 2019 2:36:32 GMT
I will be the one to say no to this diet. I am Canadian and in Canada, there are very strict rules regarding the use of antibiotics and other drugs in the process of our meat & dairy. Farming practices are different than in the USA. I grew up on a farm and have my degree in Agriculture and have worked in Canadian Agriculture for most of my career. I am so grateful to live in the Niagara area were there is so much year-round seasonal fruit & veggies due to greenhouses. I eat fruit & veggies in season and there are many greenhouses that produce fresh lettuces, peppers and others all year round. I enjoy my beef, chicken & pork. I like the taste of real butter & milk. Simply too many processes to make "milk" from almonds - do you know how much water is used in this process and the other stuff that is added? Cheese that really isn't cheese? Think of the energy used to create these fake products. By following the Canada Food Guide, eating fresh fruits & veggies IN SEASON (Niagara has so much fresh food) and by using portion control, you can follow a healthy diet. I also can and freeze fruit/veggies to use in the winter. That's OK! You do you, boo!
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jan 1, 2019 2:39:59 GMT
My husband has been Vegan for 2 years now on the advice of his doctor because of his diabetes. It has really helped not just his sugar numbers to go down but the blood pressure, bad cholesterol and his weight. I didn't go Vegan but have taken a lot of meat out of my meals. All my numbers have gone down also. When friends first started noticing my weight lose, they asked how. I said I took red meat totally out and sometimes have chicken or fish. A lot of times I got the reaction, I CAN'T not eat red meat. Honestly I don't miss it.
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Post by MaryMary on Jan 1, 2019 2:41:54 GMT
You look amazing!
I went vegan in July and have lost somewhere around 15 pounds. I haven’t cut out oil... yet. I am considering doing that in January because I have another 15 pounds I’d like to get rid of. I thought I would really miss cheese, and I won’t lie... there are a few moments where I have. But I haven’t missed it nearly as much as I thought I would. For the most part, I feel very satisfied and happy eating vegan.
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Post by trollie on Jan 1, 2019 2:42:15 GMT
You look fantastic! Good job going vegan. I am vegetarian, but have a hard time giving up eggs and cheese.
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Post by trollie on Jan 1, 2019 2:44:32 GMT
You look amazing! I went vegan in July and have lost somewhere around 15 pounds. I haven’t cut out oil... yet. I am considering doing that in January because I have another 15 pounds I’d like to get rid of. I thought I would really miss cheese, and I won’t lie... there are a few moments where I have. But I haven’t missed it nearly as much as I thought I would. For the most part, I feel very satisfied and happy eating vegan. My DD was vegan for awhile so I was making A LOT of vegan dishes, including substituting a cashew mash for cheese. It was freakin' awesome. She is no longer vegan, and I am no longer making those subs. Maybe in the new year I will try again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 5:04:28 GMT
I’ve been reading some about this since my breast cancer diagnosis. I’m having trouble finding recipe for some of the things I’m interested in trying. For example, do you eat amaranth and if so, can you please share your recipe? Thanks!! Be extremely careful of soy products.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 5:50:15 GMT
I’ve been reading some about this since my breast cancer diagnosis. I’m having trouble finding recipe for some of the things I’m interested in trying. For example, do you eat amaranth and if so, can you please share your recipe? Thanks!! Be extremely careful of soy products. Every valid study says soy not a problem
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 5:54:13 GMT
I’ve been reading some about this since my breast cancer diagnosis. I’m having trouble finding recipe for some of the things I’m interested in trying. For example, do you eat amaranth and if so, can you please share your recipe? Thanks!! I’m sorry I have no experience with amaranth. But I wish you the best of health!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 5:55:31 GMT
Be extremely careful of soy products. Every valid study says soy not a problem Well I have 3 friends, who were told to watch their consumption of soy.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 5:59:48 GMT
Every valid study says soy not a problem Well I have 3 friends, who were told to watch their consumption of soy. I don’t want to fight. I assume every breast cancer patient will carefully research their options. 😀
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Post by StephDRebel on Jan 1, 2019 6:19:18 GMT
If you are eating whole foods, the percentages will naturally be about 80% carbs, 10% fats, 10% protein Anywhere close to that and you will lose weight. It’s that easy. The food is so low in calorie density, you get full before you eat too many calories. For example, on Mac Dougall maximum weight loss program, your plate will be one half starch. Potatoes, rice, quinoa, your choice. The other half will be non starchy veggies. Steamed, roasted, as salad, however you want. Add two fruits a day and about a cup of legumes if you wish ( you don’t have to) and that’s it. Tons of food and you lose weight. I’ve done it my way, and my weight loss has been slower. I still drink wine. I put soy milk in my decaf. I eat as much fruit as I want. I eat some avacado, nuts, pretty sparingly, but if I want an avacado sandwich, I have it. I also eat tons of pasta. I can’t imagine life without it. I make a great fake “Pho” with veggie broth , miso, mushrooms and zucchini, and rice noodles. A faux pho you say?
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 6:20:00 GMT
If you are eating whole foods, the percentages will naturally be about 80% carbs, 10% fats, 10% protein Anywhere close to that and you will lose weight. It’s that easy. The food is so low in calorie density, you get full before you eat too many calories. For example, on Mac Dougall maximum weight loss program, your plate will be one half starch. Potatoes, rice, quinoa, your choice. The other half will be non starchy veggies. Steamed, roasted, as salad, however you want. Add two fruits a day and about a cup of legumes if you wish ( you don’t have to) and that’s it. Tons of food and you lose weight. I’ve done it my way, and my weight loss has been slower. I still drink wine. I put soy milk in my decaf. I eat as much fruit as I want. I eat some avacado, nuts, pretty sparingly, but if I want an avacado sandwich, I have it. I also eat tons of pasta. I can’t imagine life without it. I make a great fake “Pho” with veggie broth , miso, mushrooms and zucchini, and rice noodles. A faux pho you say? Yes, exactly. That’s what we call it😀
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Post by J u l e e on Jan 1, 2019 6:43:46 GMT
Keeping a spot to remind me to post my favorite recipe with amaranth tomorrow.
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Post by SharonScraps on Jan 1, 2019 6:48:44 GMT
Funny you post this. I do not like meat and have reactions to dairy and eggs. I feel like following a Vegan diet might be healthier for me than how i currently eat. I have been researching for a few months. Bought books, internet web sites, youtube... one thing that keeps sticking out, “do it right”. My problem, I just need/want the basics to start. Hard to explain, but i think i am being bombarded with too much information, facts, recipes... i am just looking for the bare basics to start: what food groups and how much? Right now, I believe I am looking at 5 veggies a day, 4 fruits, 3 legumes, 3 grains and 1 nuts/seeds. Plus Vit B12 & D. That just looks like a lot of food! And a LOT of fruit and beans! Has anyone found a good starting point? Thanks! Sharon P.S. Congratulations!
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Post by peace on Jan 1, 2019 7:10:46 GMT
I will be the one to say no to this diet. I am Canadian and in Canada, there are very strict rules regarding the use of antibiotics and other drugs in the process of our meat & dairy. Farming practices are different than in the USA. I grew up on a farm and have my degree in Agriculture and have worked in Canadian Agriculture for most of my career. I am so grateful to live in the Niagara area were there is so much year-round seasonal fruit & veggies due to greenhouses. I eat fruit & veggies in season and there are many greenhouses that produce fresh lettuces, peppers and others all year round. I enjoy my beef, chicken & pork. I like the taste of real butter & milk. Simply too many processes to make "milk" from almonds - do you know how much water is used in this process and the other stuff that is added? Cheese that really isn't cheese? Think of the energy used to create these fake products. By following the Canada Food Guide, eating fresh fruits & veggies IN SEASON (Niagara has so much fresh food) and by using portion control, you can follow a healthy diet. I also can and freeze fruit/veggies to use in the winter. You can skip almonds and not use that point at all. There is oat milk, hemp milk and others. Actually- one does not need milk past the stage of being weaned. The animal industry is cruel. I don't care where you live. An animal really doesn't want it's throat slit. If there are other alternatives, we- as the intelligent species- should entertain those. Animals are given so many antibiotics in the US- I cannot speak for Canada. Animals do not get their B12 from the earth as they did- they are given supplements. The majority of the pharmaceuticals in this country are used in the agriculture business. Our food industry is so completely fucked up and the information we are given as consumers is not accurate because it is controlled by these industries. So we just keep doing it. AND you don't just get to say "no" to this diet. Have you researched it? Have you read The China Study? Do you know that some cancers can be turned on and off by eliminating/adding animal products??? This isn't propaganda. It's actually facts. Have you watched Forks Over Knives? Plant Pure Nation? The truth is slowly coming out but people are so attached to their food/customs that they do not want to hear it. There is so much wasted resources used for producing animal products. The research is there. Gather it- learn. It's okay if you don't want to believe it- just scroll on by- but don't spread bullshit. Please.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Jan 1, 2019 7:47:52 GMT
Funny you post this. I do not like meat and have reactions to dairy and eggs. I feel like following a Vegan diet might be healthier for me than how i currently eat. I have been researching for a few months. Bought books, internet web sites, youtube... one thing that keeps sticking out, “do it right”. My problem, I just need/want the basics to start. Hard to explain, but i think i am being bombarded with too much information, facts, recipes... i am just looking for the bare basics to start: what food groups and how much? Right now, I believe I am looking at 5 veggies a day, 4 fruits, 3 legumes, 3 grains and 1 nuts/seeds. Plus Vit B12 & D. That just looks like a lot of food! And a LOT of fruit and beans! Has anyone found a good starting point? Thanks! Sharon P.S. Congratulations! Wfpbno awe (awesome way eating) or woe (way of eating) doesnt really look at food groups or portion size per se. you eat till satisfied. Different docs have different focus. Esselstyn says half plate greens, Macdougal says half plate starches. When I started, i follwed Rip Esselstyn’s (son od Dr Esselstyn) Engine 2 seven day challenge. The book is excellent. First 2/3 of the book is an easy read on why and how and the rest is recipes and food planning. Its very strict and i needed the structure to get going. Then I read How not to Die and switched it around a bit. Macdougal works better for me because i like the carbs.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 8:08:46 GMT
Funny you post this. I do not like meat and have reactions to dairy and eggs. I feel like following a Vegan diet might be healthier for me than how i currently eat. I have been researching for a few months. Bought books, internet web sites, youtube... one thing that keeps sticking out, “do it right”. My problem, I just need/want the basics to start. Hard to explain, but i think i am being bombarded with too much information, facts, recipes... i am just looking for the bare basics to start: what food groups and how much? Right now, I believe I am looking at 5 veggies a day, 4 fruits, 3 legumes, 3 grains and 1 nuts/seeds. Plus Vit B12 & D. That just looks like a lot of food! And a LOT of fruit and beans! Has anyone found a good starting point? Thanks! Sharon P.S. Congratulations! Look at MacDougall Starch Solution. It’s simple. Mostly starches: whole grains, potatoes and other starchy vegetables are the main thing. Legumes and fruits play a much smaller part. You don’t have to have legumes every day if you don’t want. Non starchy veggies and leafy greens are important, but you’d be surprised to see how easy it is to get plenty. This was the beginning of my dinner. Simply roasted vegetables, no oil. Delicious! The salad was arugula, with little oranges, a few sunflower seeds, and red onion. Then I had potatoes ( I just zapped them in the microwave then smashed them up and ate them with salt and pepper). See how quickly the fruits and veggies add up? My dessert was a double serving of pineapple. Those guidelines can be helpful, but I wouldn’t get hung up on them. Just eat whole foods until you’re satisfied, you should be fine.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jan 1, 2019 8:13:37 GMT
Please use this thread to encourage those who are interested in eating Vegan or plant based. Everyone gets to make their food choices. It is a personal decision people feel strongly about.
I may agree with s lot of the strongly held beliefs, but I would love it if we kept the arguing off this thread, and stuck to sharing our experiences and answering questions.
Thank you!!
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Post by Lindarina on Jan 1, 2019 12:15:19 GMT
After many years as a vegetarian I went plant based 18 months ago. And I managed to lure my meat and potato husband to join me 😁 He comes from a family with heart problems, I come from a family with a history of Alzheimer’s. So we were both interested in doing what we could to avoid the same health issues as many of our family members. To me, the science seems pretty clear when it comes to the heathiest way for humans to eat. My husbands high blood preassure dropped to a healthy range right after going plant based, and has stayed healthy ever since. This video: 101 reasons to go vegan was the one that convinced my science loving husband. My no. 1 tip for anyone who’s switching to a plant based diet is not to make things too complicated in the beginning. Forget the hemp seeds, the nutritional yeast, the dulce flakes and miso paste😉 1. Make a list of the things you eat that are already vegan. Like marinara sauce, oatmeal, minestrone etc. Chances are, you already have some vegan recipes in your reportoire. 2. Build a simple collection of quick and easy meals to pull from the hat on busy work nights. I love experimenting in the kitchen, but when you’re busy and hungry a few quick meals is the key to sucess. - Whole wheat pasta with lentils and pasta sauce. - Beans and rice. - Bean burgers in the freezer. - Bean chili. 3. Be sure to have a powerful blender. You are going to end up blending mountains of cashews at some point 😂 And have fun with your journey! I’m so excited for anyone who wants to try a plant based diet. I loved going plant based so much I almost wish I could do it for the first time all over again! 😁
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Post by guzismom on Jan 1, 2019 14:23:24 GMT
You look amazing! I went vegan in July and have lost somewhere around 15 pounds. I haven’t cut out oil... yet. I am considering doing that in January because I have another 15 pounds I’d like to get rid of. I thought I would really miss cheese, and I won’t lie... there are a few moments where I have. But I haven’t missed it nearly as much as I thought I would. For the most part, I feel very satisfied and happy eating vegan. My DD was vegan for awhile so I was making A LOT of vegan dishes, including substituting a cashew mash for cheese. It was freakin' awesome. She is no longer vegan, and I am no longer making those subs. Maybe in the new year I will try again. I make a vegan mac and cheese that is absolutely delicious! veganyumminess.com/creamy-vegan-mac-and-cheese/
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Post by trollie on Jan 1, 2019 15:12:38 GMT
My DD was vegan for awhile so I was making A LOT of vegan dishes, including substituting a cashew mash for cheese. It was freakin' awesome. She is no longer vegan, and I am no longer making those subs. Maybe in the new year I will try again. I make a vegan mac and cheese that is absolutely delicious! veganyumminess.com/creamy-vegan-mac-and-cheese/I have made this! I add a bay leaf (remove before blending) in the mix and some red bell pepper. Very satisfying and tasty for cheese lovers.
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Post by kibble on Jan 1, 2019 15:57:55 GMT
You look great op!
I don't see myself ever being vegan (mainly because I eat a lot of eggs - I have eye issues so try to incorporate items with high lutein and zeaxanthin, but I am trying to cut down on how much meat we eat. I rarely eat pork and red meat now, so I think I will try to cut those out completely this year. My family is an issue though. They all love pork/beef products though they are eating less than they used to because I do most of the cooking.
I did watch Forks over Knives recently and found that interesting. I had asked for and got a bunch of vegan/vegetarian cookbooks for Christmas so looking forward to trying some of the recipes.
Can you tell me what are the base products for a lot of recipes? (hopefully that makes sense) If I'm going to stock my pantry what would you recommend I always keep on hand?
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