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Post by annabella on Jan 28, 2019 21:31:41 GMT
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Post by Really Red on Jan 28, 2019 21:35:12 GMT
My first thought is it is their business. As is my second thought. I seriously would NEVER judge anyone in a situation like this. It is absolutely horrific and thoroughly mind-numbing to care for someone who has such a serious illness.
I have not read the story, but if he's taking care of her, then he gets to make these decisions himself. If he is not taking care of her, i.e. she is in a home, then that is also fine as well. This just has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone other than them.
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Post by ladytrisha on Jan 28, 2019 21:45:56 GMT
When we put my MIL in a memory care facility, the stories we heard were heartbreaking and real. Youngest there was 36, oldest in their 90's.
We deal with our own family members who say they understand that MIL won't know them, but want her to see them because she'll remember "them". No she won't, but we've learned to step back and let them have at it. They're surprised and saddened and then get it - sort of.
My friend just found out her husband has it - she has uprooted their retirement in Arizona to come back to our area because support is nearby (and because the adult living community they were in pulled away because they were no longer a normal couple). As a caretaker, she needs support; as a wife, she's missing her husband. She can't work or leave him for more than an hour, but hopefully now they're local, she'll be able to see friends and breathe.
B. Smith will have no memory of her husband (and new memories are erased almost immediately). The article says she is angry so her husband found something that works where he has a life while still caring for her in her home and the care isn't rotated with multiple caregivers. Kudos to the "other woman" who is in the home with them.
Who's to say what's "right" in these situations? Definitely not anyone who hasn't walked in those shoes.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 28, 2019 21:48:29 GMT
My first thought is it is their business. As is my second thought. I seriously would NEVER judge anyone in a situation like this. It is absolutely horrific and thoroughly mind-numbing to care for someone who has such a serious illness. I have not read the story, but if he's taking care of her, then he gets to make these decisions himself. If he is not taking care of her, i.e. she is in a home, then that is also fine as well. This just has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone other than them. Guess this is what I was thinking myself trying to put it into words. It's not for me to judge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 21:51:56 GMT
If they are taking care of her, then this is nobody’s Business.
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Post by AllieC on Jan 28, 2019 21:52:25 GMT
It is a very complex issue. Having seen loved ones with Alzheimer's there is no way I will judge anyone for decision they make in the care of the person with the illness.
There seems to be a lot of love in that house from her husband, his girlfriend and daughter. As long as B is being taken care of I don't think it is anyone's business.
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Post by deekaye on Jan 28, 2019 22:01:25 GMT
Watching my mom take care of my dad, and then ultimately needing to put him in a care center when it physically and mentally became too hard.... I absolutely don't judge Dan and Alex. It is a lonely, sad existence for the "remaining" spouse so if he wants to have companionship, more power to him.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 28, 2019 22:01:54 GMT
what a difficult situation for everyone. but it appears that B. is still well cared for and to me, that's all that matters. in light of the recent threads about caregiving an ill parent or spouse, no one can argue that this must be difficult for B's spouse. she no longer knows him to be her husband. she requires constant care and supervision. he has not abandoned her. his respite from this situation seems to be his girlfriend (who appears to be kind to B as well). it may not be moral in many people's eyes but it seems to work for them.
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Post by marimoose on Jan 28, 2019 22:04:46 GMT
My first thought is it is their business. As is my second thought. I seriously would NEVER judge anyone in a situation like this. It is absolutely horrific and thoroughly mind-numbing to care for someone who has such a serious illness. I have not read the story, but if he's taking care of her, then he gets to make these decisions himself. If he is not taking care of her, i.e. she is in a home, then that is also fine as well. This just has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone other than them. Guess this is what I was thinking myself trying to put it into words. It's not for me to judge. This is exactly what I am thinking too. Is it perfect? No. But what is perfect or normal in this situation. Until I have walked in the same steps I have no allowance to judge and even then, not. Good for him for finding some kind of balance that works for now. And bless the woman who is with him for being agreeable to the situation. I am sure he isn't the first and it seems there was an actor a few years ago in a similiar situation.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 28, 2019 22:27:07 GMT
I’m not going to judge. My mom had Alzheimer’s and it was horrible. She called every one of my brothers, my DH and my sister’s DH all by the same name so she didn’t have a clue at the end. It’s just sad all the way around.
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Post by AnotherPea on Jan 28, 2019 22:34:17 GMT
My aunt was such a girlfriend once upon a time. She was hired to be the wife's caretaker long after the woman had lost any semblance of who she used to be. After several months the husband and my aunt started a relationship. We visited the home before the romance began and it was quite clear that both the husband and my aunt truly loved the wife. And that the wife had no clue who either of them were. About a year into the relationship my aunt found a different job but the relationship continued. When the wive died the husband felt guilty and broke off the relationship.
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Post by carhoch on Jan 28, 2019 22:44:09 GMT
As long as they are taking care of her I am absolutely fine with it.
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Post by roundtwo on Jan 28, 2019 23:00:01 GMT
I don't judge this situation either. Dementia and alzheimers is a nasty horrible disease that sucks the life from all around them. I think that those who are caring for their loved ones deserve any kind of kindness and respite they can find.
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 28, 2019 23:25:05 GMT
Love is all sorts of things. If everyone is being taken care of and no one is being hurt, then more power to them. He easily could have put her in a care facility and dated/lived with Alex. This way all three of them have some positives.
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Post by hop2 on Jan 28, 2019 23:53:33 GMT
If there is no issue with her care- not my business
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Post by myshelly on Jan 28, 2019 23:56:27 GMT
It’s very difficult and very lonely to be a caregiver in a situation like this.
If the husband has found a way to continue living his life while also fulfilling the caregiver role, then I wish him happiness.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jan 28, 2019 23:59:31 GMT
For myself personally I would prefer my spouse stayed faithful to me until my death. In the moment of course I would not know, but today in full possession of my faculties I would prefer he fulfilled that vow (in sickness or in health til death us do part) and then considered himself free to do as he pleased after the fact.
It’s not up to me to tell someone else what they should do in this circumstance, but that is what I would prefer for me and also what i hope I would do.
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Post by mrssmith on Jan 29, 2019 1:48:11 GMT
It sounds like a loving home. And I think it's better for him to have some joy instead of only being a caregiver. I had a boyfriend once whose Dad was living with a woman and her ex-husband. The Ex was probably 15-20 years older than the wife and infirm (not sure what). So they took care of him. I can't remember if he had other family.
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Post by laureljean on Jan 29, 2019 2:07:08 GMT
For myself personally I would prefer my spouse stayed faithful to me until my death. But really, what does "faithful" mean? Is it just sexual/romantic, or does it mean caring for the beloved's needs and preserving their dignity as a human being? If I were in a demented state and permanently not able to be his partner, it would be totally ok with me if he had a girlfriend, as long as I was cared for and not mistreated. But I think every couple should make their own choice. I find nothing wrong with how this family is coping with a heartbreaking situation.
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Post by mustlovecats on Jan 29, 2019 2:21:57 GMT
For myself personally I would prefer my spouse stayed faithful to me until my death. But really, what does "faithful" mean? Is it just sexual/romantic, or does it mean caring for the beloved's needs and preserving their dignity as a human being? If I were in a demented state and permanently not able to be his partner, it would be totally ok with me if he had a girlfriend, as long as I was cared for and not mistreated. But I think every couple should make their own choice. I find nothing wrong with how this family is coping with a heartbreaking situation. By my definition faithful means forsaking any other romantic or sexual relationships for the duration of the marriage. If that means one or the other of us has no sexual or romantic partner for that time, so be it, that is what the vow was. it did not include until one of us is incapacitated, it said until we are parted by death. I think I was pretty clear that my preference is for me and not judgment of this family.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 29, 2019 2:25:49 GMT
For myself personally I would prefer my spouse stayed faithful to me until my death. But really, what does "faithful" mean? Is it just sexual/romantic, or does it mean caring for the beloved's needs and preserving their dignity as a human being? If I were in a demented state and permanently not able to be his partner, it would be totally ok with me if he had a girlfriend, as long as I was cared for and not mistreated. But I think every couple should make their own choice. I find nothing wrong with how this family is coping with a heartbreaking situation. As far as the “couple” making this choice, do you think they discussed such a scenario before, when she was mentally capable of consenting to the arrangement? An interesting component of a living will/medical directive.
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Post by MerryMom on Jan 29, 2019 2:50:41 GMT
While I believe he has to make his own choices, I do think he could be a bit more discreet. Out of respect for his wife.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jan 29, 2019 2:51:40 GMT
I don’t have a problem with it, if the wife is well care for. The husband could put her in a facility and walk away and never even visit her, that would be much more cruel.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 29, 2019 3:09:24 GMT
A while back I posted here that Justice Sandra Day O'Connor watched her DH fall in love and court another woman in the facility they both lived in.
I make no judgement of the family in the above posted article.
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Post by teddyw on Jan 29, 2019 3:33:17 GMT
If it works for them great.
But he doesn’t have to post it on Facebook. That part just doesn’t feel right to me.
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Post by tamiq on Jan 29, 2019 11:57:30 GMT
Daily MailIt seems peoples feelings are all over the place on the internet.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jan 29, 2019 14:31:25 GMT
My first thought is it is their business. As is my second thought. I seriously would NEVER judge anyone in a situation like this. It is absolutely horrific and thoroughly mind-numbing to care for someone who has such a serious illness. I have not read the story, but if he's taking care of her, then he gets to make these decisions himself. If he is not taking care of her, i.e. she is in a home, then that is also fine as well. This just has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone other than them. This.
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Post by aprilfay21 on Jan 29, 2019 14:36:18 GMT
It is a very complex issue. Having seen loved ones with Alzheimer's there is no way I will judge anyone for decision they make in the care of the person with the illness. There seems to be a lot of love in that house from her husband, his girlfriend and daughter. As long as B is being taken care of I don't think it is anyone's business. This. I don't pretend to know what I would do, or how I would feel, in this situation, but they all seem to love B and she seems well cared for. I don't have a problem with this for them.
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Post by dewryce on Jan 29, 2019 14:57:14 GMT
This runs in my family so it’s something I’ve given quite a bit of thought. Not DH having a girlfriend live with us, but what I expect of/want from him if I am no longer “me.” I have no doubts he’d take care of me, but I have been thinking, what kind of life do I want for him? He doesn’t like talking about it, doesn’t like the idea of putting me in a special care facility. But if I’m not there and wouldn’t know the difference, I feel like it is holding his life hostage so he can be miserable watching me regress and slowly die. He disagrees, but I don’t want that for him, I’m in tears just thinking about it.
So, my thought process at the moment is it seems they have found something that works for them and she is receiving loving care.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 29, 2019 15:04:01 GMT
I'm not judging. It seems to work for them.
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