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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 30, 2019 1:30:27 GMT
I made rice in a rice cooker last night with the intention of making too much so I could have leftovers for lunch. I packed my lunch as I was plating dinner and immediately put my lunch in the fridge and reheated it in a microwave this morning. I didn’t think twice.
Now rice thanhad been sitting out overnight in the rice cooker that managed to stay on the “stay warm” setting all night, that’s trash.
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Post by paget on Jan 30, 2019 1:37:55 GMT
I never knew knew about the risks with storing and reheating rice. It’s a wonder my family is all alive and well. Wow.
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Post by mom on Jan 30, 2019 1:41:30 GMT
I thought about making a thread about what things you've found on the sidewalk and ate besides cupcakes but I thought it would be a short thread. Wellllllll...... when I saw a thread recently that asked if anyone has pencil lead stuck in them, I thought for sure that would be a short thread, with only the OP answering in the affirmative. Boy was I wrong! Who would have thought so many people have been stabbed with a pencil and still have the tip still stuck inside their body?!?! And just for good measure, I am going to gently remind my sons NOT to eat 5 day old, unrefridgerated shaghetti. I assume they know, but just in case.... Yeah, just out of interest I asked my 14yo son whether he would eat spaghetti that had been sitting on the bench for 5 days. Thankfully he answered "No way!" and was shocked that a college aged kid would have done so. I just asked both my kids (17 & 19) and apparently they already knew not to eat this as well. Their reason was ‘who’d do that?!’ Whew. Maybe I did teach them one thing right!
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Post by jayfab on Jan 30, 2019 2:11:11 GMT
Holy Toledo!
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jan 30, 2019 2:31:14 GMT
Who else just cleaned out their fridge?!
I always thought that pasta and rice were safer foods in regards to food poisoning. I guess you learn something new every day.
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Post by ihaveonly1l on Jan 30, 2019 2:43:27 GMT
I’m a food date “labeler” too. I have a wet erase marker next to the fridge so I can slap a date on containers as I put random things in the fridge. When in doubt, I throw it out.
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Post by lucyg on Jan 30, 2019 2:58:18 GMT
When you make fried rice, you’re *supposed* to cook it first, then chill overnight, then make your fried rice. Then the leftovers go in the fridge (in my house) to be reheated the next day for lunch (or round 2 of dinner, in my grandson’s case). So far, I haven’t killed him. Okay, I will be more careful about chilling quickly after cooking. But we aren’t giving up our fried rice. Why did I never hear these rules before? Crud! And what about the cooked, frozen, ready-to-nuke rice I get from Trader Joe’s freezer case? That’s cooked/chilled/reheated. Damn, I hate all these rules.
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Post by trollie on Jan 30, 2019 3:15:14 GMT
Pasta, potatoes and rice are only good for a couple of days in the fridge. Actually, you probably shouldn't eat anything left over after 2 days unless you can freeze it. Where did you get this info? Still tasty website says pasta is good refrigerated for 3-5 days. I remember reading it long ago. Cannot cite a source. These are items that most people don't worry about. I remember the article citing the potatoes in potato salad are more of a worry than the mayo. I keep left overs for 2 days max to be safe.
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Post by jackietex on Jan 30, 2019 3:18:20 GMT
We have "family week" in Michigan and some of us stay longer in individual cottages. When we leave we give my in-laws some of our left over items, and one time we found that they were serving mustard that someone had given them the summer before, so it had sat (open) in their cottage that had no power for 7 months.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jan 30, 2019 3:24:11 GMT
That's really sad.
I didn't know that rice was a big danger. Whenever I make rice I make enough to have leftovers for a few days. And I'm not super militant about getting it in the fridge asap. I'm going to start popping it in the fridge really quick now.
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Post by Zee on Jan 30, 2019 3:25:55 GMT
We have "family week" in Michigan and some of us stay longer in individual cottages. When we leave we give my in-laws some of our left over items, and one time we found that they were serving mustard that someone had given them the summer before, so it had sat (open) in their cottage that had no power for 7 months. Mustard doesn't have to be refrigerated. Neither does ketchup.
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Post by ModChick on Jan 30, 2019 3:40:00 GMT
How very sad. I’m going to relate this story to my neighbor who was in full belly laugh at me when she saw something in my refrigerator. I had a partially used box of chicken broth in there and I wrote the date that I opened it on the container. Sometimes I forget how many days it has been in the refrigerator and I have a fear of spoiled foods, especially meat-related. She thought I was crazy. I told her i’d Rather be crazy than spend a day on the toilet getting sick. Death hadn’t occurred to me. Truthfully, I was unaware of the rice/pasta thing. I would eat 5-day old plain pasta if it had been in the refrigerator the entire time. I admit I put the date on pasta sauce if there is any left in the jar too. So this was left on the counter for 5 days? I would be sure there would be visable mold in it after that long. No? I do this too on broth! I can never remember when I open it. 😆
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jan 30, 2019 11:13:47 GMT
I'm also one who dates everything in the fridge. I have a Sharpie in my drawer just for that purpose.
My ex-FIL would make fruit salad and insist that it be left on the kitchen table for DAYS, to be served from anytime people were snacky.
He would just scoop out the flies when they drown in the juice.
Omg, just no. He was so offended when I wouldn't eat it.
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Post by monklady123 on Jan 30, 2019 12:52:22 GMT
Wow, the things I learn on this board. We've eaten leftover rice forever and I don't plan to stop now. I even let it sit on the stove, or in my Instant Pot, for awhile until it can be put away, or after cooking until everyone gets home to eat it. I've taken it to work for lunch and just left it sitting in my lunch bag because some teachers don't have a refrigerator in their room. It's a wonder I'm still alive.
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Post by liya on Jan 30, 2019 15:47:04 GMT
I have so many thoughts reading this thread. The first one is that I am such a rebel when it comes to food. The fact that I haven't been sick from eating at home makes me realize I probably won't ever change what I currently do.
Secondly I probably keep certain items past their "expiration" date-(my age is going to come out now) certain items didn't always have an expiration date. If it's obviously spoiled out it goes but otherwise I'll give it a chance I have been known to pick the mold off bread because I needed it and I had no other bread at the time. I wouldn't do it to a guest but for myself no big deal.
Third: At home my college aged DS will not eat leftovers; hopefully there is not 5 day old spaghetti sitting in his kitchen.
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Post by Just T on Jan 30, 2019 15:52:58 GMT
Wow, I had NO idea that you could get food poisoning from rice and pasta. Scary to think how many times I have left them out for an hour or so waiting for someone who was late for dinner. I won't do that anymore! I have also made extra rice to save for lunches, etc, and I am pretty sure I have eaten for a few days afterwards. (stored in the fridge, of course)
The story in the OP is just sad. I will be sure to ask my college age kids if they would eat something that had been sitting out for 5 days. I don't think so.
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Post by katlady on Jan 30, 2019 16:14:41 GMT
So, the rice thing, why are all the people in Japan not in hospitals?! Lol! Rice balls are almost a staple in their diet. They are eaten at room temperature and often sit in a person’s lunch box all morning without refrigeration. And the Japanese have their automatic rice cookers that keep rice warm all day long.
For me, growing up, if the house was cold, my mom would leave the extra cooked rice on the counter overnight. We would eat it the next day.
Yes, I am confused about the rice storage issue. Lol!
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Post by femalebusiness on Jan 30, 2019 17:09:39 GMT
my sisters and i go through my mom's refrigerator and pantry and throw things out that have expired. found a five year old salad dressing in there last year. my mom gets mad ("it's still good!") so we do it a little at a time. i guess we'd rather her think she's crazy than to die from salmonella. We had to do that at my MIL’s house too. When we cleaned out her cupboards after she passed away, we were amazed by the dates on some of the stuff we threw away. We realized some of it had to have been YEARS out of date when she moved in and brought it with her from her previous house and was still there in the cabinet at least 6-8 more years later! You definitely took your life in your hands eating at her house if she was preparing the food. We must be sisters, same mother. My mother moved tons of years old food from one house to the new one. After she died I found a twenty year old, opened package, of Peet's coffee that she'd been saving for a special occasion.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2019 17:17:00 GMT
We had to do that at my MIL’s house too. When we cleaned out her cupboards after she passed away, we were amazed by the dates on some of the stuff we threw away. We realized some of it had to have been YEARS out of date when she moved in and brought it with her from her previous house and was still there in the cabinet at least 6-8 more years later! You definitely took your life in your hands eating at her house if she was preparing the food. We must be sisters, same mother. My mother moved tons of years old food from one house to the new one. After she died I found a twenty year old, opened package, of Peet's coffee that she'd been saving for a special occasion. LOL! While I think my MIL was bad, I think a friend of ours has everyone beat. There are mason jars full of stuff in her basement that I think her GRANDMOTHER canned. Our friend is almost 63, and Grandma has been dead for multiple DECADES. The house has been occupied by the same family since it was built in 1965. Friend wants help cleaning out the house and basement. I’m sure the jars are antiques, but there’s NO WAY I’m risking opening those jars to try to salvage them. I’m sure they’re filled with botulism by now.
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Post by Merge on Jan 30, 2019 17:58:35 GMT
I didn't know about rice and pasta being so touchy like that. So many dishes are made with leftover rice.
I think we can all agree that pasta left unrefrigerated for five days is dangerous and should not be eaten.
For me, when I read this story I was thinking about books like The Glass Castle or Educated, where the main character grew up in a crazy family that didnt keep up normal standards of cleanliness or food safety. I wondered if this kid had been raised like that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jan 30, 2019 18:47:55 GMT
I really wish we would stop equating food safety practices with "expiration dates". I'm terribly sorry to hear of this young man's death, but it has nothing to do with expiration dates. The vast majority of dates on foods are NOT expiration dates. They're peak flavor dates. They are NOT at all tied to food safety. We waste an insane amount of food when people toss perfectly good food based on a misguided notion that it's not safe to eat. A few articles www.nrdc.org/media/2013/130918www.consumerreports.org/food-safety/how-to-tell-whether-expired-food-is-safe-to-eat/The article also reiterates the most important part of food safety - listen to you nose - if it smells or tastes off, don't eat it - irregardless of any date.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2019 19:25:00 GMT
I really wish we would stop equating food safety practices with "expiration dates". I'm terribly sorry to hear of this young man's death, but it has nothing to do with expiration dates. The vast majority of dates on foods are NOT expiration dates. They're peak flavor dates. They are NOT at all tied to food safety. We waste an insane amount of food when people toss perfectly good food based on a misguided notion that it's not safe to eat. A few articles www.nrdc.org/media/2013/130918www.consumerreports.org/food-safety/how-to-tell-whether-expired-food-is-safe-to-eat/The article also reiterates the most important part of food safety - listen to you nose - if it smells or tastes off, don't eat it - irregardless of any date. I get that, but when the Best By date was 5-10 *years* ago? Sorry, still NOT eating it!
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 30, 2019 19:38:37 GMT
This thread is sad and terrifying. I had no idea that rice could be so dangerous. I’m surprised I haven’t died.
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Post by anniefb on Jan 30, 2019 19:49:10 GMT
Very sad but I just can't imagine who would do something like that.
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Post by threegirls on Jan 30, 2019 20:15:14 GMT
This thread got me thinking about the homemade rice pudding I make. It doesn't usually last too long around here (my girls love it). By day 3 it is gone. I googled "how long does rice pudding last in the fridge" It looks like the consensus is 5-7 days but that seems a little long to me.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 30, 2019 20:28:27 GMT
We have "family week" in Michigan and some of us stay longer in individual cottages. When we leave we give my in-laws some of our left over items, and one time we found that they were serving mustard that someone had given them the summer before, so it had sat (open) in their cottage that had no power for 7 months. The vinegar in the mustard preserves it. I keep mine in the fridge, but think of the big containers of ketchup and mustard out at Costco/picnic areas, etc. They aren't refrigerated and they sit out all day. I would think the quality would be compromised, but it's probably safe to consume.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jan 30, 2019 20:31:30 GMT
Well I'm happy to report I survived the night after eating re-heated, re-heated days old rice yesterday!
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jan 30, 2019 20:42:03 GMT
In college we ate the pizza that was left out all night. Ew. I wouldn't do it now even though we never got sick.
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Post by Just T on Jan 30, 2019 20:47:05 GMT
We have "family week" in Michigan and some of us stay longer in individual cottages. When we leave we give my in-laws some of our left over items, and one time we found that they were serving mustard that someone had given them the summer before, so it had sat (open) in their cottage that had no power for 7 months. The vinegar in the mustard preserves it. I keep mine in the fridge, but think of the big containers of ketchup and mustard out at Costco/picnic areas, etc. They aren't refrigerated and they sit out all day. I would think the quality would be compromised, but it's probably safe to consume. When I was growing up, no one I knew refrigerated ketchup and mustard. The first time I met someone who did was when I met my husband in college. LOL Now, most people I know refrigerate both things. Wonder why the switch?
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Post by hop2 on Jan 30, 2019 21:03:51 GMT
No I wouldn’t. Most of the sauces used on pasta will be rancid in a day unrefidgerated.
Rancid tomato sauce is disgusting ( yes I know unfortunately )
Poor kid. I wonder if there just wasn’t anything else to eat?
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