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Post by Merge on Jan 29, 2019 20:18:57 GMT
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Post by farmdpea on Jan 29, 2019 20:23:32 GMT
Oh, man. Poor kid. I assumed basic food safety was fairly common knowledge, but I guess not.
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Post by Zee on Jan 29, 2019 20:27:52 GMT
Who on earth would leave pasta out for five days and eat it? It wouldn't even taste or smell good at that point. Blecch. But how timely a thread...I was eating a Ferrero Rocher hazelnut just now and remembered the time I found a hazelnut in its casing on the ground in the park and decided to eat it, out of curiosity. I'd like to say I was 7, but I was actually 44 years old. I thought about making a thread about what things you've found on the sidewalk and ate besides cupcakes but I thought it would be a short thread. (I peeled and ate it, after checking for bugs--i was curious and watching a season of Alone at the time and thinking about how I could feed myself in a survival situation, in that park. I ate the raspberries too. I stopped short of boiling the crawdads I found in the stream)
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 29, 2019 20:29:12 GMT
Who on earth would leave pasta out for five days and eat it? It wouldn't even taste or smell good at that point. Blecch. But how timely a thread...I was eating a Ferrero Rocher hazelnut just now and remembered the time I found a hazelnut in its casing on the ground in the park and decided to eat it, out of curiosity. I'd like to say I was 7, but I was actually 44 years old. I thought about making a thread about what things you've found on the sidewalk and ate besides cupcakes but I thought it would be a short thread. (I peeled and ate it, after checking for bugs--i was curious and watching a season of Alone at the time and thinking about how I could feed myself in a survival situation, in that park. I ate the raspberries too. I stopped short of boiling the crawdads I found in the stream) short thread, yes it would!
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Post by elaine on Jan 29, 2019 20:29:26 GMT
Yikes!
And then the story of the family eating 8-day old pasta salad and all getting sick with the 7 y.o. passing away from liver failure.
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Post by vspindler on Jan 29, 2019 20:38:37 GMT
And this is exactly why my MIL’s “it was only opened a little” for year-past expired jar goods (specifically shrimp sauce) concerns me.
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Post by Peace Sign on Jan 29, 2019 20:43:28 GMT
And this is exactly why my MIL’s “it was only opened a little” for year-past expired jar goods (specifically shrimp sauce) concerns me. my sisters and i go through my mom's refrigerator and pantry and throw things out that have expired. found a five year old salad dressing in there last year. my mom gets mad ("it's still good!") so we do it a little at a time. i guess we'd rather her think she's crazy than to die from salmonella.
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Post by joelise on Jan 29, 2019 20:52:11 GMT
How sad. The worrying thing is that if it wasn’t for me then my soon to be DH would actually do this too and he’s 41!
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Post by padresfan619 on Jan 29, 2019 20:55:12 GMT
I wouldn’t eat five day leftover pasta that was left in the fridge.
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Post by Lexica on Jan 29, 2019 20:57:29 GMT
How very sad. I’m going to relate this story to my neighbor who was in full belly laugh at me when she saw something in my refrigerator. I had a partially used box of chicken broth in there and I wrote the date that I opened it on the container. Sometimes I forget how many days it has been in the refrigerator and I have a fear of spoiled foods, especially meat-related. She thought I was crazy. I told her i’d Rather be crazy than spend a day on the toilet getting sick. Death hadn’t occurred to me. Truthfully, I was unaware of the rice/pasta thing. I would eat 5-day old plain pasta if it had been in the refrigerator the entire time. I admit I put the date on pasta sauce if there is any left in the jar too. So this was left on the counter for 5 days? I would be sure there would be visable mold in it after that long. No?
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Jan 29, 2019 21:05:05 GMT
So this was left on the counter for 5 days? I would be sure there would be visable mold in it after that long. No? There might have been some visible mold, but when culturing mold in a lab it usually takes 3-5 days for it to appear. The official FDA Bacteriological Analytical Manual (BAM) method calls for 5 days of incubation for yeasts and molds.
Signed, Your Resident Food Safety Professional
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 29, 2019 21:05:51 GMT
And this is exactly why my MIL’s “it was only opened a little” for year-past expired jar goods (specifically shrimp sauce) concerns me. my sisters and i go through my mom's refrigerator and pantry and throw things out that have expired. found a five year old salad dressing in there last year. my mom gets mad ("it's still good!") so we do it a little at a time. i guess we'd rather her think she's crazy than to die from salmonella. We had to do that at my MIL’s house too. When we cleaned out her cupboards after she passed away, we were amazed by the dates on some of the stuff we threw away. We realized some of it had to have been YEARS out of date when she moved in and brought it with her from her previous house and was still there in the cabinet at least 6-8 more years later! You definitely took your life in your hands eating at her house if she was preparing the food.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 21:08:31 GMT
How tragic. I wouldn't eat a day old pasta even if it had been in the fridge, I hate "stale" pasta and as for re heating it ...ugh!! Rice is another food that you should never re heat either.
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Post by trollie on Jan 29, 2019 21:17:47 GMT
Pasta, potatoes and rice are only good for a couple of days in the fridge. Actually, you probably shouldn't eat anything left over after 2 days unless you can freeze it.
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Post by librarylady on Jan 29, 2019 21:19:11 GMT
...I recall from a story about Lizzie Borden: Her father was very tight with money. They were eating a stew (?) that had been on the stove for a week. The book where I read that--the author had an aside comment and suggested that was why Lizzie was angry--having to eat such bad food.
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Post by peaname on Jan 29, 2019 21:35:06 GMT
Pasta, potatoes and rice are only good for a couple of days in the fridge. Actually, you probably shouldn't eat anything left over after 2 days unless you can freeze it. Where did you get this info? Still tasty website says pasta is good refrigerated for 3-5 days.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 29, 2019 21:53:16 GMT
And this is exactly why my MIL’s “it was only opened a little” for year-past expired jar goods (specifically shrimp sauce) concerns me. my MIL's was opened for a lot. years. we had to go through her fridge and medicine cabinet because she gave DH advil that was years and years expired. what was left had sharpie writing of expiration dates on top of the lid so there was no mistaking when it would expire.
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Post by sampy on Jan 29, 2019 21:55:02 GMT
My old roommates used to do this type of thing. Make tacos, leave meat out all night. Return the next evening and eat the meat. They used to get mad at me for throwing it out because I needed to use the pan!
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Post by mom on Jan 29, 2019 23:19:58 GMT
And just for good measure, I am going to gently remind my sons NOT to eat 5 day old, unrefridgerated shaghetti. I assume they know, but just in case....
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Post by Jockscrap on Jan 29, 2019 23:55:55 GMT
What an awful story. I have absolutely no problem eating cooked pasta, rice or potatoes that have been kept in the fridge for several days. I am aware of being careful with rice and often make extra to have to reheat another day. Once cooked I immmediatley rinse rice under cold water and stick in the fridge. A tip I learned here and I think is promoted by your FDA but I have never heard said in the UK, is that it is safer to put warm food into the fridge and have the fridge temp rise a bit but soon recover than leave things out to cool. I now always do that too. I have a separate colder section of my fridge with a flap over it which is meant for meat I think and I try to put the warm stuff in there. Otherwise, I make sure the warm food isn’t touching anything. Reheated pasta, rice and potatoes is better for you as the chemical structure changes and we digest it more like a fibre. I’ll keep eating leftovers as I’ve always done. LinkSobering story though - most folk wouldn’t associate food poising with being fatal. So sad.
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Post by shescrafty on Jan 30, 2019 0:04:42 GMT
I read this in the article so I thought it was saying this exact thing did not haplen:
Dr Bernard's report is loosely based on a few cases of this kind of food poisoning. Please note that in this case the student drank a bottle of medicine. This is not true of the student from Belgium discussed in the body of the article.
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Post by AussieMeg on Jan 30, 2019 0:35:12 GMT
I thought about making a thread about what things you've found on the sidewalk and ate besides cupcakes but I thought it would be a short thread. Wellllllll...... when I saw a thread recently that asked if anyone has pencil lead stuck in them, I thought for sure that would be a short thread, with only the OP answering in the affirmative. Boy was I wrong! Who would have thought so many people have been stabbed with a pencil and still have the tip still stuck inside their body?!?! And just for good measure, I am going to gently remind my sons NOT to eat 5 day old, unrefridgerated shaghetti. I assume they know, but just in case.... Yeah, just out of interest I asked my 14yo son whether he would eat spaghetti that had been sitting on the bench for 5 days. Thankfully he answered "No way!" and was shocked that a college aged kid would have done so.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 30, 2019 0:42:03 GMT
Rice is another food that you should never re heat either. That's not true. It all depends on how the rice is handled at the various stages. From the NHS website: link
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Post by Gennifer on Jan 30, 2019 0:46:22 GMT
I totally ate fried rice last week after it sat out for a few hours. I’m probably dying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:50:54 GMT
Rice is another food that you should never re heat either. That's not true. It all depends on how the rice is handled at the various stages. From the NHS website: linkYeh I know that if you follow the guide lines it's ok but many people don't, especially for the bolded one. If you have a meal the possibility of that rice dish sitting on the table until everyone has finished could make it well over an hour. A lot of people also re heat rice in the microwave and the food can have " cold" areas.
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Post by NanaKate on Jan 30, 2019 0:56:40 GMT
How tragic. I wouldn't eat a day old pasta even if it had been in the fridge, I hate "stale" pasta and as for re heating it ...ugh!! Rice is another food that you should never re heat either. Why shouldn’t you reheat rice? Never mind. Read the rest of the thread. Been eating leftover rice my whole life. We must have cast iron stomachs around here!
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Post by pjaye on Jan 30, 2019 1:06:19 GMT
Yeh I know that if you follow the guide lines it's ok but many people don't, If people don't follow basic food safety rules that's on them, it doesn't make it any more or less safe for anyone else. You said rice should "never be reheated" and you are posting it as if it's a fact, and it's not. That's like saying you should "never drive" because some people who drive don't follow the road rules and die in accidents. The fact is that rice can be safely reheated if the correct steps are followed.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 30, 2019 1:15:55 GMT
Read the rest of the thread. Been eating leftover rice my whole life. We must have cast iron stomachs around here! There is a risk of B. Cereus contamination in rice. Some of it depends on pantry hygiene (dust, open bags of rice, old rice etc). Then in some cases the cooking doesn't kill the spores and may even increase them. Then if the rice is left out for too long or not heated correctly the amount of bacteria will have increased enough to potentially make people sick. It is a legitimate risk, however it's still unlikely to make most healthy adults sick, the risk is much greater for those who already have compromised immune systems. Unless of course you've managed to really screw up every stage of the preparation, do it all incorrectly and there's a huge bacterial load, then it probably ill make everyone sick.
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Post by Frazzled Mom on Jan 30, 2019 1:18:29 GMT
Sometimes I forget how many days it has been in the refrigerator a I date food, too. I got tired of the "we just had/made/opened that" arguments with my SO who hates to waste food and has a cast iron stomach (unlike me). Now everyone knows exactly how long the food's been in there and I can toss out the old stuff guilt free - when he isn't looking...
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jan 30, 2019 1:25:30 GMT
Rice is another food that you should never re heat either. That's not true. It all depends on how the rice is handled at the various stages. From the NHS website: linkWell I just re-heated, re-heated rice for lunch today that I made a few days ago So I did two of these! Am I not going to survive the night? 😳 Now that I know, I won’t do it again but I’ve always reheated rice. I do heat it until it’s steaming hot, so maybe I’ll be ok? 😁
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