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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 15:04:19 GMT
He put some walls where they were needed. But there is absolutely no need for a wall from sea to sea!! Whether it is me or anyone else, including the president, should listen to the experts mostly who are on scene! Decisions should be based on FACTS. Homeland Security, Border Agents, etc have stated repeatedly that MOST drugs come through Ports of Entry, including the southern border as well as by air and sea. They have requested more physical help/man power at the ports of entry to help catch more illegal items, including drugs. All of that - and also yes, opinions change as our understanding of the situation changes. Isn't that what we keep hearing from Trumpers? That he's not the vile pussy-grabber and hound dog he used to be, and is now a champion for women and the unborn? We hear all the time how a complete waste of oxygen reality TV star was miraculously transformed into the savior of America. But Joe Biden can't have changed his position on a border fence. OK then. Sounds like you are a little jelly obamy didn't have a pussy to grab just another dick.
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Post by Merge on Feb 20, 2019 15:05:39 GMT
Just say my name Fred. Gezus. . You may want to knock that chip off your shoulder and look how many people have become willing partners with this person. Oh, you do it sometimes too, Fred. Relax.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 15:39:42 GMT
You may want to knock that chip off your shoulder and look how many people have become willing partners with this person. Oh, you do it sometimes too, Fred. Relax. Somehow we have managed to get this far without this thread being derailed to nothing but hurling insults back and forth that was the demise of so many other political threads. But lately, with this thread pretty much being the only game in town, those who have no interest except to derail political threads have been making their way here and when they do, they find willing partners. And you are correct that I have been a willing partner, in fact I wrote a long post in response to this Carly person’s post about the fence. Then I deleted it because as I was getting ready to push the post button I thought why. What is the point of engaging with these guys? What do we hope to accomplish? They are not interested in anything we have to say, so what is the point of engaging with them? Really what is the point? Anyone? I can’t control what people post, I can only voice my opinion, which I have done. It’s now up to you all how and if this thread continues, or does it end up like so many other political threads.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 20, 2019 16:15:27 GMT
IF McCabe is telling the whole truth.... This is more then interesting, Nunez knew, as well as McConnell/Ryan?!?!?!? How could they so vigorously defend him?!?!
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 20, 2019 16:19:56 GMT
IF McCabe is telling the whole truth.... This is more then interesting, Nunez knew, as well as McConnell/Ryan?!?!?!? How could they so vigorously defend him?!?! Because they too are complicit!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:29:04 GMT
linkMoving on, something to ponder IMO from Think Progress.. “One Democrat in the race seems serious about governing, and it’s not Bernie Sanders” “Whatever you think of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), the frumpy Vermont senator deserves credit for expanding the substantive ambition of the Democratic presidential field. Sanders’ unexpectedly strong 2016 primary campaign proved that there is a hunger for big ideas like Medicare for All within the Democratic electorate, and its now likely that whoever the 2020 Democratic nominee is, they will support some form of universal single-payer health care. Yet, for all of Sanders’ capacious vision, he told CBS news on Tuesday that he’ll try to cram it all in a tiny procedural box. Sanders, in the more extended interview with John Dickerson, says he's "not crazy about getting rid of the filibuster."The stakes surrounding the filibuster are extraordinarily high. Democrats could have a blowout election year in 2020 — capturing Senate seats in places like Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina — and still not reach the 60 seat supermajority necessary to break a Republican filibuster. And, so long as Republicans have the power to filibuster, Democrats’ entire agenda will be reduced to fiscal policy. There will be no new laws expanding voting rights — or any civil rights legislation of any kind, for that matter. No legislation regulating any industry. No protections for unions or other laws protecting works. And the elected branches will be entirely at the mercy of a rogue Supreme Court. Nor is Sanders alone among Democratic contenders in his defense of one of the Senate’s many anti-democratic institutions. Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) says he will “personally resist” efforts to get rid of the filibuster. Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) even said that she regrets changing the Senate’s rules in 2013 to prevent Republicans from blocking President Obama’s nominees. It is the curse of the Senate that so many of its members believe that they belong to a grand debating society, and not a malapportioned immorality where democracy goes to die. Compare Sanders’ remarks to those of a much more obscure presidential candidate. In many ways, South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s 2020 campaign resembles Sanders’ 2016 campaign — except that the young mayor is even more of a long shot to win the party’s nomination. Yet, if Sanders’ unlikely 2016 bid was characterized by its substantive ambition, Buttigieg distinguishes himself by his willingness to speak uncomfortable procedural truths. “@petebuttigieg on court packing: “It’s no more a departure from norms than what the Republicans did to get the judiciary to the place it is today….Bold, ambitious ideas need a hearing right now."“ At Philly book event, @petebuttigieg says need to start “questioning [the electoral college] that twice in my lifetime has overruled the American people. Asking whether it makes sense to go on w/DC & Puerto Rico denied full political representation…."
Buttigieg’s full remarks on the subject are worth watching in full (they begin about 23 minutes into a town hall you can watch at this link). An audience member asks Buttigieg whether, as president, he would be willing to add four seats to the Supreme Court if a Republican majority that includes a stolen seat sets out to thwart Buttigieg’s entire legislative agenda. The question provokes a combination of gasps, murmurs, applauds, and uncomfortable laughter from the rest of the audience. Yet, while Buttigieg admits that he’s “not reached a considered position on the issue of court packing,” he also recognizes that the existential threats to democracy presented by men like Neil Gorsuch may require a proportional response. “I don’t think we should be laughing at it,” Buttigieg tells his ambitious questioner, before acknowledging that court-packing is “no more a shattering of norms than what’s already been done to get the judiciary to where it is today.” After stating his ambivalence about court packing, the mayor then rattles a list of reforms he is prepared to endorse right away. Including redistricting reforms, getting rid of the Electoral College, full voting rights for Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, and potentially a constitutional amendment to overrule the Supreme Court’s money in politics decision in Citizens United v. FEC. A constitutional amendment is almost certainly off the table — the threshold for amending the Constitution is so high as to make it impossible if any meaningful political faction opposes that amendment. But Congress has the power to require every state to draw legislative districts with a non-partisan commission. It has the power to admit Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia as states. And it has the power, if needed, to add more seats to the Supreme Court. There’s also a proposal, known as the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, that could potentially abolish the Electoral College’s relevance without an amendment. The striking thing about Buttigieg’s thinking in this space is that his ideas are commensurate to the threats facing American democracy — or at least they are in the same ballpark. Admitting DC and Puerto Rico as states won’t fix the problem where each person in Wyoming has 68 times as much Senate representation as a person in California, but it could help prevent the Senate from permanently falling in to Republican hands. Packing the Supreme Court is an awesome and dangerous proposal that would destroy the legitimacy of the federal judiciary if implemented. But a credible threat to pack the court may scare Chief Justice John Roberts away from decisions that would skew elections and unfairly lock Democrats out of power. Democrats must think in these terms if they wish to restore democracy to a nation with an unelected president, a Senate that gives so much extra representation to small Republican states that Democrats soon lose control of it permanently, and a Supreme Court whose membership is determined by unelected presidents and a rigged Senate. Big substantive ideas aren’t enough. You can have the best health policy in the world, but it won’t mean a thing if the United States does not have free and fair elections.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:54:00 GMT
linkShane Harris... ”Trump said his intelligence director is “not loyal.” Now, US officials think the president will fire him. New from me @jdawsey1 and @nakashimae” From The Washington Post “Trump grows frustrated with Coats, leading some to fear he might be fired”
After the hearings I wondered if Dan Coates would be next on trump’s hit list.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 16:59:38 GMT
The Washington PostGreg Sargent.. ”Also in this piece: I spoke to an ACLU lawyer about what's at stake in their lawsuit against national emergency. A core question: Whether Trump has the discretion not just to fabricate a national emergency, but also the idea that the armed forces are necessary to address it” Good question.
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 20, 2019 17:10:29 GMT
Oh, you do it sometimes too, Fred. Relax. Somehow we have managed to get this far without this thread being derailed to nothing but hurling insults back and forth that was the demise of so many other political threads. But lately, with this thread pretty much being the only game in town, those who have no interest except to derail political threads have been making their way here and when they do, they find willing partners. And you are correct that I have been a willing partner, in fact I wrote a long post in response to this Carly person’s post about the fence. Then I deleted it because as I was getting ready to push the post button I thought why. What is the point of engaging with these guys? What do we hope to accomplish? They are not interested in anything we have to say, so what is the point of engaging with them? Really what is the point? Anyone? I can’t control what people post, I can only voice my opinion, which I have done. It’s now up to you all how and if this thread continues, or does it end up like so many other political threads. Exactly!!! The back & forth puts both sides in equal bad form. I completely understand wanting to defend oneself, I’m the same way. But there’s no sense in the repeated bickering/personal insults; it’s not going to change anyone and it is going to drive folks away from the thread who are here for purposes other than hating the “other side”.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:41:27 GMT
linkI believe this is an example of “elections have consequences “. From the Washington Post.... “White House prepares to scrutinize intelligence agencies’ finding that climate change threatens national security” “The White House is working to assemble a panel to assess whether climate change poses a national security threat, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post, a conclusion that federal intelligence agencies have affirmed several times since President Trump took office. The proposed Presidential Committee on Climate Security, which would be established by executive order, is being spearheaded by William Happer, a National Security Council senior director. Happer, an emeritus professor of physics at Princeton University, has said that carbon emissions linked to climate change should be viewed as an asset rather than a pollutant. Me - isn’t this a case of putting a 🦊 in the 🐔 house? The initiative represents the Trump administration’s most recent attempt to question the findings of federal scientists and experts on climate change and comes less than three weeks after Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats delivered a worldwide threat assessment that identified it as a significant security risk. In late November, Trump dismissed a government report finding that global warming is intensifying and poses a major threat the U.S. economy, saying, “I don’t see it.” Last month, his nominee to head the Environmental Protection Agency, acting administrator Andrew Wheeler, testified that he did not see climate change as one of the world’s pressing challenges. According to the NSC discussion paper, the order would create a federal advisory committee “to advise the President on scientific understanding of today’s climate, how the climate might change in the future under natural and human influences, and how a changing climate could affect the security of the United States.” The document notes that the government has issued several major reports under Trump identifying climate change as a serious threat. “However, these scientific and national security judgments have not undergone a rigorous independent and adversarial scientific peer review to examine the certainties and uncertainties of climate science, as well as implications for national security,” it said. Francesco Femia, chief executive officer of the Council on Strategic Risks and co-founder of the Center for Climate and Security, said in an interview that the plan appeared to be an effort to undermine the existing consensus within the national intelligence community that climate change needs to be addressed to avert serious consequences in the future. “This is the equivalent of setting up a committee on nuclear weapons proliferation and having someone lead it who doesn’t think nuclear weapons exist,” he said. “It’s honestly a blunt force political tool designed to shut the national security community up on climate change.” It is unclear how much support Happer’s initiative has inside the administration: Deputies from more than a dozen agencies have been invited to attend a meeting on the topic on Friday in the White House Situation Room. Several agencies declined to comment on the matter this week, including the NSC, the Pentagon, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Happer, who worked at the Energy Department under George H.W. Bush and joined the White House in September to work on “emerging technologies,” is not formally trained as a climate scientist. He developed a national reputation for his work on laser technology used in missile defense and on the interactions between light and atoms.
He has sat on the boards of two advocacy groups that have questioned whether global warming poses a serious risk, the CO2 Coalition and the George C. Marshall Institute. Last March, when asked in connection with court proceedings whether he had received money from the fossil fuel industry, Happer said he had been given somewhere between $10,000 and $15,000 from Peabody Coal to testify before a Minnesota Public Utilities Commission hearing.
During a December 2016 energy and climate policy summit sponsored by the conservative Heritage Foundation, Happer explained that the CO2 Coalition aimed to counter the idea that carbon dioxide is a pollutant because it is the primary driver of recent climate change. “I like to call this the CO2 anti-defamation league,” he said, gesturing to a slide, “because there is the CO2 molecule, and it has undergone decade after decade of abuse, for no reason. We’re doing our best to try and counter this myth that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant,” he said. “It’s not a pollutant at all. . . . We should be telling the scientific truth, that more CO2 is actually a benefit to the earth.”
Most scientists have taken a different view, concluding that the world must curb its carbon output in the next few decades or risk dire consequences. Global temperatures have risen roughly 1 degree Celsius, or 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, compared to preindustrial levels. A U.N. report issued in October said the world has to cut its emissions by more than 1 billion tons each year over the next decade to keep the rise from exceeding 1.5 degrees Celsius. The Trump administration, however, has accelerated domestic fossil fuel production and sought to reverse most of the curbs on greenhouse gas emissions adopted under President Barack Obama. Last year the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration published an analysis predicting that global temperature rise could reach 4 degrees Celsius, or 7 degrees Fahrenheit, under the government’s current trajectory. While several Trump appointees have argued that climate change does not pose a significant risk to the nation’s defense capabilities, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies have reached the opposite conclusion. The assessment Coats submitted on Jan. 29 to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, for example, states, “Global environmental and ecological degradation, as well as climate change, are likely to fuel competition for resources, economic distress, and social discontent through 2019 and beyond. The Defense Department said in a report submitted to Congress in mid-January that several dozen military installations around the nation are experiencing climate impacts. The assessment, which called climate change “a national security issue,” said rising seas, wildfires and other such disasters are likely to create more severe problems for the military in the coming years.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:45:38 GMT
So I finally watched Rachel’s show from last night. This whole thing of giving Saudis nuclear energy is not only dumb, but dangerous. But that is what happens when you have decision makers who care more about making a buck then the ramifications of their actions. Which pretty much describes the entire trump administration.
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Post by carly1030 on Feb 20, 2019 17:57:51 GMT
Oh, you do it sometimes too, Fred. Relax. Somehow we have managed to get this far without this thread being derailed to nothing but hurling insults back and forth that was the demise of so many other political threads. But lately, with this thread pretty much being the only game in town, those who have no interest except to derail political threads have been making their way here and when they do, they find willing partners. And you are correct that I have been a willing partner, in fact I wrote a long post in response to this Carly person’s post about the fence. Then I deleted it because as I was getting ready to push the post button I thought why. What is the point of engaging with these guys? What do we hope to accomplish? They are not interested in anything we have to say, so what is the point of engaging with them? Really what is the point? Anyone? I can’t control what people post, I can only voice my opinion, which I have done. It’s now up to you all how and if this thread continues, or does it end up like so many other political threads. Do you mean all the copy and paste articles you recite on here from every anti Trump news site? You are correct, the constant Trump bashing is not changing anyone's mind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 17:58:59 GMT
Ryan Lucas...
“Judge Pauley grants Michael Cohen's request to push back date to report to prison from March 6 to May 6. Cohen's lawyers cite need for "post-surgical physical therapy" and time to prep for testimony before 3 congressional committees.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:02:13 GMT
Second Nexus...
“READ: NBC’s First Read Reports 3 Trump Scandals, Writes ‘Any One of These Stories Would Have Dominated the News…But in Our Current Era, It Was Just Tuesday’”
Ain’t that the truth. #sad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:05:00 GMT
Newsweek...
“Kellyanne Conway hits back at CNN host, tells everyone to get used to Trump being president for another six years‘
Only if the American Voter is as dumb as trump. Let’s hope that is not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:16:50 GMT
linkNewsweek... “SCIENTISTS WARN TRUMP'S SPACE FORCE COULD INCENTIVIZE NATIONS TO BUILD SPACE WEAPONS: 'A PROFOUNDLY BAD IDEA'Well duh. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. 🚀
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Post by crazy4scraps on Feb 20, 2019 18:17:38 GMT
It must be something really, really good. There have been rumors for ages about his sexual preference. If he is not heterosexual, that would be my guess. And the fact that this would be considered blackmail material in this day and age truly depresses me. Meh. I think it would have to be something actually heinous or maybe treasonous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:42:59 GMT
David Axelrod...
”It will probably take well north of $100M just to navigate the first four Dem contests (plus CA.) That @berniesanders raised $4 million online in the 12 hours after entering the race is no small thing. Turns out you can raise millions flaying millionaires & billionaires!”
The little twist to the primaries is CA has moved theirs to Super Tuesday. At this point it’s Harris’s to lose. Even if Harris doesn’t do well in any of the other primaries, it would mean that the other candidates would have to do well on Super Tuesday to stay in the race after Super Tuesday. No matter how much money they raise. And in a big field, with limited primaries, it’s hard to do.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 20, 2019 19:00:25 GMT
Newsweek... “Kellyanne Conway hits back at CNN host, tells everyone to get used to Trump being president for another six years‘ Only if the American Voter is as dumb as trump. Let’s hope that is not the case. What they don't get is that 6 would not be enough... Their lives as they know it, will be forever changed which of course ours would be too! What they have today will be gone also. If dt thinks he is jumping through hoops now, he is in for a rude awakening, he will be fighting for his life and those of his kids and grandkids. Putin takes no prisoners! And dt and all will not be safe! I will probably not see it.
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Post by thundergal on Feb 20, 2019 19:12:58 GMT
There have been rumors for ages about his sexual preference. If he is not heterosexual, that would be my guess. And the fact that this would be considered blackmail material in this day and age truly depresses me. Meh. I think it would have to be something actually heinous or maybe treasonous. I agree. If it's his sexuality he's protecting, that's just so so sad. I feel like it's much more.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 20, 2019 19:36:42 GMT
So apparently walls and wheels aren’t the only effective medieval tools, who knew 🤷🏻♀️ Border patrol agents find drug catapult . I really feel like we need a hashtag along the lines of #quitwastingmyf’ingtaxdollars. It would get soooo much use for so many things! The wall does not stop drugs! Duh, the numerous ‘drug tunnels’ under the existing wall could tell anyone with a brain that. Which is why the one R Tep Hurd proposed a smart wall bill LAST year in Congress was saying more technology would be better as in more tunnel detecting technology & the manpower to respond to it. His ‘smart wall’ costs 1/2 a million per mile as opposed to 25 million per mile for a physical wall that will be constantly breached & circumvented. Excerpt from his comments: Hurd’s legislation calls for high-tech security solutions that include sensors, radar, lidar (light detection and ranging) and fiber optics, along with drones and cameras. “I think most Americans believe we’re using some of the latest technologies along the border. We’re not,” he said.
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Post by AmandaA on Feb 20, 2019 21:09:15 GMT
So here is something that has been on my mind with all of the speculation about the Meuller probe wrapping up (not in reference to any specific article or accounts... just the general speculation). I cannot imagine that he has not found a whole lot of information that will be very damaging to some very “important” people, but yet he has only taken down a few players so far. So do you think that was part of his strategy? Think he is saving everything else until the last second so that Trump can’t blow a gasket and shut the whole thing down if it started to feel too close? Do you have any level of anxiety that nothing will come of it... like no other criminal charges and little to nothing released about what was actually found (maybe we just get the idiot’s cherry picked half truths version)? I keep waffling between those last two scenarios and praying it isn’t the latter. It felt like the rumor mill had us soooo close to Felony Friday on so many occasions that I am just not sure what to expect at this point. How about you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 21:15:38 GMT
Was just coming to post this. Rutger is getting his ideas out there. I'm SO grateful.
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Post by hop2 on Feb 20, 2019 21:16:20 GMT
So here is something that has been on my mind with all of the speculation about the Meuller probe wrapping up (not in reference to any specific article or accounts... just the general speculation). I cannot imagine that he has not found a whole lot of information that will be very damaging to some very “important” people, but yet he has only taken down a few players so far. So do you think that was part of his strategy? Think he is saving everything else until the last second so that Trump can’t blow a gasket and shut the whole thing down if it started to feel too close? Do you have any level of anxiety that nothing will come of it... like no other criminal charges and little to nothing released about what was actually found (maybe we just get the idiot’s cherry picked half truths version)? I keep waffling between those last two scenarios and praying it isn’t the latter. It felt like the rumor mill had us soooo close to Felony Friday on so many occasions that I am just not sure what to expect at this point. How about you? There’s ‘something’ there. Otherwise Trump & co wouldn’t be trying so hard to shut it down. Everytime Mueller makes a move Trump goes nuts because he thinks it’s whatever big thing he is hiding. The only thing I fear is that it will be kept secret. I want it all out on the table. All of it. Every last detail of what was done and by whom, when needs to be out in the open the world needs to know what went down if there is any hope of avoiding it in the future. But I do fear that it will be squashed. Swept under the rug, highly redacted if released at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 22:33:19 GMT
Aaron Rupar..
”REPORTER: Mr President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why?
TRUMP: Say it?
REPORTER: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality across the world.
TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?”
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Post by lucyg on Feb 20, 2019 23:13:44 GMT
Aaron Rupar.. ”REPORTER: Mr President, on your push to decriminalize homosexuality, are you doing that? And why? TRUMP: Say it? REPORTER: Your push to decriminalize homosexuality across the world. TRUMP: I don't know which report you're talking about. We have many reports. Anybody else?” Idiot. 🤦♀️ (well, that doesn’t seem to be showing up very well ... it’s a facepalm)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 23:42:04 GMT
link Pete Buttigieg... ”The future of work on the era of automation is a subject calling for much more attention. In South Bend we’re working on empowering residents and workers for the future.” Hmm, he keeps saying things like this and the stuff in the other post I may have to move him up my list.
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 21, 2019 2:24:19 GMT
So here is something that has been on my mind with all of the speculation about the Meuller probe wrapping up (not in reference to any specific article or accounts... just the general speculation). I cannot imagine that he has not found a whole lot of information that will be very damaging to some very “important” people, but yet he has only taken down a few players so far. So do you think that was part of his strategy? Think he is saving everything else until the last second so that Trump can’t blow a gasket and shut the whole thing down if it started to feel too close? Do you have any level of anxiety that nothing will come of it... like no other criminal charges and little to nothing released about what was actually found (maybe we just get the idiot’s cherry picked half truths version)? I keep waffling between those last two scenarios and praying it isn’t the latter. It felt like the rumor mill had us soooo close to Felony Friday on so many occasions that I am just not sure what to expect at this point. How about you? I have a lot of anxiety about what will be released from the report. In fact I’ll be shocked if he faces any consequences at all. I think it’s going to be a total bust. Because we’re doomed.
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Post by dewryce on Feb 21, 2019 3:18:07 GMT
There have been rumors for ages about his sexual preference. If he is not heterosexual, that would be my guess. And the fact that this would be considered blackmail material in this day and age truly depresses me. Meh. I think it would have to be something actually heinous or maybe treasonous. Some of the rumors also have to do with age. But I think with his political leanings being shown to be homosexual could be catastrophic for him. Either way, I don’t care. His actions are inexcusable.
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