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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 16:13:23 GMT
Monty should get his facts straight, it wasn't the GOP that prevented the clean extension. linkShe is right. Two comments.. Good luck with that and what happens in the meantime? What we have here is an example of the Democrats being stupid. I don’t have a problem with revamping the Act, but there is a petty Republican as president and another one as Speaker of the House. From the article,, ”Washington (CNN)The latest funding bill passed by Congress on Thursday night does not include an extension to reauthorize the decades-old Violence Against Women Act, despite its expiration on Friday, as Democrats plan to push for an overhaul of the legislation in near future. In the hours leading up to the official filing of the final spending bill early Thursday morning, Democrats and Republicans were at odds over whether to roll a clean extension of the law into the spending bill, with Democrats lobbying to keep it out. Democrats objected to including the clean extension, according to two Democratic aides, saying that they would have more leverage to negotiate a broader re-authorization of VAWA outside the confines of the spending deal. The law was originally enacted in 1994 and provides grants and support to various groups that work on issues relating to sexual assault, domestic violence and prevention, among other things. On Wednesday, Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy voiced the GOP's desire to extend the legislation, saying at a news conference: "We do not want to have VAWA ... expire. We want to extend it out, that will become a question down, hopefully Speaker Pelosi would not want to have VAWA expire, which would be on Friday. That's why we would like to add that and make sure it's in." But Democrats ultimately got their wish -- and now plan to revamp the law.”
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 16:36:21 GMT
Kyle Griffin...
”Trump's Inaugural Committee has now received a second subpoena.
Lawyers for the committee received a civil subpoena from the New Jersey State Attorney General’s office within the last few days, sources familiar with the matter tell NYT.”
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Post by flute4peace on Feb 16, 2019 16:55:36 GMT
Trump's f'ing the GOP in the Senate. He doesn't care. For a narcissist, it's all about themselves. No one else ever enters the equation. What percentage of Republicans are Trump supporters at this point? Does anyone know? Last night CNN said a whopping 89%
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Post by PrettyInPeank on Feb 16, 2019 17:00:30 GMT
What percentage of Republicans are Trump supporters at this point? Does anyone know? Last night CNN said a whopping 89% Hopefully that stat just means people have woken up and left the party for good and identify as something else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 17:03:43 GMT
Ricky Davila...
”After the 9/11 attack, President Bush 43 declared a national emergency and flew to New York City to tour the rubble.
After Predator trump failed at pleasing his cult multiple times, he abused power by declaring a fake national emergency, then flew away to his resort to “golf.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 16, 2019 17:09:22 GMT
Monty should get his facts straight, it wasn't the GOP that prevented the clean extension. linkFrom your link:
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Post by lindas on Feb 16, 2019 17:20:49 GMT
Monty should get his facts straight, it wasn't the GOP that prevented the clean extension. linkFrom your link: I'm sorry, your point is? I know what the link said, I was merely pointing out that the tweet that was quoted was misleading. It was not GOP obstruction that didn't get the bill extended.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 17:41:13 GMT
Monty should get his facts straight, it wasn't the GOP that prevented the clean extension. linkI doubt Monty is referring ONLY to the latest bills but to how the GOP have treated the VAWA since its inception: "Congressman Paulsen rightly says that VAWA has been extended in a bipartisan manner … but fails to acknowledge how many Members opposed it. The last version of the Violence Against Women Act of 2013 was passed 286-138, with just 87 Republicans joining all 199 Democrats (one Democrat did not vote).Turns out that some Republicans think that VAWA is not a federal issue, but instead something that should be handled local governments. In 2013, the Republicans proposed a weak version of VAWA which was rejected … and in irony of ironies, Republicans berated Democrats with stories of victims, and then voted against it. Actually, Republicans had held up the law for more than a year over provisions designed to protect undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and members of the LGBT community. Think things have changed for immigrants, Native Americans and members of the LGBT community since 2013 ? Heck, it was only a few months ago (June 27, 2018) that Congressman Paulsen voted for H. R. 6136 Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2018 which would have made drastic reductions to legal immigration, and eliminate protections for vulnerable children, many of whom are fleeing sexual and domestic violence or human trafficking. There are three bills that the House could vote on … none of which has garnered Congressman Paulsen’s sponsorship. H.R. 6796 the Violence Against Women Extension Act provides a six-month clean extension of the expiring provisions of the Violence Against Women Act of 2013. H.R. 6797 is similar as it would reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act of 2013 through 2019. H.R. 6545 – Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2018 – which reforms and improves the 2013 law. Hmmm … a few Republicans “politicians” (just nine sponsors) have offered two extension bills while 164 Representatives view themselves as “public servants” proposing a five year bill that addresses many areas of concern — domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault, stalking, child abuse, elder abuse, forced marriages, reducing homicides and improving public safety. H.R. 6545 is a serious proposal and deserves debate. Not surprisingly, the Republican-controlled House has chosen to ignore a bill that has 164 sponsors … especially when it contains provisions addressing gun ownership.Heck, the Republican leadership wouldn’t even hold a hearing on the bipartisan H.R.3207 – Zero Tolerance for Domestic Abusers Act (which Congressman Paulsen has FAILED to sponsor.) Making the passage of H.R. 6545 even more difficult is that it authorizes additional funding for these programs … which violates Congressman Paulsen mantra — “Washington must do more with less”." mnpoliticalroundtable.com/2018/09/19/playing-politics-closing-a-successful-term-paulsen-talks-violence-against-women/
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 16, 2019 19:03:45 GMT
Monty should get his facts straight, it wasn't the GOP that prevented the clean extension. linkI doubt Monty is referring ONLY to the latest bills but to how the GOP have treated the VAWA since its inception: "Congressman Paulsen rightly says that VAWA has been extended in a bipartisan manner … but fails to acknowledge how many Members opposed it. The last version of the Violence Against Women Act of 2013 was passed 286-138, with just 87 Republicans joining all 199 Democrats (one Democrat did not vote).Turns out that some Republicans think that VAWA is not a federal issue, but instead something that should be handled local governments. In 2013, the Republicans proposed a weak version of VAWA which was rejected … and in irony of ironies, Republicans berated Democrats with stories of victims, and then voted against it. Actually, Republicans had held up the law for more than a year over provisions designed to protect undocumented immigrants, Native Americans and members of the LGBT community. Think things have changed for immigrants, Native Americans and members of the LGBT community since 2013 ? Heck, it was only a few months ago (June 27, 2018) that Congressman Paulsen voted for H. R. 6136 Border Security and Immigration Reform Act of 2018 which would have made drastic reductions to legal immigration, and eliminate protections for vulnerable children, many of whom are fleeing sexual and domestic violence or human trafficking. There are three bills that the House could vote on … none of which has garnered Congressman Paulsen’s sponsorship. H.R. 6796 the Violence Against Women Extension Act provides a six-month clean extension of the expiring provisions of the Violence Against Women Act of 2013. H.R. 6797 is similar as it would reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act of 2013 through 2019. H.R. 6545 – Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2018 – which reforms and improves the 2013 law. Hmmm … a few Republicans “politicians” (just nine sponsors) have offered two extension bills while 164 Representatives view themselves as “public servants” proposing a five year bill that addresses many areas of concern — domestic violence, dating violence, sexual assault, stalking, child abuse, elder abuse, forced marriages, reducing homicides and improving public safety. H.R. 6545 is a serious proposal and deserves debate. Not surprisingly, the Republican-controlled House has chosen to ignore a bill that has 164 sponsors … especially when it contains provisions addressing gun ownership.Heck, the Republican leadership wouldn’t even hold a hearing on the bipartisan H.R.3207 – Zero Tolerance for Domestic Abusers Act (which Congressman Paulsen has FAILED to sponsor.) Making the passage of H.R. 6545 even more difficult is that it authorizes additional funding for these programs … which violates Congressman Paulsen mantra — “Washington must do more with less”." mnpoliticalroundtable.com/2018/09/19/playing-politics-closing-a-successful-term-paulsen-talks-violence-against-women/AND...... The program is funded through most of 2019 already, so they want it separated from this current funding package (because it is already funded for 2019 so monetary concerns were not an issue on the immediate table) so that votes can be taken to review (and pass) proposed changes some of which are to include: -Native Women, men, same etc partners, LBGTQ, -the prohibition of men/SO’s from owning guns who have been arrested/charged/known/have protection orders against them for domestic violence, —prohibit the sale of firearms to those listed above, —to prevent the sale of firearms to those convicted of stalking. So there are good, no nonsense, practical reasons as to pulling the Violence Against Women Bill out of the current budget package—it should have been stand alone anyway (since it wasn’t a funding issue at this time). But republicans wanted it rammed through now, WITHOUT any additions or changes to even be considered.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 16, 2019 19:52:16 GMT
The program is funded through most of 2019 already, so they want it separated from this current funding package (because it is already funded for 2019 so monetary concerns were not an issue on the immediate table) so that votes can be taken to review (and pass) proposed changes some of which are to include: Thanks for all your research...................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 21:42:49 GMT
We'll then he's in damn good company with the other 535 assholes in congress that are unfit to lead this country. If congress had done its job and fixed our immigration problem years ago instead of denying it existed it would never have come to this. If you all paid as much attention to some of the stupid shit that comes out of a democrats mouth as you do to Trump you'd see how insane our elected officials have become. DUI isn't a crime, anti Semitic remarks, paying people who are unwilling to work, more willing to protect illegals than citizens, I could go on but what's the point. You all have become so blinded to what's happening in Washington because of your hatred of Trump. Now go ahead and point out all the stupid shit from Republicans, in most cases you'll get no argument from me. Like I said, all 535 of them haven't got a clue what the people care about or what's good for our contry all they care about is getting re-elected. Maybe during the next election cycle we should pay more attention to what they're NOT saying instead of listening to the bullshit promises they'll give you to get your vote. Congress needs a major overhaul but the likes of AOC and Ilhan Omar, with their radical agendas, are not the ones we should be looking to lead the country forward. Yo! Not all of us are in favor of All, the majority or most of what AOC and her pals are trying to pass. Just to clear that up. 😉 You aren't in favor of her ideas, but I think AOC is a direct reflection of what the party is becoming. They have changed their position radically on so many things in the last few years. At some point they stopped wanting abortion to be "safe, legal and rare" and started championing that it's okay to use abortion as an alternative to pregnancy prevention. At some point they stopped calling for deportation of criminal illegal immigrants and decided instead that they need sanctuary cities to feel safe from deportation. And started dismissing criminal acts committed by illegal immigrants by touting the fact that more citizens commit crimes than illegal immigrants do. At some point they stopped calling for a border wall and started calling a border wall racist. At some point they abandoned the idea that you counter offensive speech with more speech in favor of using the label "offensive" as a weapon to shut down any speech they don't agree with. At some point they stopped wanting equal opportunity and now demand equal outcome.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 16, 2019 22:59:46 GMT
I feel like I am saying this on a daily basis, but what the ever-loving fuck is going on in the White House? I just cannot believe (even though I am faced daily otherwise) that good Republican people aren't putting their country first. Why - why oh why - does anyone think this man is not a crazed lunatic? Blackmail. Just like they could get it on Donny, they could get it on everyone else of consequence. I want to know more about that trip to Russia all those folks took back over the Fourth of July holiday last year.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2019 1:00:40 GMT
I want to know more about that trip to Russia all those folks took back over the Fourth of July holiday last year. Agreed! I think the leader was Rand Paul, but I could be wrong.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2019 1:55:23 GMT
Pence... ”The time has come for our European partners to stand with us and with the Iranian people - to stand with our allies and friends in the region. The time has come for our European partners to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal.” From What I understand, even without the US, Iran is still honoring the original deal. What an embarrassment. Pence was shocked at the no response!! Oops........ don't know how Merkel got in there.......... but please watch Pence. www.rawstory.com/2019/02/mike-pence-visibly-shook-nobody-claps-applause-lines-disastrous-european-trip/
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2019 2:29:47 GMT
Yo! Not all of us are in favor of All, the majority or most of what AOC and her pals are trying to pass. Just to clear that up. 😉 You aren't in favor of her ideas, but I think AOC is a direct reflection of what the party is becoming. They have changed their position radically on so many things in the last few years. At some point they stopped wanting abortion to be "safe, legal and rare" and started championing that it's okay to use abortion as an alternative to pregnancy prevention. At some point they stopped calling for deportation of criminal illegal immigrants and decided instead that they need sanctuary cities to feel safe from deportation. And started dismissing criminal acts committed by illegal immigrants by touting the fact that more citizens commit crimes than illegal immigrants do. At some point they stopped calling for a border wall and started calling a border wall racist. At some point they abandoned the idea that you counter offensive speech with more speech in favor of using the label "offensive" as a weapon to shut down any speech they don't agree with. At some point they stopped wanting equal opportunity and now demand equal outcome. Once again you’re gaslighting and just wrong. You certainly are not anywhere close to accurate on anything you posted. The radical change was putting an ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, unqualified asshole in as potus. But you continue to do you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 4:20:17 GMT
You aren't in favor of her ideas, but I think AOC is a direct reflection of what the party is becoming. They have changed their position radically on so many things in the last few years. At some point they stopped wanting abortion to be "safe, legal and rare" and started championing that it's okay to use abortion as an alternative to pregnancy prevention. At some point they stopped calling for deportation of criminal illegal immigrants and decided instead that they need sanctuary cities to feel safe from deportation. And started dismissing criminal acts committed by illegal immigrants by touting the fact that more citizens commit crimes than illegal immigrants do. At some point they stopped calling for a border wall and started calling a border wall racist. At some point they abandoned the idea that you counter offensive speech with more speech in favor of using the label "offensive" as a weapon to shut down any speech they don't agree with. At some point they stopped wanting equal opportunity and now demand equal outcome. Once again you’re gaslighting and just wrong. You certainly are not anywhere close to accurate on anything you posted. The radical change was putting an ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, unqualified asshole in as potus. But you continue to do you. I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2019 6:22:14 GMT
Once again you’re gaslighting and just wrong. You certainly are not anywhere close to accurate on anything you posted. The radical change was putting an ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, unqualified asshole in as potus. But you continue to do you. I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion. Oh please. Your hypocritical sanctimonious bullshit cup is overflowing. Me stating that you’re gaslighting and wrong over your inaccurate list is not taking digs or swiping sweetheart.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 14:51:47 GMT
trump ...
”Nothing funny about tired Saturday Night Live on Fake News NBC! Question is, how do the Networks get away with these total Republican hit jobs without retribution? Likewise for many other shows? Very unfair and should be looked into. This is the real Collusion!”
“THE RIGGED AND CORRUPT MEDIA IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!”
I see someone watched SNL last night.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 14:56:56 GMT
Aaron Rupar...
”OMG -- Pence was visibly shook in Poland when he received absolutely no reaction to what was clearly supposed to be an applause line about how "the time has come for our European partners to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal."
”Ivanka Trump is the only person in audience who doesn’t applaud after Angela Merkel points out the absurdity of Trump claiming German cars are a national security threat”
This is the trump administration on the world stage. And it reinforces why he should never have been elected.
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Post by Merge on Feb 17, 2019 14:58:52 GMT
Once again you’re gaslighting and just wrong. You certainly are not anywhere close to accurate on anything you posted. The radical change was putting an ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, unqualified asshole in as potus. But you continue to do you. I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion. Girl, your entire post was swipes and digs. Not a discussion. Pass.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2019 15:03:14 GMT
I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion. Girl, your entire post was swipes and digs. Not a discussion. Pass. Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 15:13:08 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2019 16:14:43 GMT
Trump, White House, GOP....all looking like idiotic fools.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 16:18:19 GMT
Once again you’re gaslighting and just wrong. You certainly are not anywhere close to accurate on anything you posted. The radical change was putting an ignorant, racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, unqualified asshole in as potus. But you continue to do you. I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion. You have no interest in having an honest discussion. The one purpose when you and certain others post on the political threads is not to have a discussion about the issues but to be a shit disturber/and or derail the thread into petty insults. Unfortunately when you and others show up, you find willing partners to aid you in your goal by engaging with you instead of just ignoring you and the others who are less then honest with their reason for posting on political threads. The willing partners in these dishonest discussions makes it tough for those on the other side who make an attempt to have some sort of honest discussion. Instead of actually looking at what they are saying, they automatically respond as they would to your dishonest attempt at a discussion. An example of that was the posts yesterday about the Violence Against Women’s Act. lindas pointed out, with an article, a specific tweet was not quite factual. The responses she received were shades of Gia and how she manipulated and cherrypicked information to make one of her “valid” points. We certainly didn’t like it when she did it, but we are resorting to it when someone challenges what we want to believe. Now here is a guaranteed fact. This post is going to piss off folks on both sides. So be it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 16:21:24 GMT
Face The Nation...
”When asked about military construction projects that could be cut, including a middle school in Kentucky, @lindseygrahamsc says, “I would say it's better for the middle school kids in Kentucky to have a secure border...right now we've got a national emergency on our hands.”
Definition of a dumbass.
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Post by katlady on Feb 17, 2019 16:40:37 GMT
I am starting to think that Ann Coulter’s main reason for attacking Trump is to rally his base for stronger Trump support.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 17, 2019 16:46:36 GMT
I have difficulty understanding his logic. I do realize there of some situations where more votes than a simple majority is needed, but on the wall and many other things.?
And they, the Dems, are trying to thwart this president's...?....? THWART?? Think harder Sen Johnson. How about Merrick Garland.? ONE nominee? ?
Please stay healthy RBG!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:16:06 GMT
In trump’s world, his argument for everything is it’s a threat to national security.
But this latest is a real stretch.
From Reuters..
“European car imports no threat to U.S. national security: VDA”
”Reuters) - Car imports from Europe do not endanger U.S. national security, German car lobby the VDA said on Sunday, echoing comments by Chancellor Angela Merkel a day earlier.
The U.S. Commerce Department is due to deliver recommendations to President Donald Trump by Sunday on whether imported vehicles and parts pose a national security risk and to outline options on how to address the issue, including whether to impose tariffs.
Germany's car industry alone has created more than 113,000 jobs in the United States in recent years with around 300 factories, making them the largest car exporter from the United States, VDA said in a statement.
"All this strengthens the USA and is not a security problem," VDA said, adding that any decision by the U.S. Department of Commerce to classify European auto exports as a national security threat would be "incomprehensible".
Merkel also dismissed such concerns on Saturday.
"We are proud of our cars and so we should be," Merkel said. She acknowledged that many were built in the United States and exported to China.
"If that is viewed as a security threat to the United States, then we are shocked," she told the Munich Security Conference to applause from the audience.“
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Post by lindas on Feb 17, 2019 17:28:39 GMT
Face The Nation... ”When asked about military construction projects that could be cut, including a middle school in Kentucky, @lindseygrahamsc says, “I would say it's better for the middle school kids in Kentucky to have a secure border...right now we've got a national emergency on our hands.” Definition of a dumbass. That quote isn't complete, after secure border he went on to say "we'll get them the school they need". The DoD currently has $21B in unobligated constructions funds going back 5 years. If the $65 million for the middle school at Ft Campbell has already been obligated than the school is going to be built regardless however, since they just opened the new high school this school year and are using the old high school for the middle kids I doubt the DoD is prepared to start another school immediately. I'm not defending Graham's comment, he certainly could have given a better answer. I just get so tired of seeing incomplete and misleading quotes and tweets posted when there's more to the story.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Feb 17, 2019 17:35:32 GMT
I'm not gaslighting, I'm sharing how I see it. If you want to discuss the issues I brought up then go ahead, but swipes and digs are not a discussion. You have no interest in having an honest discussion. The one purpose when you and certain others post on the political threads is not to have a discussion about the issues but to be a shit disturber/and or derail the thread into petty insults. Unfortunately when you and others show up, you find willing partners to aid you in your goal by engaging with you instead of just ignoring you and the others who are less then honest with their reason for posting on political threads. The willing partners in these dishonest discussions makes it tough for those on the other side who make an attempt to have some sort of honest discussion. Instead of actually looking at what they are saying, they automatically respond as they would to your dishonest attempt at a discussion. An example of that was the posts yesterday about the Violence Against Women’s Act. lindas pointed out, with an article, a specific tweet was not quite factual. The responses she received were shades of Gia and how she manipulated and cherrypicked information to make one of her “valid” points. We certainly didn’t like it when she did it, but we are resorting to it when someone challenges what we want to believe. Now here is a guaranteed fact. This post is going to piss off folks on both sides. So be it. You are not correct here. My response was in response to information on the actual bill, and not as you assume in this post of yours. Not once did I negate Lindas post. So don’t be lumping me in with your assumptions. And it seems perfectly a-okay that you engage and respond and even go round and round with everyone without being hand slapped...
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