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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 0:23:18 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Maybe some of you can tell me---after those surgeries, would TYLENOL normally be enough? I just realized maybe my anger is unjustified My sadist GYN tried to send me home after my hyst with nothing but Tylenol. After I asked the nurse to call before discharge, he consented to EIGHT TYLENOL #2 which are OTC in Canada. Too bad I don't live there. OMG. I ended up using DH's extra Tyl 3 he had left over from dental surgery. ETA now that's fucked up about her Effexor. That is definitely something that should not be discontinued without tapering.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 13, 2019 0:47:05 GMT
I told my GP what I was taking and told her I would do a drug test any time she had questions. I told her about THC and CBD. I told her I have hydromorphone but don’t take it-just emergencies. I told her I took a T3 on the weekend after burning my head and ear (see:dumbass) and she can look at the Rx Drugs I have because only she and the psych prescribe them and our government knows everything everyone is prescribed. (I wish she would stop asking about Crestor-we’re good. Really). I can’t hide anything.
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Post by mom26 on Feb 13, 2019 1:04:36 GMT
Other than the inconvenience, it really doesn't bother me. Maybe it will stop some of these people who are abusing prescription meds? I know I'm taking my medications as prescribed so I have nothing to worry about. BUT - it's a shame things like this keep happening. I know it does make things difficult for some people who really do need their prescriptions. Do you have chronic pain for which there is no treatment or cure? DH does. For 53 years he's lived with chronic pain from a childhood illness. He's taken the same med for more than 10 years now. He's never had the dosage increased and jumps through all the hoops every month to get his 'script filled. Yet, he gets more and more hurdles thrown in his path all the time. Those times he has to go a week or more without his meds (which make his pain barely tolerable) is brutal for him. I'm happy for you that you have nothing to worry about. You follow the rules so this doesn't impact you. There are lots and lots of other people who follow the rules too, yet are being horribly impacted by this 'crackdown theater'. Because no. It will not stop people abusing prescription meds as much as it will cause people to turn to street drugs instead. Happened to a family member of mine. Yes, this is a hot button issue for me.
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 1:05:00 GMT
I told my GP what I was taking and told her I would do a drug test any time she had questions. I told her about THC and CBD. I told her I have hydromorphone but don’t take it-just emergencies. I told her I took a T3 on the weekend after burning my head and ear (see:dumbass) and she can look at the Rx Drugs I have because only she and the psych prescribe them and our government knows everything everyone is prescribed. (I wish she would stop asking about Crestor-we’re good. Really). I can’t hide anything. They can check all the pharmacies in the area to make sure you're not filling multiple Rx. I saw they did that, plus made sure I wasn't doctor shopping. My office notes said that. I had to agree to only use a single pharmacy (kind of bullshit, what if one has a better price on something? They all "talk" to each other now so it's not like I'm trying to pull a fast one). When I first started going to this office they entered the wrong Walgreen's and send a little suspicious when I notified them of the error, the first time I got my Ambien from that office. And I didn't have to take a drug test or sign a contract then, four months ago.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Feb 13, 2019 1:19:33 GMT
It honestly seems ridiculous to me. If you aren’t a known abuser why the hoops? Are there that many people abusing drugs in the US? I can see hydromophone and Fentynal but Ambien. That said I can no longer have Ativan but I can have Serax. They assume now all psych patients are drug addicts and no other mental health conditions exist and don’t want to prescribe to people who need stuff. 0.5mg Ativan every 6 months? Really?
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Post by Rhondito on Feb 13, 2019 1:22:26 GMT
Other than the inconvenience, it really doesn't bother me. Maybe it will stop some of these people who are abusing prescription meds? I know I'm taking my medications as prescribed so I have nothing to worry about. BUT - it's a shame things like this keep happening. I know it does make things difficult for some people who really do need their prescriptions. Do you have chronic pain for which there is no treatment or cure? DH does. For 53 years he's lived with chronic pain from a childhood illness. He's taken the same med for more than 10 years now. He's never had the dosage increased and jumps through all the hoops every month to get his 'script filled. Yet, he gets more and more hurdles thrown in his path all the time. Those times he has to go a week or more without his meds (which make his pain barely tolerable) is brutal for him. I'm happy for you that you have nothing to worry about. You follow the rules so this doesn't impact you. There are lots and lots of other people who follow the rules too, yet are being horribly impacted by this 'crackdown theater'. Because no. It will not stop people abusing prescription meds as much as it will cause people to turn to street drugs instead. Happened to a family member of mine. Yes, this is a hot button issue for me. See above... I acknowledged that.
I'm sorry your husband is dealing with all these restrictions. I know it makes a difficult situation even worse.
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Post by mom26 on Feb 13, 2019 1:42:55 GMT
Do you have chronic pain for which there is no treatment or cure? DH does. For 53 years he's lived with chronic pain from a childhood illness. He's taken the same med for more than 10 years now. He's never had the dosage increased and jumps through all the hoops every month to get his 'script filled. Yet, he gets more and more hurdles thrown in his path all the time. Those times he has to go a week or more without his meds (which make his pain barely tolerable) is brutal for him. I'm happy for you that you have nothing to worry about. You follow the rules so this doesn't impact you. There are lots and lots of other people who follow the rules too, yet are being horribly impacted by this 'crackdown theater'. Because no. It will not stop people abusing prescription meds as much as it will cause people to turn to street drugs instead. Happened to a family member of mine. Yes, this is a hot button issue for me. See above... I acknowledged that.
I'm sorry your husband is dealing with all these restrictions. I know it makes a difficult situation even worse.
I know you did. In an afterthought kind of way, it seemed to me. But yes, you did. It was the 'I have nothing to worry about' because you use as prescribed that pressed my button. DH and many of the ladies on this thread should have nothing to worry about, either, for the same reason. Yet, they do. I hope it never happens to you.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Feb 13, 2019 2:42:24 GMT
My local CVS refused to give me more than 14 ambien at a time. They said it was against the law. Not true. I went to several other pharmacies and asked them if it was against the law and they said no. But they wouldn't give me any ambien even though my doctor wrote a separate prescription for it, because the CVS has filled the 14. My doctor was flabbergasted I had so much trouble getting the ambien. What you guys say here is scaring me.
So I went back to my original pharmacy and they give me my 30 per month. And I can get it a few days early which helps me keep a few extra on hand.
If they ban ambien I will die.
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Post by Jili on Feb 13, 2019 3:26:39 GMT
I know nothing about any of this and I'm so sorry that you all have to deal with these restrictions. My sister is a pharmacist and I am going to have to talk to her to find out more. melissa I have to ask-- what if a woman declines to sign consent for a vaginal delivery? What happens then? It's not exactly an elective procedure at that point, and the woman certainly can't go home. I feel like I am missing something!
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Post by melissa on Feb 13, 2019 8:10:34 GMT
melissa I have to ask-- what if a woman declines to sign consent for a vaginal delivery? What happens then? It's not exactly an elective procedure at that point, and the woman certainly can't go home. I feel like I am missing something! I haven't seen it happen yet. I suppose she could ask for a c-section, but that's really the only option. I admit there are times when I get that consent signed after the delivery. Oops. Sorry legal.
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 13, 2019 13:18:30 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Maybe some of you can tell me---after those surgeries, would TYLENOL normally be enough? I just realized maybe my anger is unjustified I can't take prescription pain medicine. Every one of them that has been prescribed has made me sick. I took Aleve when I had my gallbladder removed. It worked fine. I don't know about Tylenol. My son has ADHD. I have to jump through some hoops for that. I have to get a printed prescription from the doctor. It can't be called in. Then the pharmacy checks my ID. That's as far as the hoops have gone at this point.
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Post by danalz on Feb 13, 2019 14:01:00 GMT
What is this world coming to? My sleep clinic closed. I went to the medical supply and asked for a new CPAP mask. The woman gave me a ten minute lecture on how it was federal law I have a prescription. I didn't realize my doc had been sending a new script each year to my old clinic. The federal government regulates breathing at night! Who in their right mind wants to buy a CPAP mask that doesn't need it? This is even crazier....you need a script to get the mask fully assembled but online you can get a kit and put it together yourself and and you don't need a script!
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 13, 2019 14:40:21 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun?
And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow!
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Post by mygigiscraps on Feb 13, 2019 15:07:41 GMT
It's happening on a lot of medications. My teenage daughter has to be drug tested every 3 months to get refills on her ADHD meds. Her doctor explained that even much younger children are being tested because of new policies. Yes, there was also a contract to be signed.
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Post by alexa11 on Feb 13, 2019 15:32:01 GMT
I've heard that about Gabapentin- which I've been taking for years for herniated discs. And it really does help me sleep, which is wonderful. The vet recently put Louis (the dog) on it when his back legs started getting weaker and it's been like a miracle for him. If it becomes controlled, I guess I'll be taking the little fella in to piss in the cup. This is all really becoming ridiculous!!! I'm sorry that we have addicts, but you know the ones who really need these medication shouldn't have to suffer because of it. I could rant and rave on this subject for hours, but I will control myself! And, yes the pharmacist still hears about it when I have to jump through hoops for Sudafed...
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 16:24:17 GMT
I even got tested for MDMA, no clubbing for me if I want to sleep. 🤣🤣🤣
Plus barbiturates, I don't even know where I'd find those since it's not 1984 anymore. They should probably check me for Quaaludes too while they're at it. (Just got the results of my drug screen in my patient portal)
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 13, 2019 16:25:11 GMT
I swear it gets more ridiculous every time I ask for a refill. I had to sign a controlled substance contract and submit to a drug test before I could get my refill. I've been taking this drug as prescribed for about 17-18 years. Nothing else works, this was established years and years ago. Yes, it's all mental, as I can sleep during the day without medication. I think eventually the only drugs anyone will be allowed to take will be Tylenol and meds for diabetes and high blood pressure. Also really expensive brand new name brand drugs for skin conditions, because those make lots of money. Is this a new thing all over? Just my doctor's office? I thought they only did these contracts and drug tests for narcotics. I wonder how much I'll be charged for this drug test. I can't wait to see the bill! Well, at least I passed. Is this from the doctor? That is totally insane.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 13, 2019 16:27:39 GMT
My local CVS refused to give me more than 14 ambien at a time. They said it was against the law. Not true. I went to several other pharmacies and asked them if it was against the law and they said no. But they wouldn't give me any ambien even though my doctor wrote a separate prescription for it, because the CVS has filled the 14. My doctor was flabbergasted I had so much trouble getting the ambien. What you guys say here is scaring me. So I went back to my original pharmacy and they give me my 30 per month. And I can get it a few days early which helps me keep a few extra on hand. If they ban ambien I will die. That's bullshit. I occasionally take Sonata which is also a sleep aid but has a much shorter half life so you can sleep for 3-4 hours and not be groggy. I get a 90 day supply from my mail order. No problems. Are you taking name brand or generic? That does make a difference to many insurance companies.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 13, 2019 16:28:46 GMT
It's happening on a lot of medications. My teenage daughter has to be drug tested every 3 months to get refills on her ADHD meds. Her doctor explained that even much younger children are being tested because of new policies. Yes, there was also a contract to be signed. I take Adderall but I don't have to get prior authorization because I only take 10mg a day. If I took 30mg, I would have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Feb 13, 2019 16:30:24 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Maybe some of you can tell me---after those surgeries, would TYLENOL normally be enough? I just realized maybe my anger is unjustified I can't take prescription pain medicine. Every one of them that has been prescribed has made me sick. I took Aleve when I had my gallbladder removed. It worked fine. I don't know about Tylenol. My son has ADHD. I have to jump through some hoops for that. I have to get a printed prescription from the doctor. It can't be called in. Then the pharmacy checks my ID. That's as far as the hoops have gone at this point. It depends on the doctor. My doctor will do the electronic script. She is the only one in her practice that has the ability. Otherwise I would have to make a trip every 90 days. She also is the only one to do a 90 script. It's wonderful!
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Post by Rhondito on Feb 13, 2019 16:36:21 GMT
I can't take prescription pain medicine. Every one of them that has been prescribed has made me sick. I took Aleve when I had my gallbladder removed. It worked fine. I don't know about Tylenol. My son has ADHD. I have to jump through some hoops for that. I have to get a printed prescription from the doctor. It can't be called in. Then the pharmacy checks my ID. That's as far as the hoops have gone at this point. It depends on the doctor. My doctor will do the electronic script. She is the only one in her practice that has the ability. Otherwise I would have to make a trip every 90 days. She also is the only one to do a 90 script. It's wonderful! My daughter has to get a printed script every month for her Adderall. By law it can't be submitted electronically - that's what the doctor's office and the pharmacy has told us. Which to me seems odd because you would think an electronic prescription would be safer than a paper one?
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Post by jassy on Feb 13, 2019 16:48:07 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun? And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow! Ambien is in the class of "sedative-hypnotics"; it is not something that necessarily makes you fall asleep, rather it decreases brain activity and gives a sense of calm (which helps many fall asleep). There are some people who abuse to treat their own anxiety; I think most people who abuse Ambien do it in combination of other drugs and alcohol.
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Post by mom on Feb 13, 2019 17:50:13 GMT
It's happening on a lot of medications. My teenage daughter has to be drug tested every 3 months to get refills on her ADHD meds. Her doctor explained that even much younger children are being tested because of new policies. Yes, there was also a contract to be signed. That is nuts. My oldest son is on Adderall and he hasn't been drug tested in over a year.
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Post by mom on Feb 13, 2019 17:51:45 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun?
And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow! Didn't Tiger Woods become addicted to Ambien? It seems like I read that he would take one (or more?) and get high, then would have mind blowing sex.
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 18:29:32 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun?
And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow! Didn't Tiger Woods become addicted to Ambien? It seems like I read that he would take one (or more?) and get high, then would have mind blowing sex. Who? What? Where? How? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 18:30:57 GMT
I will admit that if you take it and TRY to stay awake, you can have an interesting reaction. I wouldn't say it's ever led to mind-blowing sex, though.
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Post by fkawitchypea on Feb 13, 2019 18:34:29 GMT
It's ridiculous what law abiding citizens have to go through to get medication they need. However, there is a huge opioid crisis in the US. The medical community and the government have been under a ton of pressure to do something about it. I don't see what contracts and drug tests are going to do for people who are legitimately prescribed their medications. There really has to be another way.
Nice, an afterthought I'm sure
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Post by mom on Feb 13, 2019 19:02:22 GMT
Didn't Tiger Woods become addicted to Ambien? It seems like I read that he would take one (or more?) and get high, then would have mind blowing sex. Who? What? Where? How? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 LOL well now I am going to have to look it up. BRB with details. EDITED: Here ya go. LINKFrom the link: Ambien is a brand name for a drug which, while used to treat chronic insomnia, is said to enhance sexual experience dramatically in the minutes after it is taken.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 19:47:14 GMT
I can relate. I'm LOVED my ambient but was only allowed to be on it for 5 years.
Not new: they "red flag" many meds and you usually have to go to a specialist to sign that contract and get the meds. Most primary doctors don't want to get involved with the audits for red flagged meds. I've been going to a pain management doctor for years now because they red flagged my pain meds. If go thru blood and urine checks every 3 months and you initially sign a contract stating that if they don't see those meds in your system (assuming you're selling them & not using them as prescribed), you're out. If they see any stronger or additional meds in your system, you're out (sometimes people sell their drugs and buy cheap street drugs). They also check your stats and have a 10 minute session with you.
The joke here is that the pain Dr I go to, "doesn't do head pain" and knows nothing about it, so he goes by my previous meds or meds I ask him about. It's a waste of my copay but it's the only way to get those red flagged meds. Red flagged meds are NOT only for opioids. The list keeps expanding.
The drug test costs nothing. I get my bloodwork done at my primary Dr's office, she keeps a copy of the results and forwards them to the specialist. The drug specialist DOES have you do surprise urine tests occasionally, on top of the blood & urine you routinely do.
Hope that answers your questions. My primary is always switching my sleep meds according to what's allowed. I'm on trazodone now and it's great.
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Post by izzyscraps on Feb 13, 2019 19:55:03 GMT
Ambien is a controlled substance, believe it or not! I work in a Psychiatrist's office and we have just started the drug screening also. I thought it was just our state....but maybe I was wrong!
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