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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 19:58:04 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Maybe some of you can tell me---after those surgeries, would TYLENOL normally be enough? I just realized maybe my anger is unjustified From 1974-1990 I was given NOTHING after painful, major eye surgeries! Nothing! They'd say, "take AN aspirin if it hurts "! Yup, tough times!!!! Now after major/painful surgeries they usually give 6 hydrocone pills, but I refuse them because they do nothing for me. I take my own Fioricet.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:01:15 GMT
What is this world coming to? My sleep clinic closed. I went to the medical supply and asked for a new CPAP mask. The woman gave me a ten minute lecture on how it was federal law I have a prescription. I didn't realize my doc had been sending a new script each year to my old clinic. The federal government regulates breathing at night! Who in their right mind wants to buy a CPAP mask that doesn't need it? Yup, that's reality!!! DH can ONLY go thru the medical supply company asociated with his insurance company (Medicare/Humana HMO), and his primary has to sign off on it as though it's a Rx! Things have changed!!!
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 13, 2019 20:05:39 GMT
It depends on the doctor. My doctor will do the electronic script. She is the only one in her practice that has the ability. Otherwise I would have to make a trip every 90 days. She also is the only one to do a 90 script. It's wonderful! My daughter has to get a printed script every month for her Adderall. By law it can't be submitted electronically - that's what the doctor's office and the pharmacy has told us. Which to me seems odd because you would think an electronic prescription would be safer than a paper one? My son just had an appointment with the doctor last week and she said that they were hoping to change the policy so that they can send the prescription electronically. Maybe it depends on state or something?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:09:12 GMT
I hope this doesn't impact my Trazodone. Technically it's an antidepressant but lots of people, including me, use it as a sleep aid. I just picked up a refill 6 days ago and it was fine. I can fall asleep but I can't stay asleep unless I take this, and I have been taking it for years-it has helped so much. This kind of thing burns my britches. I hate this "police state". These decisions should be left between the doctor and the patient. It has gotten so completely out of control. I have a medical marijuana card and for me if they required a drug test of course I'd fail-I have THC in my system because of this and it lasts for a long time in your system. Scrappintoee what you wrote about your friend had me livid! Oh my gosh-as a doctor you do not ever take away an antidepressant cold turkey from a patient. Ever! I had a doctor do that to me years ago when he insisted I was bi polar and I knew I wasn't-that I had clinical depression. He told me to get out of his office and refused to refill my anti-depressant medication too. It was absolutely the worst thing to do to a person suffering with depression to be cut off the meds like that. It took me awhile to find a new doctor, get an appointment, be seen and get a refill. I should have filed paperwork on that doctor against him but I never did. Scrappintoee when your friend feels better suggest she file paperwork against this doctor. Report him because this is so incredibly wrong and dangerous for a patient! I feel so sorry about what she had to go through. Trazodone seems to still be under the radar with Medicare (they're the toughest). My pharmacy even renewed mine a few days early (so I could sync it with my other meds). If they crack down on a certain Rx, I'm ready to fight. I've gotten my Fioricet passed through. They initially said it wasn't in their drug list, but I got a list of previous meds I've tried that weren't effective and had my pain Dr sign off on it and I got it pushed through. Then they wanted to limit the # of pills per month, but I went over it with my pain Dr (they go by severity of pain + your weight), and got it approved. I also got my brand name Maxalt, 10mg, approved, the same way. I have those approval letters in a file because I have to make sure it's renewed every year with Medicare!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:12:32 GMT
My daughter has to get a printed script every month for her Adderall. By law it can't be submitted electronically - that's what the doctor's office and the pharmacy has told us. Which to me seems odd because you would think an electronic prescription would be safer than a paper one? My son just had an appointment with the doctor last week and she said that they were hoping to change the policy so that they can send the prescription electronically. Maybe it depends on state or something? Re: electronic Rxs: It depends on the Rx. It used to be preferred so that you can't hand off your Rx to someone, but now opioids have to be hand delivered with proof of identification to renew a Rx. I usually get 1 Rx + 2 renewals on mine.
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Post by mom26 on Feb 13, 2019 20:15:19 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun?
And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow! Didn't Tiger Woods become addicted to Ambien? It seems like I read that he would take one (or more?) and get high, then would have mind blowing sex. We once stayed in a suite in a Punta Verde hotel that, we were told, was Tiger Woods' reserved suite when he was in town for golfing. I must admit the whole time we were there, I wondered how many women he'd had in that suite and where all they'd "done the deed". It was a bit icky, really.
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 13, 2019 20:16:10 GMT
Zee --your 1984 / quaalude comments were funny! Please tell us allll about your wild times at the clubs after you take your MDA (?) I'm not SURE what that is---ecstasy?) (but on a serious note, I am sorry that you and others are going through this crap!!!).....Also, I cannot BELIEEEVE your sadist GYN only allowed Tylenol after a HYSTERECTOMY !??!!!!! Mystie ....Wow, I am SO sorry you went through that horror with your antidepressants! @bergdorfblonde .....NOTHING for ALL those years, after alllll those painful surgeries !??!!! The vet recently put Louis (the dog) on it when his back legs started getting weaker and it's been like a miracle for him. If it becomes controlled, I guess I'll be taking the little fella in to piss in the cup. alexa11 .....Both of our babies (doggies) take Gabapentin, too. Our elderly guy also takes Tramadol; which I've read isn't a narcotic per se; however, for hoomans, it's a "drug of abuse". I just started ordering some of their other meds from chewy (some are MUCH less expen$ive than the vet's office!) I wasn't surprized that those 2 meds aren't available---even though chewy verifies it with your vet---I wonder if chewy doesn't sell them because they're afraid the dog's hooman will take it? One time after a minor surgery, one of our doggies was ordered a type of pain med (I cannot remember the name). I don't THINK it's a narcotic, but our vet was out of it, so he wrote us an RX to take to a hooman pharmacy. This was BEFORE all of this new regulation, so I was shocked when I had to give them my driver's license, AND, the pharmacy tech asked me a bunch of questions, which made me wonder if they were afraid I'd take it. "Pleeeeeze sell the Tramadol to my Mommy----she's NOT going to take any! "
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:25:50 GMT
scrappintoee That whole story is upsetting, but I'm horrified that the doctor cut off your friend's Effexor. That is one antidepressant you do not want to stop cold turkey. Just missing one dose can fuck you up for a couple days. My idiot GP assured me it was fine for me to just switch from Effexor to Celexa without tapering off. I fell into a depression where I was basically non-functional for more than two months. That was five years ago and although I'm better, I really think it did some permanent damage to me. Rant and hijack over, I'm so sorry for your friend and for everyone who can't get the medication they need because dipshits run rampant. OP: Sorry for responding to so many posts,but I have far too much experience with meds, pharmacies, pain doctors and insurance + Medicare. I ran out of my daily pain meds (opioids/benzos) because took 2 days' more of them throughout my surgical recovery one month. The pharmacy said that by law they couldn't refill it until 30 days had passed. The laws are always changing (nearly monthly now), so I went into withdrawal. I asked what I could do and even though they kept trying to push it through the insurance company blocked it. They told the pharmacy to tell me to go to an ER if I was experiencing "discomfort" from withdrawal!!!!! I was up all night in pain for a week after surgery and had their hydrocone in my drawer but nothing worked like my Fioricet. Dumb rules. Bottom line is that the insurance companies don't care if you go into withdrawal for opioids or antidepressants... It's now up to you to know how many days you have before renewing. This is why I remain on great terms with my whole pharmacy team! They give me my meds early if the laws change for that month and I begin making a stash for emergencies. I don't normally take too many of my pills, but there can be extenuating circumstances. Even if you went to a hospital for any withdrawal, it's still hard to get the meds. They'd only treat your withdrawal symptoms and keep you hydrated. Thank God I don't need more pills than I get now!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:34:07 GMT
I’m flummoxed at how ambien could be abused...wouldn’t you just fall asleep? How is that fun? And consent for a vaginal delivery?! How else does the baby come out? Consent...it’s happening whether you give it or not. Wow! Ambien is in the class of "sedative-hypnotics"; it is not something that necessarily makes you fall asleep, rather it decreases brain activity and gives a sense of calm (which helps many fall asleep). There are some people who abuse to treat their own anxiety; I think most people who abuse Ambien do it in combination of other drugs and alcohol. It's also used as a date rape drug, which is why they're being more careful with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 20:37:31 GMT
I will admit that if you take it and TRY to stay awake, you can have an interesting reaction. I wouldn't say it's ever led to mind-blowing sex, though. Yup, it has with me!! I didn't intend to stay awake (I got a phone call and stayed awake too long), but then became in that sleep/awake state and it definitely led to incredible sex (as far as I can recall!!!)
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 20:39:51 GMT
Ambien is in the class of "sedative-hypnotics"; it is not something that necessarily makes you fall asleep, rather it decreases brain activity and gives a sense of calm (which helps many fall asleep). There are some people who abuse to treat their own anxiety; I think most people who abuse Ambien do it in combination of other drugs and alcohol. It's also used as a date rape drug, which is why they're being more careful with it. I'll be sure not to date-rape anyone! I admit, that's not something I thought about!
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Post by Zee on Feb 13, 2019 20:44:44 GMT
I will admit that if you take it and TRY to stay awake, you can have an interesting reaction. I wouldn't say it's ever led to mind-blowing sex, though. Yup, it has with me!! I didn't intend to stay awake (I got a phone call and stayed awake too long), but then became in that sleep/awake state and it definitely led to incredible sex (as far as I can recall!!!) Lol it doesn't have that effect on me. I won't go into details but for me it's more like drunk sex. Makes the DH a little uncomfortable, like it should be illegal or he should also be impaired, so he prefers that I take it after. I guess I'll have to tell him Tiger Woods recommends it. Maybe I'll slip one into his drink and see what happens. JUST KIDDING IN CASE MY DOCTOR IS READING THIS plus, I'd never share my precious Ambien with anyone. Everyone who knows me knows that's a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 21:14:31 GMT
^ Ha! I'd never share mine when I had it either, so I understand.
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Post by breetheflea on Feb 13, 2019 21:21:20 GMT
It's happening on a lot of medications. My teenage daughter has to be drug tested every 3 months to get refills on her ADHD meds. Her doctor explained that even much younger children are being tested because of new policies. Yes, there was also a contract to be signed. I take Adderall but I don't have to get prior authorization because I only take 10mg a day. If I took 30mg, I would have to jump through a bunch of hoops. My DS (9) was just diagnosed with ADHD and we're starting him on his medicine this weekend (didn't want to start something new and send him to school an hour later...) and when I was talking to his doctor she kept mentioning that we'd have to get a new prescription every month and it would be different with tons of red tape because it's a controlled substance. No mention of drug tests though. He does have to go in in six months, maybe that is why. Ugh. When I first started birth control pills in the late 90s they would only let me get a month at a time, it was fun trying to make sure I went in and got more before I ran out.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 13, 2019 21:38:42 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Because sometimes that happens with gall bladder surgery...they "miss" a stone and it gets stuck. I know many that happened to
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Post by alexa11 on Feb 13, 2019 21:52:24 GMT
scrappintoee I order Louis' Gabapentin from California Pet Pharmacy. He takes 100mg per day and they cost 10 cents each. I was paying over $1 each at vet. I also order his generic Rimadyl from there.
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Post by tincin on Feb 13, 2019 23:50:38 GMT
I feel your pain. I had to be drug tested (for illegal drugs) and sign a contract that I understand opioids are addictive just to get my tramadol for arthritis that I’ve been taking for years.
Now on that I’m injured and have gotten Norco for the pain (the tramadol is discontinued for now) the doc informed me that all these prescriptions will be a “huge red flag” for the insurance company.
I understand and there is an opioid epidemic but that doesn’t mean everyone taking these drugs is abusing them.
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Post by mom on Feb 14, 2019 0:12:25 GMT
I take Adderall but I don't have to get prior authorization because I only take 10mg a day. If I took 30mg, I would have to jump through a bunch of hoops. My DS (9) was just diagnosed with ADHD and we're starting him on his medicine this weekend (didn't want to start something new and send him to school an hour later...) and when I was talking to his doctor she kept mentioning that we'd have to get a new prescription every month and it would be different with tons of red tape because it's a controlled substance. No mention of drug tests though. He does have to go in in six months, maybe that is why. Ugh. When I first started birth control pills in the late 90s they would only let me get a month at a time, it was fun trying to make sure I went in and got more before I ran out. My son is on Adderal and hasn’t hadn’t a drug test after the first 6 months. They tested him on his first six month visit, but nothing after that. We also have to get his prescription every month and then call the pharmacy to make sure they have all the pills he needs. Walmart pharmacy never has enough on hand, and they want to make him wait a week while they restock. We finally found a local pharmacy in my sons college town and the pharmacist always has DS1 medicine available for him without too much hassle.
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Post by bearmom on Feb 14, 2019 0:14:24 GMT
So what drugs are they looking for? You mean in the drug screen? Probably the usual--amphetamines, benzos, opioids, THC, cocaine. I don't even know if there is a quick urine drug screen for Ambien, but I overheard the MA say "it's all negative" when the PA asked for my results and since I took Ambien at 11pm last night and peed at 9am I'm thinking it wasn't tested. So they're just checking just to check, a nice extra cost for me and all the rest of us. Usually they are testing for a positive result. It helps them ID people are selling drugs.
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Post by bearmom on Feb 14, 2019 0:18:04 GMT
Do you know if that is a Federal or State law? So far I’ve managed to not be caught in drug screening for my monthly opioid prescription. @z*G , I’ve been warned my Gabapentin may be headed the way of your Ambien. I know it’s used for a lot of off-label things, I believe the Trigeminal Neuralgia I use it for is off-label. Should be fun times ahead for all of us who need these drugs. And you probably just jinxed Tylenol and insulin. Someone’s working to figure out how to get high right now off Humalog because of you. I hope Gabapetin isn’t messed with, my 2 yr old takes it. Not sure what they would do if it’s a minor. It seems like drug addicts will keep finding different things to use anyway. Then everyone will have to jump through hoops to get what they need for their medical conditions It was made a scheduled medication at the federal level. What will be required is up to your state laws.
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Post by boys5times on Feb 14, 2019 3:44:12 GMT
What sucks is for those with no insurance, the drug screen is $560 out of pocket.
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Post by Zee on Feb 14, 2019 4:13:52 GMT
What sucks is for those with no insurance, the drug screen is $560 out of pocket. I'll be sure to update this thread as soon as I find out what was applied to my deductible. I can't wait.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Feb 14, 2019 9:44:30 GMT
Yup, it has with me!! I didn't intend to stay awake (I got a phone call and stayed awake too long), but then became in that sleep/awake state and it definitely led to incredible sex (as far as I can recall!!!) Lol it doesn't have that effect on me. I won't go into details but for me it's more like drunk sex. Makes the DH a little uncomfortable, like it should be illegal or he should also be impaired, so he prefers that I take it after. I guess I'll have to tell him Tiger Woods recommends it. Maybe I'll slip one into his drink and see what happens. JUST KIDDING IN CASE MY DOCTOR IS READING THIS plus, I'd never share my precious Ambien with anyone. Everyone who knows me knows that's a fact. My ex loved when I was on Ambien. He said I was really into it. But I would have NO recollection of having sex whatsoever. And i I would never have shared it, I got one a night and I needed it. I really miss that med. I do trazodone now, it doesn’t work near as well.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 14, 2019 12:05:06 GMT
re: my friend who I mentioned above just had a gallbladder removal, then two days later, they removed a stone from her common bile duct. ( I wonder why those surgeries weren't done at the same time, but....aside from that...) Maybe some of you can tell me---after those surgeries, would TYLENOL normally be enough? I just realized maybe my anger is unjustified After like day 2 or 3. after my gallbladder removal I was good with just tylenol to control the pain. Honestly the gas pains hurt more than the tiny incisions, and I don’t recall the Percocet helped that at all. That surgery was a cake walk compared to my c-sections.
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Post by pierkiss on Feb 14, 2019 12:08:11 GMT
melissa I have to ask-- what if a woman declines to sign consent for a vaginal delivery? What happens then? It's not exactly an elective procedure at that point, and the woman certainly can't go home. I feel like I am missing something! I haven't seen it happen yet. I suppose she could ask for a c-section, but that's really the only option. I admit there are times when I get that consent signed after the delivery. Oops. Sorry legal. Yes but that comes with 4 pages of consent (if I recall correctly)! 😂. And there’s all kinds of scary things in those forms.
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Post by YooHoot on Feb 14, 2019 12:14:00 GMT
It depends on the doctor. My doctor will do the electronic script. She is the only one in her practice that has the ability. Otherwise I would have to make a trip every 90 days. She also is the only one to do a 90 script. It's wonderful! My daughter has to get a printed script every month for her Adderall. By law it can't be submitted electronically - that's what the doctor's office and the pharmacy has told us. Which to me seems odd because you would think an electronic prescription would be safer than a paper one? I think it's just to prevent RXs from being "called" in. So they make you bring a paper RX. Electronic will hopefully make all of this easier on everyone.
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Post by mellyw on Feb 14, 2019 18:14:12 GMT
I hope Gabapetin isn’t messed with, my 2 yr old takes it. Not sure what they would do if it’s a minor. It seems like drug addicts will keep finding different things to use anyway. Then everyone will have to jump through hoops to get what they need for their medical conditions It was made a scheduled medication at the federal level. What will be required is up to your state laws. Got to love that a medication used as an alternative to opioids is now being mis-used. I really hope my state doesn’t make me jump thru hoops to get gabapentin. I’m on the highest dose right now, though it goes,up and down based on what my condition is doing. I already play the call in to my Doctor, timing it just right from the month before to give them 48-72 hours to get the script ready. Then I call them again (I despise making all these calls to them, feels like such a waste of their time) to see if it’s ready, go pick up the paper copy, take it to the exact same Walgreens every time. And look forward to the “look”, as if staring at me with that condemning look will show any alternative motives (I’m saying that tongue in check, I know much is being asked of Pharmacists too). The thought of going thru that with yet another script, ugh. Just no. Not to mention a 30 day supply with a local pharmacy will cost me more, right now I get it thru mail order in a 90 supply, much cheaper.
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 14, 2019 21:22:21 GMT
I feel your pain. I had to be drug tested (for illegal drugs) and sign a contract that I understand opioids are addictive just to get my tramadol for arthritis that I’ve been taking for years. Now on that I’m injured and have gotten Norco for the pain (the tramadol is discontinued for now) the doc informed me that all these prescriptions will be a “huge red flag” for the insurance company. I understand and there is an opioid epidemic but that doesn’t mean everyone taking these drugs is abusing them. Ughh! I'm so sorry. I have arthritis in my back and knees and take care of a child with low functioning Autism. I've had back surgery and recently found out my outer knee cap is worn. I have to try to NOT bend my knee or it rubs into my femur bone. I'm supposed to keep my leg straight when I sleep. Now I wear a leg brace at night because after 40 years of sleeping in a curled position, it doesn't work to keep it straight. It's a fight every month for one tramadol pill a day. There's days when my son has been a lot and two are necessary. Because of his sleep issues, I have sleep issues. I do not and cannot have a consistent sleep routine, hence my ambien prescription. Thankfully, I don't need it nightly. There are some nights I'll take an ambien because I have no more tramadol. Sleep through the pain. I'm down to one ambien pill.
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Post by refugeepea on Feb 14, 2019 21:25:11 GMT
Also wanted to add it seems the ADHD med laws varies from state to state. For years it was a paper prescription from the doctor's office (over 40 miles away). Now they can call it directly into the pharmacy. You do have to remember to call in at least five days ahead of time.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 14, 2019 21:26:30 GMT
My local CVS refused to give me more than 14 ambien at a time. They said it was against the law. Not true. I went to several other pharmacies and asked them if it was against the law and they said no. But they wouldn't give me any ambien even though my doctor wrote a separate prescription for it, because the CVS has filled the 14. My doctor was flabbergasted I had so much trouble getting the ambien. What you guys say here is scaring me. So I went back to my original pharmacy and they give me my 30 per month. And I can get it a few days early which helps me keep a few extra on hand. If they ban ambien I will die. CVS tells me the same thing! Though it is 15 in 25 days. It isn’t my insurance company, because I have asked to pay out of pocket. That’s when they said it was the “law,” yet I haven’t been able to find this law (which could exist - I just haven’t found it).
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