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Post by *KAS* on Mar 12, 2019 22:03:19 GMT
Colleges pay athletes under the guise of scholarships so they can have a winning team which influences donations given to the school from rick alumni etc. They are provided with tutors etc. Doesn't surprise me at all that people donate to the school as a way of procuring a spot for their kids.Always has been a tit for tat thing right done to the level of private schools for young kids. But yeah on the SAT/ACT testing. I wonder if athletes have to meet those requirements to get admitted into post secondary education or if their athletic prowess gets them exemptions. There are minimum requirements for student athletes test scores. It wouldn't be the same requirement as Joe Blow who is not a scholarship athlete. If they do not meet minimum requirements, you'll sometimes see them head to a military academy for a year or so to get their scores or grades up to be eligible. But most college athletes at D1 schools, especially football, help schools make millions of dollars a year, and dedicate their time and talents to the school in exchange for tuition. But they aren't allowed to work, profit off their jersey sales or anything else, so being 'paid' with a scholarship is the least those talented individuals have earned. And schools have to have other female sports to help meet Title IX requirements, even though some of those sports do not generate as much in revenue.
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Post by refugeepea on Mar 12, 2019 22:14:14 GMT
Whoa there was a post here that dissapeared. Hmm What one? I'm late to reading the thread.
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Post by Zee on Mar 12, 2019 22:18:40 GMT
Have they reported yet as to who paid the $6.5 million to get their kid in, and to which college? I'm curious about that one. If you have 6.5 million to spend, your kid doesn't need the best college money can buy. They can go to a regular school and you can financially help them start their career. I laughed out loud at the idea of paying 6.5 mil to get in anywhere. Lol
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Post by jeremysgirl on Mar 12, 2019 22:31:05 GMT
Have they reported yet as to who paid the $6.5 million to get their kid in, and to which college? I'm curious about that one. If you have 6.5 million to spend, your kid doesn't need the best college money can buy. They can go to a regular school and you can financially help them start their career. I laughed out loud at the idea of paying 6.5 mil to get in anywhere. Lol Well if the kids aren't too bright, it stands to reason the parents aren't either.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 12, 2019 22:32:26 GMT
It really shows just how competitive the college game has become. Yes 20 years ago, being a legacy of Yale was enough to get your B- student in with the expectation that the typical alumni donations would continue and if you wanted to pay big bucks you could donate a building and they would find a spot for your C student. Now - they're turning down 4.0 and high SAT legacies all the time. It may still be a slight bump, but by no means a sure thing. You need to have serious name power for a 1000 SAT student to get into even USC - forget the Ivys. I honestly doubt your last name could be Obama and you could get into USC with a 1000 (this is NOT to make it about politics and I have no doubt the Obama girls test scores are wonderful - I just imagine they have the strongest "celebrity hook" of any potential applicant. I honestly didn't recognize the name of either of those actresses so their star power in helping would be severely curtailed - sure if they had great scores they'd take them over an kid with equal or slightly less test scores as a potential development case - but mediocre scores - no way. It's why the scam had to include both fraudulent test scores and a recruited athlete bump. As most people will tell you the recruited athlete hook for non-helmet sports expects your scores to still be close to the 25th percentile.
The other ridiculous part is just how much that top 25 or 50 "prestige" name now means. For a fraction of the money they spent scamming, they could have just made an above board donation to one of the other 2000+ colleges out there and they would have happily provided an excellent education - or more likely party atmosphere for their little darling.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Mar 12, 2019 22:39:03 GMT
I laughed way too hard at this lol!
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Post by PaperAngel on Mar 12, 2019 22:41:06 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud?
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 12, 2019 22:46:11 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud? Lori Laughlin's husband, designer Mossimo Giannulli, was indicted as well. Not sure why William Macy wasn't charged, even though he was mentioned in the indictment. Turns out that the parents made their payments to Singer's "charitable" organization, thus would have been able to use them as charitable deductions on their income tax returns. I would imagine that if any of them did that this first indictment is just the tip of the iceberg because they will have the IRS coming after them as well.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 12, 2019 22:46:38 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud? i read the part of the affidavit in support of the criminal complaint that pertained to Huffman and Loughlin and i wondered the same thing. from the conversations they listed, i thought Loughlin's husband participated plenty. William Macy, not so much. i think the women were the point persons on this and initiated the bribes and that's probably why they were named.
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Post by papersilly on Mar 12, 2019 22:48:33 GMT
Turns out that the parents made their payments to Singer's "charitable" organization, thus would have been able to use them as charitable deductions on their income tax returns. I would imagine that if any of them did that this first indictment is just the tip of the iceberg because they will have the IRS coming after them as well. can you imagine the balls to bribe someone and then turn around and deduct that payment from your taxes?
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Post by mom on Mar 12, 2019 22:52:20 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud? i read the part of the affidavit in support of the criminal complaint that pertained to Huffman and Loughlin and i wondered the same thing. from the conversations they listed, i thought Loughlin's husband participated plenty. William Macy, not so much. i think the women were the point persons on this and initiated the bribes and that's probably why they were named. Loughlins husband was arrested as well. From CNN: Giannulli was arrested Tuesday morning. Loughlin is expected to surrender at the Central District Court in Los Angeles Tuesday afternoon, according to a law enforcement source.
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Post by questioning on Mar 12, 2019 23:02:23 GMT
They request a no expression pic, but it's not always followed. DS classmate uploaded a silly pic, a duckface with squinty eye, and no one said a thing to her. This is such a disgusting story, Can't wait to see how it evolves. From what I am reading, they didn't even have to upload a pic. They had some guy sit in a hotel room and take the test for the kid. Send handwriting examples, etc. ahead of time. Quoting you, mom because we don't have a thumbs down button. This is so disgusting.
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Post by Judy26 on Mar 12, 2019 23:03:54 GMT
Hallmark just changed the name of their show from When Calls the Heart to Who Called the FBI.
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 12, 2019 23:21:01 GMT
Only one person made it about that, though. Most of us are reasonable enough to know that stuff like this is equally dispersed throughout people with money and/or power. There may be hope yet for this board. I stopped reading and jumped to the end as soon as Trump was dragged into yet another thread. Three things you can count on in life in 2019: Death, taxes, and Trump being mentioned ad nauseum.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 12, 2019 23:26:22 GMT
Colleges pay athletes under the guise of scholarships so they can have a winning team which influences donations given to the school from rick alumni etc. They are provided with tutors etc. Doesn't surprise me at all that people donate to the school as a way of procuring a spot for their kids.Always has been a tit for tat thing right done to the level of private schools for young kids. These do not appear to be donations directly to the schools. They were payments to a middleman, Singer, to influence others on behalf of the parents/students and/or cheating on testing scores!
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Post by quiltedbrain on Mar 12, 2019 23:33:00 GMT
I just proofread an essay for my DD who is a freshman at Barnard--she definitely got in on her own merits cause there's no "donation" money tucked away around these parts. When she thanked me for helping her, I told her it was the least I could do since I wasn't able to bribe her way in to school. We had to wait on pins and needles for that acceptance email like some peon. #modernparenting
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Post by hop2 on Mar 12, 2019 23:36:10 GMT
Colleges pay athletes under the guise of scholarships so they can have a winning team which influences donations given to the school from rick alumni etc. They are provided with tutors etc. Doesn't surprise me at all that people donate to the school as a way of procuring a spot for their kids.Always has been a tit for tat thing right done to the level of private schools for young kids. These do not appear to be donations directly to the schools. They were payments to a middleman, Singer, to influence others on behalf of the parents/students and/or cheating on testing scores! TBH it’s kind of absurd that admission to a college can be bought by a third party. Why should anyone have that kind of influence. That’s money out if thier pockets. I’m sure which ever college the 6.5 million was for will kick themselves for not collecting that ‘donation’ themselves, the old fashioned way. I mean 6.5 mil could fund a research project or 2. Time to plug the loopholes.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 12, 2019 23:53:00 GMT
Only one person made it about that, though. Most of us are reasonable enough to know that stuff like this is equally dispersed throughout people with money and/or power. There may be hope yet for this board. I stopped reading and jumped to the end as soon as Trump was dragged into yet another thread. Three things you can count on in life in 2019: Death, taxes, and Trump being mentioned ad nauseum. You forgot one... The trump apologists—no matter what he does, they’ll always be around to make excuses for him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 0:00:49 GMT
These do not appear to be donations directly to the schools. They were payments to a middleman, Singer, to influence others on behalf of the parents/students and/or cheating on testing scores! Our news is reporting that the payment to Stanford went to the sailing program.
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Post by gloryjoy on Mar 13, 2019 0:13:16 GMT
Hallmark just changed the name of their show from When Calls the Heart to Who Called the FBI. Hmm, my brothers stepdaughter is Lori's on set hairstylist. Off to message her.
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Post by yivit on Mar 13, 2019 0:16:00 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud? i read the part of the affidavit in support of the criminal complaint that pertained to Huffman and Loughlin and i wondered the same thing. from the conversations they listed, i thought Loughlin's husband participated plenty. William Macy, not so much. i think the women were the point persons on this and initiated the bribes and that's probably why they were named. LL's money was So well spent, too. Her daughter is reportedly a 'social media influencer' and said on a video that she didn't care much about school (although she later apologized for that comment, it's what you first say that usually has more truth in it).
I didn't know there was a degree program in social media influencing.
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Post by Jennifer C on Mar 13, 2019 0:17:54 GMT
My oldest is a dual credit ap honor student with a 3.8 gpa 10th grader. Her choice school is UT Austin and Texas A&M (we are a divided family.) She texted me when TMZ broke the news and then came to my room almost in tears cause she's more or less knocking UT off her list. She just realized, I think, that we are not rich and can't grease the wheels. I told her it was something we'd have to wait out and see. (UT is my school.) Jennifer Well, TAMU is a great school...LOL DS2 is going there in the Fall for Engineering. I do wonder how this will effect future applicants? Will UT be easier to get into with this cloud over it? Im guessing probably not. My inlaws have been sending me haha texts today. They are all TAMU, my family UT. It hurts me that I may lose my oldest to TAMU. My DD was talking with a friend whose Mom is a HS counselor in a neighboring city and she said this whole problem will only make things better for entry in the long run. Jennifer
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Post by mom on Mar 13, 2019 0:19:55 GMT
Well, TAMU is a great school...LOL DS2 is going there in the Fall for Engineering. I do wonder how this will effect future applicants? Will UT be easier to get into with this cloud over it? Im guessing probably not. My inlaws have been sending me haha texts today. They are all TAMU, my family UT. It hurts me that I may lose my oldest to TAMU. My DD was talking with a friend whose Mom is a HS counselor in a neighboring city and she said this whole problem will only make things better for entry in the long run. Jennifer Thats funny - my family is TAMU all the way and had DS2 wanted to go to UT, they would have given him the hardest time! Truthfully, the kids will do great at whatever college they are at (I just wouldn't be able to bring myself to wear a UT shirt!)
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Post by leftturnonly on Mar 13, 2019 0:22:23 GMT
You forgot one... The trump apologists—no matter what he does, they’ll always be around to make excuses for him. Nope. They're included in people who can't control their impulse to include Trump in everything. Am I the only one who is sitting here thinking that this would be a typical part for Huffman to act in a movie or show? Proving the old saying that truth is stranger than fiction.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 13, 2019 0:27:50 GMT
Only one person made it about that, though. Most of us are reasonable enough to know that stuff like this is equally dispersed throughout people with money and/or power. There may be hope yet for this board. I stopped reading and jumped to the end as soon as Trump was dragged into yet another thread. Three things you can count on in life in 2019: Death, taxes, and Trump being mentioned ad nauseum. I really thought it had no place in this thread either. This is a much bigger issue than that, IMO and there are more than enough glass houses go around.
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Post by sassyangel on Mar 13, 2019 0:31:53 GMT
You forgot one... The trump apologists—no matter what he does, they’ll always be around to make excuses for him. Nope. They're included in people who can't control their impulse to include Trump in everything. Am I the only one who is sitting here thinking that this would be a typical part for Huffman to act in a movie or show? Proving the old saying that truth is stranger than fiction. lol, you're not. Although I was thinking it was almost like a Lori Loughlin Lifetime movie. A lifetime movie was the last thing I saw her in. I saw on my Buzzfeed earlier a list of "14 Felicity Huffman tweets that are now awkward". Many of them were of her calling William H. Macy her partner in crime.
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Post by **GypsyGirl** on Mar 13, 2019 0:45:46 GMT
lol, you're not. Although I was thinking it was almost like a Lori Loughlin Lifetime movie. A lifetime movie was the last thing I saw her in. I saw on my Buzzfeed earlier a list of "14 Felicity Huffman tweets that are now awkward". Many of them were of her calling William H. Macy her partner in crime. Or this tweet from Lori Loughlin in June 2013: "My kids will love this fun fact! UberFacts: Research shows homework has no academic value and students are usually given too much." Rather appropriate considering her DD Olivia said she really wanted the “experience of game days” and “partying,” before admitting, “I don’t really care about school, as you guys know.” She also “I don’t know how much of school I’m going to attend, but will talk to my deans and everyone,” Olivia said while describing how she will balance out her busy schedule.
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Post by mikewozowski on Mar 13, 2019 0:49:58 GMT
My oldest is a dual credit ap honor student with a 3.8 gpa 10th grader. Her choice school is UT Austin and Texas A&M (we are a divided family.) She texted me when TMZ broke the news and then came to my room almost in tears cause she's more or less knocking UT off her list. She just realized, I think, that we are not rich and can't grease the wheels. I told her it was something we'd have to wait out and see. (UT is my school.) Jennifer doesn't matter what her GPA is it matters what her rank is in her class, but i am sure you know that.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 13, 2019 1:02:21 GMT
Why weren't the equally famous husbands of these actresses also accused, since they also participated & agreed to the fraud? The one (Lori?) is indicted as well - the fashion designer. Macy so far is pleading ignorance.
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Post by mom on Mar 13, 2019 1:10:59 GMT
So, Felicity was arrested at gun point this morning. Apparently she knew it was coming. Lori still hasn't been arrested yet but her husband has.
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