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Post by sabrinae on Mar 26, 2019 16:41:15 GMT
Exactly, why won’t they release the report? I would love to hear a legitimate reason for them withholding it. This is McConnell's reasoning: “It’s not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner,” McConnell said on the Senate floor, according to CNN.
“We’re likely dealing here with potential other prosecutions, classified information, damaging people’s reputation,” McConnell continued. There’s no evidence that the attorney general is not going to produce as much information as possible for all of us, and that’s why I objected. I think it’s a reasonable thing to do.”
I believe it will eventually be released with the proper redactions, which will take time to do, I suppose. Except if you believe Barr’s letter, he’s already thoroughly read the report and shouldn’t need additional time to Complete a review. He claims he’s reviewed it thoroughly enough to conclude that the president didn’t obstruct
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 26, 2019 16:46:38 GMT
Off the top of my head sanctions and kicking out Russian diplomats. He tasked the intelligence agencies with figuring out what was going on and reporting on it. Hard to do anything before the data is available. IIRC, he found out that fall, and they were working in the background but what would you have him do publicly? Had the administration made a huge public show of it the collective GOP’s heads would have exploded and they would claim he was interfering in the election. But I’m sure you knew that. Trump expanded sanctions on Russian companies and apparatchiks, he's expanded and beefed up NATO. He's had a massive increase in U.S. defense spending. Restoring missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic. Returning heavy armored divisions to Germany. Prepositioning armored divisions in the Baltics. Ending arms embargoes on The Ukraine and Georgia that Obama imposed on victims of Russian aggression. Ending the ban of oil exports to try and compete with the Russians when it comes to their oil. Funny you gave no credit for Obama's responsibility in knowing something about it under the 2016 election and not stopping it and no credit to Trump for what he's done since then. You laid it all at the feet of Trump as if Obama wasn't in charge during the interference. Trump was only a candidate at the time and had no power to do anything. Obama had all the power at the significant time that you are acknowledging Trump has now. Funny that you don’t mention that trump KNEW about Russians interfering with the election process and did nothing to stop it because it helped him. Funny that you don’t have issue with Cambridge Antalytica AND being funded by the Mercer’s, trump’s donors and supporters who aided him by using working with the Russians to tank democrats and elevate trump. Funny that you are still limited to your sourcing because it is a FACT that President Obama DID alert the proper channels about the meddling, but of course you would never ever mention that because it doesn’t fit your echo chamber, propaganda gaslighting narrative. “Fact Check: One basic notion that is false is the idea the Obama administration took no action — it did. The question that has been asked many times since the presidential election is why it didn't do more. Private warnings Among other things, top U.S. intelligence officials — including then-CIA Director John Brennan — privately warned their Russian counterparts not to persist with their active measures. Obama himself told Russian President Vladimir Putin not to interfere in the election. These warnings did not work. Publicity Obama administration officials also told reporters on background that Russian intelligence operatives were behind the cyberattacks that led to the release of emails stolen from political figures and institutions. Later, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson formally blamed the Russian government in an official statement. Although it wasn't universally accepted, the active measures campaign became a part of the political campaign itself. Trump and opponent Hillary Clinton traded barbs about the Russian interference during their debates. Trump has gone back and forth about what he accepts and what he doesn't about the nature of the attack. Sometimes he acknowledges it; other times he has cited the denials he has gotten from Putin, saying, "I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it." Trump knew the entire time. He himself has admitted that. It’s a fact that the Russians interfered in the 2016 election it’s been proven over and over. And just yesterday RT allude to helping again in 2020. You suck at fact checking. You need to jump off the Real Clear Politics and Hannity misinformation train. The first blah blah blah paragraph is chock full of crapola and misinformation and lies.
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Post by PLurker on Mar 26, 2019 16:52:09 GMT
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Post by mom26 on Mar 26, 2019 16:53:50 GMT
This is McConnell's reasoning: “It’s not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner,” McConnell said on the Senate floor, according to CNN.
“We’re likely dealing here with potential other prosecutions, classified information, damaging people’s reputation,” McConnell continued. There’s no evidence that the attorney general is not going to produce as much information as possible for all of us, and that’s why I objected. I think it’s a reasonable thing to do.”
I believe it will eventually be released with the proper redactions, which will take time to do, I suppose. Except if you believe Barr’s letter, he’s already thoroughly read the report and shouldn’t need additional time to Complete a review. He claims he’s reviewed it thoroughly enough to conclude that the president didn’t obstruct Thoroughly reading a report in order to compose an overview letter is very different than committee review to identify and redact sensitive information before public release.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 26, 2019 16:53:58 GMT
Well this is a good thing... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved a resolution directing the Justice Department to give Congress all records on a FBI obstruction of justice or counterintelligence probes against President Donald Trump. In a surprising show of bipartisanship days after U.S. Attorney General William Barr informed Congress that he did not find an obstruction case against Trump, the Democratic-led panel voted 22-0 to send the measure to the full House of Representatives for a possible floor vote. Full House approval would give Barr 14 days to comply with the demand for all records and communications concerning FBI investigations of Trump as well any discussions within the Justice Department about secretly recording the president or seeking to replace him by invoking the 25th amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Back to the actual topic of this thread. It’s time for the trolls to go away...and stop the redirecting back to everything is always HRC and President Obama’s fault. Those sheeple trolls couldn’t udder (pun intended) a bad thing about what trump is doing.
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Post by carly1030 on Mar 26, 2019 16:57:16 GMT
Well this is a good thing... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved a resolution directing the Justice Department to give Congress all records on a FBI obstruction of justice or counterintelligence probes against President Donald Trump. In a surprising show of bipartisanship days after U.S. Attorney General William Barr informed Congress that he did not find an obstruction case against Trump, the Democratic-led panel voted 22-0 to send the measure to the full House of Representatives for a possible floor vote. Full House approval would give Barr 14 days to comply with the demand for all records and communications concerning FBI investigations of Trump as well any discussions within the Justice Department about secretly recording the president or seeking to replace him by invoking the 25th amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Back to the actual topic of this thread. It’s time for the trolls to go away...and stop the redirecting back to everything is always HRC and President Obama’s fault. Those sheeple trolls couldn’t udder (pun intended) a bad thing about what trump is doing. Damn you're getting so desperate you're quoting yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 17:59:36 GMT
And now the White House Press Secretary has tweeted this out from her official account: #bebest I think you lost any credible outrage over these kinds of things long ago when your beloved president resorted to mocking Christians and going on late night shows to troll a presidential candidate.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 26, 2019 19:16:37 GMT
Exactly, why won’t they release the report? I would love to hear a legitimate reason for them withholding it. This is McConnell's reasoning: “It’s not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner,” McConnell said on the Senate floor, according to CNN.
“We’re likely dealing here with potential other prosecutions, classified information, damaging people’s reputation,” McConnell continued. There’s no evidence that the attorney general is not going to produce as much information as possible for all of us, and that’s why I objected. I think it’s a reasonable thing to do.”
I believe it will eventually be released with the proper redactions, which will take time to do, I suppose. I hope so. I’m not so much worried about people’s reputations. If you don’t want it known that you did something, don’t do it. I can appreciate national security concerns. But I will admit I do not trust any redactions by Barr, I’d want CIA/FBI to be in charge of that. And I have no faith in Mcconnell not to obstruct the release based on his behavior thus far.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 26, 2019 19:23:45 GMT
This is McConnell's reasoning: “It’s not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner,” McConnell said on the Senate floor, according to CNN.
“We’re likely dealing here with potential other prosecutions, classified information, damaging people’s reputation,” McConnell continued. There’s no evidence that the attorney general is not going to produce as much information as possible for all of us, and that’s why I objected. I think it’s a reasonable thing to do.”
I believe it will eventually be released with the proper redactions, which will take time to do, I suppose. I hope so. I’m not so much worried about people’s reputations. If you don’t want it known that you did something, don’t do it. I can appreciate national security concerns. But I will admit I do not trust any redactions by Barr, I’d want CIA/FBI to be in charge of that. And I have no faith in Mcconnell not to obstruct the release based on his behavior thus far. McConnell has obstructed (admittedly so by himself) many issues that Democrats have brought forth, so I don't trust him based on his history. Barr, not trusting him so much either---the letter he wrote a year ago...now this, plus now his daughter works for the DOJ, his son is now a white house legal advisor to the potus. There is too much nepotism and appearance of shade going on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 19:25:39 GMT
This is McConnell's reasoning: “It’s not unreasonable to give the special counsel and the Justice Department just a little time to complete their review in a professional and responsible manner,” McConnell said on the Senate floor, according to CNN.
“We’re likely dealing here with potential other prosecutions, classified information, damaging people’s reputation,” McConnell continued. There’s no evidence that the attorney general is not going to produce as much information as possible for all of us, and that’s why I objected. I think it’s a reasonable thing to do.”
I believe it will eventually be released with the proper redactions, which will take time to do, I suppose. I hope so. I’m not so much worried about people’s reputations. If you don’t want it known that you did something, don’t do it. I can appreciate national security concerns. But I will admit I do not trust any redactions by Barr, I’d want CIA/FBI to be in charge of that. And I have no faith in Mcconnell not to obstruct the release based on his behavior thus far. What about the people that got pulled into an investigation but did nothing wrong? It bothers me that they had to spend large sums of money to defend themselves and that their reputations would still be considered tarnished and who cares.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 19:30:35 GMT
What about the people that got pulled into an investigation but did nothing wrong? It bothers me that they had to spend large sums of money to defend themselves and that their reputations would still be considered tarnished and who cares. Yes. Like Michael Caputo. They won't even release his testimony.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 26, 2019 20:00:42 GMT
Off the top of my head sanctions and kicking out Russian diplomats. He tasked the intelligence agencies with figuring out what was going on and reporting on it. Hard to do anything before the data is available. IIRC, he found out that fall, and they were working in the background but what would you have him do publicly? Had the administration made a huge public show of it the collective GOP’s heads would have exploded and they would claim he was interfering in the election. But I’m sure you knew that. Trump expanded sanctions on Russian companies and apparatchiks, he's expanded and beefed up NATO. He's had a massive increase in U.S. defense spending. Restoring missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic. Returning heavy armored divisions to Germany. Prepositioning armored divisions in the Baltics. Ending arms embargoes on The Ukraine and Georgia that Obama imposed on victims of Russian aggression. Ending the ban of oil exports to try and compete with the Russians when it comes to their oil. Funny you gave no credit for Obama's responsibility in knowing something about it under the 2016 election and not stopping it and no credit to Trump for what he's done since then. You laid it all at the feet of Trump as if Obama wasn't in charge during the interference. Trump was only a candidate at the time and had no power to do anything. Obama had all the power at the significant time that you are acknowledging Trump has now. You should look into how a lot of what was done was not powered by Trump. Obama found out and didn’t stop it over what, a 3 month window? He tasked an investigation into it to gather the knowledge needed to fight it. Trump has been president for two years, most of that with both houses under his control, what has he done in that time? Besides dismiss it as an issue outright and then begrudgingly acknowledge it. The last thing I saw said that things were not moving forward under his direction. And please do not discount the damage he has done by undermining our intelligence agencies to publicly support dictators.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 26, 2019 23:11:19 GMT
I hope so. I’m not so much worried about people’s reputations. If you don’t want it known that you did something, don’t do it. I can appreciate national security concerns. But I will admit I do not trust any redactions by Barr, I’d want CIA/FBI to be in charge of that. And I have no faith in Mcconnell not to obstruct the release based on his behavior thus far. What about the people that got pulled into an investigation but did nothing wrong? It bothers me that they had to spend large sums of money to defend themselves and that their reputations would still be considered tarnished and who cares. Then the release of the report will vindicate them, won’t it? That’s what I’m saying...from the perspective of the administration and the GOP...what is the downside to releasing the report? Trump...publicly vindicated. People that did nothing wrong...publicly vindicated. People who stated something as a provable fact when it wasn’t...publicly shown to be wrong/vengeful/insert your word of choice here. My point was that I don’t care if people who did something wrong, from either party, have their reputations hurt because the report goes public.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 1:41:48 GMT
I hope so. I’m not so much worried about people’s reputations. If you don’t want it known that you did something, don’t do it. I can appreciate national security concerns. But I will admit I do not trust any redactions by Barr, I’d want CIA/FBI to be in charge of that. And I have no faith in Mcconnell not to obstruct the release based on his behavior thus far. What about the people that got pulled into an investigation but did nothing wrong? It bothers me that they had to spend large sums of money to defend themselves and that their reputations would still be considered tarnished and who cares. There are all kinds of procedures, standards in place to only bring CREDIBLE charges (well, against white middle class and rich people anyway) - and so far the charges and guilty pleas I've seen - no one has done "nothing" wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 1:53:49 GMT
Trump expanded sanctions on Russian companies and apparatchiks, he's expanded and beefed up NATO. He's had a massive increase in U.S. defense spending. Restoring missile defenses to Poland and the Czech Republic. Returning heavy armored divisions to Germany. Prepositioning armored divisions in the Baltics. Ending arms embargoes on The Ukraine and Georgia that Obama imposed on victims of Russian aggression. Ending the ban of oil exports to try and compete with the Russians when it comes to their oil. Funny you gave no credit for Obama's responsibility in knowing something about it under the 2016 election and not stopping it and no credit to Trump for what he's done since then. You laid it all at the feet of Trump as if Obama wasn't in charge during the interference. Trump was only a candidate at the time and had no power to do anything. Obama had all the power at the significant time that you are acknowledging Trump has now. You should look into how a lot of what was done was not powered by Trump. Obama found out and didn’t stop it over what, a 3 month window? He tasked an investigation into it to gather the knowledge needed to fight it. Trump has been president for two years, most of that with both houses under his control, what has he done in that time? Besides dismiss it as an issue outright and then begrudgingly acknowledge it. The last thing I saw said that things were not moving forward under his direction. And please do not discount the damage he has done by undermining our intelligence agencies to publicly support dictators. It was well more than a 3 month window. Obama admitted he knew about it at the beginning of summer, so June. And 9 months before that the FBI had contacted the DNC to let them know they'd been hacked by them. So at least just under a year and a 1/2. Yet according to you, it was so great that Obama "tasked someone to gather knowledge" but the list of all that Trump did doesn't count since "it was not powered by Trump". The bottom line is both are accused of not doing enough, yet Obama gets excuses and allowances for being lacking and Trump is declared to have done nothing even though it got done. That logic is a little lopsided.
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Post by dewryce on Mar 27, 2019 2:15:49 GMT
You should look into how a lot of what was done was not powered by Trump. Obama found out and didn’t stop it over what, a 3 month window? He tasked an investigation into it to gather the knowledge needed to fight it. Trump has been president for two years, most of that with both houses under his control, what has he done in that time? Besides dismiss it as an issue outright and then begrudgingly acknowledge it. The last thing I saw said that things were not moving forward under his direction. And please do not discount the damage he has done by undermining our intelligence agencies to publicly support dictators. It was well more than a 3 month window. Obama admitted he knew about it at the beginning of summer, so June. And 9 months before that the FBI had contacted the DNC to let them know they'd been hacked by them. So at least just under a year and a 1/2. Yet according to you, it was so great that Obama "tasked someone to gather knowledge" but the list of all that Trump did doesn't count since "it was not powered by Trump". The bottom line is both are accused of not doing enough, yet Obama gets excuses and allowances for being lacking and Trump is declared to have done nothing even though it got done. That logic is a little lopsided. The articles I read said it was August. And again, what “Trump” did wasn’t so much Trump but the GOP. He fought against quite a bit of it. And, he is trying to downplay the interference and occasionally say it didn’t happen because it goes against his ‘best election win in history’ narrative. To the detriment of the (unthinking) public’s trust in all of our intelligence communities. You can’t fix a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it exists. You are refusing to see that whenever it was, Obama got the problem at the beginning of it and the hows and details were not known until last fall (for him) and the rest of us January. Knowing something happened doesn’t help stop it from happening again if you don’t know how. Trump got a briefing on it after he was elected but before he took office from what I understand. Yet from the beginning he fought against even acknowledging that it happened.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 27, 2019 3:31:16 GMT
NO trust of BARR!! He caved to do dt's bidding! White House Obamacare reversal made over Cabinet objectionsThe heads of Trump's Justice Department and Health and Human Services Department opposed the unexpected switch in legal tactics. BY ELIANA JOHNSON AND BURGESS EVERETT | 03/26/2019 The Trump administration’s surprising move to invalidate Obamacare on Monday came despite the opposition of two key cabinet secretaries: Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Attorney General Bill Barr.** Barr also opposed the decision, and now finds himself in the uncomfortable position of running the department that leads the new charge against Obamacare. His opposition was based in part on skepticism among conservative lawyers about the wisdom of seeking to overturn the law, officially known as the Affordable Care Act. The Supreme Court in 2012 upheld the constitutionality of Obamacare's individual mandate, which the current lawsuit is once again challenging. The attorney general, who was confirmed only a month ago, was overruled by the White House. ** www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/trump-obamacare-reversal-cabinet-1238359
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 27, 2019 4:41:13 GMT
NO trust of BARR!! He caved to do dt's bidding! White House Obamacare reversal made over Cabinet objectionsThe heads of Trump's Justice Department and Health and Human Services Department opposed the unexpected switch in legal tactics. BY ELIANA JOHNSON AND BURGESS EVERETT | 03/26/2019 The Trump administration’s surprising move to invalidate Obamacare on Monday came despite the opposition of two key cabinet secretaries: Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Attorney General Bill Barr.** Barr also opposed the decision, and now finds himself in the uncomfortable position of running the department that leads the new charge against Obamacare. His opposition was based in part on skepticism among conservative lawyers about the wisdom of seeking to overturn the law, officially known as the Affordable Care Act. The Supreme Court in 2012 upheld the constitutionality of Obamacare's individual mandate, which the current lawsuit is once again challenging. The attorney general, who was confirmed only a month ago, was overruled by the White House. ** www.politico.com/story/2019/03/26/trump-obamacare-reversal-cabinet-1238359Just wait. His base will be so fucked over by the asshole, their heads will explode.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 4:47:12 GMT
Lying about a blowjob or lying (repeatedly) about selling America out to a foreign government in exchange for millions from Trump Tower Moscow. Which scares you more?
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Post by pyccku on Mar 27, 2019 12:25:24 GMT
I have to say, this whole Russian operation has been a smashing success - far behind the wildest dreams of what Putin thought might be accomplished.
By attempting to influence the elections (and likely succeeding, although there's no real way to know that with 100% certainty) they were able to call into question the legitimacy of the executive and legislative branches.
And now that the courts have been packed with Trump people, they've managed to call into question the legitimacy of the judicial branch.
In just 2 short years, we've gone from most people feeling that the government were legitimately elected to represent the people, and that the judiciary was an impartial check on the other two to around half of the population feeling that there are too many questions about the people in power to trust in the system of checks and balances any more.
And that is how you bring down an empire from within, without firing a single shot. Well, unless you count the odd Russians here and there who had accidents and suicides along the way. We did it to the USSR by forcing them into an economic race they could not win. They did it to us by using our own people and system against themselves.
I have to say that the Russians were much more patient than anyone expected and did an excellent job on this one. The old Red Dawn movie made it seem like there would be far more effort into taking over the US and that there would be far more resistance from the patriots with guns than there really was. It turns out you didn't really have to force people into believing the Russian line, you just had to meme them into thinking it - and they would be happy to say "I came up with these thoughts myself, nobody convinced me!"
In the meantime, the operation continues. Russian trolls have been particularly active the past week or two, all pushing the same narrative. But since Trump says they aren't a concern, we will continue to treat it as such.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 27, 2019 12:41:13 GMT
I have to say, this whole Russian operation has been a smashing success - far behind the wildest dreams of what Putin thought might be accomplished. By attempting to influence the elections (and likely succeeding, although there's no real way to know that with 100% certainty) they were able to call into question the legitimacy of the executive and legislative branches. And now that the courts have been packed with Trump people, they've managed to call into question the legitimacy of the judicial branch. In just 2 short years, we've gone from most people feeling that the government were legitimately elected to represent the people, and that the judiciary was an impartial check on the other two to around half of the population feeling that there are too many questions about the people in power to trust in the system of checks and balances any more. And that is how you bring down an empire from within, without firing a single shot. Well, unless you count the odd Russians here and there who had accidents and suicides along the way. We did it to the USSR by forcing them into an economic race they could not win. They did it to us by using our own people and system against themselves. I have to say that the Russians were much more patient than anyone expected and did an excellent job on this one. The old Red Dawn movie made it seem like there would be far more effort into taking over the US and that there would be far more resistance from the patriots with guns than there really was. It turns out you didn't really have to force people into believing the Russian line, you just had to meme them into thinking it - and they would be happy to say "I came up with these thoughts myself, nobody convinced me!" In the meantime, the operation continues. Russian trolls have been particularly active the past week or two, all pushing the same narrative. But since Trump says they aren't a concern, we will continue to treat it as such. I recently came across a book that described this type scenario, that was written before Trumpster and reading it chills you because it’s happening now, and the outcome is not a good one!
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Post by quinlove on Mar 27, 2019 12:42:51 GMT
Exactly, pyccku. Dummie Donnie is no match for Putin. What a scary mess the USA is in because of this creep.
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Post by pyccku on Mar 27, 2019 13:07:18 GMT
I recently came across a book that described this type scenario, that was written before Trumpster and reading it chills you because it’s happening now, and the outcome is not a good one! Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin.Unfortunately, it's got a bit too many words in it for Trump to be interested in reading it.
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Post by PLurker on Mar 27, 2019 17:15:05 GMT
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Mar 27, 2019 18:32:27 GMT
I recently came across a book that described this type scenario, that was written before Trumpster and reading it chills you because it’s happening now, and the outcome is not a good one! Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin.Unfortunately, it's got a bit too many words in it for Trump to be interested in reading it. Thanks going to get to read!!
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Post by Just T on Mar 27, 2019 19:38:40 GMT
I recently came across a book that described this type scenario, that was written before Trumpster and reading it chills you because it’s happening now, and the outcome is not a good one! Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksandr Dugin.Unfortunately, it's got a bit too many words in it for Trump to be interested in reading it. Holy shit! This is chilling:
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Mar 27, 2019 21:12:10 GMT
The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S." In the United States: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics. Let's go back to the 'cold war'... Russia/USSR has been very patient. They infiltrated the US years ago with young couples raising families. Kids raised as normal American kids, our schools, no language issues ..... SPIES!! SPIES!! How many thousands were there? Are some of them still here? Are their grandchildren here now, working against us, for Russia? This is not a story! This is FACT!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 28, 2019 9:03:39 GMT
I wonder what Russia has on him?
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