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Post by ellen on Jul 1, 2019 21:30:16 GMT
My daughter was a second grader when she told me that she thought she was the only Democrat in her Sunday school class (that still cracks me up). When I asked her about it she told me that the teacher told the class that John Kerry wanted to kill babies and there were a few other lovely things thrown in. After I said my initial, "Your Sunday school teacher said what?!" I told her that wasn't true. Later on she pressed for more and wanted to know why she would say something like that. So I told my 8 year old what abortion was and reasons why a woman might have one. I also told her that her dad and I believe that the government should never tell a woman what she should do with her own body.
I wasn't really happy with the teacher and I never said anything to her because I didn't think it would make a difference. I did think it would make a difference to answer my daughter's questions and share my values. Shortly after we did quit attending that church. Years later I overheard my then teen daughter tell a friend that we didn't go to church because her mom was too gay to go to church. I've also heard her say that her mom is too slutty to go to Hobby Lobby. She kids around, but she gets where I am on things.
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Post by jennamama on Jul 1, 2019 21:32:49 GMT
My daughter was a second grader when she told me that she thought she was the only Democrat in her Sunday school class (that still cracks me up). When I asked her about it she told me that the teacher told the class that John Kerry wanted to kill babies and there were a few other lovely things thrown in. After I said my initial, "Your Sunday school teacher said what?!" I told her that wasn't true. Later on she pressed for more and wanted to know why she would say something like that. So I told my 8 year old what abortion was and reasons why a woman might have one. I also told her that her dad and I believe that the government should never tell a woman what she should do with her own body. I wasn't really happy with the teacher and I never said anything to her because I didn't think it would make a difference. I did think it would make a difference to answer my daughter's questions and share my values. Shortly after we did quit attending that church. Years later I overheard my then teen daughter tell a friend that we didn't go to church because her mom was too gay to go to church. I've also heard her say that her mom is too slutty to go to Hobby Lobby. She kids around, but she gets where I am on things. Too slutty for Hobby Lobby!!! I love it!!!   |
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 1, 2019 21:34:20 GMT
I guess I come at this from a different perspective than some. I’m a teacher. Kids at school ask us things and we have to be very circumspect. I would never share my true feelings about Trump or any other political figure with a 12 year old student, and I’d certainly never use inflammatory language to express any political or religious opinion with kids. The same has been true of how I talk with my own kids. I save all my inflammatory language for the board, where presumably we’re all adults. 😚 So true. I had more than a handful of preachers' kids too. It was sometimes a little rough when the dad wanted to talk about how I taught science and what was "true" or made up by scientists. Ack. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 1, 2019 21:37:28 GMT
I'd be more upset with the "baby killing" kinds of rhetoric than with them sharing their political positions. Your kids asked, so I'm guessing they'd heard other comments and were interested in clarification.
You can't shield them, but you can equip them to consider their own beliefs and how they might respond if confronted with similar ugliness in the future.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 1, 2019 21:38:34 GMT
I would ask them questions and find out how they felt about what they learned. Then I'd ask them what they thought about all of it. Then I'd suggest they look a little deeper into the topics that trouble them and through that research encourage them to figure out what they believe for themselves.
12 & 14 is old enough to start learning about all different political views and while you may wish your children to think like you do it may be better to help them develop their own political views as well as the ability to listen to opposing views too. Dialog is key to understanding other people.
The best outcome we can hope for our children is that they develop personal views that they truly believe in so they aren't easily swayed when they hear or are confronted with something new/different.
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Post by Merge on Jul 1, 2019 21:38:34 GMT
My daughter was a second grader when she told me that she thought she was the only Democrat in her Sunday school class (that still cracks me up). When I asked her about it she told me that the teacher told the class that John Kerry wanted to kill babies and there were a few other lovely things thrown in. After I said my initial, "Your Sunday school teacher said what?!" I told her that wasn't true. Later on she pressed for more and wanted to know why she would say something like that. So I told my 8 year old what abortion was and reasons why a woman might have one. I also told her that her dad and I believe that the government should never tell a woman what she should do with her own body. I wasn't really happy with the teacher and I never said anything to her because I didn't think it would make a difference. I did think it would make a difference to answer my daughter's questions and share my values. Shortly after we did quit attending that church. Years later I overheard my then teen daughter tell a friend that we didn't go to church because her mom was too gay to go to church. I've also heard her say that her mom is too slutty to go to Hobby Lobby. She kids around, but she gets where I am on things. May you always be too slutty for Hobby Lobby. |
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Post by flanz on Jul 1, 2019 21:47:04 GMT
Deep breath..... First of all, at 12 and 14 a kiddo should have a basic knowledge of what an abortion is, we discuss it as the termination of a pregnancy in my 7th grade family life class. NOT gory details but basics. Now, this is a great learning experience for your kids. They have gotten to see a differing political view from yours. Perfect opportunity for you to sit down with the kids and talk about what was said and what your views are. Kids may not always agree with their parents political views but it helps if they see both sides and can collect knowledge to make their own decisions. In 4 more years, your 14 year old will be voting and in 6 more years, your 12 year old will be voting. Never too young to talk about the basics of politics and figuring out fact from fiction and scare tactics. Good lesson on how to vet out good information for both parties. Go online with them, search up some of the topics that were discussed- find information on both sides of the event. Well before they were 12 I'd had conversations with my kids regarding the hot topics of the day. AIDS, homosexuality, sexuality in general, racism, etc, were regularly discussed in our house. We also discussed how there were people, namely the Grands, who believed differently than we did and how this was ok. We spoke about treating other people's opinions with respect while not adopting them as our own. As part of homeschooling the kids, I taught them to ask someone who held a different opinion to cite their sources so we could do research on the different view. This is also the time I taught them to evaluate a source for worthiness. My family still laughs at the time my dad got started on a ant about something and my DD, who was about 6 at the time and had been listening to her brother's lessons, piped up "Cite your sources, Papa, cite your sources" Apparently it's really hard to rant when you're laughing as hard as my dad was. It doesn't sound like your folks intended to lecture your kids - your son asked a question and your parents answered it honestly, according to their view. The rest of the conversation just went from there and they probably didn't think about your son's age since he started the original conversation. I might have a conversation with them regarding how detailed they were, if you feel they were too graphic, but I wouldn't go beyond that. Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Take this as a teaching moment and teach him how to respectfully ask questions. Teach him when to respectfully disagree. Teach him how to continue to see good things in people even when you have a different opinion. There is no reason to be sick over this - look at it as now you know an area of knowledge that you need to work on with your kids and go from there. My dad dearly loves to debate the day's topics with my kids and they love it, too. We are about as far apart on the political spectrum as you can get, but they still enjoy the debate. Any time someone throws out a number, every one yells 'Cite your source!' and we all crack up. Marcy Brilliant reply - and great job parenting mlana! |
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Post by hennybutton on Jul 1, 2019 21:51:36 GMT
I would use this as an opportunity to teach them about a lot of things. Political extremism and hyperbole would be my first choices. I would follow that up with a discussion about how to become informed about the issues when there is so much extremism. They need to learn how to think for themselves and how to recognize extremism when they hear it.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jul 1, 2019 21:55:10 GMT
I completely agree that calling Hillary a baby killer is inflammatory. I would urge a bit of caution in determining what exactly was said - particularly as it sounds like this was a first time event - in my experience people who use that type of terminology aren’t usually so restrained.
I’m actually reminded of one of my very early posts on the old board as I was looking for advice as I’d felt I’d botched the abortion explanation with my kids. The topic was introduced when we were watching the 2012 presidential debates and my kids were young elementary. I was explaining the issue as factual and uninflammatory as possible. They were quite frankly horrified. So it’s possible your in-laws didn’t use quite the language you’re hearing - but a 12 year olds interpretation.
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Post by flanz on Jul 1, 2019 21:55:59 GMT
I would use this as an opportunity to teach them about a lot of things. Political extremism and hyperbole would be my first choices. I would follow that up with a discussion about how to become informed about the issues when there is so much extremism. They need to learn how to think for themselves and how to recognize extremism when they hear it. AND to keep their minds open as they learn more and grow! |
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Post by ellen on Jul 1, 2019 22:00:17 GMT
My daughter was a second grader when she told me that she thought she was the only Democrat in her Sunday school class (that still cracks me up). When I asked her about it she told me that the teacher told the class that John Kerry wanted to kill babies and there were a few other lovely things thrown in. After I said my initial, "Your Sunday school teacher said what?!" I told her that wasn't true. Later on she pressed for more and wanted to know why she would say something like that. So I told my 8 year old what abortion was and reasons why a woman might have one. I also told her that her dad and I believe that the government should never tell a woman what she should do with her own body. I wasn't really happy with the teacher and I never said anything to her because I didn't think it would make a difference. I did think it would make a difference to answer my daughter's questions and share my values. Shortly after we did quit attending that church. Years later I overheard my then teen daughter tell a friend that we didn't go to church because her mom was too gay to go to church. I've also heard her say that her mom is too slutty to go to Hobby Lobby. She kids around, but she gets where I am on things. May you always be too slutty for Hobby Lobby. I say it about myself now. There is one opening up about 30 minutes from where I live. People are excited about it and since everyone knows I crochet people ask me if I'm excited to go there. Depending on who I am talking to I either tell them I'm too slutty for Hobby Lobby or that I'll probably just keep buying yarn at the Joann's five minutes from my house. I know my audience. |
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Post by mustlovecats on Jul 1, 2019 22:22:28 GMT
12 and 14 year olds go out in the world and hear political opinions. Including less savory ones and ones you wouldn’t otherwise teach them.
Good time to have a chat about your values.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 22:35:16 GMT
Differing opinions help us think in ways we may not otherwise. If more of the world actually listed to the myriad of different opinions versus immediately shutting down after hearing the first thing we didn't like we would already have time travel locked down and part of our daily public transportation plan to Vega. OK - all kidding aside - mom couldn't have said it any better. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 1, 2019 22:38:27 GMT
Excuse me, but where can I get my “Too Slutty for Hobby Lobby” shirt?
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Post by MsKnit on Jul 1, 2019 22:53:37 GMT
OP, I would be furious over the manner in which they spoke to my children. Loving grandparents would have tempered their viewpoints. Using inflammatory terms was completely unacceptable.
In my world, they would lose the privilege of access to the grandchildren without parental presence.
Grandparents should be more careful of their words because they care for the grandchildren. Completely different situation than hearing it elsewhere.
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Post by Merge on Jul 1, 2019 22:59:46 GMT
Excuse me, but where can I get my “Too Slutty for Hobby Lobby” shirt? I was just wondering that myself. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 1, 2019 23:22:11 GMT
The question I have is would the grandparents have used the same language in front of the OP or not? If not, then they would lose some one-on-one access. Sorry, but getting my kids alone wouldn't be an opportunity to fill their heads with hateful shit without me there.
If they'd have said the same things with me in the room, then I would handle it differently.
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Post by jennamama on Jul 2, 2019 0:04:18 GMT
The question I have is would the grandparents have used the same language in front of the OP or not? If not, then they would lose some one-on-one access. Sorry, but getting my kids alone wouldn't be an opportunity to fill their heads with hateful shit without me there. If they'd have said the same things with me in the room, then I would handle it differently. No, they absolutely wouldn't have said any of this if I was sitting there. Which is a huge part of the issue. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 2, 2019 0:07:11 GMT
The question I have is would the grandparents have used the same language in front of the OP or not? If not, then they would lose some one-on-one access. Sorry, but getting my kids alone wouldn't be an opportunity to fill their heads with hateful shit without me there. If they'd have said the same things with me in the room, then I would handle it differently. No, they absolutely wouldn't have said any of this if I was sitting there. Which is a huge part of the issue. Yeah, that's SUPER messed up. I don't blame you for feeling angry and frustrated. It's one thing to have an honest dialog about beliefs. It's another to spout off saying shitty things you'd never say in front of the kids' parents. Not okay. At all. |
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Post by jennamama on Jul 2, 2019 0:13:26 GMT
Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Take Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Yep- TOTALLY on ME mlana - for thinking I could send my kids with their family for a fun weekend at the lake and NOT be exposed to how women don't love their babies so they kill them, and people should stay in their country and accept their fate because they "didn't work hard enough". Especially when NONE of them have ever talked this way in front of me. How the fuck do you suggest I could have prepared him? Tell me since you are obviously way more enlightened as a parent. This goes way beyond "differing views". I'm not sure if you even read my post. My kids are well aware of conservative and liberal political views. |
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Post by SockMonkey on Jul 2, 2019 0:24:41 GMT
Deep breath..... First of all, at 12 and 14 a kiddo should have a basic knowledge of what an abortion is, we discuss it as the termination of a pregnancy in my 7th grade family life class. NOT gory details but basics. Now, this is a great learning experience for your kids. They have gotten to see a differing political view from yours. Perfect opportunity for you to sit down with the kids and talk about what was said and what your views are. Kids may not always agree with their parents political views but it helps if they see both sides and can collect knowledge to make their own decisions. In 4 more years, your 14 year old will be voting and in 6 more years, your 12 year old will be voting. Never too young to talk about the basics of politics and figuring out fact from fiction and scare tactics. Good lesson on how to vet out good information for both parties. Go online with them, search up some of the topics that were discussed- find information on both sides of the event. Well before they were 12 I'd had conversations with my kids regarding the hot topics of the day. AIDS, homosexuality, sexuality in general, racism, etc, were regularly discussed in our house. We also discussed how there were people, namely the Grands, who believed differently than we did and how this was ok. We spoke about treating other people's opinions with respect while not adopting them as our own. As part of homeschooling the kids, I taught them to ask someone who held a different opinion to cite their sources so we could do research on the different view. This is also the time I taught them to evaluate a source for worthiness. My family still laughs at the time my dad got started on a ant about something and my DD, who was about 6 at the time and had been listening to her brother's lessons, piped up "Cite your sources, Papa, cite your sources" Apparently it's really hard to rant when you're laughing as hard as my dad was. It doesn't sound like your folks intended to lecture your kids - your son asked a question and your parents answered it honestly, according to their view. The rest of the conversation just went from there and they probably didn't think about your son's age since he started the original conversation. I might have a conversation with them regarding how detailed they were, if you feel they were too graphic, but I wouldn't go beyond that. Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Take this as a teaching moment and teach him how to respectfully ask questions. Teach him when to respectfully disagree. Teach him how to continue to see good things in people even when you have a different opinion. There is no reason to be sick over this - look at it as now you know an area of knowledge that you need to work on with your kids and go from there. My dad dearly loves to debate the day's topics with my kids and they love it, too. We are about as far apart on the political spectrum as you can get, but they still enjoy the debate. Any time someone throws out a number, every one yells 'Cite your source!' and we all crack up. Marcy Based on what the OP has shared about HOW her parents spoke about their beliefs, it seems that you are being a bit unfair here. It's not that they talked about their conservative beliefs, it's HOW they were addressed (example: talking about "baby killing" vs. saying they're pro-life). I asked for some clarification on this and now that I've gotten it, I can totally see why the OP is upset and angry. There is no call for talking to kids like this. While kids should be able to process differing opinions, hearing really rough rhetoric from grandparents is a pretty shitty position to put them in, and I'd be hesitant to allow them unsupervised time moving forward, especially knowing that they wouldn't speak like that if I were in the room. Shady as fuck. |
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Post by darkangel090260 on Jul 2, 2019 0:39:01 GMT
Now is the time to sit down and talk. Give him true information on each topic. give him a chance to ask questions and express his feeling and thought. Grate time do teach him politics and how it all works. Summertime no school use it to learn about this.
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Post by Merge on Jul 2, 2019 0:49:38 GMT
Well before they were 12 I'd had conversations with my kids regarding the hot topics of the day. AIDS, homosexuality, sexuality in general, racism, etc, were regularly discussed in our house. We also discussed how there were people, namely the Grands, who believed differently than we did and how this was ok. We spoke about treating other people's opinions with respect while not adopting them as our own. As part of homeschooling the kids, I taught them to ask someone who held a different opinion to cite their sources so we could do research on the different view. This is also the time I taught them to evaluate a source for worthiness. My family still laughs at the time my dad got started on a ant about something and my DD, who was about 6 at the time and had been listening to her brother's lessons, piped up "Cite your sources, Papa, cite your sources" Apparently it's really hard to rant when you're laughing as hard as my dad was. It doesn't sound like your folks intended to lecture your kids - your son asked a question and your parents answered it honestly, according to their view. The rest of the conversation just went from there and they probably didn't think about your son's age since he started the original conversation. I might have a conversation with them regarding how detailed they were, if you feel they were too graphic, but I wouldn't go beyond that. Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Take this as a teaching moment and teach him how to respectfully ask questions. Teach him when to respectfully disagree. Teach him how to continue to see good things in people even when you have a different opinion. There is no reason to be sick over this - look at it as now you know an area of knowledge that you need to work on with your kids and go from there. My dad dearly loves to debate the day's topics with my kids and they love it, too. We are about as far apart on the political spectrum as you can get, but they still enjoy the debate. Any time someone throws out a number, every one yells 'Cite your source!' and we all crack up. Marcy Based on what the OP has shared about HOW her parents spoke about their beliefs, it seems that you are being a bit unfair here. It's not that they talked about their conservative beliefs, it's HOW they were addressed (example: talking about "baby killing" vs. saying they're pro-life). I asked for some clarification on this and now that I've gotten it, I can totally see why the OP is upset and angry. There is no call for talking to kids like this. While kids should be able to process differing opinions, hearing really rough rhetoric from grandparents is a pretty shitty position to put them in, and I'd be hesitant to allow them unsupervised time moving forward, especially knowing that they wouldn't speak like that if I were in the room. Shady as fuck. This all goes to the prevalent attitude that far-right Trumpism is just another, normal political view that we have to accept. And it's not. It's just not. I wonder if the people defending the grandparents here would have been so calm if they had come out with some straight up KKK racist stuff. Sorry if that goes too far down the road of "political debate." I just can't honestly believe that so many people here think that a twelve year old should be expected/prepared to take the "baby killing" rhetoric in stride as just another political opinion. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 2, 2019 1:08:37 GMT
I think your in-laws crossed a line. I think abortion, like sex, is part of a conversation between children and their parents. For me, it would have nothing to do with a fear of opposing viewpoints; rather, it isn't anyone's damn place to discuss those issues with my children. This exactly. My child would not be camping or anything else with them for a very long time. I would explain to my kids that they were lying either intentionally or through ignorance and then have a discussion about it. This is much more than a difference of political opinion. The in-laws would be told in no uncertain terms why they would not be seeing their grandkids unsupervised by me. Of course I would just cut them all lose as There is no way I would spend time around people like that. Life is too short. |
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jul 2, 2019 1:13:38 GMT
“Too slutty for Hobby Lobby” should be a new title on here  |
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 2, 2019 1:19:36 GMT
I would just discuss it with my kids what I believe and what the facts are. I would also tell them they should be informing themselves and point them to a reliable news source.
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Post by femalebusiness on Jul 2, 2019 1:19:52 GMT
Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Take Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Yep- TOTALLY on ME mlana - for thinking I could send my kids with their family for a fun weekend at the lake and NOT be exposed to how women don't love their babies so they kill them, and people should stay in their country and accept their fate because they "didn't work hard enough". Especially when NONE of them have ever talked this way in front of me. How the fuck do you suggest I could have prepared him? Tell me since you are obviously way more enlightened as a parent. This goes way beyond "differing views". I'm not sure if you even read my post. My kids are well aware of conservative and liberal political views. Absolutely NOT in any way your fault. Anyone who suggests that is as out of line as your in-laws. You don't have to tolerate this in any way shape or form. ETA They are the ones who should be apologizing over and over for what they said and kissing your ass to get back in your good graces. |
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Post by jenjie on Jul 2, 2019 1:41:22 GMT
Yes, kids that age can certainly hear differing viewpoints, but it’s up to the adults in their lives to keep inflammatory language to a minimum, IMO. If grandparents had said they disagreed with Hillary’s views on abortion rights, that would be expressing a different viewpoint. “Killing babies” is unnecessarily inflammatory and designed to play on a young person’s emotions. It’s manipulative IMO. Imagine if my 12 year old niece asked my views on religion. I’m sure my sister would have no issue with me stating that I don’t believe in god as they do, but she might take exception if I followed that statement up with, “and I think religion is followed only by weak-minded fools.” It’s unnecessary, and not an appropriate statement to make between family members. Agreed 100% |
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Post by mlana on Jul 3, 2019 8:43:49 GMT
Honestly, I feel like this is on you. You already knew about their differing views, so why had you not thought to have some conversations with your son about how to handle this? He obviously knew their views differed from your and he was comfortable asking them why. How do you think they should have answered? Do you think they should have told a 12 yo to 'ask his mama'? Yep- TOTALLY on ME mlana - for thinking I could send my kids with their family for a fun weekend at the lake and NOT be exposed to how women don't love their babies so they kill them, and people should stay in their country and accept their fate because they "didn't work hard enough". Especially when NONE of them have ever talked this way in front of me. How the fuck do you suggest I could have prepared him? Tell me since you are obviously way more enlightened as a parent. This goes way beyond "differing views". I'm not sure if you even read my post. My kids are well aware of conservative and liberal political views. I read what you posted, did you read what I wrote? You knew your in-laws had differing views on politics, but you had not sat down with your son and explained that if he ASKED someone about politics, he might get some very inflammatory answers. You might have explained that there is a REASON why you and your in-laws don’t discuss politics. You might also have discussed abortion with him as part of making him aware of the world around him. Did you honestly not know that your in-laws had such strong opinions on their beliefs? Your son is 12 and he ASKED. It sounds like your in-laws answered his question with their beliefs, uncensored by any thoughts of his age. He asked why they thought what they thought and they gave him their version of the truth with no quarter given for his age. Should you be pissed with them? Well, yeah, some. They could have said it more delicately and more age appropriately. But they had no reason not to answer his question with an explanation of their views. Why is this on you and what could you have done to prevent it, in my enlightened view? You could have sat down with him throughout the years and made him aware that some people see things very differently than your family does and, because some subjects are really sensitive to others, he might get a really unpleasant response when he asks someone about their political or religious views. You should have seen to it that he was already aware of the hot issues being discussed in the media so he would understand why some people get so fired up when they discuss these subjects. I get that you don’t think you should have had to worry about grandparents going on rants when their grandchild asks a question, and it does sound like this is out of the norm for them. Yes, their answers were much more blunt than they should have been. That’s on them for sure. I do think a conversation with them is in order. Would I go in with guns blazing? No. Most would see that as an attack on their beliefs rather than their delivery system and then they won’t hear the message you are trying to get across. Marcy |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 8:53:11 GMT
Yes, kids that age can certainly hear differing viewpoints, but it’s up to the adults in their lives to keep inflammatory language to a minimum, IMO. That means restricting your child from CNN, MSNBC, NBC, etc. I bet that's not what you intended though. Booooooooo! Not one person turned this “political” until your comment. Seriously, WTF? Why do that? Your comment just hit me sideways. Here the OP is already struggling with crap and you have to bring it to this thread. Boo on you. |
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