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Post by Baseballmom23 on Jun 1, 2020 18:25:13 GMT
Ahhh...and now she is trying to put the blame on J......but J. says he suggested a 3/4/3 schedule. But crazy is trying to tell me that J. and her decided to go with the 3/3/2 schedule because "we don't have many students".... They are having a small class of summer camp at the school that J. will be there for. J. suggested the 3/4/3 schedule based on when he would need help with the phone and doors while he was helping with the campers. The things I will be in the office doing (other than helping with phone and doors) does not have anything to do with the campers so I don't see where she pulled that crap about the small number of students having anything to do with how many hours I needed to be there....and then trying to put the blame on J. for cutting me back 2 hours! I would tell her that I will be speaking with J to explain why the school needs me there 10 hours per week. And see how she would backtrack on that
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 19:12:36 GMT
She gets away with this stuff because you guys let her. “I’m sorry, I need a consistent number of hours on a consistent schedule and closer to the X hours I was hired for.” “I will communicate directly with the parents on how to notify me when they’re here for the medications and I’ll tell them where to go. This doesn’t need another person involved. If you’d like to coordinate it, here are the medications.” “That doesn’t work for me.” If enough of you actually stood up to her, you might have a more manageable workplace. These statements would work if she were a normal, reasonable person. You can't reason with a crazy person.
She and her sister own the school. Their opinion is that if we don't like it we can leave. I am not in a position to leave right now....I need the job.
I need just one more year in the looney bin and then my dd will be out of college. The money I won't have to then spend on rent, school, insurance, ect will free me up to be able to quit.
I know its a crappy job with a crazy leader, but right now its necessary.
She will never change....the admin staff do stand up to her all...the... time. She still does what she wants or agrees and then ends up doing what she wanted in the end anyways. Its why everyone keeps records of what she says....although it does no good in the end.
They had the recorded zoom meeting where she made decisions about teacher inservice day and she still changed everything. She is just crazy and you can't reason with crazy.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 1, 2020 19:14:46 GMT
She gets away with this stuff because you guys let her. “I’m sorry, I need a consistent number of hours on a consistent schedule and closer to the X hours I was hired for.” “I will communicate directly with the parents on how to notify me when they’re here for the medications and I’ll tell them where to go. This doesn’t need another person involved. If you’d like to coordinate it, here are the medications.” “That doesn’t work for me.” If enough of you actually stood up to her, you might have a more manageable workplace. Exactly. She does this kind of nonsense because no one challenges her or makes her responsible for the decisions she makes. If she is the one taking cash she needs to be the one handling the accounts. At our school we have one person that you can hand cash or checks, she is the one that handles the accounts. If someone is paying by card there are two other people that can do that, but only because when a card payment is made an alert goes immediately to the account person. I would be extremely worried that she would accuse you of theft with all the missing cash. I can’t imagine working 8 hours a week is worth the nonsense you put up with.
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Post by Skellinton on Jun 1, 2020 19:17:04 GMT
I see you say you need the job, seriously she must pay you a boat load per hour if you are only working 8 hours a week and getting paid enough that you aren’t willing to work somewhere else. You could easily find a job that pays less and work longer, your mental health must be worth something? Do you have small kids you need to watch and that is why this works for you?
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 19:21:54 GMT
Ahhh...and now she is trying to put the blame on J......but J. says he suggested a 3/4/3 schedule. But crazy is trying to tell me that J. and her decided to go with the 3/3/2 schedule because "we don't have many students".... They are having a small class of summer camp at the school that J. will be there for. J. suggested the 3/4/3 schedule based on when he would need help with the phone and doors while he was helping with the campers. The things I will be in the office doing (other than helping with phone and doors) does not have anything to do with the campers so I don't see where she pulled that crap about the small number of students having anything to do with how many hours I needed to be there....and then trying to put the blame on J. for cutting me back 2 hours! I would tell her that I will be speaking with J to explain why the school needs me there 10 hours per week. And see how she would backtrack on that I DID....I told her I was confused because Josh gave me these hours..3/4/3.... Her reply was simply: "Lets go with 3/3/2" ....end of reply.
So I'll just be passive aggressive and not get all of my work done and then show her why I need more hours and J. will tell her I need more hours, and D. will tell her I need more hours and I'll end up with more hours. I'll play her silly game.... When she realizes that I need the extra hours to spend time collecting tuition payments that were not made today she will change her tune real quick!...and collecting past due tuition will be the last priority on my list of things to do. Yup....she'll end up giving me the extra hours then! lol
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 19:42:12 GMT
I see you say you need the job, seriously she must pay you a boat load per hour if you are only working 8 hours a week and getting paid enough that you aren’t willing to work somewhere else. You could easily find a job that pays less and work longer, your mental health must be worth something? Do you have small kids you need to watch and that is why this works for you? No...not small kids...lol The main source of my income Aug to May is the international student hosting that I do during the school year. This job allows me the flexibility of dropping them off and picking them up from their school that I need.
I have checked into positions at other schools, but the hours I would be working (including longer drive times) would force me to have to pay after school fees for three students and that would eat up a big chunk of a paycheck from my "day" job. My international students go to a private school...there are fees to pay if they are not picked up by a certain time. I also have to drop them off at a certain time in the mornings. It would also be a problem dropping my students off and getting to another job on time in the mornings.
This job allows me to drop them off and pick them up at the times I need to. (I work 9:00 to 3:30)
Other transportation options for my students is not an option. There are not school buses for private school, and there are strict restrictions on who is allowed to drive the students. Only myself, my dd, or another host parent or school personnel are allowed to drive them places.
I work the limited summer hours in order to make a little more money and still have my job when school resumes in August. The type of work I do continues to be generated over summer, even though crazy does not realize it. (even though she has been told...she thinks everything can wait till August for some reason) I deal with transcripts,recording grades, record keeping and accounting for tuition payments among other things. Crazy thinks that since school is not in session that the things I do just stop needing to be done.....which is not true. After being told this, she deams that 8hrs a week should be sufficient time to handle the things that continue to be needed to be done. Nothing to base that on...just her opinion.
Yes, I could look for other summer employment....but options for a 62 year old around here are limited....especially now...and who wants to hire for only 2 months?
So, there is more to it than not being "willing" to work someplace else. I just haven't yet found anything that "fits" the schedule I need to maintain to accommodate the main source of my income. I just cannot quite make it on the hosting salary alone until dd gets out of college next May. (and yes, dd works as able during school time and summer to help with her expenses. She had an awesome summer internship lined up that got cancelled due to COVID restrictions ....damn it!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 19:56:21 GMT
You might try a temp agency. You can pick your hours.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 20:01:35 GMT
That is certainly a possibility....
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Post by drummergirl65 on Jun 1, 2020 20:07:56 GMT
I understand the hours thing but there is no way I would leave her handling cash etc with my name on the line. No job is worth that. She could be embezzling and point the finger at you. No way. As you say, she needs you so take a stand at least in this case. If she balks just tell her you want everything above board for everyone's sake.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 1, 2020 20:08:06 GMT
see if you can get a job at the private school the international kids go to.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 1, 2020 20:09:12 GMT
Unless my job were within a mile of my house, no way would I come in to work for only 2 or 3 hours. It would not be worth the cost of gas and my time.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 1, 2020 20:20:22 GMT
Sandy, you have explained your position time and again in this thread. I totally understand the position you’re in, and admire your patience and humor dealing with it. I also admire your resourcefulness in getting the hosting gig to give you an income over the summer. As well as your dedication to supporting your DD through college, even after your divorce made things so hard for you. And I’m sorry that a job that had been a good one for you with the previous boss has become such a frustration.
I’m also glad you say that everyone is documenting EVERYTHING, because her cavalier attitude to handling cash could backfire, and you know she’d blame everyone but herself.
Your DD will be graduated before you know it, and you will be in a much better position. As another 62 YO, I agree there are not a lot of positions out there for us.
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 20:24:38 GMT
Unless my job were within a mile of my house, no way would I come in to work for only 2 or 3 hours. It would not be worth the cost of gas and my time. Yah....its like at the edge of my neighborhood. Walking distance even. The one time I did walk to work about three people stopped to see if I needed a ride or help! lol...so I don't walk to work any more. Too many people think I'm just some old person who needs help.
I've gotten 13 emails already today that I will need to deal with tomorrow. Those three hours will be gone so fast with just that. It won't leave much time left for getting the final grades posted so that the final transcripts can be mailed out for the seniors that requested them. Oh well....
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 20:36:46 GMT
see if you can get a job at the private school the international kids go to. I do have an application in for a position in the guidance counselor's office (secretary type position). It didn't officially open up last year though. Hoping it will this next year... It was low priority on the active job openings list apparently (there were other positions they needed to fill first before this one would officially open up)
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Post by houstonsandy on Jun 1, 2020 23:16:58 GMT
lololololol......I just checked and there is nearly $135,000.00 of June tuition payments that did not go through today. And I won't have any time this week to handle those past due accounts since I'll be 8 hrs worth of busy with grades and transcripts alone! oooopsie!
Guess who is going to be offered more hours after crazy notices that!
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Post by houstonsandy on Jul 27, 2020 23:08:37 GMT
Welp....I may have been a little snippy today and I ruffled some feathers~ I haven't been "in the office" since the end of June when I got sick so I have been able to work from home and avoid crazy (and her sister). But this morning I got a text from the sister (who is the accountant) saying that she quickly needed to know how to access the tuition spreadsheet I have always kept in the past to see who had not yet paid June and July's tuition payments.
I texted back and told her that the information she needed could now be accessed on our new billing system and gave her the instructions how to do so. We only have four who have not made tuition payments in June and July. One is withdrawing/one has not responded to any forms of communications and will be auto withdrawn/ one has a parent who just had surgery and we are working with them/ the last still cannot figure out how to get set up for autopay and did make a June payment, just not one in July.
She texted back and asked why I did not have the spreadsheet. I replied because with this new system it was no longer necessary to duplicate the information. The spreadsheet was more for my own information and I use it to keep tabs on other things as well, not just tuition payments. With the 8 hours a week I am allotted to work over summer, I did not have time to be keeping up a spreadsheet that was no longer necessary.
She texted back to tell me to please make tuition my #1 priority always....WTF? Four delinquent accounts out of over 100 is about the best we have ever been! She also reminded me that immunizations could wait until after school starts. (She knew I was working on immunization records because I have to send her an email every week justifying my 8 hours....)
Then she had some other questions about some other stuff....like how we are applying what we call COVID credits each month....and the process, which she totally did not understand.
After explaining all of that, I guess I got a little pissy. I said I just wanted to be clear that tuition has always been my main priority, and that I had been working with the admissions director all summer making phone calls and emails to get all the parents on board with the new system.
Then I went on to try and explain why processing immunization records was an important ongoing process. (not the first time I have tried to explain this) That the state has a timeline for parents to supply the information or else we are not supposed to allow the students to continue attendance. That we used to use a system that ran reports on who was delinquent or up to date. That we now use a new system that has no means to record and report the immunization statuses. That I have to keep a manual record of them and review them to know who is in compliance. It is a big undertaking. (There is a program we could subscribe to for $12.00/mo that would do this, but they are too cheap to subscribe to it...)
Then she said she agree, that it was important....but to wait until school started to work on that. And she thought I sounded angry and apologized if she had offended me.
Then I told her that I was not angry, but yes, a bit offended that after four years she did not trust me to be able to evaluate and prioritize my job duties. I guess I said it in a way that pissed her off. She replied that "this is not an appropriate conversation" and that she wanted to schedule a meeting in a few weeks to talk. That it was her responsibility as a board member to understand everything and that she hoped I could provide the information in a kind manner when asked.
Insert dumbfounded look here....
Well, I found out a little while later that she was on a zoom admin/board meeting and did not have the answers to questions being asked. (the admissions director's father is a board member, and when I was talking to the admission's director after the texts went down he told me that crazy and this sister never know the answers to any of the questions so she was probably being embarrassed for not knowing the tuition stuff.)
I admit I may have been a bit blunt in my texts, but I don't think it was "inappropriate"....just honest!
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Post by mlynn on Jul 28, 2020 6:10:59 GMT
Inappropriate is contacting employees on their personal time for work matters.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jul 28, 2020 6:28:20 GMT
Blaming other people for their own ineptitude seems to run in the family.
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Post by smginaz Suzy on Jul 28, 2020 6:29:47 GMT
Welp....I may have been a little snippy today and I ruffled some feathers~ I haven't been "in the office" since the end of June when I got sick so I have been able to work from home and avoid crazy (and her sister). But this morning I got a text from the sister (who is the accountant) saying that she quickly needed to know how to access the tuition spreadsheet I have always kept in the past to see who had not yet paid June and July's tuition payments. I texted back and told her that the information she needed could now be accessed on our new billing system and gave her the instructions how to do so. We only have four who have not made tuition payments in June and July. One is withdrawing/one has not responded to any forms of communications and will be auto withdrawn/ one has a parent who just had surgery and we are working with them/ the last still cannot figure out how to get set up for autopay and did make a June payment, just not one in July. She texted back and asked why I did not have the spreadsheet. I replied because with this new system it was no longer necessary to duplicate the information. The spreadsheet was more for my own information and I use it to keep tabs on other things as well, not just tuition payments. With the 8 hours a week I am allotted to work over summer, I did not have time to be keeping up a spreadsheet that was no longer necessary. She texted back to tell me to please make tuition my #1 priority always....WTF? Four delinquent accounts out of over 100 is about the best we have ever been! She also reminded me that immunizations could wait until after school starts. (She knew I was working on immunization records because I have to send her an email every week justifying my 8 hours....) Then she had some other questions about some other stuff....like how we are applying what we call COVID credits each month....and the process, which she totally did not understand. After explaining all of that, I guess I got a little pissy. I said I just wanted to be clear that tuition has always been my main priority, and that I had been working with the admissions director all summer making phone calls and emails to get all the parents on board with the new system. Then I went on to try and explain why processing immunization records was an important ongoing process. (not the first time I have tried to explain this) That the state has a timeline for parents to supply the information or else we are not supposed to allow the students to continue attendance. That we used to use a system that ran reports on who was delinquent or up to date. That we now use a new system that has no means to record and report the immunization statuses. That I have to keep a manual record of them and review them to know who is in compliance. It is a big undertaking. (There is a program we could subscribe to for $12.00/mo that would do this, but they are too cheap to subscribe to it...) Then she said she agree, that it was important....but to wait until school started to work on that. And she thought I sounded angry and apologized if she had offended me. Then I told her that I was not angry, but yes, a bit offended that after four years she did not trust me to be able to evaluate and prioritize my job duties. I guess I said it in a way that pissed her off. She replied that "this is not an appropriate conversation" and that she wanted to schedule a meeting in a few weeks to talk. That it was her responsibility as a board member to understand everything and that she hoped I could provide the information in a kind manner when asked. Insert dumbfounded look here.... Well, I found out a little while later that she was on a zoom admin/board meeting and did not have the answers to questions being asked. (the admissions director's father is a board member, and when I was talking to the admission's director after the texts went down he told me that crazy and this sister never know the answers to any of the questions so she was probably being embarrassed for not knowing the tuition stuff.) I admit I may have been a bit blunt in my texts, but I don't think it was "inappropriate"....just honest! And you did count that time as working time, correct? Because you were working.
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Post by ddly on Jul 28, 2020 11:24:03 GMT
She was the inappropriate one. When you meet you should remind her of your work hours and let them know you’re only available then. Of course that won’t change anything but it would make me feel better.
She probably won’t even request a meeting.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jul 28, 2020 13:55:26 GMT
I hope you’re documenting everything—because you know if you leave they’re going to blame you for missing funds, a poor job done, say that you were a control freak....and they will do this!
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Post by houstonsandy on Aug 3, 2020 17:39:15 GMT
I noticed that I didn't have any new emails in my school email this morning. Then, when I was trying to do some work I and I tried emailing something to myself from my home account, it kept bouncing back with an error message. So I texted the admissions director and he said that our website and email were down because crazy forgot to renew our domain registration, even though she had been getting notices since MAY to do so....lol...great!
Also, I have had to continue to work from home because the computer I have at school is apparently too old to work with Microsoft 10. It is slow, won't open up print jobs, can't switch between open tabs.....yet there is no money in the budget to replace it. I don't know how they expect me to work if my computer just sits there and spins its wheels. The IT guy confirmed that it needs to be replaced. So I told them last week I would just continue to work from home on my computer until the issues were resolved, but that I will not use my home printer to print out anything! But, I can't print from my computer at school....so I had to email everything I needed printed today to the admissions director to print for me so I could go pick it up. Crazy hasn't said anything about what she plans to do about my computer issues yet. This happened around February also, and they just replaced my old computer with another equally old computer. I think they are hoping for a miracle resurrection or something. Or expect me to work in one tab only at a time (impossible) and to tell her what I need printed and she will print it out like she told me last time and that did NOT work out at all! surprise/surprise!
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Post by freecharlie on Aug 3, 2020 23:39:26 GMT
I cant believe you are still working there
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Post by julie5 on Aug 4, 2020 1:04:22 GMT
I cant believe you are still working there Same.
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Post by georgiapea on Aug 4, 2020 1:10:43 GMT
There is zero excitement in my life so I get all giddy when I see these updates.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 4, 2020 2:34:53 GMT
Clearly you like Working for this kind of crazy.
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Post by houstonsandy on Aug 4, 2020 4:22:44 GMT
lol...well, I do like my job. I like all the other people I work with. I like all the kids I get to watch grow up. I like the hours. I like that it is just blocks from my house. I like that it gives me flexibility when I need it. The only thing I don't like is Ms. Crazy. I only need to get through one more year and then I will have my daughter out of college and she can provide for herself. Then I can afford to quit if I want to. Hopefully the job market will be better in a year....right now is a sucky time to look for a new job and I guess I should be happy I have one still when so many others are getting laid off.
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Post by artbabe on Aug 4, 2020 14:14:01 GMT
There is zero excitement in my life so I get all giddy when I see these updates. Me too!
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Post by ddly on Aug 4, 2020 14:18:41 GMT
There is zero excitement in my life so I get all giddy when I see these updates. LOL! I have to agree! I enjoy this thread. We'll have to have a virtual party when houstonsandy's daughter graduates from college and she can leave the crazy behind!!
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Post by scrappintoee on Aug 14, 2020 17:13:01 GMT
I'm sooo curious, is your school going to have in-person classes, hybrid, or totally virtual? And, I'm almost afraid to ask--what is Crazy Boss's stance on MASKS?
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