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Post by kellapea on Sept 9, 2019 12:58:09 GMT
Is the key for a good relationship with adult children not giving them your opinion unless asked? If so, I need tips on how to be quiet- it's hard.
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Post by mikklynn on Sept 9, 2019 13:00:38 GMT
For the most part, yes, I think that is true. If I do need to state my opinion, I try to do it privately, especially with DS, who thinks he is never wrong.
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Post by peabay on Sept 9, 2019 13:01:37 GMT
I give my opinion judiciously. I don't give my opinion on their life choices, their partners, their friends unless I have something nice to say. If they come to me about making a choice and ask my opinion, I give it. If they haven't asked, I always ALWAYS find something positive to say and leave out the negative. Why give them an excuse to not be around me? All that being said, none of my kids have major problems. I'm very grateful I'm not dealing with substance abuse, domestic violence where positivity is impossible.
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Post by CeeScraps on Sept 9, 2019 13:05:45 GMT
Yeah....oh and don't look at them either. You'll be doing that wrong too.
I do believe a lot has to also do with what your sex is and what your child's sex is. I think daddys and daughters get along much better than moms/daughters. I have the same feeling about dads/sons and dads/moms.
So, since I've learned this I will ask questions through my husband. He can get a response. Me......she just gets ticked. I've repeatedly told our daughter that she is hearing things that I'm not remotely thinking or wondering about. That hasn't helped, at least outwardly. I would like to think she is thinking about it after she calms down.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Sept 9, 2019 13:21:20 GMT
I don't think it's the key to a good relationship, but it doesn't hurt to keep your opinions to yourself unless asked My mother ALWAYS gave her opinion and meddled and we have a terrible relationship because of it. I have good relationships with my adult kids...there have been rocky parts for sure, but I try hard to have good relationships with each of my kids. For me, we talk (which means I listen) a lot. I listen to a lot of their day to day stories, their complaints, etc. Having a mother who always had an opinion helps keep me in check because I know how annoying it is. If asked sure, but try not to impose. The other biggie is being able to apologize when you overstep or offend. Do you best to like their significant others. My motto is I love my kid enough to love their significant other.
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Post by Basket1lady on Sept 9, 2019 13:31:25 GMT
*snort*. Well, I think I’m keeping my mouth shut, but the kids say otherwise. Part of the problem is that everything I think shows on my face. I do take comfort in the fact that they call me for advice. I can’t be too horrible then, right?
My kids are still pretty young adults—20 and 22, and they both still receive financial support from us since they are still in school. So we do know more about their business than if they were married and living on their own.
I will say that I feel I try to run the pros and cons with them and I try to praise them when they take a risk. We all tend to be a cautious bunch and sometimes a leap of faith can bring great things. I do ask a lot of questions because that who I am (I have a journalism background). But at the same time, it’s so interesting to see how they are developing their own opinions and ways of doing things. I try to show approval when it’s obvious they have really thought something out. For years, we have talked about making a deliberate choice and not just falling in with a crowd.
We also talk about how hard it is to parent young adults and to be a young adult. So they are less sensitive if I ask why they chose to do (or not do) something. I love hearing the answers and getting their opinion. It also helps to look to them for advice. DD works for a Theatre’s costume shop and we will discuss a sewing project that I’m working on. DS is an electrical engineer and I’ve asked a lot advice about European power and what and what not to bring with us on our move to Belgium. I think it helps to let them know that their opinions have value, too.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Sept 9, 2019 13:34:16 GMT
If so, I need tips on how to be quiet- it's hard. Think- would you rather give that opinion or have a good relationship with your child? If it's the latter then keep your opinion to your self.
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Post by scrapsotime on Sept 9, 2019 13:35:02 GMT
Only when asked and even then I try to be very careful about what I say most of the time. It's a bit easier now that they are older - the youngest is 30.
My mother though, had to be taught to stay out of things. She used to call me after she had tried to talk to my children and say can't you make them do or not do something she didn't like. I would just repeat they are adults and I can't make them to anything. She finally got the hint and I haven't got any of those calls in years.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 9, 2019 13:37:52 GMT
Sometimes it’s not giving your opinion when asked too. You have to rad the situation& read your child and just not tell them what they don’t want to hear.
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Post by hop2 on Sept 9, 2019 13:38:15 GMT
Oh, also learn to listen but not judge
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Post by workingclassdog on Sept 9, 2019 13:40:55 GMT
YES.. I don't give my opinion unless asked. Ever. I find my kids shut me out and I know when I was their age I probably did the same to my mom. Especially my middle is getting married. I wait till she gives me information..
I really don't find it hard. My MIL is so in your face for everything and butting in all the time. My mom on the other hand always is supportive but not in your face. MIL has to put in her opinion in EVERYTHING.. now it's backfired because I don't communicate with her unless I have to. Same for my kids.
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Post by teacherlisa on Sept 9, 2019 13:43:46 GMT
momto4kiddos my mother is the same, and we do not have a good relationship because of it. It breaks my heart because I am a good person, I have a good job, I am kind to others, but I will never ever be good enough for her. I have not allowed that to happen with my adult children, and they both have made decisions that would not be what I have chosen for them. All I have to do is remember that because I made different choices for myself then my mother would have, I can't have a relationship with her and I shut right up. My only tips to you are this...1) remember that this is 100% their life and they get to make their own choices. What is right for me, may not be right for them. and 2) I have a very strong faith and I believe that things work out the way they are supposed to...even if it is rough along the way. I am 52 and I make mistakes all of the time. I am not always right. Your (and my) kids are going to make mistakes also. All that said, hugs mama because I know it is hard!
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 9, 2019 13:48:22 GMT
I find that giving an opinion in general conversation can just slip out. If it happens, I try to talk about the other side too. My kids are a lot like me. I heard everything my mom said and took it to heart, so it was hard when I didn't do what she thought I should. For that reason, I try to make my opinion sound like just an option and now what they should do.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Sept 9, 2019 13:51:15 GMT
Once your children are adults it no longer your job to run their life. If they ask your opinion, be careful what you say. Your best bet it to listen and be supportive. If you feel the need to give your opinion, be prepared to not have it taken appreciatively. You need to decide which is more important, giving your opinion or a good relationship with your kids.
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Post by peabay on Sept 9, 2019 13:58:01 GMT
Yeah....oh and don't look at them either. You'll be doing that wrong too. I do believe a lot has to also do with what your sex is and what your child's sex is. I think daddys and daughters get along much better than moms/daughters. I have the same feeling about dads/sons and dads/moms. So, since I've learned this I will ask questions through my husband. He can get a response. Me......she just gets ticked. I've repeatedly told our daughter that she is hearing things that I'm not remotely thinking or wondering about. That hasn't helped, at least outwardly. I would like to think she is thinking about it after she calms down. It’s very interesting - my husband can get away with saying things to our girls that I could never, ever say. You’re right. And I recall other people could ask me things and say things that drove me crazy when my mom asked/said them.
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Post by Linda on Sept 9, 2019 14:20:31 GMT
I don't usually give my opinion - I will listen and help them come to a decision and sometimes ask questions if I think they haven't thought about a particular aspect (for instance -deciding between two apartments, I might ask about the commute from each or what the laundry situation is but I would never say that I liked one better than the other or thought they should choose a particular one)
And I don't necessarily think it's a gender thing - I have an adult son and an adult daughter - they both come to me for advise and to bounce ideas off. Neither goes to DH - but DH is a fixer who needs to find a solution for everything (even if they just want to talk something through) and is strongly opinionated.
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Post by Loydene on Sept 9, 2019 15:29:14 GMT
I try very hard to keep my opinions to myself. Also -- my son doesn't think I'm funny. So I try to keep my jokes to myself as well. When asked for my opinion I try NOT to go into lawyer mode .. unless he is coming to "the lawyer".
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Post by paget on Sept 9, 2019 15:33:49 GMT
I don’t find the success of relationships to be an opposite gender thing at my house. I have much better relationships with my three dds than dh does. By far. And dh gets along better with his father and his four sisters get along better with his mother.
My girls are almost 26, 23, and 20. I can offer opinions - like someone else said, it’s just better to offer it as an option and be fine with whatever. I just be supportive and interested in their lives and proud of them and it’s working great so far. I make a point to offer lots of unsolicited praise about random things so when asked for an opinion I can share the truth, even if not what they want to hear, if it’s important. It’s easier to take it if I’m not always negative and have lots of positive stuff built up. Also, I feel if I always offer rainbows and fluff my opinions starts to not be as true and I want them to continue to trust me.
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Post by rst on Sept 9, 2019 15:47:49 GMT
I've found that my sons already know what my opinions are likely to be. They have my voice running in the way-back of their brains. So even when they do ask me for input, I see it as a challenge to offer something new to that inner, more predictable voice they already have internalized. So I will try to ask questions or do some perspective shifting, with the goal of having a conversation and some give and take, more than just proclaiming my opinion. You are right, sometimes it is really hard. One thing that helps me is to think about what was positive in my interactions with my own parents at that age/stage, as well as remembering what really did not work.
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Post by mom on Sept 9, 2019 16:47:19 GMT
Im failing as a parent of an adult child, so I got nothing to offer. But I hope you are able to figure it out whatever it is you need to be doing (or not doing).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 16:49:59 GMT
I have found that I dont give my opinion unless it is something that I feel will be harmful to them or if they ask for it.
Many times I have been reminded that when they call me it is because they need to vent, not that they want me to fix it.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 9, 2019 16:50:44 GMT
first, unless they are engaged, I don't comment on my kids' relationships. I find it is not my business. I am just a sympathetic listener.
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Post by CarolinaGirl71 on Sept 9, 2019 17:00:07 GMT
Yeah....oh and don't look at them either. You'll be doing that wrong too. I do believe a lot has to also do with what your sex is and what your child's sex is. I think daddys and daughters get along much better than moms/daughters. I have the same feeling about dads/sons and dads/moms. So, since I've learned this I will ask questions through my husband. He can get a response. Me......she just gets ticked. I've repeatedly told our daughter that she is hearing things that I'm not remotely thinking or wondering about. That hasn't helped, at least outwardly. I would like to think she is thinking about it after she calms down. Exactly describes my relationship with DD. My DS is much more likely to call me first than his dad, and to respond much more rationally to me than DD does.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 17:48:15 GMT
Is the key for a good relationship with adult children not giving them your opinion unless asked? If so, I need tips on how to be quiet- it's hard. If you feel you MUST give an opinion keep in mind two things: 1. THEY are the ones that have to live with their choices. It is NOT your life. It is their's to live. You are not responsible to pick up the pieces if things go wrong. If you are finding it hard to clamp your teeth together and hold your tongue then you are probably too invested in their life still. Your job was to get them to adulthood in the best possible shape (mental, physical, spiritual) what they do after that is THEIRS. 2. Take a very very deep dive into the reasons why YOU must give your opinion. Is it worth losing that chance to ever give advice because the adultchild cut your communication off? I hid a lot from my mom because she worries too much and can't hold the advice any more. My dad may worry but it doesn't express it to me and ask a load of questions for months on end about it. If you decide you must indeed do it then: 1. Present the "advice" as things to consider. Starting with the most worrisome aspect. "Have you considered xyz?" and LISTEN to the response. If they have considered that angle then let it go. If they haven't considered it then read their reaction to decide whether to dialogue about it or shut up. You don't have to ask about all the issues. Just the biggest one. 2. Present options instead of advice. Let them know upfront what you are willing to offer if things don't go the way they expect and need help. But only offer what you are really truly willing to provide without strings or resentment. Adultchild making a career change... if it doesn't work can you offer them to return home for 3 months while they look for other opportunities.
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Post by momto4kiddos on Sept 9, 2019 18:17:57 GMT
Im failing as a parent of an adult child, so I got nothing to offer. But I hope you are able to figure it out whatever it is you need to be doing (or not doing). Don't say that! If i'm remembering correctly, you have a young adult kiddo and that is the most difficult age imo. Trust me it gets better!
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Post by nlwilkins on Sept 9, 2019 20:01:27 GMT
Because advice from someone else can help keep mistakes to a minimum, I don't withhold opinions. But I am careful to not belittle or be condemning. Also, I always make sure that they have to do what is best for them and my feelings will not be hurt if they ignore my advice. Another good tactic is to find out their opinion first and then ask questions in a non-confrontational way.
We all love our children and want their lives to be free of mistakes and the like. I feel as their parents we should not withhold our opinions, we have lived longer and supposedly are wiser, etc. But we just need to be sure they feel free to go their own way and know we will love and support them no matter what.
BTW my daughters are in their late forties and we have a good relationship.
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Post by malibou on Sept 9, 2019 20:16:45 GMT
Im failing as a parent of an adult child, so I got nothing to offer. But I hope you are able to figure it out whatever it is you need to be doing (or not doing). I would bet my bottom dollar that you are not failing as a parent to an adult child. Your advice/opinion here as always been thoughtful and accurate as far as I can tell. Sometimes those adult children will try to make you feel that way, but it's usually their own failure that is hanging them up and they either can't or won't see it that way. Getting older often comes with introspection, give them time.
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Post by dewryce on Sept 9, 2019 20:51:07 GMT
Because advice from someone else can help keep mistakes to a minimum, I don't withhold opinions. But I am careful to not belittle or be condemning. Also, I always make sure that they have to do what is best for them and my feelings will not be hurt if they ignore my advice. Another good tactic is to find out their opinion first and then ask questions in a non-confrontational way. We all love our children and want their lives to be free of mistakes and the like. I feel as their parents we should not withhold our opinions, we have lived longer and supposedly are wiser, etc. But we just need to be sure they feel free to go their own way and know we will love and support them no matter what. BTW my daughters are in their late forties and we have a good relationship. I agree with this. I think so many issues come with how the advice is given, not simply that it is offered in the first place.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Sept 9, 2019 21:00:50 GMT
ooooh, thats a hard one. I have 2DDs. It's hard. Esp with my one dd. She has a bf I've talked about on here before. Haven't been a fan of him, but he's gotten better over the years. I think if we hadn't expressed our opinions to her, things would have been much worse. He knows our standards, and has tried better. ie. got a job. That's a high standard coming from his family. The most recent one was she dyed her hair a horrible pink color. I do not like odd colors like that. So I didn't say anything. She KNOWS I don't like it, but I didn't say anything....bit my tongue. I think just because I didn't say anything though. she knew I wasn't a fan.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 9, 2019 21:58:10 GMT
I always give my opinion on everything but never expect her to do what I tell her to. I raised her to listen to others but then make her own decisions. It's not up to me to tell her how to live her life. From the time she was little we would talk things out, go through all of the consequences that may come from whatever decision she made and then she does what she wants to.
She is older now but I never tried to tell her what to do even when she was young. It helps that she has always made pretty good choices and we have always mostly agreed.
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