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Post by malibou on Oct 15, 2019 10:46:48 GMT
No ssn and when I undress completely, I leave my panties on top of the pile.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 15, 2019 11:39:29 GMT
I refuse to fill out the medical history form every year before my physical. They have my records and it's all computerized. I have used the same clinic for 30 years.
It's the dentist office where I am defiant. I don't need you to take my BP. No, I won't fill out the sleep apnea assessment. I have a doctor, thank you. I want to get in and get out!
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 15, 2019 11:57:36 GMT
I've always refused a flu jab. Until this year. Because Australia had a bad flu season, and because I work in healthcare, this year I decided to have it. That was on Friday, and I've been feeling terrible ever since. Coincidence? Possibly. Pfft.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Oct 15, 2019 12:13:37 GMT
If I'm at the doctor, I'm there because I need his help with a health problem. I'm in no position to be coy.
I never give my SSN # though . . .
Now that marijuana is legal in our state, I'm wondering when the intake forms will reflect usage?
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Oct 15, 2019 12:30:14 GMT
My favorite defiance happened without me instigating it. I have veneers on my front 4 teeth, they're old and need to be replaced. They're sensitive. The dental hygienist doesn't clean them with that awful little spinny brush thing at my bi-annual cleanings. Last time she also said 'you don't get flossed,right?'- meaning my whole mouth. I said 'right!'. I'll gladly bypass her shoving that damn floss in between my teeth! There's no reason for her not to but she thought there was and I didn't correct her.
I don't give my SSnumber and I've told my DDs not to either. There's no reason they need to have it!
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Post by gar on Oct 15, 2019 12:32:23 GMT
I've always refused a flu jab. Until this year. Because Australia had a bad flu season, and because I work in healthcare, this year I decided to have it. That was on Friday, and I've been feeling terrible ever since. Coincidence? Possibly. Pfft. Ahh, really? Hope you feel better soon! I've just booked mine I was fine last year so I'm crossing my fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 12:35:27 GMT
I really don't see the need to be defiant at the doctor's, I only go if I'm ill and I'd like them to help me so what's the point?
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RedSquirrelUK
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 15, 2019 13:26:01 GMT
I've always refused a flu jab. Until this year. Because Australia had a bad flu season, and because I work in healthcare, this year I decided to have it. That was on Friday, and I've been feeling terrible ever since. Coincidence? Possibly. Pfft. Ahh, really? Hope you feel better soon! I've just booked mine I was fine last year so I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks! I'm still not sure whether it was just bad timing, and I doubt I'll ever know. Fingers crossed for you!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 13:27:54 GMT
If the doctor asks to be referred to as Dr. X then I ask to be referred to as Ms. Zinger.
If we're going to be all formal and go w/titles, that's mine.
I like docs who say 'Call me Sue' or whatever their first name is.
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Oct 15, 2019 13:29:17 GMT
I really don't see the need to be defiant at the doctor's, I only go if I'm ill and I'd like them to help me so what's the point? I think our system is different from in the US. There's a lot of seemingly unnecessary paperwork and insurance red tape to get past there. We just go along when we're poorly, and they do everything else seamlessly without our knowing anything about it. We're not required to take time off from work to have annual health checks just to satisfy insurance companies, thank goodness.
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Post by peano on Oct 15, 2019 13:32:38 GMT
My endocrinologist always nags me to go on statins. I refuse. Not in defiance, but this was me today and my last 3 or 4 appointments. My cholesterol is just a little high. Last time it was actually in the normal range and he was still pressing for statins. If I felt I needed them I would take them, but at this point nothing tells me they are worth the side effects with where I am at. The thing is, my cholesterol is great. She's just making recommendations based on my clinical picture with Cushing's disease related issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 13:44:53 GMT
Another vote for not understanding defiance at the doctor's office. If I go to the doctor, I want her help and being pissy with her isn't going to get me what I need.
I save my defiance for annoying telemarketing calls.
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Post by peano on Oct 15, 2019 13:58:51 GMT
No ssn and when I undress completely, I leave my panties on top of the pile. Ooh! You're a badass!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 15, 2019 14:12:11 GMT
Many of these questions are asked because they have to be in order to meet regulatory and/or insurance requirements. Computers aren’t perfect so I’m usually ok if they want to ask me the same questions they’ve asked before. They can’t go through every patient record to see if that section is already filled out or not. It’s probably just easier for me to answer the questions about myself and they can update the computer if needed. OMG. We switched clinics this year because our health insurance changed and we could no longer see the doctors we had before. Ok, fine, I was ready for some level of hassle with filling stuff out. DD needed to be seen first because we were going on a vacation that we had been planning for a year in two months and had a nagging cough that wouldn’t go away. Went online to choose a clinic. Went through all the rigamarole online and filled out the digital paperwork with her medical history so I could make an appointment. The thing tells me to “show up 15 minutes early to fill out paperwork.” Okay, except I *already DID that*. Whatever. Picked DD up from school a little early so we would get to the new clinic in time. Traffic was better than expected, so we got there 30 minutes early. The lady hands me a clipboard with all the same crap I did online two days before. Filled it out on paper. Ended up waiting another 40 minutes past when DD’s appointment was scheduled to be seen. Get in the room, hand the nurse the paperwork I had diligently filled out (twice, once online and once on paper) and then she proceeds to verbally ASK me everything I had already freaking answered! TWICE. They also had me sign something to have her records sent over from the previous clinic as well. It took another 20 minutes or so for the doctor to actually come in to see DD, and then HE TOO asked me all the same crap. Honestly people? Really, what exactly is the point of me doing any of it if they’re just going to ask me the same questions three or four different times? And then the worst part was that after all that he didn’t even bother to actually read at any of the stuff or LISTEN to why we were there, and instead made up some other narrative that didn’t correlate to anything I actually said. I told him multiple times that I *KNEW* she was having a sinus issue which was likely causing the cough, but for some reason he wanted to do a test for whooping cough, a chest x-ray, give her an inhaler and Lord only knows what else. By that time we had been there for almost three HOURS. Finally after a good deal of frustration, a CT scan was done two weeks later which confirmed exactly what I had said weeks earlier, that the kid was having major sinus problems and his response was basically, “You’re right, my bad.” Maybe there would be less need for all this nonsense paperwork if anyone would bother to actually LOOK at this stuff. And if they’re not going to do that, then seriously it would save everyone’s time if they just entered it once at the time the person is seen and built that time into the patient visit because they’re already doing it anyway which then slows the whole process down. Long story short, the kid has allergies. Not whooping cough. Not pneumonia. Not asthma. And if anyone would have listened to me in the first place, we could have been sent to the allergist right away and I would have saved a crapton of time and money. I first took her in at the beginning of February, and she was finally seen by an allergist in MID MAY. Three and a half months (and multiple other doctor and clinic visits) later. It’s ridiculous. And then lather, rinse, repeat all this same BS for myself when I had my gallbladder issues.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 14:29:11 GMT
If they're overloaded with administrative crap, they should acknowledge that their patients are, too, and stop giving us reams of paperwork to fill out when they're just going to ask the same questions when they see us. I've started responding "it's on your forms" when they ask me questions I've already answered. I'm not going to the trouble to look up things twice because they're too lazy/overbooked to read the forms. What would be even better is if they allowed the patient to update their own information on the computer and then they can review it as necessary. this bugs me. I had a hysterectomy in 2011, I still get asked when was my last period...as they are scrolling through what I presumed was my medical record. 🙄 This. I will tell them...October...2015. 🙂
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Post by sharlag on Oct 15, 2019 15:53:20 GMT
I really don't see the need to be defiant at the doctor's, I only go if I'm ill and I'd like them to help me so what's the point? You know what, lainey ? I think maybe it's because I feel vulnerable there. I'm not uncooperative in general; in fact-- I'm a people pleaser. But somewhere along the way I've come to feel a need to assert myself in medical situations. I don't feel like that at the bank, or the post office.
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Post by sharlag on Oct 15, 2019 15:54:50 GMT
Maybe there would be less need for all this nonsense paperwork if anyone would bother to actually LOOK at this stuff. And if they’re not going to do that, then seriously it would save everyone’s time if they just entered it once at the time the person is seen and built that time into the patient visit because they’re already doing it anyway which then slows the whole process down. Well said!
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 15, 2019 16:42:31 GMT
My only act of defiance was to refuse to take a pregnancy test before recent surgery.
I also find it annoying when forms ask about my BC use and don't include spousal/partner vasectomy as an option.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 15, 2019 17:34:14 GMT
Besides the gynecologist, where are you being asked to strip down? At any gyn Ive been to, they want you to leave your socks on anyway. When I go for my annual exam (not gyno) they tell me to take off my clothes, but I usually leave on my underwear. Oh, I've never undressed at my PCP's office, only the GYN
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Oct 15, 2019 17:43:49 GMT
My only act of defiance was to refuse to take a pregnancy test before recent surgery. Interesting--I've never been given a choice. They run it with other pre-surgical labs.
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Post by Dalai Mama on Oct 15, 2019 18:51:16 GMT
I take pleasure in being startlingly frank with my doctor. Apparently, I have no modesty and I'm incapable of embarrassment. ETA* I try to get undressed when the doctor is in the room because I think it’s funny how awkward and uncomfortable they get. This. I'm the same way with the woman who waxes me. FFS, you're three seconds away from ripping all of my hair out from places I don't even let my husband touch - let's not play coy with a little towel, k?
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Post by Miss Ang on Oct 15, 2019 19:07:47 GMT
I really don't see the need to be defiant at the doctor's, I only go if I'm ill and I'd like them to help me so what's the point? You know what, lainey ? I think maybe it's because I feel vulnerable there. I'm not uncooperative in general; in fact-- I'm a people pleaser. But somewhere along the way I've come to feel a need to assert myself in medical situations. I don't feel like that at the bank, or the post office. I do understand the need to be assertive when the situation requires you to truly advocate for yourself (or a family member). But finding little ways to be defiant seems silly to me (sorry, Sharla!). I'm only at the doctor because I have an issue I want help with, not because they are forcing me to be there. I want to ask, for example, opening and closing the door, what does that get you? What are you gaining? The staff becoming annoyed is the only outcome you're going to get. They aren't going to move you ahead of another patient because you're a PIA. And when a doctor is running late I try to realize that if I have a need for the doctor to spend a little extra time in my appointment to explain something to me (thus causing a delay in the following appointment(s)), I sure as heck hope they don't rush out of the room, leaving me without feeling fully educated on a diagnosis or treatment just because my 15 min. time limit is up.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Oct 15, 2019 19:13:41 GMT
I want to ask, for example, opening and closing the door, what does that get you? What are you gaining? The staff becoming annoyed is the only outcome you're going to get. They aren't going to move you ahead of another patient because you're a PIA. no, but they might get 'annoyed' enough to tell you that the doctor is running late, or that they haven't forgotten about you altogether. I've sat IN an exam room for OVER 30 minutes before (obviously LONG after my original appointment time), and honestly, I've wondered if they were closing up the office and forgotten about me! Because no one ever even came into the room at all, even just to tell me the doctor was running behind or that there had been an emergency. I don't need to put up with bad 'service' from a medical person / medical practice just because I'm the one who made the appointment with them. From what's been posted on this thread, it really sounds like Canadians / Europeans must get REALLY different (much better) service at your medical appointments than most of us in the US do.
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Post by sharlag on Oct 15, 2019 19:23:45 GMT
Miss Ang , some of it might be passive aggression. I get aggravated by unexplained hoops I'm asked to jump through.
But, like crimsoncat05 said, I HAVE gotten the impression that my opening the door got me to see the doc after they might have forgotten me. It felt like, more than once, that seeing a person in the room caused a rift in the space time continuum a hastening in the visit from the doc. Plus, it lets a nice breeze into the stuffy exam room. I'm not CLOSING the door after opening it-- a nurse does that.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 15, 2019 20:29:31 GMT
And when a doctor is running late I try to realize that if I have a need for the doctor to spend a little extra time in my appointment to explain something to me (thus causing a delay in the following appointment(s)), I sure as heck hope they don't rush out of the room, leaving me without feeling fully educated on a diagnosis or treatment just because my 15 min. time limit is up. While I can appreciate what you’re saying here, if they’re running more than 10-15 minutes behind I for one would like to be given the option of rescheduling (ETA: or seeing a different provider). Nothing is more frustrating to me than to be sitting there, half (or less) dressed, freezing my butt off, with no clue how long it’s actually going to take them to get around to getting to me. I’d rather reschedule and come back a different day (unless I’m puking sick) than to be held up way beyond my actual appointment time. They expect me to respect their time by showing up 10-15 minutes or more early so they don’t get behind, the least they can do is respect mine in return when they do.
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Post by jcm28 on Oct 15, 2019 21:44:06 GMT
After our move, I had to get established with a gastroenterologist. He asked,”Are you aware that you aren’t supposed to take NSAIDs?” My reply, “ Yes, I am aware.” He was walking out and did a hitch in his step and turned around and looked at me. The PA laughed and said, “ You’re a nurse, aren’t you?” Guilty as charged.
Janet
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Post by RosieKat on Oct 15, 2019 21:58:03 GMT
I don't fully fill out the multi-page forms I get at my annual checkup, because I have never once seen my doctor look at them. Instead, she asks me all the same questions and directly enters them into the computer. So why should I do it beforehand???
I also don't fully fill out the meds list if I go to a different practitioner - all my doctors are within the same network so they pull up the same file on me every time (I've verified this). So my filling out the form on paper is likely less accurate if anything!
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Post by peaname on Oct 15, 2019 22:41:15 GMT
I worked for a plastic surgeon many years ago. We’d have three patients in the rooms before the doc showed up for work. Then he’d spend all day trying to catch up and we’d have to stay late. I hated that job!
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Post by misadventurous on Oct 16, 2019 0:40:55 GMT
Anytime my blood is drawn they ask me to look away. No, I will be watching, and I explain every single time it does not bother me to watch a blood draw. The last time she told me to look away, I told her I will if she will! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Whenever I go, I always look away and they inevitably say, 'Are you ok? Do you think you're going to faint?' I'm like, 'No, I just prefer not to watch you suck the very lifeforce from my veins.' I even get the willies just from seeing the vial(s) of blood afterwards. shudder
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Post by basketdiva on Oct 16, 2019 1:00:25 GMT
My act if defiance will be waiting until day 29 to pay a bill fir my husband- if we ever get billed. Husband was 2nd appointment of the day and didn’t go to exam room until 30 minutes after appointment time, waited another 20 minutes for the doctor to come in. The doctor proceeded to take a personal call while going over the test results
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