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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 26, 2019 2:33:13 GMT
On more than one occasion, my cousin's daughter has shared an online petition to cancel classes at her college due to weather. Today the petition said that they should close classes due to the forecast of 2-4 inches of snow and they should let the kids go home for Thanksgiving.
Now, I can understand that the students want to go home for the holiday and would love to have an extra day or two out of classes. But does it seem entitled for students to be demanding this? It really rubs me the wrong way. What do the peas think?
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Post by huskermom98 on Nov 26, 2019 2:40:46 GMT
Entitled. 2-4 inches is nothing.
During 4 years of college we had school cancelled only twice--both times were because of heavy snow. One of those was definitely necessary because it was an October snow and the heavy wet snow took out tons of trees on campus. When it was cold we just bundled up.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Nov 26, 2019 2:42:27 GMT
Where on earth does your niece go to school that the student body thinks it should close for 2-4 inches of snow? My city doesn't even send the plows out to side streets unless there's more than 3 inches.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 26, 2019 2:44:11 GMT
Where are they at? 2-4 seems like nothing to me, but different areas don't have the plows we do.
FWIW, university of Wyoming sent out a message and closed todsy and tomorrow due to snow, but they were going to get a blizzard.
Northern Colorado and all the community colleges closed early today and will be closed tomorrow, but we are looking at 8-15 inches plus the ground was wet first and will turn to ice
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 26, 2019 2:46:28 GMT
Oh and parents yesterday were bitching that the professors weren't canceling classes and they had tests and stuff.
For me, if the university is scheduled to have classes, holiday or not, you have classes.
In the case above, state patrol has told people to stay off the roads. That, to me, should be when a university closed, when the police say to not drive
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Post by katlady on Nov 26, 2019 2:49:48 GMT
I know some colleges in So. Cal. have cancelled classes for tomorrow (Wednesday) because of the storm coming. Our storm is "just" rain, but some of my parent friends are happy that their kids won't be driving home late on Wednesday in the storm.
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Post by pierkiss on Nov 26, 2019 2:50:58 GMT
It won’t work. The weather has to be severe for university to close. Because universities has been successfully sued by students seeking tuition reimbursement (or more) for closing due to weather. 2-4 inches of snow is hardly an emergency.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 26, 2019 2:53:47 GMT
She is in far Eastern Nebraska.
My irritation is not that they think classes should be cancelled for that amount of snow so much as the petitioning. IMO, that is the decision of the administration and students need to respect their decisions. Are they going to petition their boss every time they want something? If the classes do end up getting cancelled, do they think it is actually a result of the petition?
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Post by ellen on Nov 26, 2019 2:57:10 GMT
If this is in Minnesota, that is laughable.
eta - I felt like my daughter's college made good decisions regarding the weather. Her first three years they never had to cancel school. Last year they had to close at least five days. I hope these college kids are able to get home for the holidays. I have a lot of sympathy for a homesick kid not being able to get home because of a storm. As much as I know that snowstorms are just part of life in MN, I complain about them - especially when they screw up my plans.
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Post by stampinchick on Nov 26, 2019 3:10:50 GMT
What's she going to do when she has a job and they are calling for 2-4 inches of snow in the morning? If she wakes up and there's 4" of snow on the ground she better get her butt to work on time because her boss isn't going to shut down the company for that amount of snow. Same if the forecast is for that amount in the afternoon - the boss isn't going to send everyone home early for that amount of snow. Let her petition her boss to close because of snow and she'll find herself unemployed. College is a time to prep for a career. Petitions are a no-no.
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Post by busy on Nov 26, 2019 3:15:19 GMT
Who cares if they petition? It's not like the administration has to honor whatever the results are. College students have forever done stupid stuff like this. We just didn't have the internet to make it as easy.
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Post by ~summer~ on Nov 26, 2019 3:16:10 GMT
I went to school in upstate NY and I think we only had classes closed once - it was a HUGE blizzard and you weren't even allowed to drive on the roads, the city would issue you a ticket. You couldn't even walk outside...I think as I recall I was stranded at my boyfriend's fraternity for a couple of days  |
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Post by ComplicatedLady on Nov 26, 2019 3:16:23 GMT
If we got four inches of snow, everything would close, but I live in Phoenix. We had hail last week and schools were considering closing the next day. There was enough hail in some areas that people were actually sledding in it! In Phoenix!
I agree with you that an online petition may not be the best way to handle this.
If kids were being punished for not attending classes when it was truly unsafe, that’s one thing.
Because they want extra days off before a holiday? Nope, that’s a “welcome to the real world” scenario.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 26, 2019 3:36:48 GMT
I'm about to pee myself laughing at the idea of closing school for 2-4" of snow and I live in CENTRAL CALIFORNIA where we get snow like once every 25 years. We had snow a few years back and I still drove myself to work (at a school) and kids still went to school. The school buses in the district I live in (but don't teach in) all carry chains even.
Those kids are TOTALLY entitled. Yes, they will want to do a petition. Petitions are all the rage for people who want their way and need people to support them. SO LAME!
Colleges for AGES haven't closed this week. Professors work, students go to school. That's how it is.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 26, 2019 3:38:46 GMT
Where are they at? 2-4 seems like nothing to me, but different areas don't have the plows we do. FWIW, university of Wyoming sent out a message and closed todsy and tomorrow due to snow, but they were going to get a blizzard. Northern Colorado and all the community colleges closed early today and will be closed tomorrow, but we are looking at 8-15 inches plus the ground was wet first and will turn to ice Up to 24 inches for northern Colorado! You enjoy all that snow.  . This will be snowstorm number 5 tomorrow. Crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 3:51:27 GMT
College students can get a petition going. Doesn't mean the admin has to grant it. Shrug. I don't see what there is to be irritated about. 2-4" of snow most likely would get my university cancelled without the petition. We simply don't have the snow removal mitigation equipment to deal. There is over a thousand miles of roads for every plow/salt truck the state owns. No idea what Nebraska has. Plus we normally start out with rain that freezes then snow. Given the number of inexperienced drivers.... yeah, we likely would call school off early and all go home (wherever home is) I don't understand the mind set that today's students/workers have to put up with the same conditions that were tolerated decades ago.
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Post by fuji on Nov 26, 2019 3:52:20 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds.
DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer.
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Post by elaine on Nov 26, 2019 3:54:12 GMT
When I was actively teaching college classes, a running joke amongst professors is that college classes seem to be the one place people/students want to get less for their money and complain when professors/instructors insist on giving them their full tuition’s worth.
Would your niece be happy if she paid for a dozen eggs, but got home and found that there were only 10 in the carton?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 3:56:29 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds. DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer. I forgot about the winds we are supposed to get.... yeah, strong wind completely changes the game with just a couple inches of snow. |
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Nov 26, 2019 3:57:21 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds. DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer. Yes, a blizzard is much different from a general 2-4 inches. I hope your son can get home! |
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Post by Country Ham on Nov 26, 2019 4:04:28 GMT
I went to university in Canada. That should say it all ROFL. The university was never called off my entire 4 years. You trudged through the snow to class and if your prof couldn't make it in there was a note taped to the door "class canceled" and you trudged back to the dorm.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 26, 2019 4:06:50 GMT
Where are they at? 2-4 seems like nothing to me, but different areas don't have the plows we do. FWIW, university of Wyoming sent out a message and closed todsy and tomorrow due to snow, but they were going to get a blizzard. Northern Colorado and all the community colleges closed early today and will be closed tomorrow, but we are looking at 8-15 inches plus the ground was wet first and will turn to ice Up to 24 inches for northern Colorado! You enjoy all that snow. . This will be snowstorm number 5 tomorrow. Crazy. I'm sticking to the original. I dont even get a snow day because we are on break |
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Post by fuji on Nov 26, 2019 4:10:48 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds. DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer. Yes, a blizzard is much different from a general 2-4 inches. I hope your son can get home! Thank you! It's not looking good, but we'll all survive. I would rather have him safely in his apartment instead of driving in those conditions. He'll be fine. I know it seems entitled, but for some kids it's the first opportunity to go home and see their extended family since school started. Now they'll be stuck in the dorms or apartments, possibly completely alone. It's nice to get a little TLC from family during the holidays before the final weeks of the semester. It's certainly not the end of the world or worthy of outrage, but I get why they're doing it. |
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Post by stampinchick on Nov 26, 2019 4:11:38 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds. DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer. Ah, yes, high winds does change things. But the petition idea still is a bad idea. The administration will be aware of the weather situation and if they feel the forecast warrants closing a day early they will do that. Petition is still a bad idea. The students should learn how to have a proper dialogue. They should call the administration office or send an email requesting that they would consider closing early to allow travel before there are white-out conditions. That's a much more mature approach than a petition. |
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Post by elaine on Nov 26, 2019 4:13:24 GMT
Not every student has to drive a long distance to get home for a holiday. Some are local. Some don’t have family to speak of. Some couldn’t afford to travel even if they wanted to. If the weather would permit classes to be held, it isn’t fair to a multitude of students to cancel classes just so that some students could travel early.
There are compromises - professors/instructors can make provisions for those students who want/need to travel before bad weather hits and still hold classes for those who are in town.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 26, 2019 4:17:38 GMT
Up to 24 inches for northern Colorado! You enjoy all that snow.  . This will be snowstorm number 5 tomorrow. Crazy. I'm sticking to the original. I dont even get a snow day because we are on break Our district has already used all of their snow days. Before Thanksgiving. I am sure people here are glad they aren't in class for this storm. All of the new teachers are hoping for more days. They don't know how rough it is to make them up. |
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Post by fuji on Nov 26, 2019 4:20:01 GMT
2-4 inches of snow alone is not a big deal, but adding in high winds makes it dangerous in the rural areas. We're supposed to get 3-5 inches with winds of 40 m.p.h. That will be a blizzard. Driving in whiteout conditions is terrifying. It's literally like driving with your eyes closed, except you see all white. No road, no trees, no front of the car ... absolutely nothing but white. And all it takes is a few inches of snow and high winds. DS won't be able to come home from college unless he can leave tomorrow before it hits. He won't petition or complain, but it's definitely a bummer. Ah, yes, high winds does change things. But the petition idea still is a bad idea. The administration will be aware of the weather situation and if they feel the forecast warrants closing a day early they will do that. Petition is still a bad idea. The students should learn how to have a proper dialogue. They should call the administration office or send an email requesting that they would consider closing early to allow travel before there are white-out conditions. That's a much more mature approach than a petition. I get what you're saying. In the past, petitions seemed kind of pouty and whiny. The new trend out there is to start an online petition. It's essentially the same as an email except instead of getting 100 separate emails, you see all those supporting an idea in one spot. I'm pretty sure an administrator would rather see the petition instead of numerous emails. Not sure how effective it is, but I'm sure they think it's worth a shot. |
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 26, 2019 4:23:56 GMT
Where are they at? 2-4 seems like nothing to me, but different areas don't have the plows we do. FWIW, university of Wyoming sent out a message and closed todsy and tomorrow due to snow, but they were going to get a blizzard. Northern Colorado and all the community colleges closed early today and will be closed tomorrow, but we are looking at 8-15 inches plus the ground was wet first and will turn to ice Up to 24 inches for northern Colorado! You enjoy all that snow. . This will be snowstorm number 5 tomorrow. Crazy. My dh is doing his rat studies with his triple negative breast cancer drug in a lab at fort Collins and tomorrow is day 5 of 5 Ugh...I hope the lab will be able to collect and finalize...$11,000 study. |
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 26, 2019 4:41:18 GMT
Yes, a blizzard is much different from a general 2-4 inches. I hope your son can get home! Thank you! It's not looking good, but we'll all survive. I would rather have him safely in his apartment instead of driving in those conditions. He'll be fine. I know it seems entitled, but for some kids it's the first opportunity to go home and see their extended family since school started. Now they'll be stuck in the dorms or apartments, possibly completely alone. It's nice to get a little TLC from family during the holidays before the final weeks of the semester. It's certainly not the end of the world or worthy of outrage, but I get why they're doing it. If everyone else, or quite a large number of kids, can’t go home, they can all hang together. He might make more new friends. |
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Post by Dalai Mama on Nov 26, 2019 5:23:57 GMT
I went to university in Canada. That should say it all ROFL. The university was never called off my entire 4 years. You trudged through the snow to class and if your prof couldn't make it in there was a note taped to the door "class canceled" and you trudged back to the dorm. I went to university in Montreal. With 2-4 inches, I might have considered not biking to school. |
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. This will be snowstorm number 5 tomorrow. Crazy. 
