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Post by mom on Jan 13, 2020 22:42:11 GMT
But she does refer to them as the Sussexes. BTW, what WOULD be their last name if they are no longer duke & duchess of Sussex? I am thinking yes. Just like Harry was Harry Windsor in his younger years. His last name now would be Sussex (like Beatrice is Beatrice York).
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Post by gar on Jan 13, 2020 23:00:01 GMT
BTW, what WOULD be their last name if they are no longer duke & duchess of Sussex? I am thinking yes. Just like Harry was Harry Windsor in his younger years. His last name now would be Sussex (like Beatrice is Beatrice York). Officially they are Windsor or Mountbatten Windsor but there has been royal thing in recent years where they've taken the name of their title...William and Harry were known as Wales and, as you say, Beatrice and Eugenie have become known as York.
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Post by jess on Jan 13, 2020 23:08:36 GMT
A message from the Queen was just released: A statement from Her Majesty the Queen Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.Is the money that Prince Charles controls from the Duchy of Cornwall (I think that's the correct name) considered public funds?
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Post by mom on Jan 13, 2020 23:16:49 GMT
A message from the Queen was just released: A statement from Her Majesty the Queen Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.Is the money that Prince Charles controls from the Duchy of Cornwall (I think that's the correct name) considered public funds? From what I understand - money from the Duchy is available to whoever is the Prince of Wales(so when Prince Charles becomes King and William becomes the Prince of Wales, William will control the money). Some say its public money since it comes from rent/leases that the public pay, but others say no, its the Prince of Wales to use as however he wants.
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Post by snyder on Jan 13, 2020 23:18:25 GMT
A message from the Queen was just released: A statement from Her Majesty the Queen "Today my family had very constructive discussions on the future of my grandson and his family. My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family. Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives. It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK. These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days." Kind of interesting that she doesn't refer to them as the Duke and Duchess.... You can bet your bottom dollar that would have been interpreted as her excluding them as member of her family and would have been too formal. She's got two hats here, one a grandmother that wants the best for her grandchild and one as a Head of State.I think it was correctly worded under the circumstances. Evidently, Madame Tussauds thinks of them as not being part of the family as they have already removed their figures from display. How tacky.
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Post by wordfish on Jan 13, 2020 23:19:28 GMT
But she does refer to them as the Sussexes. BTW, what WOULD be their last name if they are no longer duke & duchess of Sussex? Archie is Mountbatten-Windsor, so I imagine that's probably what they would be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 23:27:22 GMT
You can bet your bottom dollar that would have been interpreted as her excluding them as member of her family and would have been too formal. She's got two hats here, one a grandmother that wants the best for her grandchild and one as a Head of State.I think it was correctly worded under the circumstances. Evidently, Madame Tussauds thinks of them as not being part of the family as they have already removed their figures from display. How tacky. I read that as fingers and was really confused. Off with their --- fingers.
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Post by jubejubes on Jan 13, 2020 23:28:55 GMT
So glad that they want to be financially independent.
This should mean that the Canadian taxpayer isn't responsible for the cost of their security while they are in Canada, already pegged at $1.7M.
That money is better spent on homelessness and other places.
I will be waiting for the announcement that they are paying ALL of their costs of living.
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Post by gar on Jan 14, 2020 0:04:15 GMT
You can bet your bottom dollar that would have been interpreted as her excluding them as member of her family and would have been too formal. She's got two hats here, one a grandmother that wants the best for her grandchild and one as a Head of State.I think it was correctly worded under the circumstances. Evidently, Madame Tussauds thinks of them as not being part of the family as they have already removed their figures from display. How tacky. Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they!
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Post by gale w on Jan 14, 2020 0:17:02 GMT
Evidently, Madame Tussauds thinks of them as not being part of the family as they have already removed their figures from display. How tacky. Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they! Whose tweet? Madame Tussauds? So Harry and Meghan requested the removal or the other members of the royal family?
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Post by jess on Jan 14, 2020 0:45:00 GMT
From what I understand - money from the Duchy is available to whoever is the Prince of Wales(so when Prince Charles becomes King and William becomes the Prince of Wales, William will control the money). Some say its public money since it comes from rent/leases that the public pay, but others say no, its the Prince of Wales to use as however he wants. Thanks. So it's not actually Charles' money - just money that he controls? Regardless, I don't think you can want to be financially independent but still expect a handout from Daddy. But it makes it a little better if it's not public money.
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Post by snyder on Jan 14, 2020 0:55:06 GMT
Evidently, Madame Tussauds thinks of them as not being part of the family as they have already removed their figures from display. How tacky. Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they! But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely?
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Post by mom on Jan 14, 2020 1:41:07 GMT
From what I understand - money from the Duchy is available to whoever is the Prince of Wales(so when Prince Charles becomes King and William becomes the Prince of Wales, William will control the money). Some say its public money since it comes from rent/leases that the public pay, but others say no, its the Prince of Wales to use as however he wants. Thanks. So it's not actually Charles' money - just money that he controls? Regardless, I don't think you can want to be financially independent but still expect a handout from Daddy. But it makes it a little better if it's not public money. Correct - its money he gets access to because he is the Prince of Wales. And yes, I agree. I think its messed up to want to be independent but still want handouts. From anyone.
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Post by mom on Jan 14, 2020 1:43:21 GMT
Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they! But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely? According to the CNN article, they've temporarily been removed to reflect them separating from the Royal Family. Apparently they will come back in another area of the attraction. www.cnn.com/style/article/duke-duchess-sussex-madame-tussauds-removal/index.html
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Post by pjaye on Jan 14, 2020 2:07:03 GMT
I'll respect them more if they stop taking handouts from anyone and just earn their own money. I've seen where they have been estimated to be worth around $60M just of their own money. Surely a family of 3 can live on that fairly well! They just need to stop living a "royal life" and flying around on private jets.
I don't see the big deal about security, even at $2M per year for the Canadian Government, that's a drop in the ocean for any first world country. They waste money on all sorts of stupid shit (our Gov. spent $80M to take a poll on same sex marriage when they could have just changed the law for nothing). I'm sure some people will make a big deal out of that but in reality it's a minor issue, and they are still a part of the Commonwealth. Obviously Harry gets on well with President Trudeau, but when he's out a new president may not be as supportive of the arrangement.
I think the sticking point will be their titles, I don't think they went into this intending to give them up - hence the trademark of "sussex royal" but based on the Queen's statement that could be what she wants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 2:25:59 GMT
Maybe the Duke and Duchess of Sussex needs to check who they employ then if this is true. Christian Jones is their communications secretary and it's up to their own office who they ultimately employ.Of course they have to be vetted by the main press office but each press office does have a say in who is chosen. H & M's press office isn't based at Kensington Palace either as others have suggested, it's based at Buckingham Palalce linkI thought he works for the Cambridges. ?? He was the deputy when Princes William and Harry shared a press/ communication office. When they separated the office a while ago he was appointed to the Sussex’s press office. The job was advertised publicly but he was the one appointed. ETA .... just double checked that and yes it does seem that he is the Cambridge’s. Seems a bit strange though as he’s been photographed out with Meghan on numerous occasions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 3:03:46 GMT
Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they! But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely? I wouldn’t have thought they would remove them completely but have removed them from the separated bit among the “ senior Royal” side of the display. That’s just a guess though as the other Royals are situated slightly apart at Madm T’s to where the ones that are classed as seniors.
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Post by gar on Jan 14, 2020 9:09:54 GMT
Whose tweet? Madame Tussauds? Yes, Madame Tussaud's. But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely? They haven't been removed completely I don't think - just moved so they're not by the side of the Queen with William and Catherine the other side I believe. Regarding money, the Queen's statement yesterday said that the Sussexes 'have made it clear they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives' which I think shows that money is obviously seen as one of the biggest issues and that Harry and Meghan want to make that point clear to the public.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 9:13:43 GMT
I'll respect them more if they stop taking handouts from anyone and just earn their own money. I've seen where they have been estimated to be worth around $60M just of their own money. Surely a family of 3 can live on that fairly well! They just need to stop living a "royal life" and flying around on private jets. I don't see the big deal about security, even at $2M per year for the Canadian Government, that's a drop in the ocean for any first world country. They waste money on all sorts of stupid shit (our Gov. spent $80M to take a poll on same sex marriage when they could have just changed the law for nothing). I'm sure some people will make a big deal out of that but in reality it's a minor issue, and they are still a part of the Commonwealth. Obviously Harry gets on well with President Trudeau, but when he's out a new president may not be as supportive of the arrangement. I think the sticking point will be their titles, I don't think they went into this intending to give them up - hence the trademark of "sussex royal" but based on the Queen's statement that could be what she wants. Canada doesn't have a President. Justin Trudeau is the Prime Minister - big difference. Canadian tax payers do have the right to object to paying for their security, why should they? No difference to the sticking point in this country if they choose to be independent while they are here. We don't pay for the security of Zara or Peter Phillips or the Princesses of York or any other of the non working Royals. You seem to be expecting Canada, and us for that matter, to contribute to the kind of lifestyle that you so strongly object to them having as it is at the moment.
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Post by camomoftwins on Jan 17, 2020 19:59:01 GMT
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Post by mich5481 on Jan 17, 2020 21:00:49 GMT
Their tweet said ‘We have to respect their wishes’ 😯 Didn’t waste any time did they! But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely? You can't have them half in and half out of the display...
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Post by gar on Jan 17, 2020 22:37:00 GMT
But if they are going to be part-time, why would one remove them completely? You can't have them half in and half out of the display... They're in a slightly different area.
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Post by gar on Jan 18, 2020 9:12:15 GMT
It's reported that they're almost there...dotting the i's and crossing the t's. I wonder if there will be an update over the weekend or whether it'll wait til Monday.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 18, 2020 9:35:03 GMT
It's reported that they're almost there...dotting the i's and crossing the t's. I wonder if there will be an update over the weekend or whether it'll wait til Monday. Interesting! That hasn't hit our media yet. I think they'll wait until they have all the details and then make one official statement...?
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Post by gar on Jan 18, 2020 9:39:51 GMT
I would expect so. I heard that on last nights 10pm news.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 9:48:13 GMT
A message from the Queen was just released: A statement from Her Majesty the Queen Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.Is the money that Prince Charles controls from the Duchy of Cornwall (I think that's the correct name) considered public funds? The Duchy of Cornwall is a well-managed private estate, which was established by Edward III in 1337. The revenues from the estate are passed to HRH The Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall, who chooses to use them to fund his public, charitable and private activities and those of his family. The Duchy consists of around 53,000 hectares of land in 23 counties, mostly in the South West of England. The principal activity of the Duchy is the sustainable, commercial management of its land and properties. The Duchy also has a financial investment portfolio.
There's more on the Q & A on how the Duchy of cornwall is run
In addition to that income H & M do get other income from the public purse ( Sovereign Grant) towards paying their staff as well as the Metropolitan Police who pay their security detail from the Royal Protection budget.
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Post by joelise on Jan 18, 2020 18:39:00 GMT
It’s just been announced that Prince Harry and Meghan will lose their HRH titles and will receive no money.
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Post by wellway on Jan 18, 2020 18:45:46 GMT
It’s just been announced that Prince Harry and Meghan will lose their HRH titles and will receive no money. And they intend to repay the cost,£2.4m, of doing up Frogmore Cottage. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51163865
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 18, 2020 19:06:19 GMT
I wonder what means for the Sussex Royal brand they trademarked a couple of weeks ago...
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Post by pierkiss on Jan 18, 2020 19:17:39 GMT
It’s just been announced that Prince Harry and Meghan will lose their HRH titles and will receive no money. Wow. I’m honestly shocked by this.
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