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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 6:28:07 GMT
Brother’s house is probably not going to sell any time soon, so I have decided that the family can use it as a vacation spot/ place to stay when visiting dad.
Give me your best house rules. Brother’s are sensitive snowflakes so the “contract” needs to worded gently. I guess clean up after your cat was to harsh. I am not kidding, brother that travels with cat was highly offended by that.
Rules need to emphasize that the house is on the market and must be kept at show ready... and replace any food that is used in the freezer. And replace water bottles/ ice cubes.
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Post by candleangie on Jan 30, 2020 6:59:39 GMT
Rather than house rules, how about an arriving checklist (flip the breaker to turn the water heater back on, plug in the power bar for the ent. center, etc) and one for leaving (all dishes into the dishwasher and run it before you leave, strip the beds/wash dry/ remake, garbages out, sweep/vacuum if it needs it.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jan 30, 2020 7:44:30 GMT
Better yet, how about charging a cleaning fee - it would be way cheaper than a hotel fee. Then find a reliable cleaning service to do it for you. I suspect that having family follow rules is just not going to work. Because, well, they are family. AND they will not see it as a business transaction until money is involved. Perhaps, you can make it in the form of a deposit for cleanliness - and those who leave it clean can stay free the next time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 10:48:21 GMT
Brother’s house is probably not going to sell any time soon, so I have decided that the family can use it as a vacation spot/ place to stay when visiting dad. Give me your best house rules. Brother’s are sensitive snowflakes so the “contract” needs to worded gently. I guess clean up after your cat was to harsh. I am not kidding, brother that travels with cat was highly offended by that. Rules need to emphasize that the house is on the market and must be kept at show ready... and replace any food that is used in the freezer. And replace water bottles/ ice cubes. I'd start cutting the asking price to get it sold instead of opening it up to being a family vacation stop. Get the price right and it WILL sell. If your siblings are sensitive snow flake types there are not wordings that will be adequatly gentle and yet solid enough. You are going to be doing a LOT of cleaning up after the cat. Not to mention, you will be in the middle of all squabbles about who gets to be there and when, who cleaned up and who didn't, and they may fight you on selling it once they discover it can be kept and used without any expense on their part. That is all a nope to me. I'd give it away before dealing with family.
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Post by jenjie on Jan 30, 2020 13:39:07 GMT
Brother’s house is probably not going to sell any time soon, so I have decided that the family can use it as a vacation spot/ place to stay when visiting dad. Give me your best house rules. Brother’s are sensitive snowflakes so the “contract” needs to worded gently. I guess clean up after your cat was to harsh. I am not kidding, brother that travels with cat was highly offended by that. Rules need to emphasize that the house is on the market and must be kept at show ready... and replace any food that is used in the freezer. And replace water bottles/ ice cubes. I'd start cutting the asking price to get it sold instead of opening it up to being a family vacation stop. Get the price right and it WILL sell. If your siblings are sensitive snow flake types there are not wordings that will be adequatly gentle and yet solid enough. You are going to be doing a LOT of cleaning up after the cat. Not to mention, you will be in the middle of all squabbles about who gets to be there and when, who cleaned up and who didn't, and they may fight you on selling it once they discover it can be kept and used without any expense on their part. That is all a nope to me. I'd give it away before dealing with family. Read this again.
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Post by freecharlie on Jan 30, 2020 13:49:18 GMT
Checklist and a cleaning fee-to be paid before arrival.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2020 13:57:31 GMT
I'd start cutting the asking price to get it sold instead of opening it up to being a family vacation stop. Get the price right and it WILL sell. If your siblings are sensitive snow flake types there are not wordings that will be adequatly gentle and yet solid enough. You are going to be doing a LOT of cleaning up after the cat. Not to mention, you will be in the middle of all squabbles about who gets to be there and when, who cleaned up and who didn't, and they may fight you on selling it once they discover it can be kept and used without any expense on their part. That is all a nope to me. I'd give it away before dealing with family. Read this again. And again and again and again. It will just save you from the frustration of having to deal with the inevitable fallout from anyone who feels they are above having “rules” no matter how well intentioned said rules are.
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Post by peaname on Jan 30, 2020 14:03:54 GMT
You could get the app ‘properly’ and load pictures of how you expect each room to look and the occupant can check off things as they’re done such as remove trash.
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Post by summer on Jan 30, 2020 14:08:13 GMT
I think you are setting yourself up for disappointment if you start letting family use the house. They won't keep it show ready and there will be fights and hurt feelings. I'd be motivated to try to sell the house in a timely fashion and keep it show ready by not letting anyone use it.
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Post by psiluvu on Jan 30, 2020 14:10:36 GMT
Don't do it!!! You complain here about how awful they are. Why on earth would you think they would be any different because there are "rules" in place.
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Post by muggins on Jan 30, 2020 14:12:36 GMT
Bad idea. It will cause so many headaches for you. Not worth your time.
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Post by MZF on Jan 30, 2020 14:18:48 GMT
Brother’s house is probably not going to sell any time soon, so I have decided that the family can use it as a vacation spot/ place to stay when visiting dad. Give me your best house rules. Brother’s are sensitive snowflakes so the “contract” needs to worded gently. I guess clean up after your cat was to harsh. I am not kidding, brother that travels with cat was highly offended by that. Rules need to emphasize that the house is on the market and must be kept at show ready... and replace any food that is used in the freezer. And replace water bottles/ ice cubes. I'd start cutting the asking price to get it sold instead of opening it up to being a family vacation stop. Get the price right and it WILL sell. If your siblings are sensitive snow flake types there are not wordings that will be adequatly gentle and yet solid enough. You are going to be doing a LOT of cleaning up after the cat. Not to mention, you will be in the middle of all squabbles about who gets to be there and when, who cleaned up and who didn't, and they may fight you on selling it once they discover it can be kept and used without any expense on their part. That is all a nope to me. I'd give it away before dealing with family. This seems like a better idea....^^
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Post by mom on Jan 30, 2020 14:26:38 GMT
There is not a chance in hell I would let it be used by family. No, they wont clean it. No they wont want to pay a cleaning fee. But they will steal whatever is there. And they will let others use it. And they will fight over who gets it when more than one family member wants to be there at the same time. And someone will damage it in some way (of course they will save they found 'xyz' that way) and not want to pay for damages.
This is s very bad idea.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 30, 2020 14:28:03 GMT
Better yet, how about charging a cleaning fee - it would be way cheaper than a hotel fee. Then find a reliable cleaning service to do it for you. I suspect that having family follow rules is just not going to work. Because, well, they are family. AND they will not see it as a business transaction until money is involved. Perhaps, you can make it in the form of a deposit for cleanliness - and those who leave it clean can stay free the next time. I love that idea.
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Post by mikklynn on Jan 30, 2020 14:29:48 GMT
Brother’s house is probably not going to sell any time soon, so I have decided that the family can use it as a vacation spot/ place to stay when visiting dad. Give me your best house rules. Brother’s are sensitive snowflakes so the “contract” needs to worded gently. I guess clean up after your cat was to harsh. I am not kidding, brother that travels with cat was highly offended by that. Rules need to emphasize that the house is on the market and must be kept at show ready... and replace any food that is used in the freezer. And replace water bottles/ ice cubes. I'd start cutting the asking price to get it sold instead of opening it up to being a family vacation stop. Get the price right and it WILL sell. If your siblings are sensitive snow flake types there are not wordings that will be adequatly gentle and yet solid enough. You are going to be doing a LOT of cleaning up after the cat. Not to mention, you will be in the middle of all squabbles about who gets to be there and when, who cleaned up and who didn't, and they may fight you on selling it once they discover it can be kept and used without any expense on their part. That is all a nope to me. I'd give it away before dealing with family. This is probably right. Also, what if they won't leave?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jan 30, 2020 14:32:45 GMT
@megmc DO WHAT VOLT SAYS !!! And yes, I am yelling!
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Post by gar on Jan 30, 2020 14:32:50 GMT
I’m thinking the best list and rules in the world won’t make this idea workable
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Post by christine58 on Jan 30, 2020 14:34:21 GMT
Drop the price and SELL it..they will rob you blind!!! Too bad you can't buy them out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 15:15:44 GMT
Thank you for the sell advice, but we aren’t dropping the price. We have a very specific reason why.
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Post by flanz on Jan 30, 2020 16:25:12 GMT
@megmc DO WHAT VOLT SAYS !!! And yes, I am yelling! I'm yelling the same thing! Ditch the family sharing idea asap and get that baby sold!
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Post by kibblesandbits on Jan 30, 2020 16:45:50 GMT
I wonder why you are under the impression that your "snowflake" relatives will bother to follow any guidelines you set out?
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Post by moodyblue on Jan 30, 2020 16:48:54 GMT
Thank you for the sell advice, but we aren’t dropping the price. We have a very specific reason why. Your choice on not dropping the price. BUT, that doesn’t mean the rest of your plan is a good one. The way you’ve spoken about this family does NOT make me think they will follow any rules you put in place. And keeping it in showable condition at all times? Not going to happen if they don’t follow the rules, and that certainly doesn’t help with the problem of getting it sold soon. I see nothing but more headaches. If you’re not going to even consider dropping the price, then maybe you need to think of different ways to market the property, so you can get it sold.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jan 30, 2020 17:04:24 GMT
What about using it for an Air BnB? Not for family...
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2020 17:08:14 GMT
Also, what are the retention costs for hanging onto it at the current price? Even if it’s just taxes, insurance and utilities it still has a monthly cost, and how long can you keep paying those expenses in the hopes that you’ll eventually get someone to buy it for what it’s listed for? Who is paying those expenses in the meantime? I would think it would be in the best interests of closing the estate if the house is sold sooner than later.
I can’t see how they will respect the housekeeping rules for a property they don’t personally own and aren’t paying anything personally out of pocket to maintain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 18:38:05 GMT
Also, what are the retention costs for hanging onto it at the current price? Even if it’s just taxes, insurance and utilities it still has a monthly cost, and how long can you keep paying those expenses in the hopes that you’ll eventually get someone to buy it for what it’s listed for? Who is paying those expenses in the meantime? I would think it would be in the best interests of closing the estate if the house is sold sooner than later. I can’t see how they will respect the housekeeping rules for a property they don’t personally own and aren’t paying anything personally out of pocket to maintain. The estate pays the expenses, and it isn’t much. We are okay with it
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jan 30, 2020 19:56:46 GMT
Also, what are the retention costs for hanging onto it at the current price? Even if it’s just taxes, insurance and utilities it still has a monthly cost, and how long can you keep paying those expenses in the hopes that you’ll eventually get someone to buy it for what it’s listed for? Who is paying those expenses in the meantime? I would think it would be in the best interests of closing the estate if the house is sold sooner than later. I can’t see how they will respect the housekeeping rules for a property they don’t personally own and aren’t paying anything personally out of pocket to maintain. The estate pays the expenses, and it isn’t much. We are okay with it But that’s only until the estate/probate is settled, right? Then who covers it? I can see that turning into a huge nightmare if there are multiple heirs who are all expected to kick in their share to pay the bills.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 22:24:14 GMT
The estate pays the expenses, and it isn’t much. We are okay with it But that’s only until the estate/probate is settled, right? Then who covers it? I can see that turning into a huge nightmare if there are multiple heirs who are all expected to kick in their share to pay the bills. The estate can’t close until the house sells. The brothers are greedy , they want to raise the price. They don’t want a price reduction. I spend more on chicken feed than taxes, utilities and insurance run on the place.
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Post by cmpeter on Jan 30, 2020 23:42:38 GMT
I’d just let the freezer food, ice and water get used up. Then whoever stays there has the responsibility of bringing their own if the want it. Seems like a major hassle to keep those stocked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 23:49:09 GMT
But that’s only until the estate/probate is settled, right? Then who covers it? I can see that turning into a huge nightmare if there are multiple heirs who are all expected to kick in their share to pay the bills. The estate can’t close until the house sells. The brothers are greedy , they want to raise the price. They don’t want a price reduction. I spend more on chicken feed than taxes, utilities and insurance run on the place. Until others start staying there and run up the utilities. They want the heat warmer than they keep their house since they aren't paying for it, or the AC. Water left running because they aren't paying, you are. And insurance is going to go up because it will no longer be vacant.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 1:08:16 GMT
The estate can’t close until the house sells. The brothers are greedy , they want to raise the price. They don’t want a price reduction. I spend more on chicken feed than taxes, utilities and insurance run on the place. Until others start staying there and run up the utilities. They want the heat warmer than they keep their house since they aren't paying for it, or the AC. Water left running because they aren't paying, you are. And insurance is going to go up because it will no longer be vacant. We use this house one week a month. Utilities are no problem. We actually want the brothers to come, so they can help with dad. We just need some basic guidelines for staying in the house.
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